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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 5:09pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
agaugust:How? Ever heard about suppression? Your soldiers will have their heads down. Suppressed! While the enemy manoeuvres to deliver the coup de grace. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 5:13pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
Henry120:Vs 1 R4 and 12 plus mags! Your soldiers under fire will run to the truck after every minute? No buddy kit and no water. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jpphilips(m): 5:22pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
author=lezz post=32519089] Alright,slowpoke, I'm back dealing with your question by numerical order. Finally after days of Expo, Lezz has finally decided to appeal to the kola nut in his skull No. 1----- the BBC reports that president Jonathan who happened to be the ECOWAS president, after an emergency meeting in Abuja, officially recognised the prime minister as the president-ellect and demanded the gbagbo government to step down. Jonathan also offered him refuge in Nigeria and gave him an option of military action or peacefully handing over. What's more , The West African central Bank blocked gbagbo from accessing funds of Ivory Coast. www.bbc.com/news/world -africa-12077298 Where does it say that Ivory coast was "BLACKLISTED" from ECOWAS Dont you know what Blacklist means? Show me where blacklist was written in that article. This was your initial comment, "During the ivory coast presidential issues, ecowas had already asked gbabo to step down and blacklisted his government from ecowas. Military intervention was being discussed on the table." You can neither curse nor lie your way out of this one, so try harder. No 2----- You demon of the internet, I never said ghadafi PREDICTED the disintegration of Nigeria because of the united Africa nonsense . This was your original statement, you cannot bamboozle anyone cooking up theories and non quintessential elements, "Ghadafi as one of the oldest and wealthiest African leaders has asked for the au to morph into a single country with him as president. I showed you that Nigeria was not the only country that kicked against his plan and you made another statement "At the heat of ghadafi's ouster in the Libyan civil war, Nigeria wanted ghadafi out because of his expansionist agenda in west Africa. Viewing Nigeria as a threat to this plan, he has called for the disintegration of Nigeria. Consequently Nigeria was the first country in Africa to officially recognise the rebel fighters Now prove to this honorable house that Ghaddafi called for the disintegration of Nigeria because we did not support his expansionist agenda? NO.3---- many Nigerian doctors are practicisng in Saudi Arabia which isn't a proof of any indication in that country. Quite unlike south Africa who clearly lacks the required quantity of qualified medical doctors to fill in there general hospitals. Now that you agree that professional migration has nothing to do with how efficient a system is, do you have the statistics of doctors in SA vs Nigeria to know who is lacking? I rather debate on the facts than on mere speculation. No.4----- You keep embarrassing people unfortunate enough to bear your cursed name. It was a movement that people came together to agree then implement, the only question therein is; who was the first AU chairman? the onus is on me to make the connection between the first AU chairman and the AU brainchild, right? so tell us, who was the first AU chairman?? No. 5----- France was bluffing and never threatened. You are a foolish kid. I followed that event very well and the Nigerian army dealt with the Cameroonian gamdems. And our defence minister said this famous quote " Nigeria will walk into Cameroon, France or no France" that was when Cameroon RAN to the ICJ. Why did Cameroon initiate the court proceedings if she really trust France to attack? You are a certified, bona fide dummy. You have every right to retract any of your initial claims and apologise for misinforming the house, however, let me quickly remind you what you said. "Bakassi was settled legally by the international court. Nigeria led by example and didn't use her might to swallow Cameroon" You claimed we led by example by handing over the peninsular and I countered that position and gave proof that France threatened Nigeria, since your proof is implying that France threatened Nigeria as well, will you now retract that "leading by example nonsense" and apologize to the house for misinformation? with Total oil and other billion dollar investment in Nigeria, FRANCE CANNOT ATTACK . I will educate you here when you have answered all the questions No.6-----i said West Africa and not Africa The book you presented as evidence that France is not happy with Nigeria's hegemony in west Africa was written by prof Yomi Akinyeye, who by profession is not a French politician, neither does he have experience in Nigerian