patches689:


So why do the americans desperatly want to buy it?

To disarm you of capability of making dirty bombs that just spread radioactive materials like a chemical weapon.

Southie arsenal of nuclear bombs is dead.

You even have NO nuclear compatible aircraft to deliver it in war !

Gripen is NOT nuclear capable. RSA is NOT a nuclear power today, you just have harmful radioactive materials half decayed
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MikeCZAR:
Trash can worthy radar.

Saab offered the Gripen E/F to Brazil competition which will use a AESA radar, it will also have SA made. Parts

The Mk3 was only available from 2005.

The Grifo-7 is really inferior.

Brazil, Czech Republic, Italy all use Grifo-7 radar today. NATO air forces use same Grifo 7 radar as Nigeria.

You better beware of the NAF F-7 jet with NATO standard radar...the all seeing eye !

http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2012-03-23/selex-galileo-improves-grifo-radar-new-applications
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MikeCZAR:
1 AK-47 and 31 rounds.

When SANDF grows up and matures to deploy 30,000 troops into one single battle, we will count your bullets/mags per man.

Count Nigerian army bullet rounds per soldier.....and see if the rifles are just AK-47
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THIS IS FOR AGAGUST TO EDUCATE HIMSELF ABOUT NUCLEAR FROM AN EXPERT POINT OF VIEW.



http://mybroadband.co.za/news/energy/122238-south-africas-hidden-nuclear-explosives.html

agaugust:


When SANDF grows up and matures to deploy 30,000 troops into one single battle, we will count your bullets/mags per man.

Count Nigerian army bullet rounds per soldier.....and see if the rifles are just AK-47
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I JUST SEE A REBEL SOLDIER.

jpphilips:


Does it change the fact that you are mentally incapacitated to address the questions there in?

Bros, address the questions you bloody coward, name calling will not save you this time, I AM BACK FOR YOU!! (thank God for elections),In case your brain could not sieve out the questions, I will help your dumb soul

The questions are;

1)can you prove to this honorable house that ECOWAS blacklisted Ivory coast in 2011? Let me remind you that you claim to know too much as such, to get the evidence won't be a problem, please do not tactically maneuver out of this for any reason whatsoever, it is either you are proving or you are shutting up completely.
I will neither read nor respond to any other gibberish that doesn't have the proof i asked for.

2) Prove that Ghaddafi predicted Nigeria's disintegration because Nigeria and other countries rejected the United States of Africa, any strenuous analogies and unverifiable claims will NOT be read.,

3) can you in clear conscience assume that Nigeria is a lord over Saudi Arabia because our doctors took refuge there??

4) Who was the first chairperson of the AU? one single answer of a name and probably date, any other strenuous crap will not be read.

5) Do you agree that Nigeria was threatened by France before we agreed to hand over Bakassi?

6) Prove that France is uncomfortable with Nigeria hegemony in Africa, and what are those Hegemonies?

7) Prove that the African Union is more organised than the Arab league.

Compare the Nigerian first Ebola case with the United states first Ebola case.

Remember that name calling is just an attitude, answers to questions shows your intelligence, all the questions up there were all your claims hence we implore you to do justice to them, dont let your brain down this time.

Alright,slowpoke, I'm back
dealing with your question by numerical order.

No. 1----- the BBC reports that president Jonathan who happened to be the ECOWAS president, after an emergency meeting in Abuja, officially recognised the prime minister as the president-ellect and demanded the gbagbo government to step down. Jonathan also offered him refuge in Nigeria and gave him an option of military action or peacefully handing over. What's more , The West African central Bank blocked gbagbo from accessing funds of Ivory Coast. www.bbc.com/news/world -africa-12077298


No 2----- You demon of the internet, I never said ghadafi PREDICTED the disintegration of Nigeria because of the united Africa nonsense .

Ghadafi CALLED for the outright breakup of Nigeria onto smaller states which he later changed to two states along religious lines which is quite different from what the US did.
The US merely predicted the likely breakup of Nigeria which she even denied.

