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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 6:06pm On Apr 03, 2015 |
agaugust: Propaganda "If defeat for South Africa meant the loss of 31 men, three tanks, five armoured vehicles and three aircraft, then we'd lost. If victory for Fapla and the Cubans meant the loss of 4,600 men, 94 tanks, 100 armoured vehicles, 9 aircraft and other Soviet equiptment valued at more than a billion Rands, then they'd won." http://jtf.org/forum/index.php?topic=18633.5;wap2 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 6:15pm On Apr 03, 2015 |
agaugust: Nigeria has no BVR missiles. OR If they do they cannot fly above 6km meaning Gripen at 6.5km are safe. Here is how it will go: South African surveilance sattelight details Nigerian positions - up to date, no way to camoflauge them South African Gripen perform high level recon with digital surveilance pods. Superior Gripen use stand-off munitions (glide bombs) and PGM's to destroy NAF on the Ground as well as all NA fixed AA positions, radar instilations, communications hubs, command centers, supply dumps and motor pools. Gripen and Hawk then begin targeting Nigerian ground forces with PGM's and Glide-Bombs South Africa Oryx with EW kits erode what is left of Nigerian communications. South African recce's perform raids on important infastructure and positions up to 500km behind your lines, assassinating generals, blowing up vehical and aircraft storage depo's, supply and ammo dumps, training facilities etc Now that we have destroyed your eyes, ears and brain we move onto the next phase. Nigerian helicopters are destroyed with Starstreak, CRAM and by Hawks/Gripen Rooivalk use ZT3's to pick off Nigerian armor Ratels use ZT3's to pick off Nigerian armor South African Artillery with longer range and better guidance (Link-ZA) accurately destroy all dense Nigerian formations as well as entrenched formations, communications hubs, supply dumps. South African ELINT systems can tell every move the Nigerian army makes - up to 40km away, and calls artillery on it. South African MRLS systems with longer range provide counter-battery fire to destroy Nigerian artillery South African mechanized units with superior maneuverability, tactical-awareness and firepower out fox Nigerian troops and exploit space to get into their rear and cut them off, leaving them behind to be mopped up by Motorized Infantry South African air-assault Brigade deploys troops deep in the Nigerian rear, cutting off escape South African Parachute regiment seized bridges, airfeilds, startegic geographical positions and further cuts off escape Your army was overwhelmed by Boko Haram... do you honestly think you stand a chance against us? 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 6:16pm On Apr 03, 2015 |
agaugust: Pic related is what happens when you lose 94 tanks trying to kill 3 South African tanks 1 Like
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 6:21pm On Apr 03, 2015 |
andrewza:who else would be cruising a warship around cape algehes and shooting at innocent fishermen if not the SAN? 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:22pm On Apr 03, 2015 |
agaugust:Intercept it outside its radar angular coverage. As it has an inferior radar, all your F-7 will be ambushed in this similar way. That's what 4 Gen jets do. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 6:24pm On Apr 03, 2015 |
EVarn: Germans. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:25pm On Apr 03, 2015 |
agaugust:which are expired oh righty then. SA still has the Milan ATGM. Air to surface missiles are useless if you can't deploy them in a contested air space. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:34pm On Apr 03, 2015 |
agaugust:Before going anywhere! Show us Nigeria mobile air traffic and control capabilities. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:35pm On Apr 03, 2015 |
EVarn:Exercise between SA and German navies. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 6:43pm On Apr 03, 2015 |
To clear this up on the boat. This is not the first or last time a civlian boat was shot at by a warship. http://www.witn.com/home/headlines/Navy_Fires_At_Civilian_Boat_Commander_Loses_Job_130104798.html?device=phone&c=y |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:22pm On Apr 03, 2015 |
andrewza: Nothing cleared. Your Navy deliberately fired 3 rounds from a 76mm at a fishing boat, yet they missed. Sheer incompetence! 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 7:24pm On Apr 03, 2015 |
andrewza:hehehehe....when in doubt,blame the germans?.lol,did the germans make a 8000km journey into your territorial waters just to come and start shooting at fishing boats? Both south african and german navies were both undergoing naval exercise in the area,why blame the germans?. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 7:26pm On Apr 03, 2015 |
Henry120: who said it was deliberatly taregeted? who said it was the 76mm? who said it was us? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 7:26pm On Apr 03, 2015 |
EVarn: Of the 4 vessels present, 3 were German. Its only a 25% chance that it was us |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 7:30pm On Apr 03, 2015 |
