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Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by TheBlue5: 2:32am On Apr 04, 2015 |
I was reading the CNN news article, that the Igbo could be the lost tribe of Gad. Wait, wait, 'Could be' you mean they are!?" Now one of the reporters says that "they lack evidence". Well let me show you evidence! Argument#1: "The Igbo people started calling themselves Jews in the 18th century, so it's a new theory that they cannot be Jews!" Well, bible scholars started calling Jesus a Jew in the 18th century as well. In fact the word 'jew' started in the 18th century. Does that mean that Jesus & the Jews in Israel are not Jews? Absolutely Not! In fact the Igbo people use to call themselves Hebrews and not Jews before the 'white' people came, even the slave owners did. The slave owners had a sign they put up that said "Fine...the Heeboes" Argument# 2: "The Igbo name for 'Eri' does not sound like the Hebrew name for 'Eri'" Umm haha you do know that the Igbo language and hebrew language are two different languages right? Of course they're not going to sound the same! Argument#3: "they lack evidence" HMM • Evidence # 1: "Paleo-Hebrew Script has been found in various places in the Igbo Territories of Nigeria." Paleo-hebrew is Ancient Hebrew language if the Igbo people are not Israelites then how did they get their hands on Paleo-Hebrew Script? Not convincing? Here is more! • Evidence #2: "Drawings like unto the Mogen David, Star of David have been found in various places of Igboland prior to missionary arrival to Nigeria." If the Igbo are not Israelites then how did they get not one but MANY stars of David in their hands? Still need some more? • Evidence #3: “One scholar who visited Iboland, saw a swastika there and questioned how the Ebos/Hebrews could have this symbol and be Jewish. Sar Amariel answered the question stating, ‘This is an ancient Hebrew symbol that represents the sun…’” – Document: Tabernacle Congregation Prayer Yeshiva to HRM A.E. Chukwuemeka-Eri (Ezerora 34th and KAK Ji Ofor Igbo) King of the Igbos And indeed swastikas have been found on the reliefs of ancient synagogues in Israel. No wonder the Nazis adopted this symbol to imply they were like the sun and greater that the Star of David." Need EVEN MORE EVIDENCE?!?! • Evidence #4 (my favorite): The Stone Throne at Obu-Gad with the Paleo-Hebrew Inscription at the foot of the throne as well as the onyx stone. It is interesting to note that the stone representing Gad (as well as the other Tribes) in the Priestly shoulder stones was made of onyx, which is black (Ex. 39:6-7). In December 1997 a onyx stone found at the palace of Obu-Gad, the traditional site where Gad’s son Eri settled was found an onyx stone that bore the Paleo-Hebrew inscription “GAD” upon it which the King Solomon Sephardic Federation confirmed the authenticity of the inscription. This stone throne is reminiscent of Gad’s memorial altar in Joshua chapter 22 in which they did not sacrifice upon but … In time to come your children might speak unto our children, saying, What have ye to do with the Lord God of Israel? For the Lord hath made Jordan a border between us and you, ye children of Reuben and children of Gad; ye have no part in the Lord: so shall your children make our children cease from fearing the Lord. Therefore we said, Let us now prepare to build us an altar, not for burnt offering, nor for sacrifice: But that it may be a witness between us, and you, and our generations after us, that we might do the service of the Lord before him with our burnt offerings, and with our sacrifices, and with our peace offerings; that your children may not say to our children in time to come, Ye have no part in the Lord. Therefore said we, that it shall be, when they should so say to us or to our generations in time to come, that we may say again, Behold the pattern of the altar of the Lord, which our fathers made, not for burnt offerings, nor for sacrifices; but it is a witness between us and you. – Josh. 22:24b-28 Conclusion: The fact that the word 'Gad' was written in PALEO-HEBREW and not any other language must mean one thing: The biblical Gad and the Igbo 'Gad' are the same people, because this would mean that the word 'Gad' on the onyx stone has the same meaning of the biblical Gad which means "A troop" since both are written in Hebrew. Now tell me if the Igbo people are not Israelites then how did they get the Paleo-Hebrew script, the Gad onyx stone, and the stars of David!?!? Need more evidence? Hmm can I slap you? Anyways Here! • Evidence #5: In 1917 the British