Ghadafi seeked a weakened Nigeria which will make the entire west Africa vulnerable to exploitation and puppet governments. Nigeria has been oppossing ghadafi ever before the united Africa crap. Charles Taylor which Nigerian led ECOWAS eased off was a close ally of ghadafi. www.pambazuka.net/en/category.phb/panafrica/

NO.3---- many Nigerian doctors are practicisng in Saudi Arabia which isn't a proof of any indication in that country. Quite unlike south Africa who clearly lacks the required quantity of qualified medical doctors to fill in there general hospitals.


No.4----- You keep embarrassing people unfortunate enough to bear your cursed name.

You claim south Africa was the brain child of the AU. I supplied you proof it was ghadafi. You are still a lame ignorant imposter and a fraud. The link on no.2 suffice here.

No. 5----- France was bluffing and never threatened. You are a foolish kid. I followed that event very well and the Nigerian army dealt with the Cameroonian gamdems. And our defence minister said this famous quote " Nigeria will walk into Cameroon, France or no France" that was when Cameroon RAN to the ICJ. Why did Cameroon initiate the court proceedings if she really trust France to attack? You are a certified, bona fide dummy.


with Total oil and other billion dollar investment in Nigeria, FRANCE CANNOT ATTACK .



No.6-----i said West Africa and not Africa
i know you are visually impaired so you have to write in coloured letters. But are you also mentally challenged you can't quote properly? Little wonder you had to resort to long narratives of weeping. https://books.google.com.ng/books?id=SZ-SmUs9pUEC&pg=PA52&lpg=PA52&dq=france+not+comfortable+with+Nigeria's+role+of+hegemony+in+west+africa&source=bl&ots=lo3_wMBNSv&sig=lMDKrDDiK4XUfVoJPPheQfX2Ji8&hl=en&sa=X&ei=i2AmVd_gIMuNaPTGgOAB&ved=0CA8Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=france%20not%20comfortable%20with%20Nigeria's%20role%20of%20hegemony%20in%20west%20africa&f=false

NO7----- where did i make that very assertion? you walking failure in human form.


From your posture and litrary language, you are a struggling student who should be busy with homework and cautious to know if you can obtain a degree.

I have made the sacrifice of educating you and allowing you access into my hallowed secrets of learning and research.

I shall be deeply saddened by anything other than an enlightened, sober-minded jpphilips, who has been dressed with the garb of sophisticated intellect and political debate by Leslie.

And do not forget to pay due respected to me before and after each and every post you make. You know my requests are a little conservative given what you have just learnt today.

agaugust:


To disarm you of capability of making dirty bombs that just spread radioactive materials like a chemical weapon.

Southie arsenal of nuclear bombs is dead.

You even have NO nuclear compatible aircraft to deliver it in war !

Gripen is NOT nuclear capable. RSA is NOT a nuclear power today, you just have harmful radioactive materials half decayed
.

What do you mean when you say that gripen is not nuclear capable. Do you even understand that statement.

MikeCZAR:
Nope, it was the French who saved Mali cause there was no Leadership in ECOWAS.

Mali is a former colony of France, whom do you expect to save it? Russia?

Did France save Liberia and Sierra Leone or Sudan Dafur?

Nigeria saves the ex-British colonies that welcome us, you don't invade a country with troops and force your army on them if the people don't want you. You this this is 1939 age of German war invasion of sovereign states? Fool !

Anyway, France invited Nigeria to do recce and garrison ops in Mali, NA and NAF did their role well.

What big war has South Africa ever fought to save an African country except sending 2,000 troops to join about 20 countries in Congo under command of a Tanzanian army General leading SANDF in FIB light combat roles....short time war, did not even last one month !

SANDF is crap and untested alone in combat. Your last test with Seleka rebels was your historic failure !
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patches689:


We raised a 500 000 man army and they were all properly equipped

A single multi-use cammo is the modern military trend that has been adopted by the best militaries in the world, even the russians are trying to do so with gorka

SANDF today has on 50,000 regular troops with almost ZERO war experience, and gets commanded by Tanzania in battle
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patches689:


You dont know anything about mobility or logistics. Thats why you think either is relevant in Africa

Doctrine? Your army does not have a cohesive doctrine!!

Ours won us over 35 major battles in a 25 year war where our enemy modern equipment and systems (including amphibious and tracked vehicals)

You have never fought against a well armed and trained enemy. Our war history speaks for itself

SADF history of defeat by tiny Cuba with girl soldier.

