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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 10:14am On Apr 05, 2015
MikeCZAR:
India is not number 4.
Who then is number 4?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:18am On Apr 05, 2015
Patchesagain:


Ha!!

We shoot down the PLC-9 missiles with the A-darter.

Love it

Have you ever seen air to air missile shooting down another air to air missile in this world ?

Show me one example.....Fool grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:20am On Apr 05, 2015
andrewza:


They built In SA. Meaning we can build engines.

Proof that Ford engines were built in South Africa, citation needed
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 10:27am On Apr 05, 2015
agaugust:


Ground and air launched PL-9C missiles are the same size, same misile, same fuel load, same speed, same shape, same specifications, same name PL-9C......nothing like PL-9D or PL-9E.....nothing like one for air one for land, all are same name PL-9C same product , same fuel, same range, fuel load determines range of an missile. Fact of basic science.


http://www.deagel.com/Air-to-Air-Missiles/PL-9_a002626001.aspx

"The PL-9C is an improved variant introduced in the 1990s featuring extended range from 5 kilometers to 22 kilometers and increased launch weight (115 kg vs. 123 kg), warhead (10 kg vs. 12 kg) and G maneuvering factor (35g vs. 40g). The PL-9D is a surface-to-air missile variant also introduced in the 1990s. The PL-9D missile system has been ordered by the People's Liberation Army (PLA) ground forces."

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:31am On Apr 05, 2015
Patchesagain:


Also, A-darter can intercept your missiles and you cannot evade the A-darter

A-Darter is an anti-aircraft missile NOT an anti-missile missile....it does not have that hypersonic speed.

A-Darter was tested against a freaking slow Drone of 1,000 km / h speed.

PL-9C speed is about 4,000 km / h super speed !!!!!!

Ya gotta freaking A-Darter with 20 km range. Short-Legged missile grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:35am On Apr 05, 2015
Patchesagain:


ok - then F-7 is 1960's tech grin

#EquationBalanced

F-7NI manufactured brand new in 2010....not an upgrade.

SANDF has ground radars manufactured in 1981 grin grin

I wrecked your '66 years ahead' hallucinations grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:37am On Apr 05, 2015
Patchesagain:


You talking about civilian air traffic controll?

So what?

According to SIPRI, the radars you have were purchased for civilian installation, just like our own. Same grade. Same way we also bring ours in as civilian and use them for NAF air ops, we upgraded our radars recently around year 2010
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 10:41am On Apr 05, 2015
agaugust:


Have you ever seen air to air missile shooting down another air to air missile in this world ?

Show me one example.....Fool grin grin
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As i suspected. He will now claim that this capability is false. Last kicks of a dying horse grin grin grin


Email Diehl Defence in Germany. Tell them that Iris-T IS NOT a self defence missile. Tell them that they are frauds, advertising a capability that DOES NOT exist with 4000 missiles already produced. You, Augustine are calling them frauds.

Then email Denel in Centurion. Tell them A-Darter IS NOT a self defence missile. Tell them that they are frauds, advertising a capability that DOES NOT exist with 300 missiles to be produced. You, Augustine are calling them frauds.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:42am On Apr 05, 2015
saengine:


http://www.deagel.com/Air-to-Air-Missiles/PL-9_a002626001.aspx

"The PL-9C is an improved variant introduced in the 1990s featuring extended range from 5 kilometers to 22 kilometers and increased launch weight (115 kg vs. 123 kg), warhead (10 kg vs. 12 kg) and G maneuvering factor (35g vs. 40g). The PL-9D is a surface-to-air missile variant also introduced in the 1990s. The PL-9D missile system has been ordered by the People's Liberation Army (PLA) ground forces."


Thanks , but I don't care. PL-9C is the air and ground launch with 35 km range. I don't care about PL-9D, it is NOT on the manufacturers website product list, and army recognition did not include it in the website, it says PL-9C has 35 km range, that is all I care about
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 10:43am On Apr 05, 2015
Patchesagain:


This is hilarious.

Same guy who claims we lost 10 000 men and 500 tanks and aircraft?
you lost with over 11,000 troops,CIA mercenaries and with logical and equipment support from American base in Zaire.
When the Angolans swept away your war planes and dominated the skies, the sandf resorted to stealing cattles for survival.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 10:46am On Apr 05, 2015
agaugust:


Have you ever seen air to air missile shooting down another air to air missile in this world ?

Show me one example.....Fool grin grin
.


Example: A-darter
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 10:49am On Apr 05, 2015
agaugust:


Proof that Ford engines were built in South Africa, citation needed
.

Hey liar

When are you going to produce info saying the Ratel engines were built in germany as you claim

You are the great satan of this thread
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 10:50am On Apr 05, 2015
agaugust:


A-Darter is an anti-aircraft missile NOT an anti-missile missile....it does not have that hypersonic speed.

A-Darter was tested against a freaking slow Drone of 1,000 km / h speed.

PL-9C speed is about 4,000 km / h super speed !!!!!!

Ya gotta freaking A-Darter with 20 km range. Short-Legged missile grin grin
.

It clearly says the A-darter can shoot down missiles.

It can also pull 100G turns.

You dont need to be fast to hit a target coming straight at you.

So, we shoot down your missiles and then shoot down your jets.

Simple
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:51am On Apr 05, 2015
agaugust:


Yes Game over for SAAF, your jets and A-Darter get roasted mid-air by NAF from 35 km BVR range away. The A-Darter fuel and explosive will add to the burning of your Gripen and Hawks in the mid-air oven and furnace.




Ground and air launched PL-9C missiles are the same size, same misile, same fuel load, same speed, same shape, same specifications, same name PL-9C......nothing like PL-9D or PL-9E.....nothing like one for air one for land, all are same name PL-9C same product , same fuel, same range, fuel load determines range of an missile. Fact of basic science.

Your 5th generation missile A-Darter will die before launch with your SAAF pilot, both your jet and the Darter missile will be b.lown to pieces by F-7 jet PL-9C missile even before your pilot can fire his short-legged 20 km range freaking A-Darter missile, NAF PL-9C kills from 35 km away and the PL-9C specs have 90% kill-probability.

NAF flies safely outside the freaking 20 km range of your freaking A-Darter missile......bad luck for SAAF !

According to South Africans, weapon range does not matter when it is Nigeria that has the range advantage. Freaking fools, your air force is dead in the air when you face NAF.....you have to learn now that we are your air masters. Go hug electricity transformer, it's an easier way to commit suicide than getting b.lown out of the sky by Nigerian air force BVR missiles !

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"Ground and air launched PL-9C missiles are the same size, same misile, same fuel load, same speed, same shape, same specifications, same name PL-9C"
You are going full re.tard again Augustine, Air to Air and Ground based missiles are definitely not the same, and the PL-9[b]C[/b] is the Ground based missile and the PL-9 is the air to air variant.

The Pl-9 only has a 22km range.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 10:52am On Apr 05, 2015
agaugust:


F-7NI manufactured brand new in 2010....not an upgrade.

SANDF has ground radars manufactured in 1981 grin grin

I wrecked your '66 years ahead' hallucinations grin grin
.

Your plane is a design from the 1960s

Modern versions are upgrades of that design.

But according to you upgrades dont count. Thus the F7 is 1960s tech - confirmed by YOU

And since you have no air surveillance radar - we are 1000 years ahead
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:52am On Apr 05, 2015
saengine:


As i suspected. He will now claim that this capability is false. Last kicks of a dying horse grin grin grin


Email Diehl Defence in Germany. Tell them that Iris-T IS NOT a self defence missile. Tell them that they are frauds, advertising a capability that DOES NOT exist with 4000 missiles already produced. You, Augustine are calling them frauds.

Then email Denel in Centurion. Tell them A-Darter IS NOT a self defence missile. Tell them that they are frauds, advertising a capability that DOES NOT exist with 300 missiles to be produced. You, Augustine are calling them frauds.




