jln115:

"SANDF wouldn't understand that as it has never been in real combat":
Battel of Govender's Ridge
Battle of Kibati/Triple Towers
Battle of Beni
Battle of Kitchanga
Battle of Nyiabiondo/Lukweti[
Battle of Bangui

Note, all these battles took place in the last 2 years.

Secondly im not dismissing that there weren't blue on blue casualties between American and UK soldiers, but you have to take into account that most blue on blue casualties were from aircraft bombing runs and not soldiers firing on each others.

Most, but not all. These were clearly marked vehicles as well. I even recall during the 2nd Gulf war Royal Marines engaging each other and took a while before they realised.

It happens a lot.

DieVluit:


Is the "good luck" also xenophobic?

spare me your petty sentiments,arent you among the bandwagon of highly lugubrious individuals who continue prophesying violence in Nigeria?,allow the SANDF to help you effectively curb the war currently going on in kruger park before dreaming of drafting them abroad to save a hegemon.

rka1:


I don't brag about the civil war, although it did happen, but about real warfare in Liberia and SL. Not to talk about routing the Chadians and Maitasine.

Most people prefer peace, unfortunately, it is a violent world we live in.

Yes its a violent world we live, thats why the SANDF is deployed on peace keeping missions all over Africa, unfortunately they see combat on a much more regular basis than they should, the good thing is they do a great job and the differences can be seen in the DRC,Sudan,Mozambique,Mali ect ect

EVarn:
spare me your petty sentiments,arent you among the bandwagon of highly lugubrious individuals who continue prophesying violence in Nigeria?,allow the SANDF to help you effectively curb the war currently going on in kruger park before dreaming of drafting them abroad to save a hegemon.

I also would be mortally wounded if I were Nigerian. So shamed by your inability to build a functioning society. The product of Nigeria's society is clearly messed up, looking at your response here. And like I said, if you mess up these elections, like you mess up everything, South Africa will come and save you.

We are already worried that you couldn't complete a simple election in one day like a capable country. You had to go an extend it because of "delay".

Useless.

I understand why you are defensive when wished good luck.

rka1:


Most, but not all. These were clearly marked vehicles as well. I even recall during the 2nd Gulf war Royal Marines engaging each other and took a while before they realised.

It happens a lot.

clearly marked vehicles and in broad daylight, that's why I never rated USDF.
I mean how does a pilot bomb a clearly marked friendly.

rka1:


You can deny all you want. We know, and you know it was the South African Navy. They now know simulation is different from real life.

When a web based internet military like SANDF decides to leave it's online style and go offline into real live operations, this kind of disaster is the result. They seem not to know their area of military strength lies basically in photography and demo videos.

SANDF should just stick to what they are good at, and image maker @THIZA will be doing business as usual
.

Henry120:


- Evidence has already been provided, view my previous reply to mikeczar


http://m.ewn.co.za/2015/03/27/SANDF-warship-accidentally-shoots-at-a-fishing-boat


-This, and the fact that only the SA navy is stup1d enough to take shots at a poor fisherman's boat.

- also the fact, only the SA Navy is incompetent enough to miss shots deliberately fired at a fishing boat.

Where does it say SAN?

DieVluit:

I also would be mortally wounded if I were Nigerian.So shamed by your inability to build a functioning society. The product of Nigeria's society is clearly messed up,looking at your response here.And like I said,if you mess up these elections,like you mess up everything,South Africa will come and save you.
We are already worried that you couldn't complete a simple election in one day like a capable country.You had to go an extend it because of "delay".
Useless.
I understand why you are defensive when wished good luck.

lol,"mortally wounded"?,c'mon!,you can do better than that..
We have built the biggest black economy in the world,the next decade will witness the rise of a 5th world power.
Naturally,our enemies will attempt to strike us down before we grow too powerful to contain,but it wont work.
I really pity you,you accuse us of being unable to build a stable society,is south africa stable?
your political and social batosphere is in a staggering state quagmire.