discovered, about 500 feet below the soil on the palace grounds a solid bronze Star of David indicating the Igbo people may have migrated from the ancient city of David. To commemorate this event, Nigerian kobo coins were minted with a Star of David on it. Hmm if the Igbo are not Israelites then why do the Nigerian kobo coins have the Star of David on them?!?! • Evidence #6: Between 1938-1959 Archeologists led by Thurston Shaw at an Igbo-Ukwu excavation near Oaeri town unearthed what is believed to be a mask portraying an Igbo face. Also unearthed were bronze items, pots, bowls, etc., including a pot believed to be used in the coronation of Igbo Kings. Also found were bronze intricate beads that reflected wealth and artistic skill as well as attests to international trade by ancient Igbos. Some archeological dating tests suggest Igbos have occupied Nigeria as early as 3,000 BCE. Radio carbon dating of the objects suggests that Igbos occupied Nigeria before 800 CE. Much of the items found in this excavation seem to have a modified Egyptian design and or influence which would make since seeing as the first Igbo are said to have come from Egypt in the Pre-Exodus-Exodus. Hmm! Who else came from Egypt other then the Igbo people? Oh yeah! The Israelites! And also apparently the Igbo people were not always in Nigeria since carbon dating says other wise! So, this would debunk the theory that the Igbo were always in Nigeria. Oh and here is another Argument: "The Igbo are a pre-adaminic race" If you believe that then I suggest that you at least rip off a bunch of pages from your bible mostly from the book of genesis. No one! I mean No one is pre-ADAM God destroyed EVERYTHING and EVERYONE except for Noah and his family and the animals Noah saved! Last time I check Igbo people are humans! And all mordern day humans came from Noah! And Noah came from Adam, there is no such thing as a 'pre-Adam', Adam was the first man, the first human, Eve was the first woman, the SECOND human. Credits go to www.hebrewigbo.com 38 Likes 11 Shares |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Mortiple(m): 4:23am On Apr 04, 2015 |
Sorry to tell you that you labored so hard to convince me but could not. Well I am a full blooded Igbo man, not a JEW MAN. ![]() 146 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Fulaman198(m): 4:40am On Apr 04, 2015 |
Netanyahu doesn't like blacks. Look at the way he treats Ethiopian Jews. You are welcome to try it though. Kudos to the Igbos who don't see themselves as Jews. 36 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Nobody: 4:46am On Apr 04, 2015 |
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Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by TheBlue5: 5:13am On Apr 04, 2015 |
I don't think you can, you have to convert to judasim or your parents or grand parents have to be Jews, or a member of your family must have a Israel citizenship. You can get a visa yes if my parents were thinking about going to Israel with a visa and they're not Jews then you can, my church that is not a Jewish church are going to Israel with a visa, but you can't get an israel citizenship unless you convert,. 5 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by TheBlue5: 5:15am On Apr 04, 2015 |
-Mortiple I don't think that all Hebrew are Jews there is like 40 million Igbo not all of them can be hebrew I think only those that are from Anambra state are Hebrews, because Eri did not father the Igbo people he mixed in with them and settled in AnAmbra state. 8 Likes |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Mortiple(m): 6:05am On Apr 04, 2015 |
TheBlue5:Another joke! So only Anambrarians are Igbo Jews, how come we all speak same language? Apparently the Anambrarians forgot their Jewish language (Amharic and/or Hebrew) in Egypt because Igbo language has no semblance with that of the Jew. LOL! When lies are told for too long it starts to gain credence as truth. It is most alarming to see a traditional ruler, HRM AE Chukwuemeka spreading this concocted but disjointed falsehood. Historic facts are beginning to emerge to show that the cross section of Anambraians that unabashedly make this claims are Igala migrants? Yes! It's absurd for a small clan as Nri to arrogate upon itself as the base of Igbo settlement. 17 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by TheBlue5: 7:20am On Apr 04, 2015 |