Self defence missile means short range missile, every SRAAM is a self defence missile for defending an aircraft against another aircraft.

You confuse that with anti-missile missile.....stop freaking yourself out dude !
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 10:54am On Apr 05, 2015
agaugust:


According to SIPRI, the radars you have were purchased for civilian installation, just like our own. Same grade. Same way we also bring ours in as civilian and use them for NAF air ops, we upgraded our radars recently around year 2010
.

AR3D is defined as military grade radar
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1976/1976%20-%202260.html

What are you going to do with your fixed position civilian grade radar?

How are you going to deploy fixed instillation civilian radar to the front in a war?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:54am On Apr 05, 2015
Patchesagain:


Example: A-darter


Show me where A-Darter shot down another air to air missile in air test grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:54am On Apr 05, 2015
lezz:
you lost with over 11,000 troops. CIA mercenaries and with logical and equipment support from American base in Zaire.
When the Angolans swept away for war planes and dominated the skies, the sandf resorted to stealing cattles for survival.
We lost 1700 odd men in the whole 23 years of the Border war, i provided 3 sources that prove these claims, go read them!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:57am On Apr 05, 2015
jln115:


You are going full re.tard again Augustine, the PL-9C is the Ground based missile and the PL-9 is the air to air variant.


According to SIPRI database, NAF has PL-9C variant for F-7 jet, thanks for confirming we got the 35 km range variant
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:59am On Apr 05, 2015
Patchesagain:


It clearly says the A-darter can shoot down missiles.


Citation Needed !


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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 10:59am On Apr 05, 2015
agaugust:


I don't care about PL-9D, it is NOT on the manufacturers website product list
.

This is what the manufacturer says

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 11:00am On Apr 05, 2015
agaugust:



Self defence missile means short range missile, every SRAAM is a self defence missile for defending an aircraft against another aircraft.

You confuse that with anti-missile missile.....stop freaking yourself out dude !
.

LMAO!!!! Do you want to cry?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:00am On Apr 05, 2015
agaugust:



Self defence missile means short range missile, every SRAAM is a self defence missile for defending an aircraft against another aircraft.

You confuse that with anti-missile missile.....stop freaking yourself out dude !
.

Says who?

You?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:01am On Apr 05, 2015
agaugust:


Show me where A-Darter shot down another air to air missile in air test grin grin
.

Show me where a PLC-9 engaged an air-to-air target at 35km
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:02am On Apr 05, 2015
agaugust:


According to SIPRI database, NAF has PL-9C variant for F-7 jet, thanks for confirming we got the 35 km range variant
.

With a ceiling of 6km grin grin grin grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 11:03am On Apr 05, 2015
EVarn:
Who then is number 4?
It is between France and the UK.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:03am On Apr 05, 2015
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:16am On Apr 05, 2015
agaugust:


According to SIPRI database, NAF has PL-9C variant for F-7 jet, thanks for confirming we got the 35 km range variant
.
What ever dude, the PL-9 air to air missile has a 22km range, and the Pl-9 ground based missile has a 35km range!

"The PL-9C is an improved variant introduced in the 1990s featuring extended range from 5 kilometers to 22 kilometers"
http://www.deagel.com/Air-to-Air-Missiles/PL-9_a002626001.aspx
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 11:17am On Apr 05, 2015
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 11:19am On Apr 05, 2015
jln115:

We lost 1700 odd men in the whole 23 years of the Border war, i provided 3 sources that prove these claims, go read them!
get me an independent source which didn't originate from the south African military writers desperately trying to hide their humiliation.

http://www.urrib2000.narod.ru/Tanques3-e.html

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 11:24am On Apr 05, 2015
agaugust:


Show me where A-Darter shot down another air to air missile in air test grin grin
.

Show us where Iris-T shot down another air to air missile in a test. Germany's Diehl is lying about Iris-T capability?


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