Msauza:
Yep, because Mr Bihari supported the idea of sharia law.
As for figures Jonathan confirmed them out of his own mouth.

Buhari's idea of sharia is one of the things that boko haram is clamouring for.
lol.Sharia law can never be implemented in a multi-religious country like Nigeria,it just aint possible.

agaugust:



You still insist I said tanks float on water, you have NOT been able to quote where I said that. You know I am not the dullard here, it's you


Breech of a gun? It's English language and meaning available in dictionary for the whole world, even local hunters know a breech on their gun.


Fishing boat is NOT stealth, Valour frigate radar detected it, that is why your sailors fires 3 times on the same target, the radar gave them EXACT and PRECISION co-ordinate position of the vessel, yet your donkey brained blue water navy fired 76 mm gun 3 times and missed target 3 times.

Water does not enter barrel, see photo of snorkeling T-72 tank below, the barrel is above water, the tanks NEVER fully submerge, it is a tank NOT a submarine....see the tank commander in the photo even outside the turret watching out for enemy forces in the water, he will command the tank gunner to fire 125 mm powerful main gun on your Valour frigate and tank will sink your warship, your Soweto navy CANNOT retaliate and hit target.

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By simply saying "not 100% submerged in water" you are indirectly implying that the floating is taking place to some reasonable extent. If you are ignorant of some things do not try to correct your mistakes by jogging around.

EVarn:
Buhari's idea of sharia is one of the things that boko haram is clamouring for.
lol.Sharia law can never be implemented in a multi-religious country like Nigeria,it just aint possible.

Mr Bihari will exploit ways possible to implement it to areas which are predominantly Muslim in the North. It is not a secret that most Muslims will not let the dogs lying until they achieve the exact paradigm as set out by the holy Quoran.

Msauza:



By simply saying "not 100% submerged in water" you are indirectly implying that the floating is taking place to some reasonable extent. If you are ignorant of some things do not try to correct your mistakes by jogging around.

Floating means your feet or wheels do not touch the waterbed, river bed, or sea floor. Go back to school and learn English. Olodo Southie

I may no longer comment so much on Nigerian matters.

Has Nigeria become a two-party sate? 180 million Nigerians must either accept Buhari or Jonathan by force ? No other options?

A dangerous precedent has been set....If a southern christian becomes president of Nigeria, the north will create Boko Haram war to make him look bad and destroy his government, then replace him with a northerner that looks good. So when a northern muslim becomes president and the southern christians want to pay them back in their own coin and retaliate, what will happen ? Vicious cycle and recycle ?

http://dailypost.ng/2015/04/01/buharis-victory-asari-dokubo-threatens-return-to-the-creeks/

I will advice Buhari to start begging Niger Delta and apologize for saying if he does not win elections there will be bloodshed all over Nigeria....because yes, there was blood shed of over 6,000 innocent civilians in Boko Haram war 2013 to 2015.....after he lost in 2011.

http://www.punchng.com/news/buhari-under-fire-over-threat-of-bloodshed/

Any how dem like make dem rule naija, me I no kuku dey house, my journey far....nothing go do me
.

agaugust:


Floating means your feet or wheels do not touch the waterbed, river bed, or sea floor. Go back to school and learn English. Olodo Southie

Agaugust be specific, does it float or does it touch the river bed?

agaugust:
I may no longer comment so much on Nigerian matters.

Has Nigeria become a two-party sate? 180 million Nigerians must either accept Buhari or Jonathan by force ? No other options?

A dangerous precedent has been set....If a southern christian becomes president of Nigeria, the north will create Boko Haram war to make him look bad and destroy his government, then replace him with a northerner that looks good. So when a northern muslim becomes president and the southern christians want to pay them back in their own coin and retaliate, what will happen ? Vicious cycle and recycle ?

http://dailypost.ng/2015/04/01/buharis-victory-asari-dokubo-threatens-return-to-the-creeks/

I will advice Buhari to start begging Niger Delta and apologize for saying if he does not win elections there will be bloodshed all over Nigeria....because yes, there was blood shed of over 6,000 innocent civilians in Boko Haram war 2013 to 2015.....after he lost in 2011.

http://www.punchng.com/news/buhari-under-fire-over-threat-of-bloodshed/

Any how dem like make dem rule naija, me I no kuku dey house, my journey far....nothing go do me
.