Henry120:


He was deliberately targeted by your inept sailors, and your inept sailors proved their incompetence is no fluke.

Anthony Day and his crew owe their lives to the incompetence of S.A navy sailors.

As you can see, your incompetence saved the day.

Accept your ineptitude, do not seek to draw in the Americans. Stop grasping at straws.

Where does it say SAN deliberately targeted him?

Henry120:


Your Navy is incompetent, this is a well established fact.

However on this day, their ineptitude saved the life of Anthony Day and his crew. All big African Navies conduct live firing exercise, I haven't read or seen a single Navy deliberately firing at a Fisherman, worse of missing. Only the South-African Navy does this.

This is a fact, come to terms with it.

Our navy is inept?

Ask the NATO task force whom it sunk as to whom is inept

Again,

1. Who said SAN did the firing
2. Who said SAN targeted him

2 simple questions - please answer them

jln115:


And our soldiers see enough combat during peace keeping missions

Where did South Africa ever deploy 5,000 soldiers with artillery, tanks, and jet fighters in a peace keeping mission ? Iraq or Afghanistan ?

.

Henry120:


SA Navy could not hit an Aircraft carried if it sailed right in front of them.

Utter Useless Navy!!

What information alows you to draw these conlcusions?

Do you wish to discuss the Nigerian maritime record?

Henry120:


It was the SA navy, you guys are the only ones stup1d and incompetent enough to fire at a fishing boat and still miss.

If it were the Germans, Mr Day, would be referred to in past terms.

And yet Germans were present preparing their pre-launch drills for their live fire exercise

Again, I ask, whom said it was SAN?

Henry120:


Temper, termper...........

The incompetence of the SA Navy saved a man's life and that of his crew. You should be happy.

Who said it was SAN?

agaugust:


Nope, you are the joke :


(1) Those two videos you compare are WRONG !

The first is NOT American navy, it is a mere civilian coastguard cutter firing.

The second is an unidentified Russian water security vessel NOT said to be navy, so NOT navy until proved....and that Russian ships is a damn old vessel with obsolete guns. All those videos are old aged films from many decades of years back.

South African navy prides itself in modern sea vessels......so you over bloated your ego with the noise about "SANDF is modern with sophisticated radar guided powerful guns".

(2) A vessel 22m size about the same size as a Nigerian navy Shaldag gunboat is a BIG TARGET O !

Thanks for confirming that South African navy gunners CANNOT hit target on a Nigerian navy gunboat, so our navy will sink your ships then !

Your over hyped blue water navy CANNOT hit a brown water vessel

SAN is a joke


(3) Russian video of sea men playing ? American civilian coastguard? Who cares? This thread is for African military forces, and we don't give a fvck about western water guards here.

Lets talk about Africa, stay on topic.

Now you want to excuse a South African military failure by comparing American navy? Really ?

Remember that for the [ast two years in Nigeria's Boko Haram war, on this forum if we say America is failing to stop terrorism in Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen.....Israel is failing to wipe out Hamas in Gaza, Pakistan a nuclear power is failing to stop terrorism at home even today....You block your ears and refuse to listen or compare foreign nations, you focus all your ridicule and scream of incompetence on Nigeria, as if
America, Kenya, etc are not failing to stop terrorism.

Now your own incompetent South African navy is a big failure at home and CANNOT shoot a simple gun on target, then you want to use American examples to justify your own SAN incompetence in combat drills ? NO.....NO.....NO !!! This forum is for African military alone.

South African navy is now on the table for open yansh azz examination.....and we see all your navy's shiiit

You claimed to have sank a NATO naval fleet in war games with your SAN submarine without firing any weapons, sure if you fired your torpedoes, all will miss target and that NATO fleet will retaliate with ASW helos and sink your incompetent sailors and submarine .

South African Navy Mumus that cannot handle simple naval gun wants to handle naval torpedoes.....you will FAIL !