SANDF history of defeat by illiterate Seleka farmer rebels.

Nice history for a failure magnet
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patches689:


Who says they have desert cammo under them?

Picture does not support your argument

Even your Southie friend @jn115 that brought the picture has admitted that the sweaters have desert camo under them. You want to be more catholic than the pope himself? Fool !
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agaugust:


Brazil, Czech Republic, Italy all use Grifo-7 radar today. NATO air forces use same Grifo 7 radar as Nigeria.

You better beware of the NAF F-7 jet with NATO standard radar...the all seeing eye !

http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2012-03-23/selex-galileo-improves-grifo-radar-new-applications
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Grifo-7 radar is just a piece of trash that is supposed to be dumbed on the rubbish bin. Zimbabwe bought 24 of them.

patches689:


Those photos are over a decade old befor NATO armies started adopting single multi-use cammo

Again you try to mislead us

Those are current NATO troops in Afghanistan....you are just ashamed to see your d.emolished argument

If Boko Haram war lasted more years, Nigeria too had launched a new standard uniform that combines desert and savanna green...
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agaugust:


Even your Southie friend @jn115 that brought the picture has admitted that the sweaters have desert camo under them. You want to be more catholic than the pope himself? Fool !
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The SANDF uniform will still do well in a desert.

patches689:


radar coverage on its sides is also weak - as it is with every single jet fighter in the world

Citation needed for claims on side radar view of every jet fighter in the world !
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Msauza:



Mechanics and delivery boys who earn 3X more than your President for just doing odd jobs. There is something fishy in your statement.

By the way the wife of the dead SA mercenary already confessed that her husband was never a mechanic but a fighter who fought for defenceless at a cost. That's how he was making a living.

I asked you how much does a Nigerian president earn? I would also love to scrutinize the link of the dead mercenary's wife.

patches689:


Those gloves arent standard issue

Citation needed
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agaugust:


Those are current NATO troops in Afghanistan....you are just ashamed to see your d.emolished argument

If Boko Haram war lasted more years, Nigeria too had launched a new standard uniform that combines desert and savanna green...
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Your army is confused when it comes to uniform, that's why BH used to fool them with their own uniform.

patches689:


No augustus

Not false
Fact.

Sorry that MARPAT, CAPDAT, FELIN and UCP have completely destroyed your agrument

Modern armies use one multi-use cammo

My 5 photos proved you wrong 12 hours ago !
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agaugust:


Mali is a former colony of France, whom do you expect to save it? Russia?

Did France save Liberia and Sierra Leone or Sudan Dafur?

Nigeria saves the ex-British colonies that welcome us, you don't invade a country with troops and force your army on them if the people don't want you. You this this is 1939 age of German war invasion of sovereign states? Fool !

Anyway, France invited Nigeria to do recce and garrison ops in Mali, NA and NAF did their role well.

What big war has South Africa ever fought to save an African country except sending 2,000 troops to join about 20 countries in Congo under command of a Tanzanian army General leading SANDF in FIB light combat roles....short time war, did not even last one month !

SANDF is crap and untested alone in combat. Your last test with Seleka rebels was your historic failure !
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jl115:

"body armour colours different from camo uniform colour"
When did i ever say they have to match their uniform?(Although personally it looks more proffesional)
When i said miss-match i meant soldiers in the same unit wearing different colours of body armour

Pic1: All are wearing the same body armour and uniform, the only difference is some have webbing on and others dont!
Pic2: They look piss poor to be honest,besides that it looks like a training exercise and not a combat zone.
Pic3: Dont know what you are trying to prove here?I never had a problem with different units using different camo, it was the Fact that Nigeria has Soldiers in the same unit with different webbing helmets body armour ect, and the fact that you have 10 different camo patterns.
Pic4: I see nothing wrong here,same webbing,body armour and uniform!

After showing you 5 photos of American troops in war zone with different camo colours and mixed up jackets, I will leave you alone to drink from the bucket of self-delusion water till your tummy is full
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Msauza:
The Jas 39 Gripen radar which is by far superior than the useless Grifo-7 radar.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PS-05/A

The Grifo-7 radar has a weight of 55kg and can only detect objects up to 50km.