God scatter the Jews accross the world so there is a tribe in each place so of cousre those Jews that were scattered across the world are going to speak the language of the people that they've fled to that is the whole part of surviving. Secondly, do you have a strong hatred towards the Jewish people? Is that why your denying evidence, because people who have a strong hatred for Jewish people even deny the evidence for the holocaust! And as for th Anambra thing I said "I think" meaning it's a theory. 5 Likes |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by bigfrancis21: 7:34am On Apr 04, 2015 |
Mortiple: It is clear that all Igbo groups did not originate from the same source. The Nri origin of Igboland applies mostly in Anambra state and few descendant communitites in Enugu (i.e Nsukka, Enugwu-Ezike etc) and Delta Igbo (Igbuzo, etc). Imo/Abia people would tell you they did not descend from Nri via Eri but from some where else. If actual DNA tests would be carried out to establish any ancestral connections, no matter how distant they may be, they will be first conducted on Nri males - men from the Nri clan of Anambra state as men pass their Y-chromosome (the male determining chromosome) from father to son to grandson unaltered. Hence the Y-DNA sample of any male picked at random, when tested, would contain an almost preserved copy of his original male ancestor passed down to him from grandfather to father to him unaltered over the years. The legendary Eri group who settled in Nri may have been an originally Hebrew group that wandered away from Egypt during the time of Hebrew presence in Egypt, when the Hebrews were still originally black, further south and settled in the current Anambra area, where they came in contact with an already existing Igbo-speaking group and over time integrated with the larger community. However, they may have brought with them evidence of their years of stay in Egypt such as Hebrew traditions, Egyptian-like pottery and sculpting i.e. Igbo-ukwu crafts, Igbo Pyramids of Udi which are strikingly similar to the steppe pyramids of egypt - all of which they left behind in Nri and environs and being mnemonics of their time in Egypt. The kingdom of Nri was the Igbo group known to produce priests, who were won't to visit other Igbo areas performing religious rites, similar to the religious roles of the Levite tribe of Israel (the tribe that produced the priests of Israel). I am not saying Igbos hould claim Jews. It reeks of inferiority. However, there is some possibility that there might be some ancestral connection between ancient hebrews and ancient Igbo of Nri axis. Notice my usage of 'hebrews' and not 'jews'. Modern so-called Jews are not the original hebrews, they are mainly kazahstanis who converted to Judaism in the 12th century. The original hebrews were a black people, as the bible confirms it. Also, science confirms that the first people on earth were blacks, from which other races were born. The bible says that Adam was the first man on earth. He could not have been white since the white gene, which is recessive cannot produce any other race apart from white. However, only 2 black people will come together and produce offsprings that look like other different races. If Adam was so-called white, at what point in the history of man did black people come by? Or are we inferring here that whites are the first people on earth, who gave birth to the black race?? The ancestral connection between Igbos and ancient hebrews isn't inferiority, however it might prove that Igbo are the original form of the Hebrews, before the hebrews mixed up with the persians, etc and lightened over the years. 34 Likes 9 Shares |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by MrPresident1: 1:13pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
There are ancient hebrews living among aboriginal Igbos, this is also the same with the Yoruba people. Millenia of intermixing has blurred the lines, also the dichotomy is no longer relevant as Christ has died for all, and everyone can now approach God through Him. Every one who is Christ's should expect a beautiful reward from God when Christ appears irrespective of whether one is lineage, or one is grafted. 14 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Nobody: 1:21pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
TheBlue5: I'm from Anambra and I am not of Hebrew/Jewish descent. 12 Likes |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by MrPresident1: 1:31pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
Radoillo: Good for you. My hypothesis is that anyone who is of lineage Hebrew descent would be inexplicably drawn to researching and finding out this matter. Mere whimsical dismissal also holds conversely. This is just an hypothesis. 6 Likes |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Nobody: 3:04pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
