Ihuomadinihu:

As for the dna stuff,igbo males irrespective of whatever state they come from have Y chromozones and E Mtdna group which is very related to Efik,Ibibio,Cameron and Gabon. Actually,as funny as it sounds,Yorubas are the ones with a little foreign Dna. So the Nri, Gad stuff is irrelevant amongst igbos.

bigfrancis21:


I'm well conversant with the YDNA make up of Yorubas, with over 90% pointing to sub-saharan african. It is actually the Igbos with about 80% pointing to subsaharan african origin, which leaves the remainder to some possible 'outside' origin. Now the MtDna test results (maternal origin) of the Igbo indicates they share same maternal dna with the Egyptians and Algerians of North Africa.



The DNA results speak for itself.

TheBlue5:


Cool that we'll also support the theory that the Igbo came from a pre-exodus exodus. When the Igbo & and some other israelites heard of the warning from God & Moses and decided to leave beforehand. Where did you get the information?

bigfrancis21:


I'm well conversant with the YDNA make up of Yorubas, with over 90% pointing to sub-saharan african. It is actually the Igbos with about 80% pointing to subsaharan african origin, which leaves the remainder to some possible 'outside' origin. Now the MtDna test results (maternal origin) of the Igbo indicates they share same maternal dna with the Egyptians and Algerians of North Africa.

The DNA results speak for itself.

bigfrancis21:


Give me some minutes and I'll post the results for you.

Ihuomadinihu:

Igbos belong to the E haplogroup: E3a/b. This group is found in Africa,Europe and Asia. Hausas are Afro-asiatic,while Yorubas are slightly Euro asian. I think they should be making claims here. What Mtdna are you writing about?

bigfrancis21:


How are Yorubas Euroasian? Do you have evidence for this claim?

TheBlue5:


Explain the archealogist evidence...
•The Paleo (Ancient) Hebrew script found in a bunch of Igbo territories.
• The many stars of David found in Igbo territories.
• The carbon dating that suggested the Igbo first came to Nigeria around 3,000 BCE
• The Egyptian Model that was found that supported the theory that the first Igbo came from Egypt (around biblical times)
• The other Star of David that also suggest the Igbo came from the ancient city of King David
• The onyx stone that was found at the palace at OBU-Gad that had the name 'Gad' written in Paleo (Ancient) Hebrew.
• The stone throne of Gad at OBU-Gad that had "This throne belongs to my father Gad" written again in Paleo- (ancient) Hebrew built by Eri himself.
• The Nigerian Koba coins (I think it was the Koba ones) that had the Star of David on it.

Now until you can explain all of this, then I will leave you alone, oh and every single last one of them not just a few.

ezeagu:


There are no ancient Hebrew scripts found in Igboland. The 'Star of David' or hexagram, as a simple literally universal shape, is common to almost every culture. The symbol itself wasn't used by Israelites or Judea, it has been popularised in the last 500 years. Carbon dating has found human settlement in Igbo land for thousands of years before 3000 BC, Igbo-cultural settlements have been suggested at 6000 BC. What Egyptian "model"? What other "Star of David"? Evidence of the "Obu Gad" is needed, anyone credible dated this? And again, what does 'Gad' mean in Igbo, why is there no earlier mention in texts on Nri of "Obu Gad"? Why is the name 'Gad' so different from normal Igbo lexicon that does not end words in consonants except 'n' and 'm'? How did Igbo change from an Afro-Asiatic language to a Niger Congo language with no evidence of Afro-Asiatic influence? Why are there no other people in Nri history named Gad? Again, what does colonial minted coins have to do with 'Igbo Jews'?

ezeagu:


There are no ancient Hebrew scripts found in Igboland. The 'Star of David' or hexagram, as a simple literally universal shape, is common to almost every culture. The symbol itself wasn't used by Israelites or Judea, it has been popularised in the last 500 years. Carbon dating has found human settlement in Igbo land for thousands of years before 3000 BC, Igbo-cultural settlements have been suggested at 6000 BC. What Egyptian "model"? What other "Star of David"? Evidence of the "Obu Gad" is needed, anyone credible dated this? And again, what does 'Gad' mean in Igbo, why is there no earlier mention in texts on Nri of "Obu Gad"? Why is the name 'Gad' so different from normal Igbo lexicon that does not end words in consonants except 'n' and 'm'? How did Igbo change from an Afro-Asiatic language to a Niger Congo language with no evidence of Afro-Asiatic influence? Why are there no other people in Nri history named Gad? Again, what does colonial minted coins have to do with 'Igbo Jews'?

ezeagu:


There are no ancient Hebrew scripts found in Igboland. The 'Star of David' or hexagram, as a simple literally universal shape, is common to almost every culture. The symbol itself wasn't used by Israelites or Judea, it has been popularised in the last 500 years. Carbon dating has found human settlement in Igbo land for thousands of years before 3000 BC, Igbo-cultural settlements have been suggested at 6000 BC. What Egyptian "model"? What other "Star of David"? Evidence of the "Obu Gad" is needed, anyone credible dated this? And again, what does 'Gad' mean in Igbo, why is there no earlier mention in texts on Nri of "Obu Gad"? Why is the name 'Gad' so different from normal Igbo lexicon that does not end words in consonants except 'n' and 'm'? How did Igbo change from an Afro-Asiatic language to a Niger Congo language with no evidence of Afro-Asiatic influence? Why are there no other people in Nri history named Gad? Again, what does colonial minted coins have to do with 'Igbo Jews'?

Radoillo:


How familiar are you with Aguleri history?

What you 'Hebraists' call Obu-Gad was/is actually Obu-Ugam or Obu-Uga, Uga/Ugam being the name of one of the early kings of Aguleri. The name was corrupted only in the last century by people eager to become Jews.

And what the current Ezeora Aguleri (stop calling him the Igbo king as if all Igbos recognise his suzerainty) told CNN is immaterial. Anybody with an agenda can claim anything. His ancestors didn't tell the early colonial anthropologists that they were Jews, rather they spoke of links with the Igala.. Heck, his ancestors were not even aware of a place called Israel. The claims only appeared in the last century...after Igbos became Christian and literate and studied the Bible.

bigfrancis21:


I'm well conversant with the YDNA make up of Yorubas, with over 90% pointing to sub-saharan african. It is actually the Igbos with about 80% pointing to subsaharan african origin, which leaves the remainder to some possible 'outside' origin. Now the MtDna test results (maternal origin) of the Igbo indicates they share same maternal dna with the Egyptians and Algerians of North Africa.



The DNA results speak for itself.

TheBlue5:


Explain the archealogist evidence...
•The Paleo (Ancient) Hebrew script found in a bunch of Igbo territories.

The many stars of David found in Igbo territories.

The carbon dating that suggested the Igbo first came to Nigeria around 3,000 BCE

The Egyptian Model that was found that supported the theory that the first Igbo came from Egypt (around biblical times)

The other Star of David that also suggest the Igbo came from the ancient city of King David

The onyx stone that was found at the palace at OBU-Gad that had the name 'Gad' written in Paleo (Ancient) Hebrew.

The throne of Gad at OBU-Gad that had "This throne belongs to my father Gad" written again in Paleo- (ancient) Hebrew built by Eri himself.

The Nigerian Koba coins (I think it was the Koba ones) that had the Star of David on it.

TheBlue5:


Should I stop calling Obama the president since not every American citizen recognizes Obama presidential role?

Ihuomadinihu:

I didn't say they are Eurasian. Dna scientist discovered slight eurasian admixture and neanderthals genes in a small Yoruba sample. I was surprised when i saw this. The L mtdna is more concertrated amongst Pygmies,although we share L1 with senegal,muritania and Egypt etc. If we truly want to search for our roots then we need to look at the true origins of E haplogroup which many scientist say originated in East Africa/Central Africa and Sahara. Look into bantu migration and the ancient San related tribes.

TheBlue5:


Did you get the results?

Radoillo:


Which Hebrew scripts? The one curious-looking inscriptions which were once claimed to be Hebrew writings have been proven to be a hoax.



Can you post pictures of these Igbo stars of David, and prove that they were used by pre-Colonial Igbo?





Actually this point is destroying your case, not making it. Abraham, the ancestor of the Hebrews belong to a much later age than 3000 BC. If we were here by 3000 BC, then we are most definitely not Hebrews



What Egyptian Model? What Egyptian Model?



Make up your mind. Are we pre-Abrahamic Hebrew (3000BC, remember?), or are we from the city of David (which the Hebrews didn't capture until about 1000BC, two thousand years later?)



I've seen pictures of this so-called paleo-Hebrew, and it has been dismissed as a hoax.



You have pictures of this throne and this writing? Eri built this throne and wrote that? Bro, Hebrews of Eri's time (the Biblical Eri, that is) wrote nothing in any Hebrew script. They hadn't adopted the Semitic alphabet at the time. If they wrote anything, it would be in Egyptian hieroglyphics.



