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Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by bigfrancis21: 10:03pm On Apr 06, 2015 |
Ihuomadinihu: I'm well conversant with the YDNA make up of Yorubas, with over 90% pointing to sub-saharan african. It is actually the Igbos with about 80% pointing to subsaharan african origin, which leaves the remainder to some possible 'outside' origin. Now the MtDna test results (maternal origin) of the Igbo indicates they share same maternal dna with the Egyptians and Algerians of North Africa. The DNA results speak for itself. |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by TheBlue5: 10:09pm On Apr 06, 2015 |
bigfrancis21: Cool that we'll also support the theory that the Igbo came from a pre-exodus exodus. When the Igbo & and some other israelites heard of the warning from God & Moses and decided to leave beforehand. Where did you get the information? |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by bigfrancis21: 10:11pm On Apr 06, 2015 |
TheBlue5: Give me some minutes and I'll post the results for you. |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Ihuomadinihu: 10:14pm On Apr 06, 2015 |
bigfrancis21:Igbos belong to the E haplogroup: E3a/b. This group is found in Africa,Europe and Asia. Hausas are Afro-asiatic,while Yorubas are slightly Euro asian. I think they should be making claims here. What Mtdna are you writing about? |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by TheBlue5: 10:15pm On Apr 06, 2015 |
bigfrancis21:Thanks and here: According to other schools of thought, the origin of the Igbo begins with the story of the eponymous ancestor, Eri. By archeological account, in around 2345 BC in Ancient Egypt, a certain “M-Eru-ka (or Eru/Eri)” became a high priest to Pharaoh Teti. Subsequently, as a result of dynastic tensions, M-Eru-ka let Kemit with many of his family and followers and set forth towards the south-west, where the great sea of southern Ethiopia washed the shores of Palm-tree lined beaches. Eri as he was later called entered into the territory that was to become later day modern Nigeria. He set up many lodges across the land, wherein Kemitian Muur Sciences were studied and practised. Some elements of those sciences and wisdom still survive in mutilated forms in Nigeria of today. |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by bigfrancis21: 10:19pm On Apr 06, 2015 |
Ihuomadinihu: How are Yorubas Euroasian? Do you have evidence for this claim? |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Ihuomadinihu: 10:26pm On Apr 06, 2015 |
bigfrancis21:I didn't say they are Eurasian. Dna scientist discovered slight eurasian admixture and neanderthals genes in a small Yoruba sample. I was surprised when i saw this. The L mtdna is more concertrated amongst Pygmies,although we share L1 with senegal,muritania and Egypt etc. If we truly want to search for our roots then we need to look at the true origins of E haplogroup which many scientist say originated in East Africa/Central Africa and Sahara. Look into bantu migration and the ancient San related tribes. |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by ezeagu(m): 10:32pm On Apr 06, 2015 |
TheBlue5: There are no ancient Hebrew scripts found in Igboland. The 'Star of David' or hexagram, as a simple literally universal shape, is common to almost every culture. The symbol itself wasn't used by Israelites or Judea, it has been popularised in the last 500 years. Carbon dating has found human settlement in Igbo land for thousands of years before 3000 BC, Igbo-cultural settlements have been suggested at 6000 BC. What Egyptian "model"? What other "Star of David"? Evidence of the "Obu Gad" is needed, anyone credible dated this? And again, what does 'Gad' mean in Igbo, why is there no earlier mention in texts on Nri of "Obu Gad"? Why is the name 'Gad' so different from normal Igbo lexicon that does not end words in consonants except 'n' and 'm'? How did Igbo change from an Afro-Asiatic language to a Niger Congo language with no evidence of Afro-Asiatic influence? Why are there no other people in Nri history named Gad? Again, what does colonial minted coins have to do with 'Igbo Jews'? 2 Likes |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by TheBlue5: 10:42pm On Apr 06, 2015 |
ezeagu: -_- yes their are ancient Hebrew script found in Paleo hebrew www.hebrewigbo.com |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by TheBlue5: 10:44pm On Apr 06, 2015 |
ezeagu: http://www.hebrewigbo.com/archeological1.html |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by TheBlue5: 10:45pm On Apr 06, 2015 |
ezeagu: http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/igbos-of-nigeria-and-ancient-kemitians-of-kemit-egypt-oguejiofo-annu/ |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by TheBlue5: 10:50pm On Apr 06, 2015 |
Radoillo: Should I stop calling Obama the president since not every American citizen recognizes Obama presidential role? 1 Like |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by TheBlue5: 10:51pm On Apr 06, 2015 |
bigfrancis21: Did you get the results? |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Nobody: 10:54pm On Apr 06, 2015 |
