lezz: lol It's. A 100% more honest, believable and pious than yours. And your government then had a motive for lying; the government was near pariah state with opposition and civil disturbances. The war was actually to encourage the apathied regime. Any real report of the TRUE situation on the battle ground would have been a disaster for the government.
Uhm.....did you read your excerpts? They are some of the most biased and poorly written pieces of sh.t ive ever read, the person who wrote these excerpts didnt even try to make them even remotely believable.
lezz: lol I know you couldn't take it, you are too soft and weak to face truth.
I have plenty of those excerpts left for you. But I'm going to allow you room for a little recovery then I'll come hit you with some again.
Oh......and how on earth will a Nigerian envy a south African?
"Oh......and how on earth will a Nigerian envy a south African?" Healthcare Education Infrastructure Entertainment DSTV Beaches Wildlife Hotels Technology Sport ect ect ect
Uhm.....did you read your excerpts? They are some of the most biased and poorly written pieces of sh.t ive ever read, the person who wrote these excerpts didnt even try to make them even remotely believable.
The account is the most authentic ,detailed , battle by battle account of the war yet. It is fair to all sides and even corrected some accounts that was erronously reported in favour of the Angolan troops.
You're just too short and weak to carry the weight of truth.
"Oh......and how on earth will a Nigerian envy a south African?" Healthcare Education Infrastructure Entertainment DSTV Beaches Wildlife Hotels Technology Sport ect ect ect
Basically every thing really!
Nice try but I refuse to have you change this topic. Back to Cuba smoking your azz.
Uhm.....did you read your excerpts? They are some of the most biased and poorly written pieces of sh.t ive ever read, the person who wrote these excerpts didnt even try to make them even remotely believable.
TAKE MORE:
[b]27 June Third ambush It was the last main action of the war, and the last armoured vehicles battle of the War. A mixed group of Angolans and Cubans formed by 30 men (part of the Cuban 5° Battallion of special forces, with the same Cuban source that claimed that actually Namibians of the SWAPO joined them) with 3 armoured vehicles BMP-1 attacked the 61 Mechanized Battalion of the enemy, formed by 70 men and 8 Ratel vehicles. The South African neither understood what attacked them. The BMP-1 fired together the RPG-7 rockets all together, and 4 Ratel were destroyed. The enemy escaped, suffering 20 killed and leaving behind an intact Ratel that was captured, (Another Cuban source reduce the number of Ratel with 3 destroyed and one captired) they reported to be attacked by 600 fighters, with 35 tanks, and claimed to have killed half of the attacking force, admitting 12 dead. That was the most ridicule attempt of the enemy propaganda to hide a failure. The Angolans and Cubans claimed to be killed were 10 times the actual number of fighters involved in the battle and no tanks took part in the action. A second enemy columns of reinforcement was then bombed and destroyed by MiG-23[/b]
lezz: The account is the most authentic ,detailed , battle by battle account of the war yet. It was fair to all sides and even corrected some accounts that was erronously reported in favour of the Angolan troops.
You're just too short and weak to carry the weight of truth.
"The account is the most authentic ,detailed , battle by battle account of the war yet.
I must say i expected you would say that, your lack of comprehension skills would make it nearly impossible for you to identify any discrepancies in your excerpts.
[b]27 June Third ambush It was the last main action of the war, and the last armoured vehicles battle of the War. A mixed group of Angolans and Cubans formed by 30 men (part of the Cuban 5° Battallion of special forces, with the same Cuban source that claimed that actually Namibians of the SWAPO joined them) with 3 armoured vehicles BMP-1 attacked the 61 Mechanized Battalion of the enemy, formed by 70 men and 8 Ratel vehicles. The South African neither understood what attacked them. The BMP-1 fired together the RPG-7 rockets all together, and 4 Ratel were destroyed. The enemy escaped, suffering 20 killed and leaving behind an intact Ratel that was captured, (Another Cuban source reduce the number of Ratel with 3 destroyed and one captired) they reported to be attacked by 600 fighters, with 35 tanks, and claimed to have killed half of the attacking force, admitting 12 dead. That was the most ridicule attempt of the enemy propaganda to hide a failure. The Angolans and Cubans claimed to be killed were 10 times the actual number of fighters involved in the battle and no tanks took part in the action. A second enemy columns of reinforcement was then bombed and destroyed by MiG-23[/b]
Please keep them coming, it makes for a very entertaining read!
Simply because that was the original argument in my comment, South Africa needs to send a white-man South African citizen to challenge a black Nigerian. Your balcks and coloureds do not have the brains to challenge a Nigerian in intellectual debate....
