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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 1:47pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
Msauza:There can be a significant change in ideology of the DA towards a more socialist view.If the DA realises that remaining firmly rooted in its capitalist ideology would never yield it the substantial support needed to annex the presidency,it would have to at least restructure its ideology to enable inter-party alliance or even an outright coalition. Such a move is possible. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:52pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
agaugust: Lets go one step further, Day said his boat was 28-foot ski boat. Thats 8 meters, he estimates the shots fell within 15 meters infront of him. This means that first salvo accuracy for the vessel which fired the shots is 23 meters. The size of a Shaldag is 24 meters. Proven by real life events! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:55pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
agaugust: No, with the breech closed it wont. [size=20pt]Guys - this is the guy who claims to be a military researcher!! He thinks MBT's float when they cross rivers! [/size] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PLH5Cjeh0c 5 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:58pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
agaugust: Its defined as a ski-boat. Thus it imply's fiber-glass. As I have shown, vessels of that size require radar reflectors to be accurately engaged. While radar itself does not imply 100% accuracy with the first rounds. The only thing that will fail is the anus of your Shaldag's commander when his ship is blown to shreds by 100% accuracy of the attacker. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:03pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
agaugust: Nope, all whoever fired those shots needs is something as small as this (pic) and they will hit it with 100% accuracy on the first salvo
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jpphilips(m): 3:08pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
EVarn: I assume you have no proof, now bury your clay face in utter intellectual shame!! how dare you say things that are not true on this forum, where do you think you are? your Oshogbo cave? 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 3:14pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
EVarn: That will not happen, DA and EFF are water and oil, meaning that they do not mix. DA stand for right to ownership of property and EFF condones the forceful expropriation of private property for the benefit of all. Should the DA ever side with the EFF it means that they will be failing millions of their constituencies who will have to prepare to lose property to the benefit of all. Those constituencies are merely voting for DA to safeguard their property as the DA is their only voice in parliament that still defend their properties. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jpphilips(m): 3:21pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
patches689: The way Nigerians talk make me laugh, Cameroon has an active defence pact with France, likewise Chad, a war with Cameroon is a war with France, while Cameroon may seem small, I hope you will sing this song when the French intervene. Nigeria needs to start forming productive alliance and not showing lizard muscle to her minions of disgruntled citizens who lack the capacity to reason beyond using salt water to cure Ebola. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:26pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
patches689: Nope, the only thing you proved is that for every target South African navy Valour frigates shoot at, your sailors shots will always land 15 meters off target. So if SAN shoots at a 24 metre shaldag boat, your incompetent gunners will miss target by their normal 15 metres inaccuracy . SANDF always shoots 15 metres off target. CASE CLOSED . 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 3:26pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
EVarn:who cares what you suspect mate? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 3:33pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
patches689:They don't destroy those remotely controlled training target boats. Shoot will hit near them. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:35pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
patches689: [size=16pt]Quote where I said tanks float when they cross a river, quote it....Mumu Domingo How will a man of my age and education say that 40 tonnes of solid steel will float on water? I am not a möron like you now ![]() ![]() Tanks don't close barrel when fording water in a threat zone, else they become sitting ducks and defenseless. Yes a snorkeling T-72 tank cannot be hit by South African navy, it's 125mm main gun will sink your navy frigate that cannot retaliate on target .[/size] 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jpphilips(m): 3:40pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
@Lezz Your attempt at replying my post reeks of desperation. Let me quickly add that this scope of international politics is beyond your league. You aren't sound enough so it takes you up to a week to try to level with me by employing half-baked facts backed by little international awarness. As someone who knows a lot, I guess this is a promise that you wish to solemnly give us facts and nothing but facts so help you God!! During the ivory coast presidential issues, ecowas had already asked gbabo to step down and blacklisted his government from ecowas. Military intervention was being discussed on the table. ECOWAS actually begged UN security council to sanction Ivory coast, I have that on good authority, any reasonable country will see it as a sign of weakness on a regional power broker, what I don't know is the fallacy in bold, can you prove to this honorable house that ECOWAS blacklisted Ivory coast in 2011? Let me remind you that you claim to know too much as such, to get the evidence won't be a problem, please do not tactically maneuver out of this for any reason whatsoever, it is either you are proving or you are shutting up completely. I will neither read nor respond to any other gibberish that doesn't have the proof i asked for. Nigeria wasn't sleeping over the Libyan crisis. I weep for your pathetic sense. You rush to play Mr. Know it all, to teach us what you yourself have not finished understanding. Even a Pharisee has got a better tact than you. Nigeria said they are not interested in a United states of Africa likewise Most successful economies in Africa at the time, SA, Morocco, Egypt Kenya etc, Nigeria never posed a threat to his plan in any visible way, why did Ghadaffi not propose the break up of Egypt, SA, Kenya, morocco and other uninterested African nations? The USA equally made same prediction, is Ghaddafi the president of the US? instead of fixing culpability where it belongs, you are deluding yourself, have you bothered to find out why two nations with superior intelligence gathering capabilities gave Nigeria a tough verdict? Nigeria wasn't the only country that rejected Ghaddafi's plan there were other countries, so why was Nigeria the only bulls eye? based on the above facts, Ghadafi's unfortunate prediction had nothing to do with his failed plan, only a beer parlor political analyst will make such naive connection. To be fair if you believe that Ghaddafi proposed the break up of Nigeria because we refused United states of Africa, table your proof here, you saw how I proved mine, prove yours that same way, keep it concise and brief, any strenuous analogies and unverifiable claims will NOT be read. I never said Nigeria was meditating in the Libyan crisis. I emphasized that Nigeria officially recognised the tnc, while south Africa was barking ay NATO. Stick to facts not cheap blackmail. Naa, it was an oversight not a blackmail, you are no where near people I may be tempted to blackmail. Nigeria had been a power broker in Africa since her independence. Intact it was only in GEJ regime we started looking inwards. That you exported your professionals because the institutions in your country has collapsed, does it mean you are a power broker? Majority of our doctors who left for Saudi Arabia in the 80's went to make money because they were earning less in Nigeria nothing more, can you in clear conscience assume that Nigeria is a lord over Saudi Arabia because our doctors took refuge there?? I expect an answer here too. South Africa isn't the brainchild of AU. It was was ghadafi. YOU ARE AN EMBARRASSMENT. Who was the first chairperson of the AU? one single answer of a name and probably date, any other strenuous crap will not be read. Bakassi was settled legally by the international court. Nigeria led by example and didn't use her might to swallow Cameroon. You said Chad is liberating Nigerian towns. Well Chad liberated 3 Nigerian town in their own border while Nigerian liberated 43 town in 2 weeks in an erea the size of Belgium. Nigeria had no intention of handing over Bakassi even after the ICJ verdict, here is my proof; According to obasanjo's book titled "Presidential legacy" published in 2013 and reviewed by Donald duke whose land was taken had this to say; “The French President made it clear to us that it has put on alert its military and showed us the entire position of our military and exactly where we were and our daily movements." Now, you see how i put forward facts to disprove your diplomatic concoction on why we obeyed the ICJ order, we obeyed because a superior fire power who finds it morally right to honor the defence pact she has with cameroon by putting a gun to our head. After this clear act of cowardice and chicken heart, who does Nigeria have a defence pact with at the time? is that how you want to be a "regional power broker"? Power broker that ordinary Cameroon can muscle away anytime? self delusion is not a crime though, enjoy your buffoonery. Any time you are not ready to articulate facts the way i am doing it, I will not read it, the proof above is evident that you don't follow the news, after work, you sit with iya basare to take ogogoro and discuss kitchen politics, now tell me, who is an Embarassment? Also you said Nigeria isn't a threat to Libya, you need to stay away from google and get real education. Libya can't challenge any African country in the north which comprised fellow Arabic countries, so she looked into west Africa and Chad her immediate neighbour came into play, so she attacked and tried to annex Chad. Now Chad is in the lake Chad basin coperstion with Nigeria as well as an ECOWAS country which Nigeria oversees. So how could we not be a threat? From what you explained though you are too lazy or bereft of any fact to support your claim, I can only deduce that Nigeria was a softer target, a walk in the park rightly put, I don't know the date of the Chadian invasion by Libya, never mind that you are too drunk not to present that, however, if I had the information, I would ascertain their military capabilities by credible ranking, that way, we will know who is really a threat to the other, in the absence of that, both of us are merely speculating and I don't engage in such unintelligent theatrics. Let me educate you right now, France is uncomfortable with Nigeria's hegemony in west Africa and is on all cylinders to bring division between the aglofone and francofone countries. But you wouldn't know. Please dont give us half baked education gotten from Oshogbo roofless classrooms, when you say France is uncomfortable with Nigeria's hegemony in Africa, you should be able to prove that with verifiable events. I continue to warn you, this place is not your village meeting where anybody can make any blank statement and feel cool You said Egypt, Algeria and morocco are white/arabic. NO!!! They are Arabic. While they partake in african affairs passively is because of their interest being situated in Africa. Morocco didn't even have the grace of pretence, she's not member of the AU. What are they? Green/Jewish? Morocco used to be a member and the rest remained members so what exactly is your point here? It's not about the skin colour it's way more than that. If you will pause and watch CNN ,you will see that Egypt and co are part of the middle east. The same way Turkey isn't European not just by skin colour but by political, cultural, ideological and world view disposition , then by people and origin. It is so with north Africa, hence the term,sub Saharan Africa. If you know how much I hate this kai-kai statements you make here, I wish I can extend an e slap to that your gorilla face. I presented to you events in my penultimate post where i itemized clearly why AU is an unserious organisation not suitable for serious countries like Egypt housing the best military in Africa, I went a step further to juxtapose their Arab league campaigns and more complex successes they have achieved, and you have this nonsense!! to reply me? Where are the facts that support all these speculations, show me in the news, tell me events, for gods sake i am not your dumb wife neither am I your fat girlfriend, talk to me with facts not conjectures, I hate it You said we are not suppose to get Ebola, blah blah blah. That no screening whatsoever at the airports. Should I remind you late sawyer was a diplomat who came into Nigeria officially? How did Ebola got into mighty USA or even Spain? Now that you have managed to speak of an event/events, I am obliged to respond, what is the likelihood of Nigeria (in west Africa by the way) to get Ebola compared to the USA? who should have a tougher contingency plan? Nigeria or the USA? It is only a goat brain like you will liken a scenario where a symptomatic, diarrhea Ebola patient, walks through your biggest international airport unchecked from an Ebola epicenter a few miles from home, with a controlled medevac of a volunteer health worker. That comparism can only occur in a failed grey matter like yours, if you really think like this, please DO NOT PROCREATE, we dont need a generation of pure r@trads, we are ok! having you alone. Edited** Did you notice that you provided no evidence to support everything you wrote, how do you expect me to take you seriously? It took me a year to reply a dullard, you should be grateful you managed to get my attention. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:07pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
agaugust: Nope - when they fire at an 8 meter target the shells land within 15 meters Thats called a grouping. You say you have a gun, but you dont know what groupings are? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:18pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
agaugust: You said a T-72 will sink a valour class. How will it do that while submerged? You say it again in your own post!! Right now!! agaugust: THIS MAN THINKS TANKS CAN FLOAT!! And dude, you also dont seem to know the basics, the breech has to be closed to fire a shell, a breeches default position is closed. [size=20pt]This man who claims to be a military researcher still thinks MBT's can float and he doesnt know what a breech is!! [/size] 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 4:25pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
jpphilips:I stoped reading your last post after just two lines. Your level of comprehension is as sinister as your political shallowness and lame attempt at response. Your baseless opinion has made you a fugitive here. You are one quack of a chameleon who has no sense of purpose or direction. Little wonder you used the inclusive "we" in self-deceit; You are a lonely maladjusted sociopath in life and in the virtual world of electronic media. A swap rat who sees nothing good in his country worthy of constrictive criticism. Betrayal and a perverted penchant for tyranny is inherently imbedded in your physiological constitution. you should jump into your coffin. The world won't notice Your family won't blink Society won't miss you Humanity and Nigeria would be better off. You are a waste of humanity, scum of Nigeria and a cancer to our socio economic wellbeing. A textbook example of an ISO certified baboon who should be taken to a public square and be horse whipped to the minimum acceptable standard of social behaviour. A man who has failed in his attempt at logic And yet failed at trolling. You aren't worth the effort of my response. You are a public toilet And there's no crime in shiting in your gaping mouth filled with verbal rubbish. you are a prisoner of your mental instability. Your lack of love of your country is a window into the love you never had in your personal life. A national and family reject. I shall have you e-murdered and the soil of Nigeria shall reject your unpatriotic corpse. *****modified****** Did you notice I didn't refer to any point you raised? It is because you have said nothing. You don't even have the mental power to read through my post with comprehension. You are a living example of 5 minute google education mixed with interrupted formal education You are imcaple of logical debate. So we do to you what we normally do to intellectual usurpers and meddlers: verbal death. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Asuokaa: 4:28pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