Am an Igbo first, Anambraman second and Okijaman but am no fucking Jew, I detest anti-semanticism but am no Jew 3 Likes |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by macof(m): 6:17pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
Same Eri that lived 3000BC survived till 1000AD Na wa o ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by macof(m): 6:22pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
MrPresident1: You are very stuupid to add Yoruba people into your madness. Shameless dogs like you should be packaged and sent to Israel to fight for his father land..as that is what you believe by faith 22 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by TheBlue5: 6:58pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
Radoillo: No one really knows, like I did not know that I came from Africa, you had to ask or do some research, besides some rabbi says they're some people that don't even know they're Israelites. And I'm not meaning that your DNA goes straight to Israel, because only the tribe of Judah & Levi can be identified by DNA but the tribe of Gad however. The 10 tribes now can only be identified now with archeologist evidence,culture evidence, historic evidence, reasoning, logic and Parrellel history. And the fact that at the palace of OBU-Gad the stone throne of Gad has a Paleo-Hebrew writing saying "this throne is for my father Gad" said to be built by Eri, and the onyx stone that has 'Gad' in Paleo-Hebrew is giving a good history on we you guys came from, because I'm 100% sure no one knows we're you guys came from like you people just pop out of no where. Here is the Igbo King lineage, I'm sure you know about it, it starts with Eri. Eri Agulu Engugu 1087-1036 BC Eze Anyiamigbo Ezeora I 1033-958 BC Eze Agwuve Ezeora II 955-895 BC Eze Ojemba Ezeora III 475-388 BC Eze Nochiugo Ezeora IV 387-247 BC Eze Onyeagwanam Ezeora V 242-131 BC Eze Nkwukwu Ezeora VI 130-43 BC Eze Honwagwu Ezeora VII 40 BC-48 AD Eze Aghaegbulem Ezeora VIII 50-144 AD Eze Akadigbo Ezeora IX 147-238 AD Eze Okwuatu-Egwu Ezeora X 239-309 AD Eze Ugam Ezeora XI 315-394 AD Eze Gbujie Ezeora XII 398-452 AD Eze Ilora Ezeora XIII 495-553 AD Eze Dibie Olome Ezeora XIV 555-655 AD Eze Gbukamadu Ezeora XV 657-733 AD Eze Echiebuke Ezeora XVI 737-827 AD Eze Onamadianyi Ezeora XVII 831-913 AD Eze Nwaukpala Ezeora XVIII 916-1001 AD Eze Kwutulumuj Ezeora XIX 1007-1095 AD Eze Idumba Ofomeke Ezeora XX 1100-1176 AD Eze Adidiesi Ezeora XXI 1177-1240 AD Eze Nwaesi Idu Ezeora XXII 1246-1310 AD Eze Obanaidu Ezeora XXIII 1313-1367 AD Eze Chinweze Ezeora XXIV 1370-1446 AD Eze Nwaokpalaora Ezeora XXV 1448-1530 AD Eze Ezem Ezeora XXVI 1534-1608 AD Eze Ezechi Ezeora XXVII 1613-1684 AD Eze Ezemailo Ezeora XXVIII 1691-1752 AD Eze Erimeli Ezeora XXIX 1760-1820 AD Eze Ogodougbo Ezeora Bleep 1826-1860 AD Eze Mabam Ezeora XXXI 1866-1910 AD Eze Ekwo/Eze Chizor Ezeora XXXII 1958-1968 AD Eze Chiezie Ejorh Ezeora XXXIII 1976 AD-Present Eze A.E. Chukwuemeka-Eri Ezeora XXXIIV You guys were here way before Jesus. 20 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by TheBlue5: 7:02pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
macof: lol |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by TheBlue5: 7:06pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
macof: No, did not survive until 1,000 AD here's is the Igbo King lineage Eri Agulu Engugu 1087-1036 BC Eze Anyiamigbo Ezeora I 1033-958 BC Eze Agwuve Ezeora II 955-895 BC Eze Ojemba Ezeora III 475-388 BC Eze Nochiugo Ezeora IV 387-247 BC Eze Onyeagwanam Ezeora V 242-131 BC Eze Nkwukwu Ezeora VI 130-43 BC Eze Honwagwu Ezeora VII 40 BC-48 AD Eze Aghaegbulem Ezeora VIII 50-144 AD Eze Akadigbo Ezeora IX 147-238 AD Eze Okwuatu-Egwu Ezeora X 239-309 AD Eze Ugam Ezeora XI 315-394 AD Eze Gbujie Ezeora XII 398-452 AD Eze Ilora Ezeora XIII 495-553 AD Eze Dibie Olome Ezeora XIV 555-655 AD Eze Gbukamadu Ezeora XV 657-733 AD Eze Echiebuke Ezeora XVI 737-827 AD Eze Onamadianyi Ezeora XVII 831-913 AD Eze Nwaukpala Ezeora XVIII 916-1001 AD Eze Kwutulumuj Ezeora XIX 1007-1095 AD Eze Idumba Ofomeke Ezeora XX 1100-1176 AD Eze Adidiesi Ezeora XXI 1177-1240 AD Eze Nwaesi Idu Ezeora XXII 1246-1310 AD Eze Obanaidu Ezeora XXIII 1313-1367 AD Eze Chinweze Ezeora XXIV 1370-1446 AD Eze Nwaokpalaora Ezeora XXV 1448-1530 AD Eze Ezem Ezeora XXVI 1534-1608 AD Eze Ezechi Ezeora XXVII 1613-1684 AD Eze Ezemailo Ezeora XXVIII 1691-1752 AD Eze Erimeli Ezeora XXIX 1760-1820 AD Eze Ogodougbo Ezeora Bleep 1826-1860 AD Eze Mabam Ezeora XXXI 1866-1910 AD Eze Ekwo/Eze Chizor Ezeora XXXII 1958-1968 AD Eze Chiezie Ejorh Ezeora XXXIII 1976 AD-Present Eze A.E. Chukwuemeka-Eri Ezeora XXXIIV Notice how it starts with a random guy named 'Eri' you guys were here before Jesus according to the King lineage 12 Likes |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by GooseBaba: 8:09pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
