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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:08am On Apr 01, 2015 |
agaugust: Day explained that while he was waiting for his crew before launching, a charter boat operator arrived, towing a 14 foot radio-controlled speed boat. The black-painted boat[b] featured a radar reflector[/b] and a German technician commenced pre-launch activities. - Defenceweb Tiny fiberglass boats dont make good radar reflectors If you had read what I was posting you wouldent dare bring up Radar 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jpphilips(m): 12:15am On Apr 01, 2015 |
lezz: when you reply jpphilips and fail to provide evidence for your contraption, you are just like a Jonathan heading to Otuoke, need I say more? 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jpphilips(m): 12:17am On Apr 01, 2015 |
stillchris: when you reply jpphilips and fail to provide evidence to support your claims, you are just like a Jonathan heading to Otuoke. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jpphilips(m): 12:23am On Apr 01, 2015 |
author=lezz post=32203864] Your attempt at replying my post reeks of desperation. Let me quickly add that this scope of international politics is beyond your league. You aren't sound enough so it takes you up to a week to try to level with me by employing half-baked facts backed by little international awarness. As someone who knows a lot, I guess this is a promise that you wish to solemnly give us facts and nothing but facts so help you God!! During the ivory coast presidential issues, ecowas had already asked gbabo to step down and blacklisted his government from ecowas. Military intervention was being discussed on the table. ECOWAS actually begged UN security council to sanction Ivory coast, I have that on good authority, any reasonable country will see it as a sign of weakness on a regional power broker, what I don't know is the fallacy in bold, can you prove to this honorable house that ECOWAS blacklisted Ivory coast in 2011? Let me remind you that you claim to know too much as such, to get the evidence won't be a problem, please do not tactically maneuver out of this for any reason whatsoever, it is either you are proving or you are shutting up completely. I will neither read nor respond to any other gibberish that doesn't have the proof i asked for. Nigeria wasn't sleeping over the Libyan crisis. I weep for your pathetic sense. You rush to play Mr. Know it all, to teach us what you yourself have not finished understanding. Even a Pharisee has got a better tact than you. Nigeria said they are not interested in a United states of Africa likewise Most successful economies in Africa at the time, SA, Morocco, Egypt Kenya etc, Nigeria never posed a threat to his plan in any visible way, why did Ghadaffi not propose the break up of Egypt, SA, Kenya, morocco and other uninterested African nations? The USA equally made same prediction, is Ghaddafi the president of the US? instead of fixing culpability where it belongs, you are deluding yourself, have you bothered to find out why two nations with superior intelligence gathering capabilities gave Nigeria a tough verdict? Nigeria wasn't the only country that rejected Ghaddafi's plan there were other countries, so why was Nigeria the only bulls eye? based on the above facts, Ghadafi's unfortunate prediction had nothing to do with his failed plan, only a beer parlor political analyst will make such naive connection. To be fair if you believe that Ghaddafi proposed the break up of Nigeria because we refused United states of Africa, table your proof here, you saw how I proved mine, prove yours that same way, keep it concise and brief, any strenuous analogies and unverifiable claims will NOT be read. I never said Nigeria was meditating in the Libyan crisis. I emphasized that Nigeria officially recognised the tnc, while south Africa was barking ay NATO. Stick to facts not cheap blackmail. Naa, it was an oversight not a blackmail, you are no where near people I may be tempted to blackmail. Nigeria had been a power broker in Africa since her independence. Intact it was only in GEJ regime we started looking inwards. That you exported your professionals because the institutions in your country has collapsed, does it mean you are a power broker? Majority of our doctors who left for Saudi Arabia in the 80's went to make money because they were earning less in Nigeria nothing more, can you in clear conscience assume that Nigeria is a lord over Saudi Arabia because our doctors took refuge there?? I expect an answer here too. South Africa isn't the brainchild of AU. It was was ghadafi. YOU ARE AN EMBARRASSMENT. Who was the first chairperson of the AU? one single answer of a name and probably date, any other strenuous crap will not be read. Bakassi was settled legally by the international court. Nigeria led by example and didn't use her might to swallow Cameroon. You said Chad is liberating Nigerian towns. Well Chad liberated 3 Nigerian town in their own border while Nigerian liberated 43 town in 2 weeks in an erea the size of Belgium. Nigeria had no intention of handing over Bakassi even after the ICJ verdict, here is my proof; According to obasanjo's book titled "Presidential legacy" published in 2013 and reviewed by Donald duke whose land was taken had this to say; “The French President made it clear to us that it has put on alert its military and showed us the entire position of our military and exactly where we were and our daily movements." Now, you see how i put forward facts to disprove your diplomatic concoction on why we obeyed the ICJ order, we obeyed because a superior fire power who finds it morally right to honor the defence pact she has with cameroon thereby putting a gun to our head. After this clear act of cowardice and chicken heart, who does Nigeria have a defence pact with at the time? is that how you want to be a "regional power broker"? Power broker that ordinary Cameroon can muscle away anytime? self delusion is not a crime though, enjoy your buffoonery. Any time you are not ready to articulate facts the way i am doing it, I will not read it, the proof above is evident that you don't follow the news, after work, you sit with iya basare to take ogogoro and discuss kitchen politics, now tell me, who is an Embarassment? Also you said Nigeria isn't a threat to Libya, you need to stay away from google and get real education. Libya can't challenge any African country in the north which comprised fellow Arabic countries, so she looked into west Africa and Chad her immediate neighbour came into play, so she attacked and tried to annex Chad. Now Chad is in the lake Chad basin coperstion with Nigeria as well as an ECOWAS country which Nigeria oversees. So how could we not be a threat? From what you explained though you are too lazy or bereft of any fact to support your claim, I can only deduce that Nigeria was a softer target, a walk in the park rightly put, I don't know the date of the Chadian invasion by Libya, never mind that you are too drunk not to present that, however, if I had the information, I would ascertain their military capabilities by credible ranking, that way, we will know who is really a threat to the other, in the absence of that, both of us are merely speculating and I don't engage in such unintelligent theatrics. Let me educate you right now, France is uncomfortable with Nigeria's hegemony in west Africa and is on all cylinders to bring division between the aglofone and francofone countries. But you wouldn't know. Please dont give us half baked education gotten from Oshogbo roofless classrooms, when you say France is uncomfortable with Nigeria's hegemony in Africa, you should be able to prove that with verifiable events. I continue to warn you, this place is not your village meeting where anybody can make any blank statement and feel cool You said Egypt, Algeria and morocco are white/arabic. NO!!! They are Arabic. While they partake in african affairs passively is because of their interest being situated in Africa. Morocco didn't even have the grace of pretence, she's not member of the AU. What are they? Green/Jewish? Morocco used to be a member and the rest remained members so what exactly is your point here? It's not about the skin colour it's way more than that. If you will pause and watch CNN ,you will see that Egypt and co are part of the middle east. The same way Turkey isn't European not just by skin colour but by political, cultural, ideological and world view disposition , then by people and origin. It is so with north Africa, hence the term,sub Saharan Africa. If you know how much I hate this kai-kai statements you make here, I wish I can extend an e slap to that your gorilla face. I presented to you events in my penultimate post where i itemized clearly why AU is an unserious organisation not suitable for serious countries like Egypt housing the best military in Africa, I went a step further to juxtapose their Arab league campaigns and more complex successes they have achieved, and you have this nonsense!! to reply me? Where are the facts that support all these speculations, show me in the news, tell me events, for gods sake i am not your dumb wife neither am I your fat girlfriend, talk to me with facts not conjectures, I hate it You said we are not suppose to get Ebola, blah blah blah. That no screening whatsoever at the airports. Should I remind you late sawyer was a diplomat who came into Nigeria officially? How did Ebola got into mighty USA or even Spain? Now that you have managed to speak of an event/events, I am obliged to respond, what is the likelihood of Nigeria (in west Africa by the way) to get Ebola compared to the USA? who should have a tougher contingency plan? Nigeria or the USA? It is only a goat brain like you will liken a scenario where a symptomatic, diarrhea Ebola patient, walks through your biggest international airport unchecked from an Ebola epicenter a few miles from home, with a controlled medevac of a volunteer health worker. That comparism can only occur in a failed grey matter like yours, if you really think like this, please DO NOT PROCREATE, we dont need a generation of pure r@trads, we are ok! having you alone. Edited** Did you notice that you provided no evidence to support everything you wrote, how do you expect me to take you seriously? It took me a year to reply a dullard, you should be grateful you managed to get my attention. 1 Like 3 Shares |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:11am On Apr 01, 2015 |
patches689: Nobody said the fishing boat is fibreglass, it can be steel, aluminium, etc. Did you enter the man's boat? Liar ! It's not a stealth boat. Simple. Your navy gunners cannot go to war with poor marksmanship, your ship will be sunk easily . patches689: Nope, they will still miss target. A stupiid navy remains stupiid no matter the target. What if it's a 12 m Nigerian navy stealth combat catamaran? Half the size of a shaldag and stealth, so Nigeria's so called brown water navy can penetrate Valour frigate radar defences without being seen....they we fire on your blind eyed warship patches689: Bwahahahaha That 8 meters boat is as big as a T-72 main battle tank. So, a snorkelling T-72 tank will sink your Valour Frigate because your Soweto gunners are not good enough to hit target the size of a whole tank Eish Wena....read below . 2 Likes