military, hence, what you read was a "Personal opinion" of Yomi, and he is not an authority to speak the mind of the French. I really dont want to believe that your barrage of insolence here is fuelled by a pseudo intelligence founded on Yomi's "personal thoughts", when I asked you for a proof, I wanted to see where the French made the claim themselves. Showing me Yomi's personal opinion is as good as your online vituperations, totally unacceptable. Show us where the French claim they are unhappy with Nigeria's hegemony in West Africa, kindly elucidate the Hegemonies, such an ambigious word will not lead us to a tangible outcome, I am still waiting. NO7----- where did i make that very assertion? you walking failure in human form. I told you this; "AU has proved with Libya, Ivory coast and Mali that they are an unserious organisation, do you expect serious countries to be active in an unserious organization? AU is meant for unserious countries like Nigeria not Egypt". And you replied thus; you asked why Egypt has remained passive in AU, well not only Egypt but all of north Africa are essentially middle eastern!!! My question is this; Since Egypt is an active AU member but remained passive in her affairs, yet a formidable force in the Arab league, don't you think it is because AU is an unserious Organization for serious countries like Egypt?? The Final question is this; Compare the Nigerian first Ebola case with the United states first Ebola case? It was borne out of this statement; "You said we are not suppose to get Ebola, blah blah blah. That no screening whatsoever at the airports. Should I remind you late sawyer was a diplomat who came into Nigeria officially? How did Ebola got into mighty USA or even Spain?" Since you are confident to compare apple with oranges, tell us what you know about the two events? remember, you are free to retract any un verifiable statement you made in the past, & apologise to the house for mis informing us. From your posture and litrary language, you are a struggling student who should be busy with homework and cautious to know if you can obtain a degree. Why do we need to throw tantrums when you can easily crush me with your facts? I look forward to the next round of tutelage from the self acclaimed academician, I am patiently waiting for my answers!! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jl115: 5:32pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
Is been confirmed!!!!! It was the German Navy that fired on the fishing boat!!! The original article was in German!! I used Google Translate to translate the text into english thus it sounds abit re.tarded,Those who understand German are welcome to read the original article: http://www.focus.de/politik/deutschland/man-konnte-das-schiesspulver-riechen-deutsches-kriegsschiff-versenkt-beinahe-motorboot_id_4576060.html Translated(Quite a few language errors): "An uninvolved fishing boat came into the crosshairs of a German warship. Off the coast of South Africa has targeted a frigate and almost sunk the boat. The cause was apparently a mix up in an exercise. A warship of the Bundeswehr has almost sunk a fishing boat during an exercise in South Africa. As the "Mirror", citing a German bloggers, as well as the South African news portal "iol.com" reports. The boat was just missed at the accidental attack. Bundeswehr does not respond to radio message When naval "Good Hope" frigates "Hessen" and were "Karlsruhe" involved. One of the ships should have shot the innocent fishing boat, so "mirror". The warship is eight meters long have confused "Arctic" with a shared drone to shoot the Bundeswehr. The fishing boat was then given an emergency call. Although the Bundeswehr terminated the fire, but responded to the statements of states that "mirror" not on the radio message. In an interview, the captain of the "Arctic" by three bullets spoke. 10 to 15 meters, they should have taken alongside the boat. "That was so close that we could smell the gunpowder and have been ringing my ears," the magazine quoted the captain." |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:34pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
agaugust:Used on: - F-5E/F - Mirage III - L-159 - F-7 (Chinese-built MiG-21bis) Wow - so impressive |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:35pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
agaugust: You lost 15 000 and 1,6 million displaced Your useless army cannot stop genocide in your own back yard |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:36pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
agaugust: This guy thinks war is a computer game He knows nothing about fire-superiority and fire-and-maneuver Lol and he claims to be a military researcher!! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:38pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
agaugust: Nigeria has never used tanks in tank v tank combat These woman can manage to wear their overalls and not get heat stroke Why cant your men? Are they inferior to South African women?
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jl115: 5:44pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
Another German source that confirms it was the German Navy and not the SAN that fired on the Fishing boat: South African-German naval maneuvers: Fishing boat almost sunk (with correction) T.Wiegold March 27, 2015 · | 39 Comments http://augengeradeaus.net/2015/03/suedafrikanisch-deutsches-seemanoever-fischerboot-fast-versenkt/ "When artillery firing during joint South African-German Seemanövers Good Hope off the coast of South Africa, a fishing boat was nearly sunk. Obviously, a good eight meters long boat had been confused with a remote-controlled drones over water, which are used for target representation. According to the German Navy is still unclear whether the errant shots of a German ship or a ship of the South African Navy yet. (Correction for new information: ) The shooting was organized according to the German Navy only by German units; South African ships were not involved. As part of the German Operations and Training Association Hesse took the frigates (photo above) and Karlsruhe part in the exercise, which ends on (today) Friday. About the shots on the fishing boat last Wednesday the captain of the Arctic South African media had reported in detail: Skipper Anthony Day Said he Believed the warship thought his 28-foot ski boat which one of the small radio-controlled vessels taking part and Which are blown up in the naval exercise. (...) At sea he saw a ship approaching slowly. "All of a sudden thesis three shots went off in very quick succession. They landed about 15 to 20 meters in front of me. "It was so close We could smell the gunpowder and so loud my ears ringing werewolf. The crew werewolf panicking. The German Navy had announced on Wednesday that it had taken place after the artillery shooting of the German Association of a cry for help on a marine radio distress frequency. Meanwhile ordered Marine Inspector Andreas Krause an inquiry to: Meanwhile, there are increasing indications that there might be a connection between the artillery shooting and the cry for help. Meanwhile in South Africa was adjacent to the operator of the ski-Boats "Arctic" that a warship had shot in the early morning of March 25 2015 toward his boat with naval artillery. People were not injured. His boat is also intact. The "Arctic" was at that time in the vicinity of the Operations and Training Association of the German Navy. The Chief of the Navy has therefore immediately instructed investigation into the facts." 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 5:52pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
jl115:"Well played old chap" |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 5:54pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
Patchesagain:Heard someone yesterday saying the SA army doesn't olive green uniform. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jl115: 5:57pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
MikeCZAR:We obviously knew it all along it was just a case of proving it with a German Source!! 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 5:59pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
jl115: That post has disappointed agaugust and Henry. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:35pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: Nigeria had NO mandate to deploy 15,000 troops with tanks, artillery, jet fighters, landing ships and frigates to Liberia and Sierra Leone, Nigeria just did it with $10 billion cash cost to Nigerians , your South Africa will NEVER pay that sacrifice to help any African brother that is suffering.....reason why SANDF ran away from C.A.R and you people give excuse that you have no mandate to save human lives in a helpless and dying African nation. You Southies won't enter heaven o ! You no fear God one bit ! . 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:42pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: Nigeria is still in Sudan. Nigerian army stopped massive genocidal murder and massive räpe of black civilians in Sudan. The war is Sudan is over, Nigeria stopped it with military muscle and spilled blood of Nigerian soldiers soaked the thirsty dry land of Sudan....while South African army was watching the show on Tv from safe distance in Pretoria city . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 6:43pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
Patchesagain: What bloody heat are you talking about? Tell me one region in South Africa that averages 50 degrees celcius at all times during the year? Imagine your hopeless models posing and enjoying the South African Winter in overalls ... no wonder you never last in a fight anywhere outside South Africa. Park well. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 6:56pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