MrPresident1: Lmao.!!!! Keep deceiving yourself... So it's in your DNA to be awaken from your slumber at a certain period of time.. I'm yet to see how someone can be ex african, ex yoruba, ex ijebu, ex isoko, ex igbo. But i see a lot of ex hebrew isrealites, ex christains, ex muslim, ex nation of islam and the list goes on... ![]() Guy what is yours is yours, what was never yours can never be yours. 3 Likes |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by TheBlue5: 8:11pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
bigfrancis21: Exactly! Not all Igbo are Hebrews, but definitely those from Anambra state are since that is were Eri built the throne for his father Gad, and that is where Eri settled down in. 2 Likes |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Nobody: 9:56pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
TheBlue5: Then restrict the Hebrew claims to the Umueri group of communities, as some of us Anambrarians do not acknowledge Eri as our ancestor. Are you from Aguleri, by the way? I only ask because of the Aguleri kinglist you posted in your reply to my comment. It is substantially different from the one I know; and I don't (for the life of me) understand how one could stretch 30-odd reigns from the present century into the 2nd millennium BC. 2 Likes |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by ezeagu(m): 11:24pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
TheBlue5: This kings list of 100 year reigns looks like a fairytale or Lord of the rings or something. The oldest existing kingdom is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Emperors_of_Japan and that's from the 6th century BC and there are 125 people in that list. By the way what does Gad mean in Igbo? And how can there be a 'Gad' in Igbo since Igbo syllables never end in consonants apart from m or n? 5 Likes |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by TheBlue5: 6:08am On Apr 05, 2015 |
Radoillo: No I'm not |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by TheBlue5: 6:11am On Apr 05, 2015 |
ezeagu: You ask how can there be a 'Gad' in Igbo yet you guys have a place called 'OBU-Gad' And Obu-Gad just means 'house of Gad' or 'Place of Gad' or 'home of Gad' and how come the current Igbo King believes that all Igbo's are from Israel? He was interviewed by CNN you know... |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by TheBlue5: 6:13am On Apr 05, 2015 |
ezeagu: And you just gave me a link to Emperors in Japan we are not talking about Japan... |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Nobody: 7:04am On Apr 05, 2015 |
TheBlue5: How familiar are you with Aguleri history? What you 'Hebraists' call Obu-Gad was/is actually Obu-Ugam or Obu-Uga, Uga/Ugam being the name of one of the early kings of Aguleri. The name was corrupted only in the last century by people eager to become Jews. And what the current Ezeora Aguleri (stop calling him the Igbo king as if all Igbos recognise his suzerainty) told CNN is immaterial. Anybody with an agenda can claim anything. His ancestors didn't tell the early colonial anthropologists that they were Jews, rather they spoke of links with the Igala.. Heck, his ancestors were not even aware of a place called Israel. The claims only appeared in the last century...after Igbos became Christian and literate and studied the Bible. 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Fulaman198(m): 7:09am On Apr 05, 2015 |
Radoillo: I think Igbos have always been literate. Don't let the Europeans brainwash you. 1 Like |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Nobody: 7:29am On Apr 05, 2015 |
Fulaman198: I think you know what I meant there. Anyway, not all of Igboland was familiar with Nsibidi and the other scripts. The part of Igboland involved in the Eri legends had no scripts and were preliterate societies, unless you want to interprete the ability to decode messages sent with drums and the ikolo as being literate. 2 Likes |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by macof(m): 8:41am On Apr 05, 2015 |
TheBlue5: Just 34 Ezes in over 3000years, btw what's ur source for this list? 3 Likes |
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