I AGREE WITH YOU FULLY. THIS MIGHT BE THE BEGINNING OF THE RESSURECTION OF MEND.

agaugust:



You still insist I said tanks float on water, you have NOT been able to quote where I said that. You know I am not the dullard here, it's you


Breech of a gun? It's English language and meaning available in dictionary for the whole world, even local hunters know a breech on their gun.


Fishing boat is NOT stealth, Valour frigate radar detected it, that is why your sailors fires 3 times on the same target, the radar gave them EXACT and PRECISION co-ordinate position of the vessel, yet your donkey brained blue water navy fired 76 mm gun 3 times and missed target 3 times.

Water does not enter barrel, see photo of snorkeling T-72 tank below, the barrel is above water, the tanks NEVER fully submerge, it is a tank NOT a submarine....see the tank commander in the photo even outside the turret watching out for enemy forces in the water, he will command the tank gunner to fire 125 mm powerful main gun on your Valour frigate and tank will sink your warship, your Soweto navy CANNOT retaliate and hit target.

.

What is a Navy frigate doing in 5m of water? Which is the depth limit of the T-72 water crossing. Are you sure you're a military researcher?

Video 1: T-72 tank crossing water COMPLETELY submerged. Doing what YOU...."the military researcher" said it does NOT do. Crossing at 00:52.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E3eDA29iyk


Video 2. T-90 tank doing the same thing. Completely
submerged.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-QWQsDNsRs



Your pic is not a crossing at the max depth of 5m. You can even see the soil being kicked up behind it. That tank has its tracks on the surface of the trench. You fraud.

If Nigeria can once agin get it right in terms of good leadership and economic stability, no millitary force in the whole of Africa will be able to withstand the Nigerian millitary force. Even some of the heavyweights i.e france, Great Britain will not find it easy with the Nigerian millitary forces. You think the Nigeria millitary force is a joke? I bet you will be in for a suprise.

Msauza:

Mr Bihari will exploit ways possible to implement it to areas which are predominantly Muslim in the North. It is not a secret that most Muslims will not let the dogs lying until they achieve the exact paradigm as set out by the holy Quoran.

lol.No sane leader wants to have a revolt on his hands before even completing his first term in office.
No one cares what the muslim doctrine dictates,the shenanigans written in the "holy" quran should be restricted to mosques.
Even in the north,sharia can never be implemented due to the fact that there is no state in Nigeria that is totally muslim populated,there will always be at least 30% of christian population,and that is not even considering the traditional pantheon worshippers.
Even buhari knows that dabbling into the implementation of sharia will be a big disaster.
There is also politics to consider,if buhari even mentions anything like sharia,PDP will get new ammo to turn the people against him,and APC will fall.

Msauza:
I AGREE WITH YOU FULLY. THIS MIGHT BE THE BEGINNING OF THE RESSURECTION OF MEND.

lol.MEND will never 'ressurect',they can only issue threats and make noise.
You do not understand the dynamics of politics in Nigeria,there is hidden agenda everywhere,its always a game of power and intellect,that is what makes Nigeria's politics extremely competitive.
If MEND revolts,it will give Buhari the excuse to declare a state of emergency in the South-South,label MEND a terrorist group and then proceed to wipe out both old and young in the quest to "return peace and decorum to the area".
Moreover,MEND is still a beneficiary of government amnesty and numerous maritime contracts,so why would they revolt?.

agaugust:



You still insist I said tanks float on water, you have NOT been able to quote where I said that. You know I am not the dullard here, it's you


Breech of a gun? It's English language and meaning available in dictionary for the whole world, even local hunters know a breech on their gun.


Fishing boat is NOT stealth, Valour frigate radar detected it, that is why your sailors fires 3 times on the same target, the radar gave them EXACT and PRECISION co-ordinate position of the vessel, yet your donkey brained blue water navy fired 76 mm gun 3 times and missed target 3 times.

