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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 7:16am On Apr 04, 2015 |
agaugust: [size=15pt]FIRST: You didnt read the link? Your system: The ground surveillance radar DR PT 2 “Rasit” was introduced on the armoured personnel carrier "fox" in the German Bundeswehr in 1986/87. It has a maximum detection range of about 8 000 m for pedestrians with military equipment, to about 20 000 m for vehicles and helicopters. http://www.radartutorial.eu/19.kartei/karte414.en.html Our system Thales Squire man-portable system, which was ordered for Cytoon, can plot a pedestrian at 10km, a vehicle at 21km, a tank at 28km, a helicopter at 21km, a boat at 12km and a ship at 48km, Thales avers. Because it uses a frequency modulated continuous wave Doppler radar, the Squire is also virtually undetectable to hostile electronic warfare experts, it adds. http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=25861:cytoon-handed-to-the-army&catid=50:Land&Itemid=105 We have 14 such systems. You have 2-3 We win, ours has longer range and is stealth. Your Shilka's are not ISTAR - our equipment is. And is data-link capable meaning instant transfer of info to artillery. You want to talk about Shilka? Lol - try our 4 units of ESR220 Thutlwa with 120km range, or our Umlindi AR3D long-range radar of 500km or our Plessey Tactical Mobile Radar (TMR) Again, you lose NIGERIA IS 66 YEARS BEHIND IN SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY!!![/size]
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 7:17am On Apr 04, 2015 |
saengine: Pic related is Augugbugug right now
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 7:21am On Apr 04, 2015 |
agaugust: Yes, for instillation security Not for deployment in high intensity combat Our mobile air radar will set up a massive 500km air umbrella for each system Our mobile ground systems will set up 14 different zones where everything within 40km can be detected and fire co-ords instantly sent via data-link to artillery and air units You have no way of competeing - your little soft skin vehicals dont compare to SANDF ratels and their 20km observation cabailities!! You cant even post the spec for your pathetic little hand-held video camera's strapped on civilian vehicals!! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 7:22am On Apr 04, 2015 |
agaugust: And once you proved you have them i stopped saying you didnt. I am not unreasonable. Fact of the matter is that all sources place your order to be around 59 T-72's, with less than a dozen actually inside Nigeria |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 7:24am On Apr 04, 2015 |
agaugust: How does this compare to a armored vehical with 20km vision that can provide instant firing solutions to artillery via data-link?? You dont even know the specifications of your own equipment!
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:25am On Apr 04, 2015 |
patches689: [size=16pt]I think you have blind eye like your navy that cannot see target ![]() ![]() On that same web link..... Figure 1: Armored reconnaissance radar “Rasit” Description of the radar set, tactical-technical characteristics Описание; Основные тактико-технические характеристики (Базы данных) Specifications frequency: I–Band pulse repetition time (PRT): pulse repetition frequency (PRF): pulsewidth (τ): receive time: dead time: peak power: 3 kW average power: instrumented range: 40 km range resolution: beamwidth: hits per scan: antenna rotation: 1.5 rpm http://www.radartutorial.eu/19.kartei/karte414.en.html Then other sources : http://www.worldlibrary.org/articles/rasit [/size] |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 7:28am On Apr 04, 2015 |
agaugust: I can see just fine. Pic related - your own source 20km max detection range for vehicals and helicopters And according to SIPRI you only have 2 of them!! We have 14
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:29am On Apr 04, 2015 |
patches689: You have ONLY one such vehicle.....that's a big problem for large battle space the size of Scotland like in Boko Haram war. Nigeria has over 50 armoured vehicles all with radars, range from 20 km to 40 km, plus dozens of TV surveillance Toyotas, we spread battlefield surveillance everywhere.....land space as big as Scotland. Your SANDF will cover only one town alone, Mandela's village ![]() ![]() . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:30am On Apr 04, 2015 |
patches689: See the right hand side of the same page ....blind man ![]() ![]() On that same web link..... Figure 1: Armored reconnaissance radar “Rasit” Description of the radar set, tactical-technical characteristics Описание; Основные тактико-технические характеристики (Базы данных) Specifications frequency: I–Band pulse repetition time (PRT): pulse repetition frequency (PRF): pulsewidth (τ): receive time: dead time: peak power: 3 kW average power: instrumented range: 40 km range resolution: beamwidth: hits per scan: antenna rotation: 1.5 rpm http://www.radartutorial.eu/19.kartei/karte414.en.html |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 7:35am On Apr 04, 2015 |
agaugust: Who says we only have one? you? Who says that your armored vehicals have effective ground search? you? Who says that your Shilka's have radar? you? Furthermore, SIPRI says you have 30 Shilka Citations needed!! Until then Nigeria is 66 years behind South Africa!! Pathetic banana republic army! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:37am On Apr 04, 2015 |
patches689: Show proof, you have ONLY ONE Ratel until proved. Nigeria has : 2 units RASIT.....40 km range 30 units Shilka.... 20 km range 16 units Roland.... 18 km range Dozens of Toyota TV surveillance We have over 70 vehicles for surveillance. You can NEVER match that number ! We rule battle space ! . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 7:39am On Apr 04, 2015 |