[b]27 June Third ambush It was the last main action of the war, and the last armoured vehicles battle of the War. A mixed group of Angolans and Cubans formed by 30 men (part of the Cuban 5° Battallion of special forces, with the same Cuban source that claimed that actually Namibians of the SWAPO joined them) with 3 armoured vehicles BMP-1 attacked the 61 Mechanized Battalion of the enemy, formed by 70 men and 8 Ratel vehicles. The South African neither understood what attacked them. The BMP-1 fired together the RPG-7 rockets all together, and 4 Ratel were destroyed. The enemy escaped, suffering 20 killed and leaving behind an intact Ratel that was captured, (Another Cuban source reduce the number of Ratel with 3 destroyed and one captired) they reported to be attacked by 600 fighters, with 35 tanks, and claimed to have killed half of the attacking force, admitting 12 dead. That was the most ridicule attempt of the enemy propaganda to hide a failure. The Angolans and Cubans claimed to be killed were 10 times the actual number of fighters involved in the battle and no tanks took part in the action. A second enemy columns of reinforcement was then bombed and destroyed by MiG-23[/b]
DUDE all you excerpts are from a forum!!! And the most hilarious thing is, you claim that the accounts are the most authentic ,detailed , battle by battle accounts of the war yet.
Simply because that was the original argument in my comment, South Africa needs to send a white-man to challenge a Nigeria. Your balcks and coloureds do not have the brains to challenge a Nigerian in intellectual debate....
-why would the Gripen pilot fly straight towards an incoming missile for a full 9 seconds after launch detection? He's busy chatting on whatsapp, and got distracted? He would make a sharp bank away from the threat. Massive Fail
- A Darter can be fired at threats directly behind Gripen. Im sure you didnt know that. Pilot has banked away from missile threat and fired A-Darter in defence. Your PL-9 cannot dodge defensive missiles. You cannot just make something up and pretend its true. Your PL-9 3rd generation IR seeker head is designed to trace the heat signature of the target aircraft, and AT BEST IGNORE other infrared heat signature it believes are decoys. Ignore, not dodge. At the very best your missile will pick up incoming A-Darter heat signature, register it as a decoy, and keep flying towards its original lock on heat signature...the Gripen. It has no ability to process the fact the A-Darter is intent on destroying it, or even dodging it at that. Your second massive fail.
- Listen to this piece of sh*t made up comment. This is a very special piece of sh*t you made up.
The missiles will explode "about 5 seconds" away from Gripen. With the fire ball/explosion blowing up the Gripen or killing the pilot.
I know you were educated under a tree, so let me make it very basic. You say the 2 missiles will collide and explode "5 seconds away" from Gripen.
Your basic lesson for the night.
*Assume Gripen is stationary/not moving/stuck in the air. Stationary target 20km away from F-7 jet.
*From 20km away you fire a PL-9 missile. It flies straight towards the stationary Gripen.
*STATIONARY Gripen fires an A-Darter in self defense. According to you they collide and explode with just 5 seconds of the PL-9's flight time left. Meaning the PL-9 flew for 13 seconds (of the 18 seconds needed to hit the stationary Gripen)
*Now. Remember I keep saying this is a stationary Gripen. It hasnt even tried to bank away and evade the PL-9 missile.. Basic question....how much further did your PL-9 missile need to travel in order to hit the Gripen?
Okay...you say it travels at 4000km/h = 1111m/s In the first 13 seconds of un-interupted flight, your missile travelled 1111m/s × 13 = 14 443 meters (14.4km)
Meaning...PL-9 missile was 5.6km away from hitting Gripen before A-Darter blew it up. But remember YOU said this same explosion will blow up/damage Gripen in its fireball and shrapnel....im starting to laugh already
11.8kg PL-9 WARHEAD + A-DARTER WARHEAD WILL COMBINE TO FORM A SPHERICAL EXPLOSION OF DIAMETER 11.2 kilometers!!!!
HAHAHAHA!!
WHAT A RE.TARD . NUCLEAR TIPPED AIR-AIR MISSILES . MILITARY RESEARCHER? WHEW
You see how its obvious to everyone you just make sh*t up without thinking? DEMOLISHED
You see the red letter part of your post above ? A military expert will ALWAYS be one step ahead of you
PL-9C and A-Darter explode 5.6 km ahead of Gripen, but supersonic speed Gripen flies fast at 2,000 km/h into the explosion danger head !
