Msauza:



We do not have overhyped blue water navy, we have blue water capable navy, the only one in sub-saharan Africa.

jln115:

Thanks for the screen-grab mate! you proved my point, nowhere in that article those it state it was a SAN ship

agaugust:


Nope, you are the joke :


(1) Those two videos you compare are WRONG !

The first is NOT American navy, it is a mere civilian coastguard cutter firing.

The second is an unidentified Russian water security vessel NOT said to be navy, so NOT navy until proved....and that Russian ships is a damn old vessel with obsolete guns. All those videos are old aged films from many decades of years back.

South African navy prides itself in modern sea vessels......so you over bloated your ego with the noise about "SANDF is modern with sophisticated radar guided powerful guns".

(2) A vessel 22m size about the same size as a Nigerian navy Shaldag gunboat is a BIG TARGET O !

Thanks for confirming that South African navy gunners CANNOT hit target on a Nigerian navy gunboat, so our navy will sink your ships then !

Your over hyped blue water navy CANNOT hit a brown water vessel

SAN is a joke


(3) Russian video of sea men playing ? American civilian coastguard? Who cares? This thread is for African military forces, and we don't give a fvck about western water guards here.

Lets talk about Africa, stay on topic.

Now you want to excuse a South African military failure by comparing American navy? Really ?

Remember that for the [ast two years in Nigeria's Boko Haram war, on this forum if we say America is failing to stop terrorism in Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen.....Israel is failing to wipe out Hamas in Gaza, Pakistan a nuclear power is failing to stop terrorism at home even today....You block your ears and refuse to listen or compare foreign nations, you focus all your ridicule and scream of incompetence on Nigeria, as if
America, Kenya, etc are not failing to stop terrorism.

Now your own incompetent South African navy is a big failure at home and CANNOT shoot a simple gun on target, then you want to use American examples to justify your own SAN incompetence in combat drills ? NO.....NO.....NO !!! This forum is for African military alone.

South African navy is now on the table for open yansh azz examination.....and we see all your navy's shiiit

You claimed to have sank a NATO naval fleet in war games with your SAN submarine without firing any weapons, sure if you fired your torpedoes, all will miss target and that NATO fleet will retaliate with ASW helos and sink your incompetent sailors and submarine .

SAN Mumus that cannot handle simple naval gun wants to handle naval torpedoes.....you will FAIL !

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jln115:

It could of been both German and SAN ships firing simultaneously
Or even just the Germans, the fact that there was a German technician towing the target suggest it could of been just the Germans.

And again I cant help if you don't know the difference between what actually stands in an article and the heading, not once in the article did it state it was a South African ship or that it was 76mm rounds being fired.

Msauza:



The truth as well is that SA mercenaries fought for Nigeria. You must pay them good.

rka1:


I have not read anything official from the Nigerian Government that Nigerian soldiers were killed in that incident. I am not boasting that anyone was killed, even the mechanic, because it was unfortunate and just the fog of war. I was merely stating that they are accurate, maybe to a fault

But I am sure the SANDF wouldn't understand that as it has never been in real combat, just simulations.

Do you know how many blue on blues the British and Americans had in Iraq and Afghanistan? And that was with vehicles clearly marked as coalition ones.

The one with the SA mechanic was unmarked and appeared unannounced.

jln115:

"SANDF wouldn't understand that as it has never been in real combat":
Battel of Govender's Ridge
Battle of Kibati/Triple Towers
Battle of Beni
Battle of Kitchanga
Battle of Nyiabiondo/Lukweti[
Battle of Bangui

Note, all these battles took place in the last 2 years.

Secondly im not dismissing that there weren't blue on blue casualties between American and UK soldiers, but you have to take into account that most blue on blue casualties were from aircraft bombing runs and not soldiers firing on each others.

rka1:


You can deny all you want. We know, and you know it was the South African Navy. They now know simulation is different from real life.

agaugust:


.....the only one in sub-saharan Africa that CANNOT shoot straight and hit target

South Africans = Failure magnets

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Henry120:


The battle of bangui, your were roundly and utter defeated, you begged for mercy and fled. French and FOMAC troops had to clean your mess.

"A source with the United Nations in Bangui said the South Africans had asked for assistance from French forces to help them leave the country."

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE92M0AU20130324?irpc=932

"Bangui - South African soldiers in the Central African Republic are seeking safe passage to the airport after taking heavy losses during fighting with Seleka rebels, Reuters reports."



"Amy Martin of the UN's humanitarian agency, OCHA, told the BBC World Service that the SA troops had retreated to their barracks and were seeking safe passage to the airport."


"Seleka spokesperson Eric Massi said the rebels had broken through a line of South African soldiers during their push into the city."

http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/SA-soldiers-in-CAR-retreat-to-barracks-want-out-20130324


You ran away.

EVarn:
@chief lezz,agaugust,una no go waka go vote?.lol.
even on election day,you guys are bombarding south african e-rats with facts and common sense.
thumbs up,oga mi.your patriotism is really motivating.

Henry120:


The battle of bangui, your were roundly and utter defeated, you begged for mercy and fled. French and FOMAC troops had to clean your mess.

"A source with the United Nations in Bangui said the South Africans had asked for assistance from French forces to help them leave the country."

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE92M0AU20130324?irpc=932

"Bangui - South African soldiers in the Central African Republic are seeking safe passage to the airport after taking heavy losses during fighting with Seleka rebels, Reuters reports."



"Amy Martin of the UN's humanitarian agency, OCHA, told the BBC World Service that the SA troops had retreated to their barracks and were seeking safe passage to the airport."