The PS-05/A radar has a weight 156kg of and can detect objects up to a whopping 120km.

Gripen has 20 km range missile making the 120 km radar useless.

F-7 has 35 km range missile making the 55 km range radar perfect.

SAAF is dead, k.illed by NAF !
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agaugust:


After showing you 5 photos of American troops in war zone with different camo colours and mixed up jackets, I will leave you alone to drink from the bucket of self-delusion water till your tummy is full
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You showed me only 1 photo where they wore a different colour jacket, and that was in pic 2, and my answer was that it looks piss poor!

Msauza:



The SANDF uniform will still do well in a desert.

Battle tested armies like America and Britain DO NOT wear dark brownie uniform inside yellow sand desert . Mumu
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lezz:
I asked you how much does a Nigerian president earn? I would also love to scrutinize the link of the dead mercenary's wife.

Fact remains mercenaries are rap.ing your money like hell and send it to South Africa to their wives.

Msauza:



Fact remains mercenaries are rap.ing your money like hell and send it to South Africa to their wives.

show me.

agaugust:


Gripen has 20 km range missile making the 120 km radar useless.

F-7 has 35 km range missile making the 55 km range radar perfect.

SAAF is dead, k.illed by NAF !
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Gripen is the best platform for BVR, dummy. Look at gripen in general, the same way I look at F7 in general not only that of Nigeria.


Even the SAAF gripen will defeat your F7 even if we were to arm it with BVR (anyway F7 cannot use BVR). it will detect it first and approach it to its weakest link from behind. You will tell the rest.

agaugust:


Battle tested armies like America and Britain DO NOT wear dark brownie uniform inside yellow sand desert . Mumu
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I told you the technology and art behind the SANDF uniform. It suits well with backgrounds of various environments. It is more like a chameleon.

OF ALL THE GRIFO FAMILY RADARS, THE GRIFO-7 RADAR COMES THE LAST. OTHER ESTABLISHED NATIONS USE THE BETTER GRIFO VARIANTS AND NOT THE CHEAP GRIFO-7 MEANT FOR POOR NATIONS.

Henry120:


They are not all SF forces, and they do not have a single camo like the inefficient SANDF. Every SF/SOF conducts land and sea trainings. Everyone of those listed SF/S0F teams, it is nothing unheard of. I didn't mention the british SBS, I only mentioned SAS.



No, all "SANDF" forces are issued a single camo. Your S.F wear green.

Your MRS is simply a boarding team, even small nations like togo , Seychelles and mauritius all have boarding teams.

Nothing fantastic about them.

Firstly i never said they weren't SFs or SOFs i used SFs as a general term , i said they conduct the same type of operations as our special forces,meaning land and sea!

Our MRS are specially trained for Maritime operations, for example anti Piracy operations! They too have their blue uniform and also their Standard Soldier2000 camo, i posted pics about 2 days ago on your thread.

"No, all "SANDF" forces are issued a single camo. Your S.F wear green."
They have their standard soldier2000 kit aswell as different camo patterns depending on their mission.

http://www.recce.co.za/

Henry120:


They are not all SF forces, and they do not have a single camo like the inefficient SANDF. Every SF/SOF conducts land and sea trainings. Everyone of those listed SF/S0F teams, it is nothing unheard of. I didn't mention the british SBS, I only mentioned SAS.



No, all "SANDF" forces are issued a single camo. Your S.F wear green.

Your MRS is simply a boarding team, even small nations like togo , Seychelles and mauritius all have boarding teams.

Nothing fantastic about them.

Firstly i never said they weren't SFs or SOFs i used SFs as a general term , i said they conduct the same type of operations as our special forces,meaning land and sea!

Our MRS are specially trained for Maritime operations, for example anti Piracy operations! They too have their blue uniform and also their Standard Soldier2000 camo, i posted pics about 2 days ago on your thread.

"No, all "SANDF" forces are issued a single camo. Your S.F wear green."
They have their standard soldier2000 kit aswell as different camo patterns depending on their mission.

http://www.recce.co.za/

agaugust:


Battle tested armies like America and Britain DO NOT wear dark brownie uniform inside yellow sand desert . Mumu
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Seems like its doing a good job to me: