agaugust:


Citation needed .

India is number 4 world power, their military is many times bigger than those of UK and France.

India parades modern world class weapons of latest versions, they have even ordered 5th generation stealth jet fighters Sukhoi T-50 PAK,

France and UK, has NO SINGLE stealth jet fighter, also check out the massive number of India's tanks/artillery/guided missiles, they will overwhelm both FRance and UK combined, don't even count their infantry, Indian infantry will completely surround and swallow France and UK infantry forces.

India selected 144 units of Sukhoi PAK T-50 ultra-modern 5th Generation Stealth jet fighter

Supplier/ Year Year(s) No.
recipient (R) No. Weapon Weapon of order/ of delivered/
or licenser (L) ordered designation description licence deliveries produced Comments


Russia
L: India 140 Su-30MK/Flanker FGA aircraft (2001) 2005-2014 (109) $3-5.4 b deal; Su-30MKI version; delivery probably 2005-2019

144 Sukhoi T-50 PAKFA FGA aircraft (2012) $30-35 b 'FGFA' programme for '5th generation stealth fighter' (incl production in India)

http://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/page/trade_register.php
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AugustineAgain:
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Yes they were white mercenaries from Zimbabwe, Portugal, and USA.

Also, 60% of South African army in battle during Angolan Bush war, were actually black men, mostly Angolan citizens.

South Africa was hiring foreign white and black men as mercenaries for the bush war, stop claiming glory by stealing as usual, the 60% glory of SADF belongs to mercenaries most of whom were black Angolans. SADF was giving out it's army uniform freely to foreign mercenaries that saved South Africa from the young hand of an inexperienced Cuban army of teenagers and girls, beautiful young girls

"3. Contrary to popular believe, most SADF soldiers fighting the Bushwar, were non-white volunteers, with as much as 60% by the closing years of the war."

https://sites.google.com/site/sabushwarsite/interesting

See Cuban soldier girls mocking South African army of mercenaries
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AugustineAgain:


....because there is no new information to update
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Patchesagain:


I see that the official manufacturers specs have caused augubug to suffer a massive autistic breakdown

The missiles are flying towards each other - no "catching" is needed.

andrewza:


The ratel does not use a Ford engine. I was just pointing out we build engines.

andrewza:


I don't think you know what a merc is.

No they where Angolans in UNITA. Not Part of the SADF.

UITA kept on needing to be rescued.


UNITA is not SADF. But yes there where many blacks and coloured solders in the SA or SWA army and police. 32 battlion was the only unit to employ Angolans and it was 1 battalion. All so all members where SADF and got SA citizenship.

Patchesagain:


PAK-FA was cancelled numbnutz
http://defence.pk/threads/russias-pak-fa-next-generation-fighter-project-cancelled.281181/

India's military is obsolete, inefficient and mismatched.

They wouldn't survive a week against the UK or France

agaugust:


[size=13pt]Yes, it's a lie ! I don't accept lies because a white-man is the one telling the lie, you South Africans don't mind white people deceiving you, we Nigerians DO NOT take shiit from any white man, that's why they fear us and hate us.

You Soweto mumus are the horses that white men ride on their way to Shoprite

Show me in this world where Germany tested IRIS-T against another air to air missile in live fire combat simulation.

PL-9C is faster than IRIS-T, so how does a slower missile catch up in race with a faster missile ?

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Patchesagain:


What is self defence?

saengine:


WORLD BREAKING NEWS!!! AUGUSTINE FROM NAIRALAND HAS PUBLICLY STATED THAT GERMANY'S DIEGHL AND SOUTH AFRICA'S DENEL ARE LIARS.

Billions of Euro's spent, 4000 Iris-T missiles sold to customers. Those customers, with all their technical expers have all been taken for a ride. Augustine has revealed the truth....breaking news.

Billions of Rands spent on A-Darter. Fake self defence specifications. Revealed by Augustine here on Nairaland.

Fake Combra Helmet-Iris T specifications posted by SAAB. Revealed by Augustine of Nairaland.



3 Defence companies (SAAB, Dieghl, Denel) exposed by Augustine. 1 man. Amazing!! Once those customers of 4000 Iris-T missiles read this thread, I'm sure they'll be extremely pissed off....they've been tricked .


But bear in mind...this man just asked

PL-9C is faster than IRIS-T, so how does a slower missile catch up in race with a faster missile ?

Listen to his basic language...."catch up in a race". Maybe he has down syndrome. Where are they racing to? I wonder. Why must Iris-T or A-Darter try catch any INCOMING missile. I wonder again.

