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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:25pm On Mar 28, 2015
Ibime:



Ikedia didn't have pace? That was his greatest attribute. It was decision making he lacked.

His greatest attribute was his dribbling, not pace. Someone compared him with Tijani Babaginda. How ridiculous! Babaginda was a runner- straight runner. Ikedia was a dribbler- taking his time to cancel his markers one after the other as he moves on. His final balls were a problem.

Ikedia, Etim Esin and Okocha are great dribblers Nigeria have produced. None had the pace of Messi.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:27pm On Mar 28, 2015
coogar:


elampawa has a slight amnesia.....
look at him saying messi cannot dribble. messi that can kill a marker from a standing position. i remember him destroying scholes in the 2-legged tie in 07/08 near the corner side from a standing position.

[img]http://cdn1.lockerdome.com/uploads/5620316564109586_422fe4d934ada9caeb8d1790554f05cdeddf7df64e5bcb41003d3f28f4c0c2d9_large[/img]

You will get better gif of Okocha and Ikedia if it were possible.

Imagine, Scholes was the one marking him. Not even a defender.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:29pm On Mar 28, 2015
afrodoc2:

The fact that Elampiro stated that Ikedia lacked pace suggests that he never actually saw Ikedia play. Ikedia's 2 greatest "assets" were PACE and STUPIDITY........well documented.

I want to believe you saw Ikedia play only once in your life. I am yet to see a winger who could dribble like Ikedia. Not with speed.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 11:33pm On Mar 28, 2015
Chai elampiro my Padi Don fall my hand?
Messi can't dribble?
and ikedia don't have pace?


there's no player in United that dribble the way Messi does, he is miles ahead...

Pius ikedia and tijani plays same style run like a headless chicken with no football intelligence.


elampiro no let people for other thread come here come laff you
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:34pm On Mar 28, 2015
What Ikedia is shown doing here with so much ease in training is what he could do with even better flair in matches when he came on board.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdPtDtLu24c
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:36pm On Mar 28, 2015
Shut up! Stop being brainwashed. Show me where I said Messi can't dribble or Ikedia didnt have some pace. I said Messi had pace more than Ikedia, Okocha and Etim. Today, Messi is one of the fastest footballers in the world. Even Tijani Babangida with all his supposed speed was never considered to be among top footballers with speed not to talk of Ikedia with a normal speed. Ikedia's asset was his dribbling.

Odunharry:
Chai elampiro my Padi Don fall my hand?
Messi can't dribble?
and ikedia don't have pace?
there's no player in United that dribble the way Messi does, he is miles ahead...
Pius ikedia and tijani plays same style run like a headless chicken with no football intelligence.
elampiro no let people for other thread come here come laff you
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ibime(m): 11:41pm On Mar 28, 2015
I'm sure thís Elampiro dude is a teenager, spouting big opinions on what he never watched.

ITK no go kill pesin p
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:49pm On Mar 28, 2015
Ibime:
I'm sure thís Elampiro dude is a teenager, spouting big opinions on what he never watched.

ITK no go kill pesin p

You are the ITK. You never saw Ikedia play. Ikedia didn't have the pace of Messi. Even Tijani Babangida couldn't have had the pace of Messi.

Messi is one of the fastest footballers ever.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:56pm On Mar 28, 2015
Tijani was a straight runner. Yes.

But Ikedia was someone 'minusing' his markers one after another along the line on a slow run. He was dribbling zigzagling, stop move. stop and move........ That YOUTUBE clip is a good example of Ikedia's kind of game. His problem was that he was not playing with his mates. Oppositions regroup before he could hit the final pass and he was always not looking up. His eyes were too fixed on the ball.

When IK Uche first came on board, he had a bit of that dribbling flair, but he was never used well to be able to beat more than two defenders at once.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:58pm On Mar 28, 2015
elampiro:


You will get better gif of Okocha and Ikedia if it were possible.

Imagine, Scholes was the one marking him. Not even a defender.

it seems you started watching footie only few years ago. let chelsea fans tell you what messi did to del horno in 2006 at the bridge. cheesy

when it comes to close control, there's no one better than messi & iniesta. they would dribble & still keep the ball while standing on a tin of milk.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 12:03am On Mar 29, 2015
Ibime:
I'm sure thís Elampiro dude is a teenager, spouting big opinions on what he never watched.

ITK no go kill pesin p
I dey tell you.....
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 12:04am On Mar 29, 2015
elampiro:


Shut up! Stop being brainwashed. Show me where I said Messi can't dribble or Ikedia didnt have some pace. I said Messi had pace more than Ikedia, Okocha and Etim. Today, Messi is one of the fastest footballers in the world. Even Tijani Babangida with all his supposed speed was never considered to be among top footballers with speed not to talk of Ikedia with a normal speed. Ikedia's asset was his dribbling.

elampiro na you dey brainwash mi abi....... you can change mouth sha
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:08am On Mar 29, 2015
coogar:


it seems you started watching footie only few years ago. let chelsea fans tell you what messi did to del horno in 2006 at the bridge. cheesy

when it comes to close control, there's no one better than messi & iniesta. they would dribble & still keep the ball while standing on a tin of milk.

Don't let me go into when I started watching football. I saw Maradona did his Mexico '86 magic live. I am sure I saw 60% of Mexico '86 matches because of my uncle and my elder brother who were football enthusiasts and they felt they should carry me along the line as I was showing good skills on the field. I was in primary school though. I saw live the great match between Platini and Rummenige.

Ikedia too had a good close control. Same with Okocha, Etim, and even Kanu. But our people easily fall along the line. They are not self motivated, once they get little money they think they should enjoy life. Also, we don't have the kind of scouts like in South America who see football as a massive business and the raw talent as a great investment that should be guided and groomed generously.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:08am On Mar 29, 2015
Ibime:
I'm sure thís Elampiro dude is a teenager, spouting big opinions on what he never watched.

ITK no go kill pesin p

ibime, you remember the potato pitch saga? when mourinho made barca play on pure soil @the bridge just to disturb the flow of barca's passing game? those were the days when CL was CL, abeg.

see as messi disgraced del horno & then made a mince-meat of uncle robben - robben never go bald then. grin it was this night i said to my mates that messi was going to rule the world. he was a thorn in the flesh of chelsea all through.

[img]http://109./temporarylink/H8_vMIEZ_IwXznmGMz5sbw/1427583901/33218/332175690/Messi%20red%20dribble%20Chelsea.gif[/img]
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 12:08am On Mar 29, 2015
Mehnn... Na today I confirm say Elampiro no sabi anything about soccer.

I rest my case!!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 12:13am On Mar 29, 2015
elampiro:


Without pace, Messi and Hazard wold just be like Pius Ikedia.

Ikedia is a better dribbler than Messi but he didnt have the pace. Okocha and Etin suffered similar fate. They could dribble but they havent the speed to advance directly like Messi. I had one guy in my team called Wale grin. He could dribble a team of 30 players but he had the speed os a snail.
baba elampiro... easy na, no kill people with lie

you be my guy na..... me no argue una Bale matter
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:14am On Mar 29, 2015
elampiro:

Don't let me go into when I started watching football. I saw Maradona did his Mexico '86 magic live. I am sure I saw 60% of Mexico '86 matches because of my uncle and my elder brother who were football enthusiasts and they felt they should carry me along the line as I was showing good skills on the field. I was in primary school though. I saw live the great match between Platini and Rummenige.

i doubt this......


Ikedia too had a good close control. Same with Okocha, Etim, and even Kanu. But our people easily fall along the line. They are not self motivated, once they get little money they think they should enjoy life. Also, we don't have the kind of scouts like in South America who see football as a massive business and the raw talent as a great investment that should be guided and groomed generously.

ikedia had no close control.
only few nigerian players had it. elahor, amuneke & ikpeba(in his teenage years) all had mad close control. odegbami was another specialist in keeping the ball in tight corners and dribbling with it.

okocha is largely hit & miss and many of his dribbling was in the centre of the pitch where there's space. the reason wingers are respected is because of their brilliance in keeping the ball close to the touchline(limited space)
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 12:14am On Mar 29, 2015
Dadehmola:
Mehnn... Na today I confirm say Elampiro no sabi anything about soccer.

I rest my case!!
lol... he denied saying such
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:14am On Mar 29, 2015
Odunharry:

I dey tell you.....

Forget that guy. I am sure he did not even watch Nigeria 99 matches, and the friendly matches before the tournament.

I won't even mention Mexico 86, Canada 87, Maroc 88, Saudi 89, ALgiers 90, Japan 93, etc. I watched all these tournaments and much more. Even the qualifiers. WAFU cup etc. He wont know such players like 10-10 Bright Omokaro, Humphrey Edobor, Yisa Sofoluwe, Henry Nwosu.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 12:14am On Mar 29, 2015
Dadehmola:
Mehnn... Na today I confirm say Elampiro no sabi anything about soccer.

I rest my case!!