MikeCZAR:Clearly,it was the SAN that shot at the fishing boat.I refuse to believe that the germans are that incompetent. moreover,this isnt the first time both SAN and SAAF have directly threatened the life of innocent civilians with reckless maneovers and sheer incompetence. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:33pm On Apr 03, 2015 |
Henry120:"Your Navy deliberately fired 3 rounds from a 76mm at a fishing boat, yet they missed." Were you there? How do you now it was the SAN, when all the evidence suggests it was the Germans. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 7:38pm On Apr 03, 2015 |
patches689:It is almost certain that it was the SAN that fired deadly rounds of munitions at the innocent fishermen.afterall,it was the germans leading the exercise,while it was the job of the south africans to secure and lockdown the area to enable the procession of the naval exercise{which they clearly failed in doing}. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 7:55pm On Apr 03, 2015 |
EVarn: 2 Germans vs 1 SAN. Odds are German. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 7:57pm On Apr 03, 2015 |
EVarn: And you know this how? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 7:57pm On Apr 03, 2015 |
jln115: Citation needed. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:01pm On Apr 03, 2015 |
andrewza:? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:08pm On Apr 03, 2015 |
patches689: It is 100 percent confirmed. It was you r3tards who took the shots, however your incompetence saved the life of Anthony day. And you pitiful liar!!! There were only 2 German Ships participating in that particular round, as the 3rd ship had since sailed to Ghana for exercise Obangame. You terrible terrible liar! 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 8:10pm On Apr 03, 2015 |
andrewza:why was it only one vessel that fired at the fishing boat?,there were about 3 or 4 vessels in the exercise,only 1 vessel was south african,and only 1 vessel shot at the civilian target,therefore,wouldnt it be accurate to conclude that the ship which fired at the fishing boat was SAN? 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:15pm On Apr 03, 2015 |
Henry120:"It is 100 percent confirmed" Just sucking things out of your thumb doesnt confirm it, i want facts,quotes,citations........you know what dont even bother because your not going to be able to, nowhere has it been confirmed that it was the SAN that fired those shots. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 8:16pm On Apr 03, 2015 |
andrewza:through a systematic analysis of the event.isnt the area of cape algehes under the south african territorial maritime authority?,then whose job is it to secure and lockdown the area for a naval exercise?,do you expect the germans to do that for you? 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 8:19pm On Apr 03, 2015 |
EVarn: Have you ever tried to lock down a piece of ocean. I have. Fishing boats ignore radio commands and nav warnings. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 8:20pm On Apr 03, 2015 |
EVarn: Nope. If they thought it was a target drone then the fireing order does not go by country. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:38pm On Apr 03, 2015 |
patches689: AR-1 missile can be used by land based Nigerian infantry, range is 10 km. 30 units is enough to make SANDF cry. SANDF has no CRAM ammunition yet, SIPRI did NOT say so. You have nothing like that. F-7 BVR AAM has killed Gripen from 35 km away, Hawk jets don't even dare to fly, they are captured on ground by Nigerian army. Rooivalk is a nice breakfast meal for Roland SAM with 8 km range, Alpha jets are too much for Rooivalk. SANDF is dëad . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 8:44pm On Apr 03, 2015 |
agaugust: Which land based vehicle can fire AR-1 missile? You and your fake engineering...just making sh*t up. Show us which vehicle fires AR-1? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 8:48pm On Apr 03, 2015 |
andrewza:And the best thing to do is to shoot at them?,jesus,these people pay tax!,they are citizens who should be protected at all cost. The SAN clearly failed to properly secure the area for the naval exercise,and it would be sensible to conclude that the SAN,in a fit of unholy rage,opened fire on the fishing boat.But they ended up missing the target due to incompetence. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:49pm On Apr 03, 2015 |
patches689: Nigeria clears land mines, and we have T-55 mine clearing tanks plus infantry mine detectors. We cleared over 1,500 Boko Haram mines. Your current SANDF has not even seen a land mine in modern day battle, because Seleka has none I guess . 1 Like
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 8:56pm On Apr 03, 2015 |
andrewza:Surely 3 military vessels can identify the difference between a target drone and a fishing boat. clearly,it was the dubious handiwork of the SAN.Afterall,the german warships have the capability to spot and identify any seacraft or aircraft in a 10km radius,also they wouldnt have fired without properly confirming what exactly it was that they were shooting at. 1 Like |
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