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:26am On Apr 01, 2015 |
agaugust: Who said it was a valour class? Of the 4 vessels present 3 were german Again, the type of boats used for fishing off our coast are fiber glass with poor radar sugnautes. Fiber glass has a poor radar signiture Proven by the fact that the gunnery target had radar reflectors This id.iot doesnt know that tanks are submerged when snorkeling How will it penetrate unseen? we saw the other boat - why would we not see yours? Also, first 3 rounds landed within an area of 15 meters of target - the next rounds would have been dead on target when the operators adjusted fire Reminder: Whoever fired those shots can hit a Shaldag sized target with 100% accuracy 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MduZA: 5:48am On Apr 01, 2015 |
EVarn: like how you always wish boko harams were in SA...oga the ANC has its failures but is doing a great job |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 7:37am On Apr 01, 2015 |
MduZA:Is it?,that doesnt seem to be the opinion of many south africans. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:59am On Apr 01, 2015 |
who is JPPhilips? He should have a seat. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 8:02am On Apr 01, 2015 |
jpphilips:what evidence did you provide to support your own points? Moreover,is there anything like evidence in international politics?,isnt it all written in history? Nobody needs your attention here,if you feel too big to reply,then dont.heck,who even wants your reply?,you are a vagabond to humanity,a terrible blight to our nation. You have listened to too much propaganda,you would have been a very brilliant follower of history that i would have loved to constantly chat with{i can discuss international politics and history from morning till night if time permits me},if only your werent so biased,misinformed and unpatriotic. what a waste. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jpphilips(m): 8:18am On Apr 01, 2015 |
EVarn: Is this your way of saying thank you for educating your dumb soul? After decieving yourself that Nigeria was the Jesus of Ebola. Now that you've seen my own evidence, can we see yours?? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MduZA: 8:19am On Apr 01, 2015 |
EVarn: we had elections last year,south africans expressed their opinions |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 8:28am On Apr 01, 2015 |
jpphilips:you have no evidence,all you have are twisted narratives. Do you even know who ghadaffi was? Do you know ghadaffi's relationship with jacob zuma? Do you know what Nigeria really stands for? Do you know the western foreign policy concerning Nigeria? Do you know how crude oil positions us in the international comity of states? If you dont,then why assume that you know everything? 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 8:33am On Apr 01, 2015 |
MduZA:largely because the ANC had no strong opposition. The PDP never expected to cede power for the next 10 years,but as we have it,APC proved to be an unconquerable behemoth.I'm certain that your next elections will be most revealing. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MduZA: 9:56am On Apr 01, 2015 |
[quote author=EVarn post=32231289]largely because the ANC had no strong opposition. The PDP never expected to cede power for the next 10 years,but as we have it,APC proved to be an unconquerable behemoth.I'm certain that your next elections will be most revealing quote] therefore if the ANC has no strong opposition,there is nothing to learn from Nigeria scenario...#caseclosed |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by skytrack1: 10:21am On Apr 01, 2015 |
Guys look the problem with the nigerian army is the leaders ok not that we dont have trained soldiers, if jst could get senior officers ready for the shit to hit the fans, the NA will be invinsible and feared around the world. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jpphilips(m): 10:31am On Apr 01, 2015 |
EVarn: Prove that Nigeria is the highest donor to the Ebola scourge, if you don't have it, you are too inept to respond here, I choose people I debate with not trolls, no more replies till I see your proof, you think I am one of those onion heads you flex spinal cord with, sure you are brainless, making blank statements without proof, where do you think you are? You have my proof let us see yours or shvt the fvck up let people with proof debate. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 10:33am On Apr 01, 2015 |
EVarn: Not really ANC may lose a couple of major cities (DA could take Johannesburg and Port Elizabeth) and some power in parliament But the next president will be ANC and my money is on Cyrl Rhamaposa (a man i can tolerate) |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 11:27am On Apr 01, 2015 |
patches689:That is what you think. Before 2011,PDP had over 300 seats in parliament,but now they have less than 160 due to the APC coalition. What will happen if the EFF,Inkatha Freedom Party,and National Freedom Party merges together to form a reinvigorated opposition against the ANC led government?,that will make them as powerful as the DA,and perhaps if the DA can restructure its political ideology to suit the marxist EFF led coalition,there could be a 4 party coalition involving the: Democratic Alliance Economic Freedom Fighter Inkatha Freedom Party and National Freedom Party This new coalition party would be influential enough to rapidly gain parliament seats and topple ANC in a swift swipe. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 11:34am On Apr 01, 2015 |