TheBlue5: Which Hebrew scripts? The one curious-looking inscriptions which were once claimed to be Hebrew writings have been proven to be a hoax. The many stars of David found in Igbo territories. Can you post pictures of these Igbo stars of David, and prove that they were used by pre-Colonial Igbo? The carbon dating that suggested the Igbo first came to Nigeria around 3,000 BCE Actually this point is destroying your case, not making it. Abraham, the ancestor of the Hebrews belong to a much later age than 3000 BC. If we were here by 3000 BC, then we are most definitely not Hebrews. The Egyptian Model that was found that supported the theory that the first Igbo came from Egypt (around biblical times) What Egyptian Model? What Egyptian Model? The other Star of David that also suggest the Igbo came from the ancient city of King David Make up your mind. Are we pre-Abrahamic Hebrew (3000BC, remember?), or are we from the city of David (which the Hebrews didn't capture until about 1000BC, two thousand years later?) The onyx stone that was found at the palace at OBU-Gad that had the name 'Gad' written in Paleo (Ancient) Hebrew. I've seen pictures of this so-called paleo-Hebrew, and it has been dismissed as a hoax. The throne of Gad at OBU-Gad that had "This throne belongs to my father Gad" written again in Paleo- (ancient) Hebrew built by Eri himself. You have pictures of this throne and this writing? Eri built this throne and wrote that? Bro, Hebrews of Eri's time (the Biblical Eri, that is) wrote nothing in any Hebrew script. They hadn't adopted the Semitic alphabet at the time. If they wrote anything, it would be in Egyptian hieroglyphics. The Nigerian Koba coins (I think it was the Koba ones) that had the Star of David on it. Which coins have the star of David on them? Anyway, let's assume some coins actually do have the Star of David inscribed on them. Weak-ass 'evidence', still...if I've ever heard one. You might as well say we are Arabs because of the Arabic writing on some of our notes. 2 Likes |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Nobody: 10:56pm On Apr 06, 2015 |
TheBlue5: No. But you can't call him the president of all of the Americas, because no one recognises his authority outside the US. No one recognises the Ezeora Aguleri's authority outside Aguleri. 1 Like |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by bigfrancis21: 11:04pm On Apr 06, 2015 |
Ihuomadinihu: Please publish your evidence for this claim. |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by bigfrancis21: 11:05pm On Apr 06, 2015 |
TheBlue5: I'll post the result. Just stepped into class 30 minutes ago. |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by TheBlue5: 11:06pm On Apr 06, 2015 |
Radoillo: https://www./376050637609102092/ |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by TheBlue5: 11:08pm On Apr 06, 2015 |
Radoillo: Show me where the Paleo- Hebrew has been proven to be a hoax?? And what about the onyx stone? |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by TheBlue5: 11:10pm On Apr 06, 2015 |
Radoillo: Why had Israel confirm that Igbo are Ephraim? The israeli government must have done some research. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsHYdL0UTR4 |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by ezeagu(m): 11:11pm On Apr 06, 2015 |
TheBlue5: This website is fabricated nonsense, come with something reliable. |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by ezeagu(m): 11:16pm On Apr 06, 2015 |
bigfrancis21: Where's this from? All the DNA I've seen are 100% African, not even a trace of "other". |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Nobody: 11:30pm On Apr 06, 2015 |
TheBlue5: It's hard to keep up with you, bruv. First, Igbos belong to the tribe of Gad, now they belong to the tribe of Ephraim? Let's keep the story straight, shall we? 2 Likes |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by TheBlue5: 11:32pm On Apr 06, 2015 |
Radoillo: According to some website the Igbo takes up the majority of the tribe of Gad, while the rest are like Ephraim, Issacher, etc. Don't blame me. Blame your people. They're the one who started the hebrew-Igbo theory, I just went and researched it. 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Ihuomadinihu: 11:37pm On Apr 06, 2015 |
bigfrancis21:It's all over the net. I 've been studying African dna makeup snice last week and it's quite interesting. Both our Y dna and Mtdna are linked to central and East Africa and Igbos cluster more to a san like group(only God knows what it is). We are only dealing with two dnas : the E group and Mtdna L1. Anyother thing or admixture is left for dna testing,which can be conducted in any area. |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by ezeagu(m): 11:38pm On Apr 06, 2015 |
TheBlue5: Actually, they weren't, missionaries and colonial governments started the theory to justify their colonisation of the area, i.e the Igbo people colonised the area so we're carrying on a tradition of subjugating people in the area. The theory is white-supremacist, they denigrate Igbo culture by calling the Igbo "idol" worshippers and people who angered god, hence slavery. Keep the shi t. 4 Likes |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by TheBlue5: 11:40pm On Apr 06, 2015 |
ezeagu: Ok so it's the missionaries's fault? |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by ezeagu(m): 11:41pm On Apr 06, 2015 |
By the way what is Benjamin Netanyahu going to do? Invite all 30 million + Igbo people to Israel when they can't even tolerate the few thousand black African Jews that currently reside there? 5 Likes |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by ezeagu(m): 11:42pm On Apr 06, 2015 |
TheBlue5: It's white supremacist fault. 1 Like |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Ihuomadinihu: 11:43pm On Apr 06, 2015 |
ezeagu:I was really disappointed when i read about widespread racism over there. |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by ezeagu(m): 11:45pm On Apr 06, 2015 |
Ihuomadinihu: Why? Israel basically bulldozed through communities to exist in the first place. 2 Likes |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Nobody: 11:47pm On Apr 06, 2015 |
TheBlue5: There was a paper I saw a couple of years back that deals with some questions raised by this 'Gad' inscription. I haven't seen it since, but it did make a case which isn't difficult to follow. First, the Biblical Eri lived well before the Hebrews adopted the Semitic alphabet. So, assuming that they were writing anything at the time, there was no way they were using anything like the so-called 'Paleo-Hebrew inscription' that I have seen. Simple point, really. Second, since no similar 'Paleo-Hebrew inscription' is known from Israel,there is no way really to prove that the Aguleri 'Gad' is anything but Gibberish. These onyx stones, what are they? You have pictures? I want to have a look. 3 Likes |
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