1. Two missiles, one main big fire ball. Centre of explosion fireball....it does not vanish in few seconds....the burning continues.
2. High explosive warheads produce shrapnel, splinters, broken pieces of flame that is forced to scatter at high speed in 360 degrees direction.
3. Fire balls at centre of explosion does not vanish away in 1 second, it goes continues combustion for many seconds. Still deadly....see your own photo above. Missiles contain both high explosive warheads and fuel....mix all together !
4. The Gripen is actually flying at fast supersonic speed towards the exploded missiles, it will run into the fire ball just 4 seconds ahead !
5. Also, second danger is that the Gripen is flying at supersonic speed towards the blown up missiles, and the splinters/shrapnel/burning hot flying projectiles from the explosion is also flying at high speed towards the Gripen, in 2 seconds the Gripen will enter the flying shrapnel/debris radius and get a blast hit on the Gripen. Many pilots have died in real life war from high speed debris breaking through cockpit canopy glass to strike the pilot, or engine gets hit like a bird strike, or ordnance gets hit and explodes, or fuel tank gets hit and explodes.
Gripen has flown into death circle ! EXPLOSION OR BLAST RADIUS is the name ! See my photo below.
Try drive a car at 200 km/h speed and try escape an exploding petrol container 2 seconds position ahead of you !
A 2,000 km/h speed jet will not escape an explosion of missiles just 4 seconds ahead of the jet, it will fly into the burning death trap.
I am talking from pilots' real life combat experience, not internet copy and paste via google search.
Military researcher will ALWAYS be one step ahead of you !
Good morning my student, you owe me school fees, pay now or send your 18 year old junior sister to 'pay' me on your behalf
You see the red letter part of your post above ? A military expert will ALWAYS be one step ahead of you
PL-9C and A-Darter explode 5.6 km ahead of Gripen, but supersonic speed Gripen flies fast at 2,000 km/h into the explosion danger head !
1. Two missiles, one main big fire ball. Centre of explosion fireball....it does not vanish in few seconds....the burning continues.
2. High explosive warheads produce shrapnel, splinters, broken pieces of flame that is forced to scatter at high speed in 360 degrees direction.
3. Fire balls at centre of explosion does not vanish away in 1 second, it goes continues combustion for many seconds. Still deadly....see your own photo above. Missiles contain both high explosive warheads and fuel....mix all together !
4. The Gripen is actually flying at fast supersonic speed towards the exploded missiles, it will run into the fire ball just 4 seconds ahead !
5. Also, second danger is that the Gripen is flying at supersonic speed towards the blown up missiles, and the splinters/shrapnel/burning hot debris from the explosion is also flying at high speed towards the Gripen, in 2 seconds the Gripen will enter the flying shrapnel/debris radius and get a blast hit on the Gripen. Many pilots have died in real life war from high speed debris breaking through cockpit canopy glass to strike the pilot, or engine gets hit like a bird strike, or ordnance gets hit and explodes, or fuel tank gets hit and explodes.
Gripen has flown into death circle !
Try drive a car at 200 km/h speed and try escape an exploding petrol container 2 seconds position ahead of you !
A 2,000 km/h speed jet will not escape an explosion of missiles just 4 seconds ahead of the jet, it will fly into the burning death trap.
I am talking from pilots' real life combat experience, not internet copy and paste via google search.
Military researcher will ALWAYS be one step ahead of you !
Good morning my student, you owe me school fees, pay now or send your 18 year old junior sister to 'pay' me on your behalf
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Dude do you have any idea how slow 2 seconds actually is? I can personally tell you that i have a reaction time of about 200-210 milliseconds. And a Fighter Pilot would most likely have a reaction time of even less. 2 seconds is basically an eternity,thus and the fighter pilot will avoid the blast with ease.
I have lectured you so much, but your moronic head still thinks radar is like FLIR foward looking infra red.
Radar is not light beams, it is waves that blow out and expand from emission source.
No matter how you turn aside, the F-7 is facing the Gripen, your sideways turn still enters the divergent waves coverage of the F-7 Grifo radar and at 50 km away the F-7 detects the Gripen.
I have shown you scientific sources of the known radar detection in combat, front hemisphere, lower hemisphere, upper hemisphere, rear hemisphere. The ranges are specified, Dis you see anything like range for side hemisphere ? Fool !
