Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Nobody: 4:02pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
TheBlue5: I was reading the CNN news article, that the Igbo could be the lost tribe of Gad.
Wait, wait, 'Could be' you mean they are!?"
Now one of the reporters says that "they lack evidence". Well let me show you evidence!
Argument#1: "The Igbo people started calling themselves Jews in the 18th century, so it's a new theory that they cannot be Jews!"
Well, bible scholars started calling Jesus a Jew in the 18th century as well. In fact the word 'jew' started in the 18th century. Does that mean that Jesus & the Jews in Israel are not Jews? Absolutely Not! In fact the Igbo people use to call themselves Hebrews and not Jews before the 'white' people came, even the slave owners did. The slave owners had a sign they put up that said "Fine...the Heeboes"
Argument# 2: "The Igbo name for 'Eri' does not sound like the Hebrew name for 'Eri'"
Umm haha you do know that the Igbo language and hebrew language are two different languages right? Of course they're not going to sound the same!
Argument#3: "they lack evidence"
HMM
• Evidence # 1:
"Paleo-Hebrew Script has been found in various places in the Igbo Territories of Nigeria."
Paleo-hebrew is Ancient Hebrew language if the Igbo people are not Israelites then how did they get their hands on Paleo-Hebrew Script?
Not convincing? Here is more!
• Evidence #2:
"Drawings like unto the Mogen David, Star of David have been found in various places of Igboland prior to missionary arrival to Nigeria."
If the Igbo are not Israelites then how did they get not one but MANY stars of David in their hands?
Still need some more?
• Evidence #3:
“One scholar who visited Iboland, saw a swastika there and questioned how the Ebos/Hebrews could have this symbol and be Jewish. Sar Amariel answered the question stating, ‘This is an ancient Hebrew symbol that represents the sun…’” – Document: Tabernacle Congregation Prayer Yeshiva to HRM A.E. Chukwuemeka-Eri (Ezerora 34th and KAK Ji Ofor Igbo) King of the Igbos
And indeed swastikas have been found on the reliefs of ancient synagogues in Israel. No wonder the Nazis adopted this symbol to imply they were like the sun and greater that the Star of David."
Need EVEN MORE EVIDENCE?!?!
• Evidence #4 (my favorite):
The Stone Throne at Obu-Gad with the Paleo-Hebrew Inscription at the foot of the throne as well as the onyx stone. It is interesting to note that the stone representing Gad (as well as the other Tribes) in the Priestly shoulder stones was made of onyx, which is black (Ex. 39:6-7). In December 1997 a onyx stone found at the palace of Obu-Gad, the traditional site where Gad’s son Eri settled was found an onyx stone that bore the Paleo-Hebrew inscription “GAD” upon it which the King Solomon Sephardic Federation confirmed the authenticity of the inscription.
This stone throne is reminiscent of Gad’s memorial altar in Joshua chapter 22 in which they did not sacrifice upon but …
In time to come your children might speak unto our children, saying, What have ye to do with the Lord God of Israel? For the Lord hath made Jordan a border between us and you, ye children of Reuben and children of Gad; ye have no part in the Lord: so shall your children make our children cease from fearing the Lord. Therefore we said, Let us now prepare to build us an altar, not for burnt offering, nor for sacrifice: But that it may be a witness between us, and you, and our generations after us, that we might do the service of the Lord before him with our burnt offerings, and with our sacrifices, and with our peace offerings; that your children may not say to our children in time to come, Ye have no part in the Lord. Therefore said we, that it shall be, when they should so say to us or to our generations in time to come, that we may say again, Behold the pattern of the altar of the Lord, which our fathers made, not for burnt offerings, nor for sacrifices; but it is a witness between us and you. – Josh. 22:24b-28
Conclusion: The fact that the word 'Gad' was written in PALEO-HEBREW and not any other language must mean one thing: The biblical Gad and the Igbo 'Gad' are the same people, because this would mean that the word 'Gad' on the onyx stone has the same meaning of the biblical Gad which means "A troop" since both are written in Hebrew.
Now tell me if the Igbo people are not Israelites then how did they get the Paleo-Hebrew script, the Gad onyx stone, and the stars of David!?!?
Need more evidence? Hmm can I slap you? Anyways Here!
• Evidence #5:
In 1917 the British discovered, about 500 feet below the soil on the palace grounds a solid bronze Star of David indicating the Igbo people may have migrated from the ancient city of David. To commemorate this event, Nigerian kobo coins were minted with a Star of David on it.
Hmm if the Igbo are not Israelites then why do the Nigerian kobo coins have the Star of David on them?!?!
• Evidence #6:
Between 1938-1959 Archeologists led by Thurston Shaw at an Igbo-Ukwu excavation near Oaeri town unearthed what is believed to be a mask portraying an Igbo face. Also unearthed were bronze items, pots, bowls, etc., including a pot believed to be used in the coronation of Igbo Kings. Also found were bronze intricate beads that reflected wealth and artistic skill as well as attests to international trade by ancient Igbos. Some archeological dating tests suggest Igbos have occupied Nigeria as early as 3,000 BCE. Radio carbon dating of the objects suggests that Igbos occupied Nigeria before 800 CE. Much of the items found in this excavation seem to have a modified Egyptian design and or influence which would make since seeing as the first Igbo are said to have come from Egypt in the Pre-Exodus-Exodus.
Hmm! Who else came from Egypt other then the Igbo people? Oh yeah! The Israelites! And also apparently the Igbo people were not always in Nigeria since carbon dating says other wise! So, this would debunk the theory that the Igbo were always in Nigeria. Oh and here is another Argument: "The Igbo are a pre-adaminic race"
If you believe that then I suggest that you at least rip off a bunch of pages from your bible mostly from the book of genesis. No one! I mean No one is pre-ADAM God destroyed EVERYTHING and EVERYONE except for Noah and his family and the animals Noah saved! Last time I check Igbo people are humans! And all mordern day humans came from Noah! And Noah came from Adam, there is no such thing as a 'pre-Adam', Adam was the first man, the first human, Eve was the first woman, the SECOND human.
Credits go to www.hebrewigbo.com NICE TRY
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Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Nobody: 4:03pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
This is easily the latest of the rubbish to trash into my recycle bin after a hard day's work today. Nonsense, simple. |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by whitecat2: 4:03pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
Lorrdddd!
Here we go againnnn!!
Inferiority complex is a terrible thing!! 3 Likes |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Tymax(m): 4:05pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
First Egyptians now Jews ![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png) Why can't you settle this once and for all with a DNA test? If you share paternity with present day Jews then you are one of them. Igbos have come again. Seeking glory from another man's history. 1 Like |
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Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Tymax(m): 4:06pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
whitecat2: Lorrdddd!
Here we go againnnn!!
Inferiority complex is a terrible thing!! It's so embarrassing. Why can't Africans accept their pedigree and move on? 1 Like |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Nobody: 4:07pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
What kind of trend is dis? ![undecided](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/undecided.png) 1 Like |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by malater(m): 4:09pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
Please the ancestral father of igbo land is Nri located before awka the capital of Anambra state and not Eri. |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by fragrant(f): 4:09pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
Ok |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by whitecat2: 4:09pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
That's ibo for you. Ibo heard Jews are being airlifted to Israel, and they want to key in. Well let's see when El Al will start airlifting ibos out of Nigeria. Tymax:
It's so embarrassing. Why can't Africans accept their pedigree and move on? 1 Like |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Nobody: 4:11pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
Mortiple: Sorry to tell you that you labored so hard to convince me but could not.
Well I am a full blooded Igbo man, not a JEW MAN. ![undecided](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/undecided.png) ...well don't worry hold ur thoughts.... |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Ralphlauren(m): 4:12pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
whitecat2: Lorrdddd!
Here we go againnnn!!
Inferiority complex is a terrible thing!! Honestly!!! I'm just tired of these ibos. Who did this to them? O ti koja normal. So now these deluded lot want to claim ties to Isreal? Smh!! They are the worst tribe in Nigeria. You see why Kabiyesi had to speak out?? Few years from now, they will be laying claims to Lagos as their state of origin and their ancestral home. Awon oloshi ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) 3 Likes |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by chrisviral(m): 4:12pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
One question though, Why is my hair, Nigerian Like ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by GeneralShepherd(m): 4:13pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
TheBlue5: -Mortiple
I don't think that all Hebrew are Jews there is like 40 million Igbo not all of them can be hebrew I think only those that are from Anambra state are Hebrews, because Eri did not father the Igbo people he mixed in with them and settled in AnAmbra state. Shey if dey insult us, una go begin vex! What the Fvck! How can an African say he is Jewish, this is the height of inferiority complex 1 Like |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Ihuomadinihu: 4:13pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
If you want to deceive a Black man,then hide it in a book. It's very easy to write off this topic,but have you studied our genetics....that people that populate Modern Israel have same genes with people of tropical Africa not just igbos? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Nobody: 4:15pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
You forgot one striking evidence linking igbos n Hebrews, Circumscision.
Igbos circumsized all Igbo males @ a tender age long before the coming of the white man and Christianity 1 Like |
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Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Daresh(f): 4:16pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
This Jew discussion again? Oh my ! I dont particularly care if I'm a Jew or not but there similarities. I have to admit that the hatred of other tribes is a good pointer. Also the migrant nature and business sense of the Igbo is not unlike that of the Jews. Being Jewish is not on my agenda bo, I dey find money |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by chrisviral(m): 4:17pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
Ralphlauren:
Honestly!!! I'm just tired of these ibos.
Who did this to them? O ti koja normal.
So now these deluded lot want to claim ties to Isreal? Smh!!
They are the worst tribe in Nigeria.
You see why Kabiyesi had to speak out?? Few years from now, they will be laying claims to Lagos as their state of origin and their ancestral home. Awon oloshi ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) 2 Likes
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Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by whitecat2: 4:18pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
They think Jewish people are stuppidd. Since they have been crying to be Jews, no one in Israel has paid them any attention, they take them to be some mad people who don't know what they are saying. Ralphlauren:
Honestly!!! I'm just tired of these ibos.
Who did this to them? O ti koja normal. I think they need spiritual bath in the Lagoon Kabiyesi referred to. No jokes!! I'm serious here.
So now these deluded lot want to claim ties to Isreal? Smh!! ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png)
They are the worst tribe in Nigeria. 2 Likes |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Nobody: 4:19pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
Back at it again by proving ancestral Jewishry. The Israelis are in fact not the good type our fellow countrymen should have licked themselves to. |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by 14DUI(m): 4:19pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
Since the Igbos have confirmed where they belong, i.e Isreal, they should start moving back to their motherland.... we don't need a non Nigerians here, we are over-populated already.... Hope Isreal will received their Black brother with both Granade, sorry hands. |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by ezeagu(m): 4:19pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
Here we go again. 3 Likes |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by LAX89(m): 4:20pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
Fulaman198: Netanyahu doesn't like blacks. Look at the way he treats Ethiopian Jews. You are welcome to try it though. Kudos to the Igbos who don't see themselves as Jews. Why was Ivory Coast and Israel the ONLY countries that helped BIAFRANS during the civil war, even when the whole world assisted and helped Nigerian government, and warned Israel NOT to help Biafra? Don't forget, Israel was ONLY 19 years old then, and were still fragile, but they risked everything to help the IGBOs. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Ishilove: 4:20pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
Ihuomadinihu: If you want to deceive a Black man,then hide it in a book. It's very easy to write off this topic,but have you studied our genetics....that people that populate Modern Israel have same genes with people of tropical Africa not just igbos? Majority of those commenting did not even read the op. That's why the blackman isn't progressing. They don't like reading. The post provokes deep thinking and research. The evidences presented here need further investigation. 1 Like |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by jomoh: 4:20pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
bigfrancis21:
It is clear that all Igbo groups did not originate from the same source. The Nri origin of Igboland applies mostly in Anambra state and few descendant communitites in Enugu (i.e Nsukka, Enugwu-Ezike etc) and Delta Igbo (Igbuzo, etc). Imo/Abia people would tell you they did not descend from Nri via Eri but from some where else. If actual DNA tests would be carried out to establish any ancestral connections, no matter how distant they may be, they will be first conducted on Nri males - men from the Nri clan of Anambra state as men pass their Y-chromosome (the male determining chromosome) from father to son to grandson unaltered. Hence the Y-DNA sample of any male picked at random, when tested, would contain an almost preserved copy of his original male ancestor passed down to him from grandfather to father to him unaltered over the years.