Water does not enter barrel, see photo of snorkeling T-72 tank below, the barrel is above water, the tanks NEVER fully submerge, it is a tank NOT a submarine....see the tank commander in the photo even outside the turret watching out for enemy forces in the water, he will command the tank gunner to fire 125 mm powerful main gun on your Valour frigate and tank will sink your warship, your Soweto navy CANNOT retaliate and hit target.

.

So, in your picture, are you saying the tank is floating?

Because, unless there is land under it - you are saying that it is floating.

Mayor101010:
If Nigeria can once agin get it right in terms of good leadership and economic stability, no millitary force in the whole of Africa will be able to withstand the Nigerian millitary force. Even some of the heavyweights i.e france, Great Britain will not find it easy with the Nigerian millitary forces. You think the Nigeria millitary force is a joke? I bet you will be in for a suprise.

Holy sh1t the ammount of pain the brits or french would unleash on you.

It would be a cake walk for them - even the brits who dont have a carrier.

agaugust:




Fishing boat is NOT stealth, Valour frigate radar detected it, that is why your sailors fires 3 times on the same target, the radar gave them EXACT and PRECISION co-ordinate position of the vessel, yet your donkey brained blue water navy fired 76 mm gun 3 times and missed target 3 times.


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Who said it was radar detection?

Who said it was the 76mm?

Who said they were directly engageing it?

Who said it was the SAN?

Citations please!!

Henry120:


Your incompetent sailors shot a 76mm at a poor fisherman's vessel, and they still missed.

R3tarded S.A sailors

Zero menstion was made of whitch of 3 ships fired on a fishing boat in a training area.

saengine:


What is a Navy frigate doing in 5m of water? Which is the depth limit of the T-72 water crossing. Are you sure you're a military researcher?

Video 1: T-72 tank crossing water COMPLETELY submerged. Doing what YOU...."the military researcher" said it does NOT do. Crossing at 00:52.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E3eDA29iyk


Video 2. T-90 tank doing the same thing. Completely
submerged.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-QWQsDNsRs



Your pic is not a crossing at the max depth of 5m. You can even see the soil being kicked up behind it. That tank has its tracks on the surface of the trench. You fraud.

Bwahahaha....you are an internet based commentator

Each step I take you is where you stop and google, then quickly find something to post

Yes, I say it again, a tank is NOT a submarine and cannot fully submerge like a submarine, how many seconds did your tanks in the video stay under water? They can take quick dip across a river, they cannot stay submerged, no aquatic apparatus for crew underwater survival. They will soon die, and the engine compartment will succumb to small leakages that will soon flood the tank inside.

Tank is NOT = Submarine.

Even some car can quickly drive under a flood completely submerged with no snorkel for some seconds and come out alive, but with some interior flooding.

5m depth for Valour frigate? Did I say that? Now run back to google search on internet after I take you one step further.

During beach assault, tanks do not normally fully submerge, they snorkel or simply fording, yes, but their gun barrel is outside and ready to fire in a hostile area. Any tank fully snorkeling in a danger zone is looking for quick death from the enemy.

War is new to South Africans so you cannot think outside the box and picture a real combat scenario.

Your youtube videos are demo in-house videos, I will show you real war scenario today.

Beach landing amphibious assault, Frigates can escort landing ships to coastline, yes at the right depth, frigates go to coastline. Tanks like a T-72 in a beach assault can sight an enemy ship and attack it, the tank can fire up to 4km away from the beach deep into the ocean target.

Let me show you what real war looks like below....Now go seek more help from you tube
.

EVarn:
lol.No sane leader wants to have a revolt on his hands before even completing his first term in office.
No one cares what the muslim doctrine dictates,the shenanigans written in the "holy" quran should be restricted to mosques.
Even in the north,sharia can never be implemented due to the fact that there is no state in Nigeria that is totally muslim populated,there will always be at least 30% of christian population,and that is not even considering the traditional pantheon worshippers.
Even buhari knows that dabbling into the implementation of sharia will be a big disaster.
There is also politics to consider,if buhari even mentions anything like sharia,PDP will get new ammo to turn the people against him,and APC will fall.

Will Buhari impose sharia?


http://shoebat.com/2015/04/01/nigeria-will-the-newly-elected-islamist-president-impose-sharia-law-on-the-christian-half-of-nigerias-population/


Buhari wants sharia in Nigeria.


http://newson247.com/2015/03/21/buhari-wants-sharia-law-everywhere-ex-us-envoy/#sthash.TDtBuBNO.dpbs

Bihari wants Sharia implemented in the whole of Nigeria.

http://pointblanknews.com/pbn/exclusive/buhari-calls-total-sharia-nigeria/

Msauza:

Will Buhari impose sharia?
http://shoebat.com/2015/04/01/nigeria-will-the-newly-elected-islamist-president-impose-sharia-law-on-the-christian-half-of-nigerias-population/
Buhari wants sharia in Nigeria.
http://newson247.com/2015/03/21/buhari-wants-sharia-law-everywhere-ex-us-envoy/#sthash.TDtBuBNO.dpbs
Bihari wants Sharia implemented in the whole of Nigeria.
http://pointblanknews.com/pbn/exclusive/buhari-calls-total-sharia-nigeria/

Those citations are merely opinions of foreign analysts{which are rarely factual}.
I sincerely doubt that buhari is reckless enough to even try to implement sharia throughout Nigeria,it will not only ruin his political career,it will also destroy his political party.
Such things shouldnt be toyed with,afterall,many men have been killed for less.

agaugust:


Bwahahaha....you are an internet based commentator

Each step I take you is where you stop and google, then quickly find something to post

Yes, I say it again, a tank is NOT a submarine and cannot fully submerge like a submarine, how many seconds did your tanks in the video stay under water? They can take quick dip across a river, they cannot stay submerged, no aquatic apparatus for crew underwater survival. They will soon die, and the engine compartment will succumb to small leakages that will soon flood the tank inside.

Tank is NOT = Submarine.

Even some car can quickly drive under a flood completely submerged with no snorkel for some seconds and come out alive, but with some interior flooding.

5m depth for Valour frigate? Did I say that? Now run back to google search on internet after I take you one step further.

During beach assault, tanks do not normally fully submerge, they snorkel or simply fording, yes, but their gun barrel is outside and ready to fire in a hostile area. Any tank fully snorkeling in a danger zone is looking for quick death from the enemy.

War is new to South Africans so you cannot think outside the box and picture a real combat scenario.

Your youtube videos are demo in-house videos, I will show you real war scenario today.

Beach landing amphibious assault, Frigates can escort landing ships to coastline, yes at the right depth, frigates go to coastline. Tanks like a T-72 in a beach assault can sight an enemy ship and attack it, the tank can fire up to 4km away from the beach deep into the ocean target.

Let me show you what real war looks like below....Now go seek more help from you tube
.

Again you have failed. You have typed and typed and typed pretending to know what you are talking about. Tanks like the T-72, T-90, Tiger tank etc all have snorkels which provide air to the crew and the crew compartment is sealed from water. So tell us...what will kill the crew? Fo.ol.


The T-72 tank has a water forging MAX DEPTH of 5m. What is a Navy frigate doing anywhere near 5m of water? Meaning it traverses on the bottom of the river bed, while its complete snorkel/air supply sticks out of the water surface.

Main battle tanks do not do sea operations. Light infantry vehicles can. Light infantry vehicle =/= main battle tank..

You have been caught out. You fraud. Now you are panicking.

agaugust:


Bwahahaha....you are an internet based commentator

Each step I take you is where you stop and google, then quickly find something to post

Yes, I say it again, a tank is NOT a submarine and cannot fully submerge like a submarine, how many seconds did your tanks in the video stay under water? They can take quick dip across a river, they cannot stay submerged, no aquatic apparatus for crew underwater survival. They will soon die, and the engine compartment will succumb to small leakages that will soon flood the tank inside.

Tank is NOT = Submarine.

Even some car can quickly drive under a flood completely submerged with no snorkel for some seconds and come out alive, but with some interior flooding.

5m depth for Valour frigate? Did I say that? Now run back to google search on internet after I take you one step further.

During beach assault, tanks do not normally fully submerge, they snorkel or simply fording, yes, but their gun barrel is outside and ready to fire in a hostile area. Any tank fully snorkeling in a danger zone is looking for quick death from the enemy.

War is new to South Africans so you cannot think outside the box and picture a real combat scenario.

Your youtube videos are demo in-house videos, I will show you real war scenario today.

Beach landing amphibious assault, Frigates can escort landing ships to coastline, yes at the right depth, frigates go to coastline. Tanks like a T-72 in a beach assault can sight an enemy ship and attack it, the tank can fire up to 4km away from the beach deep into the ocean target.

Let me show you what real war looks like below....Now go seek more help from you tube
.

I would say I have never Seen such stupidity by you. But that would be a lie.

EVarn:
Those citations are merely opinions of foreign analysts{which are rarely factual}.
I sincerely doubt that buhari is reckless enough to even try to implement sharia throughout Nigeria,it will not only ruin his political career,it will also destroy his political party.
Such things shouldnt be toyed with,afterall,many men have been killed for less.

Words as said by Mr Bihari

“I will continue to show openly and
inside me the total commitment to
the Sharia movement that is sweeping
all over Nigeria ,” Mr. Buhari said. “God
willing, we will not stop the agitation for
the total implementation of the Sharia in
the country.”

Msauza:

Words as said by Mr Bihari
“I will continue to show openly and
inside me the total commitment to
the Sharia movement that is sweeping
all over Nigeria ,” Mr. Buhari said. “God
willing, we will not stop the agitation for
the total implementation of the Sharia in
the country.”

That was an unfortunate statement he made far back in 2007,i sincerely doubt that it really holds much relevance anymore.
According to him,"..he is now a reformed democrat who believes in equal right of all Nigerians irrespective of religious or ethnic affiliations".
So,do away with any talk of this sharia nonsense.Nobody can implement sharia in Nigeria,the mere idea itself is an incitement to violence.

agaugust:


Bwahahaha....you are an internet based commentator

Each step I take you is where you stop and google, then quickly find something to post

Yes, I say it again, a tank is NOT a submarine and cannot fully submerge like a submarine, how many seconds did your tanks in the video stay under water? They can take quick dip across a river, they cannot stay submerged, no aquatic apparatus for crew underwater survival. They will soon die, and the engine compartment will succumb to small leakages that will soon flood the tank inside.

Tank is NOT = Submarine.

Even some car can quickly drive under a flood completely submerged with no snorkel for some seconds and come out alive, but with some interior flooding.

5m depth for Valour frigate? Did I say that? Now run back to google search on internet after I take you one step further.

During beach assault, tanks do not normally fully submerge, they snorkel or simply fording, yes, but their gun barrel is outside and ready to fire in a hostile area. Any tank fully snorkeling in a danger zone is looking for quick death from the enemy.

War is new to South Africans so you cannot think outside the box and picture a real combat scenario.

Your youtube videos are demo in-house videos, I will show you real war scenario today.

Beach landing amphibious assault, Frigates can escort landing ships to coastline, yes at the right depth, frigates go to coastline. Tanks like a T-72 in a beach assault can sight an enemy ship and attack it, the tank can fire up to 4km away from the beach deep into the ocean target.

Let me show you what real war looks like below....Now go seek more help from you tube
.

Those are amphibious IFV's not MBT's

The video's posted clearly show an MBT fully submerged with a snorkel for air for both the crew and the engine.

Now, answer my question:

patches689:

So, in your picture, are you saying the tank is floating?
Because, unless there is land under it - you are saying that it is floating.

So, what are you saying? That MBT's float?

andrewza:



I would say I have never Seen such stupidity by you. But that would be a lie.

For a long time I thought he was a troll, a very long time.

But trolling implies deception. I have come to the conclusion that he is simply incredibly and hilariously stu.pid

agaugust:



Yes, I say it again, a tank is NOT a submarine and cannot fully submerge like a submarine, how many seconds did your tanks in the video stay under water? They can take quick dip across a river, they cannot stay submerged, no aquatic apparatus for crew underwater survival. They will soon die, and the engine compartment will succumb to small leakages that will soon flood the tank inside.

Tank is NOT = Submarine.

Even some car can quickly drive under a flood completely submerged with no snorkel for some seconds and come out alive, but with some interior flooding.