jpphilips:I would have enjoyed bantering with you,but sadly,you are biased and unpatriotic,so it would only be a waste to engage you in an intelligent arguement. I wont dignify you with an answer,no one takes you seriously here. PS: If you crave an arguementative challenge,create your own thread,you can then invite me there if you want.If i have the time and patience,i will engage you,if i dont,then i'm sure that there are a number of intelligent scholars on nairaland to challenge your falsehood. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 12:18pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
[size=20]VIVA!!! AP/NC VIVA!!! VIVA!!! BUHAZUMA VIVA!!! I AM HAPPPPPPPPPPY!!!!! SA ALWAYS SUPPORTED APC, NOT THE PDP THAT ALWAYS HAD FRICTIONS WITH THE ANC NOW ALL THAT EGO HAS BEEN ERASED FROM THEIR UGLY FACES OF BADMOUTHING THE ANC WITH USELESS THREATS[/size] 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 12:26pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
EVarn: THE ANC OF MANDELA WILL STILL WIPE ALL OF THEM TOGETHER. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 12:43pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
Msauza:I sincerely doubt that. Already,many south africans are disgruntled over the ANC government's management of the economy and electricity situation.The only thing keeping ANC in power is the free handouts it distributes to the citizens. If there is a coalition,ANC will fall. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 12:49pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
EVarn: Take the stats of the elections of last year and combine all the votes of all the parties you mentioned and see that ANC still outnumber them with large margin. The EFF is currently losing support, all their supporters are returning back to the ANC. IFP support base is dead outside KZN province, but I have to admit that the rightist DA support is growing. However, the DA will never stoop too low to collide with the leftist EFF, that will never happen. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 1:11pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
Msauza:ah..so naive,is there anything like 'stooping too low' in politics? isnt politics a game of power and intellect? The DA has more or less similar political ideology with the ANC,therefore political support in the right wing will always rotate between the ANC and DA,but the EFF,IFP,NFP,FF+ are of different breed.especially the EFF which is marxist-leninist,this enables it to garner new support from all channels. IFP shrank due to the emergence of the EFF,but it still carries political influence.EFF-DA coalition is a deadly combo. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 1:18pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
skytrack1:No. Recruit to General. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 1:21pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
skytrack1:could you please elaborate your point?. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 1:22pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 1:23pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
MikeCZAR:sometimes i suspect that you are a madman. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:23pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
patches689: Post proof that Mr.Day's own boat is made of fibre glass not aluminium, you MUST PROVE IT NOW ! Valour frigate radar detected the boat and your gunners saw it, that is why they fired in it's direction 3 times, 3 shots at the same target, no excuse about radar not seeing clearly, the exact geographical coordinates of that boat was displayed on your gunners radar screen clean and clear. Valour frigate radar detected the boat and directed your STUPIID navy buffoons to fire at it......then failure magnets failed as usual. Snorkeling tanks are NOT 100% submerged under water, or else the water enters through the main gun and flood the tank. Yes a snorkeling tank is a threat as it can fire on your ship and sink the Valour frigate, your gunners cannot shoot straight at an object the size of a T-72 tank, you need a huge aircraft carrier or giant oil tanker ship to shoot at with a little more hope of hitting target after firing 10 rounds due to the gross incompetence of Soweto's toothless blue water navy . SAN gunners can hit a Shaldag boat just because you say so? NO ! PROVE IT with real life firing evidence not your leaking mouth South African navy is born to shoot and miss target. Live with that . 1 Like
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 1:23pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
EVarn: The DA is the rightist movement supporting the capitalist agenda and the EFF is a Marxists-Leninist movement that support radicalism and tell me where do the two meet? The EFF support socialist ideology of sharing while the DA are conservative movement who support the property ownership. DA are totally against nationalisation and land expropriation without compensation. The move will however cause a great upset that will lead to avalanche of much greater exodus of prominent leaders in the DA and who will in turn form yet another new DA. Such move is impossible on political ideological aspects. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 1:36pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
Msauza:Lol.of course you guys love APC,due to the money Atiku Abubakar bankrolls into zuma's pocket. |
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