The legendary Eri group who settled in Nri may have been an originally Hebrew group that wandered away from Egypt during the time of Hebrew presence in Egypt, when the Hebrews were still originally black, further south and settled in the current Anambra area, where they came in contact with an already existing Igbo-speaking group and over time integrated with the larger community. However, they may have brought with them evidence of their years of stay in Egypt such as Hebrew traditions, Egyptian-like pottery and sculpting i.e. Igbo-ukwu crafts, Igbo Pyramids of Udi which are strikingly similar to the steppe pyramids of egypt - all of which they left behind in Nri and environs and being mnemonics of their time in Egypt. The kingdom of Nri was the Igbo group known to produce priests, who were won't to visit other Igbo areas performing religious rites, similar to the religious roles of the Levite tribe of Israel (the tribe that produced the priests of Israel).
I am not saying Igbos hould claim Jews. It reeks of inferiority. However, there is some possibility that there might be some ancestral connection between ancient hebrews and ancient Igbo of Nri axis. Notice my usage of 'hebrews' and not 'jews'. Modern so-called Jews are not the original hebrews, they are mainly kazahstanis who converted to Judaism in the 12th century. The original hebrews were a black people, as the bible confirms it. Also, science confirms that the first people on earth were blacks, from which other races were born. The bible says that Adam was the first man on earth. He could not have been white since the white gene, which is recessive cannot produce any other race apart from white. However, only 2 black people will come together and produce offsprings that look like other different races. If Adam was so-called white, at what point in the history of man did black people come by? Or are we inferring here that whites are the first people on earth, who gave birth to the black race??
The ancestral connection between Igbos and ancient hebrews isn't inferiority, however it might prove that Igbo are the original form of the Hebrews, before the hebrews mixed up with the persians, etc and lightened over the years. Can someone please sponsor the DNA so that we can ship the confirmed ones back to their place of Origin. We are too much in this country kwa. |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by klax(m): 4:20pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
My people has come again with annoying statement.
Ok we ve heard when some people failed to have shame it always goes this way. There are has never be anytime that it's either BBC, CNN, ALJAZEERAL, SAHARA REPORT, VOA, NEW YORK TIME always discover igbo are Jew.
So no one in Nigeria among our fathers who actually can tell us our origin but news media is that right? So no one can do what other TRIBES in Nigeria did by written their own history and origin with fact and evidence in entire igbo land. Ok ooo you guys may be Jew or Hebrew or whatever good enough but I'm not Jew ok
No offence biko pls I'm just saying I'm not part of that craps. It's not CNN or BBC to tell me such 1 Like |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by kayalla(f): 4:21pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
TheBlue5:
You ask how can there be a 'Gad' in Igbo yet you guys have a place called 'OBU-Gad'
And Obu-Gad just means 'house of Gad' or 'Place of Gad' or 'home of Gad' and how come the current Igbo King believes that all Igbo's are from Israel? He was interviewed by CNN you know... whats the meaning of this ur Gad? re have u been americanized? |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by whitecat2: 4:22pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
You want them to be stateless, cos Israel will never accept them. 14DUI: Since the Igbos have confirmed where they belong, i.e Isreal, they should start moving back to their motherland.... we don't need a non Nigerians here, we are over-populated already.... Hope Isreal will received their Black brother with both Granade, sorry hands. |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by ilovecritics(m): 4:23pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
Mortiple: Sorry to tell you that you labored so hard to convince me but could not.