Oh, so you no know since?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ibime(m): 12:16am On Mar 29, 2015
Dadehmola:
Mehnn... Na today I confirm say Elampiro no sabi anything about soccer.
I rest my case!!

The guy na big mouth wey no know when to keep quiet.


elampiro:


You are the ITK. You never saw Ikedia play. Ikedia didn't have the pace of Messi. Even Tijani Babangida couldn't have had the pace of Messi.

Messi is one of the fastest footballers ever.

.......................



He was one time a regular starter in the super eagles set up. the dimunitive winger was a constatnt threat to opposing defenders largely due to his pint size, dribbling skills and [size=18pt]pace[/size]. our findings can authoritatively reveal that the former Ajax of Amsterdam and AZ Alkmaar star is currently at Magusa Turk Gucu fc. the club is in Famagusta, in the Turkich republic of Northern Cyprus. Where is Famagusta? The city is a tourist destination located on the coast of Cyprus.Lovely city also. http://soccer2theworld..com/2013/07/where-is-pius-ikedia.html

You better stop digging hole for yourself ITK. Even your own links dey tell you he was a pacy player.

Unlike you who spouts ignorance of what I've never seen, I not only followed Dutch football weekly but I was at Loftus Road in 2002 for Nigeria vs Paraguay match where Ikedia came on as a substitute.

Ikedia has no pace? Mukina should ban you from Sports section for a week.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:19am On Mar 29, 2015
Odunharry:

baba elampiro... easy na, no kill people with lie

you be my guy na..... me no argue una Bale matter

Which one be lie?

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Ikedia seeks World Cup place

Wednesday, 10 April, 2002, 13:14 GMT 14:14 UK

Ikedia seeks a place in Nigeria's World Cup team

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Since his appearance as a substitute in the last World Cup qualifier against Ghana last July, Pius Ikedia has been afflicted by the injury bug.

It cost him a regular first team place at Ajax Amsterdam and the chance to display his skills for Nigeria at the African Nations Cup
.

"I am very happy to be back in the national team after a long absence", said Ikedia, who came on as a late substitute in the March match against Paraguay.

"I might have had just five or six minutes but it was nice to play a role.

"I have a lot to contribute to the national team. I am still young and I have a long way to go".

Impressive past

Along with Julius Aghahowa, Ikedia played for Nigeria's Under-20 team at the 1999 World Youth Championships.

Ikedia's performance on the right wing, outwitting defenders with his repertoire of dribbling skills, earned him a move to the Amsterdam Arena.

"Ajax is a big club and I have had a good time so far," he told BBC Sport Online.

"But there have been some bad moments, when due to my injury, I missed a lot of games."

Ikedia is confident the bad times are over, and is ready to fight for a place in the Super Eagles World Cup squad.

"I have to work hard, keep fit and do well for my club as well as the national team," he said.

"If I can do that, I have a good chance of being in the World Cup team."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport3/worldcup2002/hi/team_pages/nigeria/newsid_1907000/1907605.stm

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It was even injuries that affected him sef.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:20am On Mar 29, 2015
Odunharry:

baba elampiro... easy na, no kill people with lie

you be my guy na..... me no argue una Bale matter

elampiro no sabi football.....
he's comparing kick & follow footballers to master dribblers like messi. i have never seen messi tip the ball further than 30cm from his foot when moving with the ball unlike 99% of the professional players out there.

messi is always in control - the only way to get the ball from him is to foul him, you cannot intercept when messi is in control. he often shows the ball to his marker a little bit to make him think the ball can get be gotten but na lie -
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:20am On Mar 29, 2015
Ibime:


The guy na big mouth wey no know when to keep quiet.




You better stop digging hole for yourself ITK. Even your own links dey tell you he was a pacy player.

Unlike you who spouts ignorance of what I've never seen, I not only followed Dutch football weekly but I was at Loftus Road in 2002 for Nigeria vs Paraguay match where Ikedia came on as a substitute.

Ikedia has no pace? Mukina should ban you from Sports section for a week.

They mentioned dribbling before pace. Again, his pace was nothing near Messi's pace.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:21am On Mar 29, 2015
coogar:


elampiro no sabi football.....
he's comparing kick & follow footballers to master dribblers like messi. i have never seen messi tip the ball further than 30cm from his foot when moving with the ball unlike 99% of the professional players out there.

messi is always in control - the only way to get the ball from him is to foul him, you cannot intercept when messi is in control. he often shows the ball to his marker a little bit to make him think the ball can get be gotten but na lie -

Messi gets dispossess a lot.