"The forward-facing NIIP N011M Bars (Panther) is a powerful integrated passive electronically scanned array radar. The N011M can function in air-to-air and air-to-land/sea mode simultaneously while being tied into a high-precision laser-inertial or GPS navigation system. It is equipped with a modern digital weapons control system as well as anti-jamming features. N011M has a 400 km search range and a maximum 200 km tracking range, and 60 km in the rear hemisphere.The radar can detect ground targets such as tanks at 40–50 km. The Bars radar will be replaced by Zhuk-AESA in all Su-30MKI aircraft."
No matter how you turn aside, the F-7 is facing the Gripen, your sideways turn still enters the divergent waves coverage of the F-7 Grifo radar and at 50 km away the F-7 detects the Gripen.
Stop adding the non-existent side hemisphere as radar has become an FLIR.
You live in a psycho world of imaginary day dreams different from how air combat and jets operate
Abeg am done with this foolish argument.
I sh.ot down your Gripen, you were b.uried, you want to open coffin and come out, abeg go back to your g.rave, stop wasting my time .
Augustus.
You are posting stats for highly powerfull radar.
The radar cone on your 50km Gilfio is tiny.
Gripen can easily evade it and turn your flanks.
The only one who is a psycho here is the one who says that a Second Generation fighter with Second Generation missiles stands a chance against a Fourth Generation fighter with Third Generation missiles.
You are actually re-emphasising the Agaugust's argument and valid point made! Show us the the number of black South African intellectual Nobel winners (I'm not talking of the Peace Prize category).
You see the red letter part of your post above ? A military expert will ALWAYS be one step ahead of you
PL-9C and A-Darter explode 5.6 km ahead of Gripen, but supersonic speed Gripen flies fast at 2,000 km/h into the explosion danger head !
1. Two missiles, one main big fire ball. Centre of explosion fireball....it does not vanish in few seconds....the burning continues.
2. High explosive warheads produce shrapnel, splinters, broken pieces of flame that is forced to scatter at high speed in 360 degrees direction.
3. Fire balls at centre of explosion does not vanish away in 1 second, it goes continues combustion for many seconds. Still deadly....see your own photo above. Missiles contain both high explosive warheads and fuel....mix all together !
4. The Gripen is actually flying at fast supersonic speed towards the exploded missiles, it will run into the fire ball just 4 seconds ahead !
5. Also, second danger is that the Gripen is flying at supersonic speed towards the blown up missiles, and the splinters/shrapnel/burning hot flying projectiles from the explosion is also flying at high speed towards the Gripen, in 2 seconds the Gripen will enter the flying shrapnel/debris radius and get a blast hit on the Gripen. Many pilots have died in real life war from high speed debris breaking through cockpit canopy glass to strike the pilot, or engine gets hit like a bird strike, or ordnance gets hit and explodes, or fuel tank gets hit and explodes.
Gripen has flown into death circle ! EXPLOSION OR BLAST RADIUS is the name ! See my photo below.
Try drive a car at 200 km/h speed and try escape an exploding petrol container 2 seconds position ahead of you !
A 2,000 km/h speed jet will not escape an explosion of missiles just 4 seconds ahead of the jet, it will fly into the burning death trap.
I am talking from pilots' real life combat experience, not internet copy and paste via google search.
Military researcher will ALWAYS be one step ahead of you !
Good morning my student, you owe me school fees, pay now or send your 18 year old junior sister to 'pay' me on your behalf
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Ok - this is a very long post.
It shall defeat it 6 with words:
The Gripen turns away from the explosion.
You sad sad little boy, you know you arent a military researcher, we know you arent as well. Yet you continue to claim you are one. Its, well, its just sad.
I DONT KNOW WHY MY FELLOW SOUTH AFRICANS KEEP ON WASTING THEIR PRECIOUS TIME AND ENERGY TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO THE LUNATIC IN THE NAME OF AGAUGUST THAT GRIPEN IS WELL FITTED WITH SOPHISTICATED AVIONICS AND WEAPON TECHNOLOGY THAT IS FAR SUPERIOR THAN THAT OF F7-NI. THE FLYING COFFIN STAND NO CHANCE TO DEFEAT GRIPEN FIGHTER
KIA PICANTO STAND NO CHANCE TO DEFEAT THE LATEST MODEL OF BMW OR MERCEDES ON THE ROAD.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS F7 CANNOT DEFEAT GRIPEN IN A DOG FIGHT
You see the red letter part of your post above ? A military expert will ALWAYS be one step ahead of you
PL-9C and A-Darter explode 5.6 km ahead of Gripen, but supersonic speed Gripen flies fast at 2,000 km/h into the explosion danger head !
1. Two missiles, one main big fire ball. Centre of explosion fireball....it does not vanish in few seconds....the burning continues.