agaugust: Ok, lets do some math. The Thales surveilance radar has a max range of 40km, in a circular area. This means that each single radar can cover an area of 5026 square kilometers. We have 14. That means SANDF can cover an area of 70364 square kilometers with percision and undetectable ground search radar. That means we can cover a country with an area of Sierra Leone, Ireland, Georgia or Sri Lanka with such radar. You hear that? That is the sound of your a**hole getting torn apart ![]() |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 7:40am On Apr 04, 2015 |
agaugust: Shilka - air surveilance, not applicable to ground surveilance Roland - air surveilance, not applicable to ground surveilance. What are the capabilities of your Toyota ground surveilance? Post it! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:41am On Apr 04, 2015 |
patches689: Citation needed for 14 units . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 7:42am On Apr 04, 2015 |
agaugust: Project Cytoon will see the gain 14 Thales Squire ground surveillance radars, 65 Thales Sophie thermal imagers, processors and communications equipment as part of a battlefield surveillance and mobile intelligence processing system. http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=25861:cytoon-handed-to-the-army&catid=50:Land&Itemid=105 |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:42am On Apr 04, 2015 |
patches689: Classified data. What is the radar range of your submarine? Post it . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 7:43am On Apr 04, 2015 |
agaugust: Oh, so now its classified? Convenient excuse Can you even name the system? And dont try to compare the classified nature of a multi million dollar submarine with a video-camera strapped to a civilian car. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:44am On Apr 04, 2015 |
patches689: Bwhahaha ![]() ![]() 14 toy radars carried on foot by men walking ![]() ![]() The Ratel surveillance is what I respected a bit, but you have ONLY ONE ![]() ![]() . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:45am On Apr 04, 2015 |
patches689: Name the radar on SANDF submarine and tell us it's range ! . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 7:45am On Apr 04, 2015 |
agaugust: 14 toy radars that have longer range than your 2 radars 14 toy radars that cannot be detected unlike your two radars 14 toy radars that instantly send targeting info via datalink unlike your 2 radars 14 toy radars that together cover 70364 square kilometers with percision and undetectable ground search radar. That means we can cover a country with an area of Sierra Leone, Ireland, Georgia or Sri Lanka with such radar. Grow up, only a fool would say that their small size is somehow a bad thing. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 7:46am On Apr 04, 2015 |
agaugust: Why are you changing the topic? We are talking about how Nigeria is 66 years behind South Africa in terms of ground surveillance. Not submarines. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:48am On Apr 04, 2015 |
patches689: That is what we call an army, integrated control of entire battlespace, air search and ground search. The Army will face threat from air and land . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:49am On Apr 04, 2015 |
patches689: Just telling you that not all equipment data is published on internet, unless you too can tell us data of your submarine radar. You classify that, we too classify our land TV range because of Boko Haram, they don't know how far a range we can see them. Nigerian army commanders are not fools . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 7:50am On Apr 04, 2015 |
agaugust: Oh - so now you want to compare air search radars? So, we have established that SANDF can cover an area of 70364 square kilometers with state-of-the-art nearly invisible ground search radar and targeting systems. You want to talk air search radar? Ohhh boy, you must be g.ay because you seem to love getting buttwrecked. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 7:50am On Apr 04, 2015 |
agaugust: Who says they are classified? You? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:51am On Apr 04, 2015 |
patches689: 14 toy radars that have no armour or self mobility....and no defensive weapon. You try go near a Shilka or RASIT and see fire . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:53am On Apr 04, 2015 |
patches689: SANDF 500 km range radar is NOT mobile, I proved that months ago from defence web, it's a fixed ground radar in your city ![]() ![]() . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 7:54am On Apr 04, 2015 |
agaugust: Their armor is their stealth Their mobility is in the fact that they can fit on a mans back. Can your RASIT sneak ontop of a hill? Can it hide in some bushes? Their job is not to fight - it is to hide and watch. RASIT is a big peice of metal that is easy to detect - ours radars can detect you from 28km away, you can only detect our radar from 8km away. That says it all. SHilka is not ground search. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:55am On Apr 04, 2015 |
patches689: Nigerian radars are about 50, all mobile and on armour. We will cover land area of Scotland, not your own imaginary 70364 sq km. A 50 km range radar will cover only about 2,000 km in 360 degree mode. . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 7:59am On Apr 04, 2015 |
agaugust: 2 fixed, 2 deployable http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/-and-logistics-wizards-the-saafs-mobile-deployment-wing-2012-04-13 |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 8:00am On Apr 04, 2015 |
agaugust: Those 50 are not ground search. What are the combined radiu's of each system? Break it down for us, show us how you came to your conclusion. That 70364 sq km is just the Air-Ground search of our 14 Thales Squire Systems. Do you want me to work out the combined total of our air-search systems? Also, without a data-link and without systems fusion you cannot accuratly moniter across all systems - you cannot see the entire airspace at once. With our data-link every single system is intergrated - a commander can see the whole airspace on one screen. |
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