.

A very long post

Simple facts are:

1. Who said it was SAN
2. Video posted of Russians struggling to hit targets (Russian Navy)
3. Video posted of USCG struggling to hit targets
4. Video posted of RN struggling to hit targets

We deal in facts here, an the undeniable facts are that "incompetnat SAN" [Citation needed] sunk a NATO task force

agaugust:


.....the only one in sub-saharan Africa that CANNOT shoot straight and hit target

South Africans = Failure magnets

.

Read the artical

Who said SAN in the artical?

Headline < Content

Poorly educated Nigerian peasants

agaugust:


[size=13pt]
Unfortunately it does, the headline boldy reads :

SANDF warship accidentally shoots at fishing boat

http://ewn.co.za/2015/03/27/SANDF-warship-accidentally-shoots-at-a-fishing-boat

See the bold red arrow and red box in the photo screenshot pointing at your m.oronic navy's head

NO ESCAPE O ! ....SANDF + SAAF + SAN = 3 FAILURE MAGNETS
.[/size]

[size=15pt]And the artical says:

1. No one knows who fired the shots
2. No one knows if shots were fired
3. Germans were present

Nigerians deal with guesswork and feelings, South Africans deal with fact. [/size]

EVarn:
lol,"mortally wounded"?,c'mon!,you can do better than that..
We have built the biggest black economy in the world,the next decade will witness the rise of a 5th world power.
Naturally,our enemies will attempt to strike us down before we grow too powerful to contain,but it wont work.
I really pity you,you accuse us of being unable to build a stable society,is south africa stable?
your political and social batosphere is in a staggering state quagmire.

But you can't do better than "mortally wounded". That's what you are. Shamed and cut up.

I mean, your country can't even run an election. How pathetic can a nation get.

You haven't "built" the biggest economy. You just had babies. Lots of them - and the babies need to eat. You are mere consumers.

15 bodies and counting already. Don't worry, if it gets worse, we will be right there to save you.

The election itself is thanks to us. Everyone know it ---. http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/03/27/nigeria-boko-haram-south-africa-jonathan/

Nigeria’s Election: Brought To You By These Hired Guns
Heading into a pivotal vote, the government of Nigeria is pulling out all the stops in its war on Boko Haram. That means turning to mercenaries.

Henry120:


It states it right there in the Headline. Your inept sailors fired shots from their 76mm at a freaking fishing boat and missed..... LOL!

Was the fishing boat stealth?

So, why don't yoU tell us who took the shots, are you saying the Germans did?

You dont know who took the shots

Are you saying the SAN did?

Again,

Headline < fact

Henry120:


No, it was only 1 ship that fired. It also was the South-African navy who took the shots.

The Headline clearly states it was the SAN.

So, if it was the 76mm, what did the South-African Navy ship use to shot at Mr Day in pitch darkness?......... 5.56mm?


Word of warning though, never get in a fire fight with any of your neighbours, especially the Namibians. I've seen those buggers, and they don't seem like a bunch you wanna be messing , least of all mis-firing around with.

1. Who said it was SAN
2. Who said it was 76mm
3. No one else short of North Africa has missile armed warships - we dont need our guns to destroy your navy

Henry120:


The battle of bangui, your were roundly and utter defeated, you begged for mercy and fled. French and FOMAC troops had to clean your mess.

"A source with the United Nations in Bangui said the South Africans had asked for assistance from French forces to help them leave the country."

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE92M0AU20130324?irpc=932

"Bangui - South African soldiers in the Central African Republic are seeking safe passage to the airport after taking heavy losses during fighting with Seleka rebels, Reuters reports."



"Amy Martin of the UN's humanitarian agency, OCHA, told the BBC World Service that the SA troops had retreated to their barracks and were seeking safe passage to the airport."


"Seleka spokesperson Eric Massi said the rebels had broken through a line of South African soldiers during their push into the city."

http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/SA-soldiers-in-CAR-retreat-to-barracks-want-out-20130324


You ran away.