.

You have destroyed your own argument

1. A tank cannot float
2. A tank cannot stay submerged for long

So then, how does your T72 sail out to sea to attack the valour class?

@chief agaugust,i'm a bit more interested in the new military hardware acquisition by the DHQ,is the T-72 MBT as potent in coventional warfare as it is in COIN operations?.I'm curious since there have been convincing reports that despite its ruggedness,the T-72 is a useless relic when it comes to conventional warfare.

EVarn:
@chief agaugust,i'm a bit more interested in the new military hardware acquisition by the DHQ,is the T-72 MBT as potent in coventional warfare as it is in COIN operations?.I'm curious since there have been convincing reports that despite its ruggedness,the T-72 is a useless relic when it comes to conventional warfare.

They store the ammo in the turret of the T-72

This means that a hit that would not normally destroy other tanks will cause a catastrophic destruction of the T-72 as it causes the ammo to go off.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfbMP1yWsJ4

(Skip to 2:00 min in)

Hence why you see so many pictures of the T-72 with its turret blown clean off.

While the lack of spalling liners means that hits that dont penetrate the T-72 cause "spalling" on the inside of the turret (small peices of metal fly around the inside of the tank) which causes horrific crew fatalities.

That being said, its effective against older generation ATGM's and RPG's and is better than anything else in the region (unless Cameroon gets the MBT 3000 from China)

For me, its a necessary evil for Nigeria to aquire them now to win the war. But its not a dynasty MBT that you can expect 30-40 years service from. Something like the MBT 3000, Al-Khalid (Type90-II) or Type-99, or T80U (and variants) or any of the NATO big 4 (Leo2A7, Chally 2, Abrams, Leclerc) would be a more sound investment as despite being more expensive you will get much better capabilities and a MUUUCH longer operational life span.

patches689:

They store the ammo in the turret of the T-72
This means that a hit that would not normally destroy other tanks will cause a catastrophic destruction of the T-72 as it causes the ammo to go off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfbMP1yWsJ4
(Skip to 2:00 min in)
Hence why you see so many pictures of the T-72 with its turret blown clean off
While the lack of spalling liners means that hits that dont penetrate the T-72 cause "spalling" on the inside of the turret (small peices of metal fly around the inside of the tank) which causes horrific crew fatalities.
That being said,its effective against older generation ATGM's and RPG's and is better than anything else in the region(unless Cameroon gets the MBT 3000 from China)
For me,its a necessary evil for Nigeria to aquire them now to win the war. But its not a dynasty MBT that you can expect 30-40 years service from.

thanks,i have little knowledge of the T-72,and i dont just want to swallow everything written on google.

EVarn:
thanks,i have little knowledge of the T-72,and i dont just want to swallow everything written on google.

Always happy to have a mature discussion about military equipment.

Anyway, another thing is that the T62 is actually a better tank than the T-72. So there is that as well.

@oga agaugust,abeg no vex say i dey disturb you this afternoon,but i want to ask if you or anyone else here know the number of T-72 tanks we recieved recently,and where they are from.
The new delivery seem to have ERA on it,unlike some of the earlier ones from czech.

patches689:


Always happy to have a mature discussion about military equipment.

Anyway, another thing is that the T62 is actually a better tank than the T-72. So there is that as well.

Why do you say that?,werent the T-62s commissioned in the 1960s,surely the T-72 is a more upgraded version of the T-62.

EVarn:
Why do you say that?,werent the T-62s commissioned in the 1960s,surely the T-72 is a more upgraded version of the T-62.

Yes, the T72 is newer

But that is because the Russians found the T62 too expensive to mass produce and operate

So they developed a plan

The majority of their armored units would be "mobility" formations using the T72 which is cheaper to mass produce and operate

They would then have a select few, elite, "spearhead" units which would operate the T62

Mobility units would wear the enemy down (and take the heavyest casualties) and then spearhead units would punch holes in the enemy lines which mobility units would pour through and try to exploit the breakthrough as much as possible (again taking heavy casualties)

Basically, economically, the T72 is better. But as a tank the T62 is better.

FYI the T80 evolved from the T62 not the T72