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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:53pm On Apr 05, 2015 |
Patchesagain: Your source says RANGE = 20 km My source says MAXIMUM EFFECTIVE RANGE = 35 km The difference is that my source goes further to show maximum range, yours stopped at just range. I posted more detailed information from a more detailed source, all these details in army recognition are not found on manufacturers website. Your source is too scanty with skinny details, I have posted the full one below : .
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:55pm On Apr 05, 2015 |
agaugust:The problem is,your source is quoting the SAM PL-9 specs and not the Air to Air version. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:58pm On Apr 05, 2015 |
Patchesagain: Show me where A-Darter and IRIS-T engaged an air to air target at 20 km and 25 km respectively . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 1:58pm On Apr 05, 2015 |
agaugust: Move the box to the right. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:12pm On Apr 05, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: Citation needed . India is number 4 world power, their military is many times bigger than those of UK and France. India parades modern world class weapons of latest versions, they have even ordered 5th generation stealth jet fighters Sukhoi T-50 PAK, France and UK, has NO SINGLE stealth jet fighter, also check out the massive number of India's tanks/artillery/guided missiles, they will overwhelm both FRance and UK combined, don't even count their infantry, Indian infantry will completely surround and swallow France and UK infantry forces. India selected 144 units of Sukhoi PAK T-50 ultra-modern 5th Generation Stealth jet fighter Supplier/ Year Year(s) No. recipient (R) No. Weapon Weapon of order/ of delivered/ or licenser (L) ordered designation description licence deliveries produced Comments Russia L: India 140 Su-30MK/Flanker FGA aircraft (2001) 2005-2014 (109) $3-5.4 b deal; Su-30MKI version; delivery probably 2005-2019 144 Sukhoi T-50 PAKFA FGA aircraft (2012) $30-35 b 'FGFA' programme for '5th generation stealth fighter' (incl production in India) http://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/page/trade_register.php .
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:16pm On Apr 05, 2015 |
Patchesagain: NOTHING in your foolish web links to prove your claims, those stories you posted are just web pages talking about -Darter for sale. . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:21pm On Apr 05, 2015 |
saengine: [size=13pt]Yes, it's a lie ! I don't accept lies because a white-man is the one telling the lie, you South Africans don't mind white people deceiving you, we Nigerians DO NOT take shiit from any white man, that's why they fear us and hate us. You Soweto mumus are the horses that white men ride on their way to Shoprite ![]() ![]() Show me in this world where Germany tested IRIS-T against another air to air missile in live fire combat simulation. PL-9C is faster than IRIS-T, so how does a slower missile catch up in race with a faster missile ? .[/size] |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:31pm On Apr 05, 2015 |
jln115: Bwahahahaha ![]() ![]() Your own source actually confirms NO MOKOPA MISSILE FOR SANDF ! "On the other hand, SAAF chief Lieutenant General Carlo Gagiano saw only limited short-term opportunity for Mokopa with the land services. Most armies won't use it optimally, he noted. Land-to-land targeting at 5.5km, as with Ingwe, is already a very long range for target acquisition. You cant's see much further in the dust and glare of the battlefield. With Mokopa you go over-the-horison and then your communications and command-and-control has to be very advanced. Wessels adds the SAAF is interested in the system for Lynx “but want us to succeed somewhere else first”, as it does not have the cash on hand to pay for the integration costs. This is in line with comments made by SAAF chief Lieutenant General Carlo Gagiano on that subject." The whole 10km long range idea of Mokopa is actually a foolish project idea of Soweto mumus, it cannot work on battlefield, I have always said South African's noise about weapon range like artillery and etc in land battle is foolishness that will fail in battlefield realities, now South African air force chief of staff agrees with Augustine ! . SOURCE : Defenceweb news on Mokopa PGM.....your own source....thank you bro ! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 2:42pm On Apr 05, 2015 |
lezz: Proof for anything you said? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 2:45pm On Apr 05, 2015 |
lezz: [size=13pt] andrewza: SADF used foreign mercenaries hired to help South African army in bush war against Angola. Southies want to take all the glory ? No way ! Foreign mercenaries COMMANDED South African troops in Angolan war ! "There was always a sprinkling of whites originating from countries like Great Britain, the old Rhodesia, Portugal and the USA amongst its leadership cadre, although in the latter stages of its existence this shrank to only a few. " http://flecha.co.uk/ .[/size] 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 2:47pm On Apr 05, 2015 |
agaugust: Wow you foolish. Firstly the army does not see much use for it and saaf was talking about getting it for the lynx. No 10km is limited in land use. The rooivalk can fly. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 2:48pm On Apr 05, 2015 |
AugustineAgain: There where not mercs. They where members of SADF. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 2:50pm On Apr 05, 2015 |
andrewza:
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 2:53pm On Apr 05, 2015 |
AugustineAgain: Site has not been updated. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 3:05pm On Apr 05, 2015 |
