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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by soloniger(m): 2:56am On Apr 09, 2015
soloniger:
seconded!
good night pw
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by carpenter(m): 6:51am On Apr 09, 2015
Elai147:


Thank you my oga for this advice. In addition, don't risk money you can't afford to lose. Unfortunately, some of my ogas here do not agree with me on this but it remains the truth. If you can't afford to lose then the stock market is not for you. Try Treasury Bills or better still contact Feelamong.

I agree...

There is no one size fits all. I might be exiting a stock for the same reason someone else wants to enter. My first rule is know thy self and be able to answer some questions truthfully.

I try not to follow the crowd and I believe if you pick a stock with good fundamentals you will always win in the end, the level of your winnings will however still depend on how much you paid for it. Never forget to ask for the price, and don't ever think for a second that you will get it right all the time. There will be loses of -58% and there will be gains of +1000%...untill you sell, you have not lost or gained anything in reality besides dividends which I treasure so much. If you will not be able to manage your emotions to your advantage, invest in a mutual fund https://www.nairaland.com/1912965/mutual-funds ...you will average 10-15% on a yearly basis (some guaranteed, others not guaranteed) and depeding on the fund you choose, you may have capital gains also.

I follow the below steps when investing in the stock market, please note that this is not prescriptive, it is just descriptive

1. Is the price right? (I do all my calculations based on the price I bought a stock not the price it is currently and they are very elementary calculations, after all ...what I gain or lose is based on the price i bought in relation to the market at the time I sell)

2. Am I okay with the risk of taking a big loss on this company? ( I consider myself an owner of the business first, not a monkey merchant. You cannot be pig farmer and be following the ways a monkey farmer feeds his monkeys)

3. Is the stock ethical for me? (I am not inclined to buy into businesses involved in alcohol, the others I can manage with some judgement of my own)

4. Gut feeling (we cannot rule our emotions, it makes us who we are)

5. Evaluation on a yearly basis based on new knowledge acquired (i am not afraid to say...wow! I messed up with this, sometimes I cut my loses, sometimes i build on them). I pick up a lot of things from here from time to time.

6. I take my investments serious, if a company I own has released something I should know (When I visit my registrars I have my manual records ready with me, am going there not to know whats up but to compare figures. From the reception I got the last time I was at a few registrars' office, this is not something they see often)

Note: I am largely an Investor so some of these may not apply to you if you are a speculator

Finally, a profitable and ethically run business may not neccessarily translate to profits for an investor.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by duni04(m): 7:18am On Apr 09, 2015
Interesting. Never knew there was an alternate thread on mutual funds on NL.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ernie4life(m): 7:20am On Apr 09, 2015
carpenter:


I agree...

There is no one size fits all. I might be exiting a stock for the same reason someone else wants to enter. My first rule is know thy self and be able to answer some questions truthfully.

I try not to follow the crowd and I believe if you pick a stock with good fundamentals you will always win in the end, the level of your winnings will however still depend on how much you paid for it. Never forget to ask for the price, and don't ever think for a second that you will get it right all the time. There will be loses of -58% and there will be gains of +1000%...untill you sell, you have not lost or gained anything in reality besides dividends which I treasure so much. If you will not be able to manage your emotions to your advantage, invest in a mutual fund https://www.nairaland.com/1912965/mutual-funds ...you will average 10-15% on a yearly basis (some guaranteed, others not guaranteed) and depeding on the fund you choose, you may have capital gains also.

I follow the below steps when investing in the stock market, please note that this is not prescriptive, it is just descriptive

1. Is the price right? (I do all my calculations based on the price I bought a stock not the price it is currently and they are very elementary calculations, after all ...what I gain or lose is based on the price i bought in relation to the market at the time I sell)

2. Am I okay with the risk of taking a big loss on this company? ( I consider myself an owner of the business first, not a monkey merchant. You cannot be pig farmer and be following the ways a monkey farmer feeds his monkeys)

3. Is the stock ethical for me? (I am not inclined to buy into businesses involved in alcohol, the others I can manage with some judgement of my own)

4. Gut feeling (we cannot rule our emotions, it makes us who we are)

5. Evaluation on a yearly basis based on new knowledge acquired (i am not afraid to say...wow! I messed up with this, sometimes I cut my loses, sometimes i build on them). I pick up a lot of things from here from time to time.