Maybe he doesnt know that an incoming missile is heading towards the target aircraft...not the opposite direction. So now need to catch anything.

A Darter (with more than twice the agility of PL-9) and Iris-T intercept the incoming missile on a head to head flight path with their vastly superior seeker heads. 3rd generation PL-9 doomed.


But we all know Augustine....he's about to invent some new capabilities for PL-9 to miraculously make it "win". He'll probably say something like this....

"PL-9 will detect the incoming defensive missile while still tracking the target aircraft (imagionary PL-9 function). It will then wait for the right time and dodge the defensive missile like a rugby player (another imaginary PL-9function), go around while still tracking the target aircraft. Somehow after travelling a minimum of 20km, and dodging the defensive missile PL-9 will still have enough kinetic energy at full maximum power to continue tracking the target aircraft, track it down, and blow it out the sky"

Augustine Engineering 101. All from the comfort of his couch.

Patchesagain:


[size=16pt]See how 2015 photographic proof of Mokopa in SAAF service makes Nij'as sweat bullets!![/size]

Patchesagain:


Where does it say they were Angolan?

Numerous black South Africans (mainly zulu) in 121 Battalion and Namibians (mainly Ovambo) in 101 Battalion as well as Coloreds in South A
African Cape Corps (3 battalions of men) served in SADF ranks.

Stop telling lies you shamless satan !!

How dare you on this holy day come and spew filth before us!!

Away with you demon !

agaugust:


Bwahahahaha

Your own source actually confirms NO MOKOPA MISSILE FOR SANDF !


"On the other hand, SAAF chief Lieutenant General Carlo Gagiano saw only limited short-term opportunity for Mokopa with the land services. Most armies won't use it optimally, he noted. Land-to-land targeting at 5.5km, as with Ingwe, is already a very long range for target acquisition. You cant's see much further in the dust and glare of the battlefield. With Mokopa you go over-the-horison and then your communications and command-and-control has to be very advanced.

Wessels adds the SAAF is interested in the system for Lynx “but want us to succeed somewhere else first”, as it does not have the cash on hand to pay for the integration costs. This is in line with comments made by SAAF chief Lieutenant General Carlo Gagiano on that subject."


The whole 10km long range idea of Mokopa is actually a foolish project idea of Soweto mumus, it cannot work on battlefield, I have always said South African's noise about weapon range like artillery and etc in land battle is foolishness that will fail in battlefield realities, now South African air force chief of staff agrees with Augustine !
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SOURCE : Defenceweb news on Mokopa PGM.....your own source....thank you bro !

AugustineAgain:


....which you actually do not build, you only import engine in pieces and assemble them with glue
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AugustineAgain:


You don't know what a mercenary means.

The source says clearly those foreigners were 60% of the SADF army, not UNITA.

You also don't know what UNITA means or what SADF means.


"3. Contrary to popular believe, most SADF soldiers fighting the Bushwar, were non-white volunteers, with as much as 60% by the closing years of the war."

https://sites.google.com/site/sabushwarsite/interesting
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Patchesagain:


More sweat and tears!! Latest 2015 photographic evidence shocks nigerians!!

AugustineAgain:


Military technical language beyond your level.

Every modern SRAAM is for self defence of the jet fighter. Short range, close combat. I am not a copy paste military person, I work in defence industry. We have different level of technical soundness. You dwell only on internet. BVRAAM is offensive. SRAAM is defensive
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AugustineAgain:


If at all the Gripen ever gets that chance. The 4,000 km/h speed of the PL-9C is too fast, it needs about 10 seconds to hit target.

The Gripen pilots needs time to detect PL-9C launch by scan, time to track, time to lock on a tiny missile the size of a snake with very small RCS, he needs much more than the 10 seconds, the PL-9C has already killed Gripen.

Reason why the kill probability of the PL-9C is 90% kill, when it's fired on a target, that target is 90% dead.

The PL-9C will swing to a different angle, in a loop, it out-maneuvers a false target, by the time the PL-9C is back in direction of the Gripen, the A-Darter is following it from behind, by the time the PL-9C gets to the Gripen, the two missiles will hit same Gripen target.

The SAAF Gripen pilot actually sh.ot himself down

No where in war history has any air to air missile intercepted another air to air missile, if it is possible, somebody would have done it, and pilots in dog fight will never get sh.ot down
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AugustineAgain:


If at all the Gripen ever gets that chance. The 4,000 km/h speed of the PL-9C is too fast, it needs about 10 seconds to hit target.