Well I am a full blooded Igbo man, not a JEW MAN. ![undecided](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/undecided.png) We no fit be Jews, man!!
#FullBloodedIbo #NwaMbaise ![cool](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cool.png) |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by tsdarkside(m): 4:24pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
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Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by gatiano(m): 4:27pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
see levels, see royalty. Royalty not in the sense that they were or kings. The simple and only difference between royalty and peasants is - A person who knows (HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF) his/her father's father, greatgrand father's greatgreatgrandfather to forefathers by names and and intermarriages with maternal's fore parents, knowing their professions (good or bad profession) is who is in reality "A ROYALTY" - A person who does not know past his/her grand parents or great grand parents is a peasant, a common person, among the mass of people (mass of meat), "akojopo awon ......." translation-gathering of...... Masses! KNOW YOUR ANCESTORS! CALL DADDY AND ASK HIM, ASK WHERE THEY CAME FROM ETC. IT IS TIME TO BEGIN TO ASK QUESTIONS, IT IS A QUESTION ERA (AND IT IS SHORT). TheBlue5:
No, did not survive until 1,000 AD here's is the Igbo King lineage
Eri Agulu Engugu 1087-1036 BC Eze Anyiamigbo Ezeora I 1033-958 BC Eze Agwuve Ezeora II 955-895 BC Eze Ojemba Ezeora III 475-388 BC Eze Nochiugo Ezeora IV 387-247 BC Eze Onyeagwanam Ezeora V 242-131 BC Eze Nkwukwu Ezeora VI 130-43 BC Eze Honwagwu Ezeora VII 40 BC-48 AD Eze Aghaegbulem Ezeora VIII 50-144 AD Eze Akadigbo Ezeora IX 147-238 AD Eze Okwuatu-Egwu Ezeora X 239-309 AD Eze Ugam Ezeora XI 315-394 AD Eze Gbujie Ezeora XII 398-452 AD Eze Ilora Ezeora XIII 495-553 AD Eze Dibie Olome Ezeora XIV 555-655 AD Eze Gbukamadu Ezeora XV 657-733 AD Eze Echiebuke Ezeora XVI 737-827 AD Eze Onamadianyi Ezeora XVII 831-913 AD Eze Nwaukpala Ezeora XVIII 916-1001 AD Eze Kwutulumuj Ezeora XIX 1007-1095 AD Eze Idumba Ofomeke Ezeora XX 1100-1176 AD Eze Adidiesi Ezeora XXI 1177-1240 AD Eze Nwaesi Idu Ezeora XXII 1246-1310 AD Eze Obanaidu Ezeora XXIII 1313-1367 AD Eze Chinweze Ezeora XXIV 1370-1446 AD Eze Nwaokpalaora Ezeora XXV 1448-1530 AD Eze Ezem Ezeora XXVI 1534-1608 AD Eze Ezechi Ezeora XXVII 1613-1684 AD Eze Ezemailo Ezeora XXVIII 1691-1752 AD Eze Erimeli Ezeora XXIX 1760-1820 AD Eze Ogodougbo Ezeora Bleep 1826-1860 AD Eze Mabam Ezeora XXXI 1866-1910 AD Eze Ekwo/Eze Chizor Ezeora XXXII 1958-1968 AD Eze Chiezie Ejorh Ezeora XXXIII 1976 AD-Present Eze A.E. Chukwuemeka-Eri Ezeora XXXIIV
Notice how it starts with a random guy named 'Eri' you guys were here before Jesus according to the King lineage |