[size=13pt] andrewza: Yes they were white mercenaries from Zimbabwe, Portugal, and USA. Also, 60% of South African army in battle during Angolan Bush war, were actually black men, mostly Angolan citizens. South Africa was hiring foreign white and black men as mercenaries for the bush war, stop claiming glory by stealing as usual, the 60% glory of SADF belongs to mercenaries most of whom were black Angolans. SADF was giving out it's army uniform freely to foreign mercenaries that saved South Africa from the young hand of an inexperienced Cuban army of teenagers and girls, beautiful young girls ![]() ![]() "3. Contrary to popular believe, most SADF soldiers fighting the Bushwar, were non-white volunteers, with as much as 60% by the closing years of the war." https://sites.google.com/site/sabushwarsite/interesting See Cuban soldier girls mocking South African army of mercenaries ![]() ![]() .[/size]
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 3:06pm On Apr 05, 2015 |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 3:09pm On Apr 05, 2015 |
andrewza: Your very own source says South Africa does ordinary ASSEMBLY not ,manufacture of Ford engines. The assembly plant opened in 2011, Ratel IFV was built in 1980s, surely not with engines assembled in 2011 ![]() ![]() SA imports Ford engines in pieces from USA and assemble the engine parts. Stop freaking yourself out dude ! . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 3:10pm On Apr 05, 2015 |
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 3:14pm On Apr 05, 2015 |
AugustineAgain: I don't think you know what a merc is. No they where Angolans in UNITA. Not Part of the SADF. UITA kept on needing to be rescued. UNITA is not SADF. But yes there where many blacks and coloured solders in the SA or SWA army and police. 32 battlion was the only unit to employ Angolans and it was 1 battalion. All so all members where SADF and got SA citizenship. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 3:15pm On Apr 05, 2015 |
AugustineAgain: The ratel does not use a Ford engine. I was just pointing out we build engines. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 3:16pm On Apr 05, 2015 |
AugustineAgain: Rand Easter show is over a weekend and public holiday. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:18pm On Apr 05, 2015 |
agaugust: My source is from the agent who sells the missiles. Your source also says your missiles have a max ceiling of 6km. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:20pm On Apr 05, 2015 |
agaugust: See what happens when you ask stupid questions? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:22pm On Apr 05, 2015 |
agaugust: PAK-FA was cancelled numbnutz http://defence.pk/threads/russias-pak-fa-next-generation-fighter-project-cancelled.281181/ India's military is obsolete, inefficient and mismatched. They wouldn't survive a week against the UK or France |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:22pm On Apr 05, 2015 |
agaugust: What is self defence? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 3:25pm On Apr 05, 2015 |
agaugust: WORLD BREAKING NEWS!!! AUGUSTINE FROM NAIRALAND HAS PUBLICLY STATED THAT GERMANY'S DIEGHL AND SOUTH AFRICA'S DENEL ARE LIARS. Billions of Euro's spent, 4000 Iris-T missiles sold to customers. Those customers, with all their technical expers have all been taken for a ride. Augustine has revealed the truth....breaking news. Billions of Rands spent on A-Darter. Fake self defence specifications. Revealed by Augustine here on Nairaland. Fake Combra Helmet-Iris T specifications posted by SAAB. Revealed by Augustine of Nairaland. ![]() 3 Defence companies (SAAB, Dieghl, Denel) exposed by Augustine. 1 man. Amazing!! Once those customers of 4000 Iris-T missiles read this thread, I'm sure they'll be extremely pissed off....they've been tricked ![]() But bear in mind...this man just asked PL-9C is faster than IRIS-T, so how does a slower missile catch up in race with a faster missile ? Listen to his basic language...."catch up in a race". Maybe he has down syndrome. Where are they racing to? I wonder. Why must Iris-T or A-Darter try catch any INCOMING missile. I wonder again. Maybe he doesnt know that an incoming missile is heading towards the target aircraft...not the opposite direction. So now need to catch anything. A Darter (with more than twice the agility of PL-9) and Iris-T intercept the incoming missile on a head to head flight path with their vastly superior seeker heads. 3rd generation PL-9 doomed. But we all know Augustine....he's about to invent some new capabilities for PL-9 to miraculously make it "win". He'll probably say something like this.... "PL-9 will detect the incoming defensive missile while still tracking the target aircraft (imagionary PL-9 function). It will then wait for the right time and dodge the defensive missile like a rugby player (another imaginary PL-9function), go around while still tracking the target aircraft. Somehow after travelling a minimum of 20km, and dodging the defensive missile PL-9 will still have enough kinetic energy at full maximum power to continue tracking the target aircraft, track it down, and blow it out the sky" Augustine Engineering 101. All from the comfort of his couch. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:26pm On Apr 05, 2015 |
agaugust: I see that the official manufacturers specs have caused augubug to suffer a massive autistic breakdown The missiles are flying towards each other - no "catching" is needed.
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:28pm On Apr 05, 2015 |
agaugust: Hey said other militaries cannot use it because you need advanced equipment And he specifically said he wants to see it on the lynx. Do you require another english lesson? 2015 photographs confirm it is in use with the SAAF |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 3:28pm On Apr 05, 2015 |
EVarn:India ahead of Russia and France? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:29pm On Apr 05, 2015 |
AugustineAgain: Yes, in 32 Battalion. A unit developed for clandestine and psuedo operations. Do you require a lesson in military tactics? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:33pm On Apr 05, 2015 |
AugustineAgain: [size=20pt]See how 2015 photographic proof of Mokopa in SAAF service makes Nij'as sweat bullets!![/size]
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