The Gripen pilots needs :

1. Time to detect PL-9C launch by scan

2. Time to track PL-9C

3. Time to lock on a tiny PL-9C missile the size of a snake with very small RCS,

4. Time to command launch his IRIS-T or A-Darter missile

5. Time to release the A-Darter off pylon before booster rocket ignition motions his missile

6. Time to fly the A-Darter before it achieves safe distance to arm for combat, or else at close range the explosion from two clashing missiles will blast his Gripen with shrapnel and splinters or fire/flame particles.....he will end up as a suicide victim

He needs too much time more than the 10 seconds, the PL-9C has already killed Gripen.

Reason why the kill probability of the PL-9C is 90% kill, when it's fired on a target, that target is 90% dead.

The PL-9C will swing to a different angle, in a loop, it out-maneuvers a false target, by the time the PL-9C is back in direction of the Gripen, the A-Darter is following it from behind, by the time the PL-9C gets to the Gripen, the two missiles will hit same Gripen target.

The SAAF Gripen pilot actually sh.ot himself down

No where in war history has any air to air missile intercepted another air to air missile, if it is possible, somebody would have done it, and pilots in dog fight will never get sh.ot down
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AugustineAgain:


You don't know what a mercenary means.

The source says clearly those foreigners were 60% of the SADF army, not UNITA.

You also don't know what UNITA means or what SADF means.


"3. Contrary to popular believe, most SADF soldiers fighting the Bushwar, were non-white volunteers, with as much as 60% by the closing years of the war."

https://sites.google.com/site/sabushwarsite/interesting
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AugustineAgain:


Military technical language beyond your level.

Every modern SRAAM is for self defence of the jet fighter. Short range, close combat. I am not a copy paste military person, I work in defence industry. We have different level of technical soundness. You dwell only on internet. BVRAAM is offensive. SRAAM is defensive
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AugustineAgain:



[size=16pt]Long story. No proof

Show me where Germany or South Africa tested IRIS-T or A-Darta against a tiny snake sized target of an incoming air to air missile.

Clue : A-Darter was only tested against a big target drone the size of an aircraft and that slow drone has only maximum of 1,000 km/h speed.....PL-9C speed is 4,000 km/h !!!!

I am not an internet copy paste military analyst, I am trained on my job to challenge any claim from Germany to Japan, I fear no white-man.....I am not a Soweto based zombie remote controlled stooge like you
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AugustineAgain:


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South African Army in Angolan Bush War Battlefield :

"The battalion primarily consisted of black Angolan soldiers and non-commissioned officers (NCOs) led by whites of the “old” RSA Empire officers and NCOs, although there was also a number of officers from countries, especially in its early stages, such as: the United Kingdom, Rhodesia, Portugal, United States, and Italy."

http://www.volkstaat.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=510:32nd-battalion-rsa-south-africa&catid=108:rsa-southern-african-empire&Itemid=173

Now who is the demon here telling all the lies on Easter day ? You or me ?

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Henry120:


You don't have them in service. Until then, keep day dreaming.

saengine:


Lmao!! He did exactly what i said he would do....he developed a whole new capability for PL-9 missile . This is one of your most pathetic posts...which says a lot. Lets pretend you have 35km range missiles...

1. You just pulled the 10 second incoming missile time detection completely out of your a.ss. You just blatently made something up....infront of everyone. How embarrassing . What must the Gripen pilot do to detect a missile? Boil water, slaughter a goat while looking out the window with binoculors? System is completely automatic, high end electronic processors. Argument demolished.

2. Minimum distance you can fire at us is 20km. At "4000km/h" it takes 18 seconds to travel that distance. Again showing you are making sh*t up with "10 seconds". You're telling us in 2015 with it takes a 4th generation fighter more than 18 seconds to detect threats? Making sh*t up. Argument demolished.

3. PL-9 will not out maneuver A-Darter. PL-9 can pull 40g turns. A-Darter can pull 100g turns. More than twice as agile. It is doomed. PL-9 has no ability to dodge missiles while still tracking target, you made that up. Ignoring false targets doesnt mean you dodge them...it means you ignore them (e.g flares). PL-9 3rd generation processor wont even know what's going on. Argument demolished.


4. You say there are no real life war examples of such self defence capabilities on missiles. Why dont you rather tell us which real air to air dogfights have there been in the past few years, where one or both of the jets was carrying the lastest 5th generation missiles and needed to defend itself? Tell us...which dogfight? 5th gen missiles are relatively new, coming online. How many air forces have them? Argument demolished.

AugustineAgain:
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Patchesagain:


Whats this then?

Henry120:


No different from this.

You still don't have them in service.