"Seleka spokesperson Eric Massi said the rebels had broken through a line of South African soldiers during their push into the city."

http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/SA-soldiers-in-CAR-retreat-to-barracks-want-out-20130324


You ran away.

Henry120:


The battle of bangui, your were roundly and utter defeated, you begged for mercy and fled. French and FOMAC troops had to clean your mess.

"A source with the United Nations in Bangui said the South Africans had asked for assistance from French forces to help them leave the country."

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE92M0AU20130324?irpc=932

"Bangui - South African soldiers in the Central African Republic are seeking safe passage to the airport after taking heavy losses during fighting with Seleka rebels, Reuters reports."



"Amy Martin of the UN's humanitarian agency, OCHA, told the BBC World Service that the SA troops had retreated to their barracks and were seeking safe passage to the airport."


"Seleka spokesperson Eric Massi said the rebels had broken through a line of South African soldiers during their push into the city."

http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/SA-soldiers-in-CAR-retreat-to-barracks-want-out-20130324


You ran away.

Henry120:


No, it was only 1 ship that fired. It also was the South-African navy who took the shots.

The Headline clearly states it was the SAN.

So, if it was the 76mm, what did the South-African Navy ship use to shot at Mr Day in pitch darkness?......... 5.56mm?


Word of warning though, never get in a fire fight with any of your neighbours, especially the Namibians. I've seen those buggers, and they don't seem like a bunch you wanna be messing , least of all mis-firing around with.

jln115:

Nope I don't know it was the South African Navy, its yet to be proved.
And yes simulation is different from real combat, but the fact that you brag about Nigeria being in a civil war and thus are more experienced is shocking, ill rather be at peace than at war, but hey that's just me.

And our soldiers see enough combat during peace keeping missions, not as much as Nigerian soldiers(because we are not at war), and what we lack in experience we make up for in training and the passing down of past experiences by our Vets.

jln115:

Again more opinions and no facts!

jln115:

Those sources are outdated and were posted before all the facts were known,
And 200pratroopers vs 3000 seleka
15 dead vs 500-1000 dead
seleka surrenderd

wouldn't call that a defeat.
And our withdraw was a political decision.

How deadly CAR battle unfolded:
www.iol.co.za/sundayindependent/how-deadly-car-battle-unfolded-1.1493841#.VRbe_s-JjIU
The hard lessons learnt in CAR:
http://www.iol.co.za/news/the-hard-lessons-learnt-in-car-1.1836450#.VRbf8s-JjIU
200 SA soldiers took on 3 000 rebels - SANDF
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/200-SA-soldiers-took-on-3-000-rebels-SANDF-20130325

lezz:
lol, I couldn't think of a better way of waiting for election results after casting my vote. Them southies are a good distraction.
I also wanted to let them know that elections are going on in boko Barak's headquarters.

MikeCZAR:
Defeated where?

Again I know you'll retreat to the tree tops if I confront you with facts.

Which line?

They only moved after the battle to the air port.

Henry120:


With 89 murders a day in South-Africa, you're significantly worse of than Nigeria.

Next time, pick a dictionary, first understand what a civil war is. Nigeria has almost concluded operations against terrorists in the N.E.

All take a country with a $524 billion economy with a growth rate of %5.5 over South-Africa strongly for a quarter growth.

Henry120:


Cool story bro.

Only difference is, Rueters were on the ground during the fighting, same as the U.N agency.

And they are all unanimous in their verdict

Bangui - South African soldiers in the Central African Republic are seeking safe passage to the airport after taking heavy losses during fighting with Seleka rebels, Reuters reports."

DieVluit:
Good luck on the vote count, Nigerians. Don't fark this one up. We don't wanna have to send the SANDF to save you.

EVarn:
lol.southie don hear am for una hand oo...
But the attacks in yobe and gombe by 'you know who' were indeed a big surprise,i thought that they are in total disarray?,how come they are still organized enough to stage such a disturbance?,the SSS should be more proactive in order to prevent unnecessary casualties,they shouldnt thrust all the herculean tasks on our armed forces alone,the NA and NAF arent magicians.
on a brighter note,i hope you voted for continuity of progress,transformation and positive change?.lol.

EVarn:
what is this xenophobic piece of red poop talking about?.send the SANDF to where?
you better cage that wild beast you call an opposition leader first before dreaming of "saving" us from an imaginary post election crisis.

NaijaPikinGidi:

That wasn't an organised attack. Opportunistic ... is more like it. The voting went on thereafter. Call it a weak kind of scare tactic from a vanquished group of losers.

We are mopping up while spooking out for the Girls and eventually the unshaven head of the 'Kau man!

E go happen in our time!

Henry120:


With 89 murders a day in South-Africa, you're significantly worse of than Nigeria.

Next time, pick a dictionary, first understand what a civil war is. Nigeria has almost concluded operations against terrorists in the N.E.

All take a country with a $524 billion economy with a growth rate of %5.5 over South-Africa strongly for a quarter growth.

jln115:

Nope I don't know it was the South African Navy, its yet to be proved.
And yes simulation is different from real combat, but the fact that you brag about Nigeria being in a civil war and thus are more experienced is shocking, ill rather be at peace than at war, but hey that's just me.

And our soldiers see enough combat during peace keeping missions, not as much as Nigerian soldiers(because we are not at war), and what we lack in experience we make up for in training and the passing down of past experiences by our Vets.

Henry120:


Cool story bro.

Only difference is, Rueters were on the ground during the fighting, same as the U.N agency.

And they are all unanimous in their verdict

Bangui - South African soldiers in the Central African Republic are seeking safe passage to the airport after taking heavy losses during fighting with Seleka rebels, Reuters reports."

Henry120:


Actually, it's common sense. You should try using it every once in a while