lezz: BRO RELAX...HE GAVE HIS OPINION NOT ALL NIGERIANS ARE NIGERIANS 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:35pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
agaugust:Mate you still havent proved it was a SAN ship thus its irrelevant how large or from what the fishing boat was made of. Any way it was most likely a german ship, as said by the first person who reported on the incident. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 4:41pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
Asuokaa:His an alien who gets a high from his senseless hate for Nigeria. He has no contribution here. Only an anxious need to be noticed. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Asuokaa: 4:43pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
lezz: am proud of this country anytime anyday cause i can boost of what we can do... 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 4:47pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
jpphilips:lol.what 'osogbo cave'?,what isnt true??,what evidence are you bellowing for?,you expect me to show you a video of ghadaffi lining zuma's greedy pocket with libyan gold? If i begin answering you,i would only end up derailing the purpose of this thread. create a thread of your own if you thirst for a challenge. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 4:48pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
jpphilips:Ranting of a village boy desperately trying to prove his failed thesis with falsehood. You are a 0 here. Lonley attention seeker. Your bickerings and banter are derailing this thread. Where is your sense of shame? You have been exposed for your lack of facts here, not only by me, but by several others. Bit I know....... Shame won't make you leave. You must salvage something for the upliftememt of your bruised and battered soul. Lol 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 4:54pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
Asuokaa:thanks bro. That's what we need. Constructive criticism without ignoring areas that needs attention. Koffi Annan, the formal UN secretary general left Abuja in january. When he was leaving, he told the world that the future of Africa is in the hands of Nigeria. mentus jpphilips should have challenged him. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:58pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
patches689: [size=16pt] Bwahaha ![]() ![]() Breech? Gun loading hole inside the tank. We were talking about snorkeling tank and I said water won't enter the barrel outside (not breech inside) . You are yet to show how at my age, I would say a solid steel tank floats on water, you are the one who says radar didn't see that boat because it was night....i gave you basic science education that radar is a wave and day or night makes no difference because radar waves just need a solid object to bounce on. You are obsessed about my work as a military researcher, it gives you daily inferiority complex....that's why you sing it like a song.....keep singing....empty barrels make the most noise ![]() ![]() ![]() . [/size] 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 5:09pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
Msauza: Are you on some medication lately? ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MduZA: 5:14pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
lezz: the guy is so knowledgeable,he exposed your poor level of reasoning.. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:15pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
agaugust:"i gave you basic science education" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Funniest thing i have read all day. This is coming from a man who believes air is more dens at higher altitude. 4 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 5:18pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
NaijaPikinGidi: [size=20]VIVA!!! AP/NC VIVA!!! VIVA!!! BUHAZUMA VIVA!!! I AM HAPPPPPPPPPPY!!!!! SA ALWAYS SUPPORTED APC, NOT THE PDP THAT ALWAYS HAD FRICTIONS WITH THE ANC NOW ALL THAT EGO HAS BEEN ERASED FROM THEIR UGLY FACES OF BADMOUTHING THE ANC WITH USELESS THREATS WE ARE SIMPLY TIRED OF ALL THOSE THREATS WHICH WERE PASSED ON THE ANC GOVERNMENT BY PDP GOVERNMENT, FROM YELLOW FEVER SAGA, THE IBAGBO AGENDA, ILLEGAL PURCHASE OF WEAPONS, ETC. WE ARE JUST TIRED AND WE WELCOME MR BUHARI AS THE NEW PRESIDENT-COME 28 OF MAY.[/size] |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 5:18pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
MduZA:yeah, coming from a south african. He is your comic relief in a horror movie presented to you by Nigeria. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jpphilips(m): 5:21pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
lezz: Yawn!!!! are you speaking in tongues? which mental ministry released you? where are the proof? 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 5:28pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
Msauza:Nigeria is Nigeria whether PDP or APC. Our military leader General Abacha, fúcked up your African nations world cup when Mandela interfered in 1996 majority of the APC chieftains are still pdp at heart. Nigeria's foreign policy still remains the same and the APC will crush you if you don't behave and fall in line. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 5:31pm On Apr 01, 2015 |
Msauza:The DA will restructure its ideology if it really wants to stand a chance of dominating the central government. By contructing its ethics to admit limits and license concerning ownership of private land and property,such that properties owned by consistuencies must be limited and also used as an avenue to cater for the general public. This would appease EFF's socialist views,and allow a possible inter-party alliance.its mutual interest. |
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