6. I take my investments serious, if a company I own has released something I should know (When I visit my registrars I have my manual records ready with me, am going there not to know whats up but to compare figures. From the reception I got the last time I was at a few registrars' office, this is not something they see often)

Note: I am largely an Investor so some of these may not apply to you if you are a speculator

Finally, a profitable and ethically run business may not neccessarily translate to profits for an investor.

nice points boss

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Born2berich: 7:26am On Apr 09, 2015
Moneysage:


grin

We're talking about illiquid stocks here, Sir. As in, ILLIQUID!

The decision is largely yours, based on investment circumstances. You could put your price at - 10% and exit at a faster rate or put at -5% or - 7% or - 3% and find it difficult to exit the ILLIQUID stock.

As for me o, I go even try - 15% sef grin grin grin I kukuma lose heavily and use the money sharperly in Transcorp or FBNH cheesy

That is exactly what am saying..what is the point of buying an illiquid stock were at the end you will find it difficult getting out and end up losing cash.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Born2berich: 7:34am On Apr 09, 2015
Elai147:


grin grin grin That is the point oga B2BR. It requires some level of descipline and sacrifice. Sacrificing 10% from already made profit or loss is not bad as long as you are able to get out of the stock and move on, except you're converting to long term. Remember the more you wait the more the stock may likely drop in price and will eventually lose more than that 10% you were not willing to let go.

What you guys also forget is that illiquid stock don't bring a lot of interest from other buyers. For example, let's assume that I have being mopping up eternal at 2.78- 2.95 and I have about 2million units after the accumulation. I want to sell at minus 10% but the number of units on buy order is not up to half of my own units am willing to sell. At the end I will be able to sell some but I will still have more than enough that I will still sell another day at another minus 10%. So what's the essence?

If you want to trade in illiquid stocks don't put to much cash.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Born2berich: 7:35am On Apr 09, 2015
Agbalowomeri:
So una no wan sleep again? Or Buhari declared public holiday 2mr?

@Born2Rich; I dey wait u for that corner

But na true I talk na. grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Born2berich: 7:38am On Apr 09, 2015
duni04:
Interesting. Never knew there was an alternate thread on mutual funds on NL.

There are a lot of things you don't know here but you will learn as time goes on. Anything involving mutual fund just meet Oga feelamong.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Born2berich: 7:42am On Apr 09, 2015
Elai147:


If to say I see who wan buy my Universal insurance (the only bad stock in my portifolio grin) I for no mind losing 50% self

Anybody interested in buying standard insurance, guinea insurance, consolidated hallmark, multi verse, IAI should pm me. That one I don't already lose over 200% as I bought majority at N4-N5. Now they are N0.50k grin

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by perkinsilas: 7:54am On Apr 09, 2015
I think, The insurance prices are varied from state to state. In these days, Insurance is one of the essential requirements for everyone. Could you please share me some more information about the topic.










Singapore Life Insurance
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by carpenter(m): 8:24am On Apr 09, 2015
Born2berich:


Anybody interested in buying standard insurance, guinea insurance, consolidated hallmark, multi verse, IAI should pm me. That one I don't already lose over 200% as I bought majority at N4-N5. Now they are N0.50k grin

You my friend is a strongman.

I can trade beco for standard insurance grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by zendi: 8:39am On Apr 09, 2015
myjoy08:


http://www.proshareng.com/news/26593/NSE-to-Place-UNITYBNK-Shares-on-Full-Suspension-Proshare
to stop it from further dropping, i suppose. "follow follow" mentality.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Manonamission: 9:18am On Apr 09, 2015
zendi:
to stop it from further dropping, i suppose. "follow follow" mentality.

Share will be reconstructed then it will be relisted at N5 per share.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by feelamong(m): 9:26am On Apr 09, 2015
Manonamission:


Share will be reconstructed then it will be relisted at N5 per share.