2. High explosive warheads produce shrapnel, splinters, broken pieces of flame that is forced to scatter at high speed in 360 degrees direction.
3. Fire balls at centre of explosion does not vanish away in 1 second, it goes continues combustion for many seconds. Still deadly....see your own photo above. Missiles contain both high explosive warheads and fuel....mix all together !
4. The Gripen is actually flying at fast supersonic speed towards the exploded missiles, it will run into the fire ball just 4 seconds ahead !
5. Also, second danger is that the Gripen is flying at supersonic speed towards the blown up missiles, and the splinters/shrapnel/burning hot flying projectiles from the explosion is also flying at high speed towards the Gripen, in 2 seconds the Gripen will enter the flying shrapnel/debris radius and get a blast hit on the Gripen. Many pilots have died in real life war from high speed debris breaking through cockpit canopy glass to strike the pilot, or engine gets hit like a bird strike, or ordnance gets hit and explodes, or fuel tank gets hit and explodes.
Gripen has flown into death circle ! EXPLOSION OR BLAST RADIUS is the name ! See my photo below.
Try drive a car at 200 km/h speed and try escape an exploding petrol container 2 seconds position ahead of you !
A 2,000 km/h speed jet will not escape an explosion of missiles just 4 seconds ahead of the jet, it will fly into the burning death trap.
I am talking from pilots' real life combat experience, not internet copy and paste via google search.
Military researcher will ALWAYS be one step ahead of you !
Good morning my student, you owe me school fees, pay now or send your 18 year old junior sister to 'pay' me on your behalf
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HAHAHA!!! such desperation.
You clearly haven't even noticed the point....fake military researcher!!!
How can two air to air missiles cause an explosion of blast diameter 11.2 KILOMETERS
You cant even comprehent that its not possible. Are they nuclear tipped warheads? The photo i used is of a NUCLEAR EXPLOSION FO.OL
Worst case scenario....Gripen is stationary and not moving. Meaning the explosion will need 11.2 kilometer blast diameter to damage Gripen = NOT POSSIBLE .
Real world scenario....Gripen will bank directly away from incomining PL-9, fire A-Darter in self defence. Meaning the blast needed to destroy Gripen is even more than 11.2 kilometers diameter = NOT POSSIBLE
Gripen pilot will not keep flying straight towards an incoming missile. You made that sh*t up....fail!!! He will evade threat, and fire A-Darter missile while he is evading (over the shoulder firing).
You are not a military researcher....you are a security guard. Fraud!!!
11.89 kg warhead of PL-9 plus A-Darter warhead will cause an explosion of blast diameter 11km? Hahaha....how embarrassing
I never gave a figure of CIA mercenaries that came to help you but they were there on your behalf and even dropping air supplies from American base in Zaire.
By proof I mean can your source proof it. I can put down a source that says the US military is invading Texas. There are lots of wak jobs out there.
Why isnt #GarissaAttack in kenya generating worldwide mass outrage like the Nigerian #ChibokGirlsAbduction in 2014 or the Paris mall and magazine press attacks #CharlieHebdo?,is it that africans and the world at large dont value the lives of africans?,or are people just tired and exasperated about new islamic terrorist attacks?. as for me,i say: NO TO ISLAMIC TERROR!!!!,BAN HIJABS!,BAN MASQUERADE CLOAKS!,BAN LONG BUSHY BEARDS!,LET US ALL LIVE LIKE 21TH CENTURY CIVILIZED FOLKS!,SAY NO TO A 1800 YEARS OLD WAY OF LIFE!,SAY NO TO BRUTALITY AND ANIMALISTIC INSTINCT!,ENOUGH OF ARABS DEPOPULATING THE AFRICAN CONTINENT BY WAGING JIHAD AND ETHNIC ISLAM!,SAY NO TO VIOLENCE!!!!!!
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DUDE all you excerpts are from a forum!!! And the most hilarious thing is, you claim that the accounts are the most authentic ,detailed , battle by battle accounts of the war yet.
you really have to believe they are from a forum because it is pure horror for you. It is the most vividly written account of the war, my boy.
And this account ,unlike others which stipulated that your shamed and humiliated military attempt to rewrite that war history with help from American Chester Crocker, went further to give us exact figures of dead, injured soldiers, and also number of tanks, war planes and other vehicle destroyed, seized and repaired.
Simply because that was the original argument in my comment, South Africa needs to send a white-man South African citizen to challenge a black Nigerian. Your balcks and coloureds do not have the brains to challenge a Nigerian in intellectual debate....