Just like you ran away from town after town inside your own country and allowed allmost 10 000 civilians to die and 1,5 million be displaced

Henry120:


With 89 murders a day in South-Africa, you're significantly worse of than Nigeria.

Next time, pick a dictionary, first understand what a civil war is. Nigeria has almost concluded operations against terrorists in the N.E.

All take a country with a $524 billion economy with a growth rate of %5.5 over South-Africa strongly for a quarter growth.

89 murders is untrue - as has been proven many many times (stop wasting our time with old arguments)

Nigeria has now had 2 civil wars

What is your GDP PPP? O yeah - sorry about that

Henry120:


Cool story bro.

Only difference is, Rueters were on the ground during the fighting, same as the U.N agency.

And they are all unanimous in their verdict

Bangui - South African soldiers in the Central African Republic are seeking safe passage to the airport after taking heavy losses during fighting with Seleka rebels, Reuters reports."

13 dead is heavy losses?

Henry120:


After suffering heavy casualties, so they can run away.


Pig, you can't shoot, you can't fight, but snorting......... that's something you can very well do.

13 dead is heavy losses?

What then do you call almost 10 000 dead and 1,5 million displaced?

agaugust:


When a web based internet military like SANDF decides to leave it's online style and go offline into real live operations, this kind of disaster is the result. They seem not to know their area of military strength lies basically in photography and demo videos.

SANDF should just stick to what they are good as, and image maker @THIZA will be doing business as usual
.

Cool opinion, bro

#NoOneGivesAFuck

agaugust:


Where did South Africa ever deploy 5,000 soldiers with artillery, tanks, and jet fighters in a peace keeping mission ? Iraq or Afghanistan ?

.

Where has Nigeria ever fought a modern war?

patches689:


Where has Nigeria ever fought a modern war?

We just finished one with guided missile armed drones, and long range radar/thermal imaging aircraft...and we won ! Shame on you

Nigeria is the first African country to use these types of modern equipment in war, even mighty Egypt has never tried it yet !
.

DieVluit:
But you can't do better than "mortally wounded". That's what you are. Shamed and cut up.
I mean,your country can't even run an election.How pathetic can a nation get.
You haven't "built" the biggest economy. You just had babies. Lots of them-and the babies need to eat.You are mere consumers.
15 bodies and counting already. Don't worry,if it gets worse,we will be right there to save you.
The election itself is thanks to us. Everyone know it---. http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/03/27/nigeria-boko-haram-south-africa-jonathan/
Nigerias Election: Brought To You By These Hired Guns
Heading into a pivotal vote, the government of Nigeria is pulling out all the stops in its war on Boko Haram.That means turning to mercenaries.

I'm disappointed at your misguided views,then again,i shouldnt have expected much from you.
we are successfully conducting our elections,on the other hand,your country is falling into apocalyptic imbrovio;bad economy and racial intolerance.

agaugust:


We just finished one with guided missile armed drones, and long range radar/thermal imaging aircraft...and we won ! Shame on you

Nigeria is the first African country to use these types of modern equipment in war, even mighty Egypt has never tried it yet !
.

MODERN WARFARE OF NIGERIA WAS FOUGHT FOR ON THEIR BEHALF BY THE MIGHTY SA MERCENARIES.

Ooohh My god, what a chaotic election s in nigeria. These guys are literally killing each other.

agaugust:


Where did South Africa ever deploy 5,000 soldiers with artillery, tanks, and jet fighters in a peace keeping mission ? Iraq or Afghanistan ?

.

Not even during the border war did we deploy more than 3000 soldiers, and we deployed Gripen jets,and Rooivalk attack helicopters during peace keeping missions.

14:
Ooohh My god, what a chaotic election s in nigeria. These guys are literally killing each other.

Really? You really must be watching the ongoing killings across South Africa! Pray you don't join the scary numbers!

#AHEADNIGERIA