Then it will fall to 70k again abi? grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by natruetalk: 9:40am On Apr 09, 2015
Manonamission:


Share will be reconstructed then it will be relisted at N5 per share.

feelamong:

Then it will fall to 70k again abi? grin

.......and ordinary share holders will surfer the company's crime embarassed inter-energy & sterln bank did it in d past investors in crying mood till 2day undecided

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by kaytues(m): 9:42am On Apr 09, 2015
i need a stockbroker. I reside in ikotun... I want to sell my shares. Dangote Flour Mills. Contact me on 08082178754
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by angelo82: 9:43am On Apr 09, 2015
When is the best time of the trading day to sell a stock online?........
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by natruetalk: 9:48am On Apr 09, 2015
Chi! c as pple just dey use myself & oga Agba stock pick as case study. only time will tell, he go do una like a magic
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Elai147: 9:51am On Apr 09, 2015
carpenter:

3. Is the stock ethical for me? (I am not inclined to buy into businesses involved in alcohol, the others I can manage with some judgement of my own)

Nice one. This your No.3 ehhh? You be pastor ni? Do yo mean you'll not be willing to invest in stocks like NB and Guinness even when they have become the holy grail?
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Elai147: 9:55am On Apr 09, 2015
Born2berich:


What you guys also forget is that illiquid stock don't bring a lot of interest from other buyers. For example, let's assume that I have being mopping up eternal at 2.78- 2.95 and I have about 2million units after the accumulation. I want to sell at minus 10% but the number of units on buy order is not up to half of my own units am willing to sell. At the end I will be able to sell some but I will still have more than enough that I will still sell another day at another minus 10%. So what's the essence?

If you want to trade in illiquid stocks don't put to much cash.

That is the koko. It is illogical to be over exposed to an illiquid stock.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Agbalowomeri: 10:03am On Apr 09, 2015
natruetalk:
Chi! c as pple just dey use myself & oga Agba stock pick as case study. only time will tell, he go do una like a magic

Bros sssssssssssssss! No blow am again. Time approaching for further accumulation

#TheNewFO
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Elai147: 10:05am On Apr 09, 2015
feelamong:


Then it will fall to 70k again abi? grin

Some people with high risk appetite go hammer for dis unity bank reconstruction. Are you sure they will allow the price to fall just like that, for dis our mago mago NSE?
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Elai147: 10:08am On Apr 09, 2015
kaytues:
i need a stockbroker. I reside in ikotun... I want to sell my shares. Dangote Flour Mills. Contact me on 08082178754

Contact Meristem securities www.meristemng.com
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by carpenter(m): 10:13am On Apr 09, 2015
Elai147:


Nice one. This your No.3 ehhh? You be pastor ni? Do yo mean you'll not be willing to invest in stocks like NB and Guinness even when they have become the holy grail?

Am not very religious but top on my priority on this earth is to make heaven.

I am a muslim and staying away from those stocks is my own way of doing the best I can not to promote such businesses.

However, if I do not have a job and that is the only job available, I would work there to earn a living.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Elai147: 10:15am On Apr 09, 2015
Na wa for fcmb sha!
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Born2berich: 10:29am On Apr 09, 2015
carpenter:


You my friend is a strongman.

I can trade beco for standard insurance grin

Oga carpenter, you no like me at all..Chia from std ins to beco petroleum grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by carpenter(m): 10:31am On Apr 09, 2015
Born2berich:


Oga carpenter, you no like me at all..Chia from std ins to beco petroleum grin

You might be interested in Oil and Gas grin tongue
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Born2berich: 10:35am On Apr 09, 2015
Elai147:


That is the koko. It is illogical to be over exposed to an illiquid stock.

Supported
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Born2berich: 10:37am On Apr 09, 2015
carpenter:


You might be interested in Oil and Gas grin tongue

Afroil showed me strong thing then grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Born2berich: 10:38am On Apr 09, 2015
I just bought transcorp at around N3.

Morgan capital is the best.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by angelo82: 10:50am On Apr 09, 2015
What the Bleep is wrong with Meristem?......You can't even log on all of a sudden.....
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by lancee(m): 10:53am On Apr 09, 2015
Oando changing

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