jl115: Desperate times! Read above what I have boldened from the weak translation of the German article. ==== "According to the German Navy is still unclear whether the errant shots of a German ship or a ship of the South African Navy". ====== This statement leaves more questions to be asked!! If it wasn't the South Africa National Defence Force, it shouldn't take over two weeks to clarify who took the misfired shots. What does it take SAN Defence Force spokesperson to say Germany fired the shots? SANDF and incompetence ... very synonymous!! Walahi faa! 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 7:00pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
agaugust: Tell dem!!! 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jl115: 7:01pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
NaijaPikinGidi:Read the Bold: "When artillery firing during joint South African-German Seemanövers Good Hope off the coast of South Africa, a fishing boat was nearly sunk. Obviously, a good eight meters long boat had been confused with a remote-controlled drones over water, which are used for target representation. According to the German Navy is still unclear whether the errant shots of a German ship or a ship of the South African Navy yet. (Correction for new information: ) The shooting was organized according to the German Navy only by German units; South African ships were not involved. As part of the German Operations and Training Association Hesse took the frigates (photo above) and Karlsruhe part in the exercise, which ends on (today) Friday. About the shots on the fishing boat last Wednesday the captain of the Arctic South African media had reported in detail: Skipper Anthony Day Said he Believed the warship thought his 28-foot ski boat which one of the small radio-controlled vessels taking part and Which are blown up in the naval exercise. (...) At sea he saw a ship approaching slowly. "All of a sudden thesis three shots went off in very quick succession. They landed about 15 to 20 meters in front of me. "It was so close We could smell the gunpowder and so loud my ears ringing werewolf. The crew werewolf panicking. The German Navy had announced on Wednesday that it had taken place after the artillery shooting of the German Association of a cry for help on a marine radio distress frequency. Meanwhile ordered Marine Inspector Andreas Krause an inquiry to: Meanwhile, there are increasing indications that there might be a connection between the artillery shooting and the cry for help. Meanwhile in South Africa was adjacent to the operator of the ski-Boats "Arctic" that a warship had shot in the early morning of March 25 2015 toward his boat with naval artillery. People were not injured. His boat is also intact. The "Arctic" was at that time in the vicinity of the Operations and Training Association of the German Navy. The Chief of the Navy has therefore immediately instructed investigation into the facts."
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:02pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
patches689: Okay, you now admit that South Africa's nuclear weapons have expired. All that remains is the half decayed plutonium, how does your air force fly that to enemy territory for attack, by using Jacob Zuma's V.I.P. luxury aircraft? 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:31pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
Patchesagain: 3 mags, 5 mags, all will be used up in sustained fire fight, soldiers will still run out of ammo, the key is supply chain for every unit, even battalions on frontline run out of ammunition. Army field supply chain is more important than extra 2 mags per man. War can last for years, battles can last for months . 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:37pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
Msauza: Dundee There's big difference between having some half decayed nuclear materials and having a real nuclear weapon that can be deployed in war. Today, South Africa has NO nuclear weapon to harm any enemy . 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 7:38pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
NaijaPikinGidi: The German warship captain is the one who shot at the ship of fishermen. Dummy!!! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 7:45pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
jpphilips:You are a walking-dead fighting a lost course . Funny how you raise questions I never asked and responding to what you assumed was my meaning. You are asking questions based on what YOU TAUGHT I MEANT. What a waste of humanity you are!! You want the word "blacklist" to be found in the source that has quoted ecowas excutives asking gbagbo to hand over power or face military action. A source which has revealed the West African Central Bank blocked gbagbo from accessing state funds. You have so much in common with your South African friends: shameless denial, enemy of truth. You're a little minded, petty troll who has been exposed as a carrier-troll. You know so little. keep rephrasing your questions as I flush you into the sewer pipes where you belong. A WHO certfied schizophrenic toad like you have the imbecility to question Prof Yemi because we have cheap internet these days. Son, you have been knocked out of the ring. you don't have the muscular facts and literary skills anymore to put up a fight. If you want to be a negative Nigerian critic, then arm yourself with a little knowledge, not blind rage. You never knew Libya invaded and tried to occupy northern Chad. You never knew Ghadafi was the brainchild of the AU You never knew the French was uncomfortable with Nigeria's West Africa leadership. You're just a pretentious gay South African lover. You're not qualified to be here. you are a gate-crashing local champion. I have witnessed you being whooped on other threads as well so you and mediocrity never seem to part company. Next. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 7:52pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