I know what you are saying, but he doesn't always dribble like that. He mostly run with the ball that way. Sometimes he runs with it across the 18 box and firing in from afar. Aguero has something close to that.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 12:25am On Mar 29, 2015
Ibime:


The guy na big mouth wey no know when to keep quiet.




You better stop digging hole for yourself ITK. Even your own links dey tell you he was a pacy player.

Unlike you who spouts ignorance of what I've never seen, I not only followed Dutch football weekly but I was at Loftus Road in 2002 for Nigeria vs Paraguay match where Ikedia came on as a substitute.

Ikedia has no pace? Mukina should ban you from Sports section for a week.
lol
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:29am On Mar 29, 2015
elampiro:
Ikedia's performance on the right wing, outwitting defenders with his repertoire of dribbling skills, earned him a move to the Amsterdam Arena..

See above. No be me write am. 'OUTWITTING DEFENDERS WITH REPERTOIRE OF DRIBBLING SKILLS'

Dademohla, just tell me you didnt watch this guy play. He was one always having the ball in his feet as he dribbled slowing along, minusing defenders. I am shocked he is been compared to Tijani. Unbelievable! Two players will stand with Ikedia, see me see you he will dribble past them with flair and tricks even though they knew that was what he was going to do. I rest my case.

Dadehmola:
Mehnn... Na today I confirm say Elampiro no sabi anything about soccer.
I rest my case!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ibime(m): 12:32am On Mar 29, 2015
elampiro:


They mentioned dribbling before pace. Again, his pace was nothing near Messi's pace.

His pace is more than Messis pace sef. If you check any football manager or PES game from back then, he can be no less than 95 for pace.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:34am On Mar 29, 2015
elampiro:


Messi gets dispossess a lot.

I know what you are saying, but he doesn't always dribble like that. He mostly run with the ball that way. Sometimes he runs with it across the 18 box and firing in from far. Aguero has something close to that.

more like messi gets fouled a lot & referee decides to let it be. he's the master of close control but i wouldn't argue if anyone gives it to iniesta - messi can kill a marker from a standing position or with pace. bale cannot do anything if he's not running with the ball.

with pace.....

[img]http://108./temporarylink/C9Vjig8txYjlEjJ7lzvudw/1427586053/28912/289116967/Messi%20Dribble%20-%20Bilbao.gif[/img]

without pace....

[img]http://pocongerz.yn.lt/Messi.1.gif[/img]
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:44am On Mar 29, 2015
It's painful there are no clips of Ikedia dribbles out there.

Ikedia would stand with you. He dances left and right and the defender is confused then slides to stop Ikedia, Ikedia hops with the ball past him and then the next defender. Ikedia moves the ball to the left, the defender waves, Ikedia swerve his body to right, then left, the defender is completely deceived to the left. Off, Ikedia is gone with the ball to the right and it's bye bye to the defenders. At short notice and in a few second he has gone past two in a small space area. No pace or gidigidi whatsoever in dribbling past his markers. No too much drama. He was born to dribble with the slightest of ease and natural skills. It's unfortunate injury and luck were against him.

He was nothing like Tijani Babangida. Them no near. Only IK Uche showed some signs of Ikedia's kind of dribblings.


Many here are kids. Ibeme and Odun Harry.


Good night people.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:46am On Mar 29, 2015
Ibime:

His pace is more than Messis pace sef. If you check any football manager or PES game from back then, he can be no less than 95 for pace.

Not true.

Tijani was faster and was never known to be among the fastest. But Messi is in top 5 or so.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:51am On Mar 29, 2015
coogar:


more like messi gets fouled a lot & referee decides to let it be. he's the master of close control but i wouldn't argue if anyone gives it to iniesta - messi can kill a marker from a standing position or with pace. bale cannot do anything if he's not running with the ball.

with pace.....

[img]http://108./temporarylink/C9Vjig8txYjlEjJ7lzvudw/1427586053/28912/289116967/Messi%20Dribble%20-%20Bilbao.gif[/img]

without pace....

[img]http://pocongerz.yn.lt/Messi.1.gif[/img]



At the bolded. Ikedia did that with ease too. He moves his body left and right without touching the ball, the defender cancels himself. Ikedia stands with the ball on the touch line (throwing line), a defender is in front of him in the touch line. Ikedia moves his body and the defender moves infield and Ikedia is going past him on the same touch line. It was like magic. How he did it was a mystery.

See you Nani marking of Messi. Nani is a poor marker. This was why SAF said after 2011 UCL final that when United face Barca again, he would put Jones in the defensive midfield or even defence to charge Messi directly.

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