Which coins have the star of David on them? Anyway, let's assume some coins actually do have the Star of David inscribed on them. Weak-ass 'evidence', still...if I've ever heard one. You might as well say we are Arabs because of the Arabic writing on some of our notes.

Radoillo:


Which Hebrew scripts? The one curious-looking inscriptions which were once claimed to be Hebrew writings have been proven to be a hoax.



Can you post pictures of these Igbo stars of David, and prove that they were used by pre-Colonial Igbo?



Actually this point is destroying your case, not making it. Abraham, the ancestor of the Hebrews belong to a much later age than 3000 BC. If we were here by 3000 BC, then we are most definitely not Hebrews.



What Egyptian Model? What Egyptian Model?



Make up your mind. Are we pre-Abrahamic Hebrew (3000BC, remember?), or are we from the city of David (which the Hebrews didn't capture until about 1000BC, two thousand years later?)



I've seen pictures of this so-called paleo-Hebrew, and it has been dismissed as a hoax.



You have pictures of this throne and this writing? Eri built this throne and wrote that? Bro, Hebrews of Eri's time (the Biblical Eri, that is) wrote nothing in any Hebrew script. They hadn't adopted the Semitic alphabet at the time. If they wrote anything, it would be in Egyptian hieroglyphics.



Which coins have the star of David on them? Anyway, let's assume some coins actually do have the Star of David inscribed on them. Weak-ass 'evidence', still...if I've ever heard one. You might as well say we are Arabs because of the Arabic writing on some of our notes.

Radoillo:


Which Hebrew scripts? The one curious-looking inscriptions which were once claimed to be Hebrew writings have been proven to be a hoax.



Can you post pictures of these Igbo stars of David, and prove that they were used by pre-Colonial Igbo?



Actually this point is destroying your case, not making it. Abraham, the ancestor of the Hebrews belong to a much later age than 3000 BC. If we were here by 3000 BC, then we are most definitely not Hebrews.



What Egyptian Model? What Egyptian Model?



Make up your mind. Are we pre-Abrahamic Hebrew (3000BC, remember?), or are we from the city of David (which the Hebrews didn't capture until about 1000BC, two thousand years later?)



I've seen pictures of this so-called paleo-Hebrew, and it has been dismissed as a hoax.



You have pictures of this throne and this writing? Eri built this throne and wrote that? Bro, Hebrews of Eri's time (the Biblical Eri, that is) wrote nothing in any Hebrew script. They hadn't adopted the Semitic alphabet at the time. If they wrote anything, it would be in Egyptian hieroglyphics.



Which coins have the star of David on them? Anyway, let's assume some coins actually do have the Star of David inscribed on them. Weak-ass 'evidence', still...if I've ever heard one. You might as well say we are Arabs because of the Arabic writing on some of our notes.

TheBlue5:


-_- yes their are ancient Hebrew script found in Paleo hebrew www.hebrewigbo.com

bigfrancis21:


I'm well conversant with the YDNA make up of Yorubas, with over 90% pointing to sub-saharan african. It is actually the Igbos with about 80% pointing to subsaharan african origin, which leaves the remainder to some possible 'outside' origin. Now the MtDna test results (maternal origin) of the Igbo indicates they share same maternal dna with the Egyptians and Algerians of North Africa.

The DNA results speak for itself.

TheBlue5:


Why had Israel confirm that Igbo are Ephraim? The israeli government must have done some research.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsHYdL0UTR4

Radoillo:



It's hard to keep up with you, bruv. First, Igbos belong to the tribe of Gad, now they belong to the tribe of Ephraim? Let's keep the story straight, shall we?

bigfrancis21:


Please publish your evidence for this claim.

TheBlue5:


According to some website the Igbo takes up the majority of the tribe of Gad, while the rest are like Ephraim, Issacher, etc. Don't blame me. Blame your people. They're the one who started the hebrew-Igbo theory, I just went and researched it.

ezeagu:


Actually, they weren't, missionaries and colonial governments started the theory to justify their colonisation of the area, i.e the Igbo people colonised the area so we're carrying on a tradition of subjugating people in the area. The theory is white-supremacist, they denigrate Igbo culture by calling the Igbo "idol" worshippers and people who angered god, hence slavery. Keep the shi t.

TheBlue5:


Ok so it's the missionaries's fault?

ezeagu:
By the way what is Benjamin Netanyahu going to do? Invite all 30 million + Igbo people to Israel when they can't even tolerate the few thousand black African Jews that currently reside there?

Ihuomadinihu:

I was really disappointed when i read about widespread racism over there.

TheBlue5:


Show me where the Paleo- Hebrew has been proven to be a hoax?? And what about the onyx stone?