agaugust: Who said SA has nuclear weapons? Oops!! I forgot that Dummies should always have to be taught carefully because they are slow learners. We have said that SA has nuclear weapons fuel to can use anytime should they want to become nuclear power state again. The fuel was melted down and casted in ingots, then staffed into former silver vaults. It is perfectly safe to be reused again. Bwahahahaha!!! Does SA nuclear weapon fuel make you scared that we have enough to make six big atomic bombs to destruct the whole of Nigeria? Since you live in a country with no mines, you might not know what is an ingot. This might help you http://spaceengineers.wikia.com/wiki/Uranium_Ingot GET IT!!! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by overhypedsteve(m): 8:28pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
Patchesagain:Bros when you talk sometimes you ignore some variables on the tables. what is average temperature in South africa and what is the temperature in the Sahara desert and Guinea savanna region. or is your knowledge of Geography inferior to that of Augugust? or whoever it is you were arguing with. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:05pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: You deep sh1t liar. Your troops are issued 7 rounds of Mags top. I have enough evidence of SANDF troops running around with 3/4 mags. A Nigerian soldier under fire can get fire support from the M.G, 12.7mm, 30mm or 30mm from the sky. It's one of the perks of having over 40 MI-35 Helicopters to call in. Dicon Produces camel backs which are issued to troops or can be gotten from various military stores. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:12pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
jl115: Your MRS is a VBSS team, no different. Even Somalia has these. Your inefficient defence ministry only issues as single Cammo type to your HIV ridden troops. Proper militaries across the world have different types of Cammo for different terrains. The Americans, brits, Nigerians, indians, turks, pakistanis. Nigeria operates the multi-terrain cammo, Woodland Desert. Your SF only have a primary green cammo. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jl115: 9:17pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
overhypedsteve: The following are considered the 2 hottest places in SA and Nigeria Letaba (Limpopo) :Average yearly high: 35C Max:50 Upingto(Northern Cape) :Average yearly high: 33C Max: 43 Abuja :Average yearly high:33.03C Max: 42 Sokoto :Average yearly high:33.2C Max:47.2 Highest temperature ever recorded South Africa: 53C Richtersveld Nigeria :47.2 Sokoto |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by xwolverine: 9:31pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
Msauza: Funny analogy...its like saying Nigeria can afford 100 units of Rafale Jets if they decided to buy. Because in real sense, the country has the money, but would they splash out on Rafales? Maybe, maybe not, the answer is subjective. Your logic falls flat in the face of objectivity, the question is not about capability but can SA afford it? Are they willing to invest in it? which i doubt considering the fact that the SA budget cannot accommodate crucial air-freight planes for the military and luxury vip jets at a time. Stop this act of chest beating, the issue is not about ingot, because as at 21:28 GMT 9th of April 2015, SA doesn't have nuclear warheads. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jl115: 9:39pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
Henry120:Our MRS are parachute qualified,Dive qualified, and do joint land operations with our Army.Thus they are much more versatile than a VBSS. "Nigeria operates the multi-terrain cammo, Woodland Desert. " Jap ,to bad you operate Woodland camo in desert operations! "Proper militaries across the world have different types of Cammo for different terrains. The Americans, brits, Nigerians, indians, turks, pakistanis." The US ARMY uses only the UCP-Delta camo pattern! the other patterns you posted are from other branches of the military exp:USAF,USN and SF/SOF units, our Airforce and Navy have different uniforms than our Army and our SFs also have different camo depending on their mission. "Your SF only have a primary green cammo." Nope!! their standard camo as i said before is Soldier2000 camo,and change depending on their mission as i proved with the photos i posted: |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jl115: 9:48pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
xwolverine:"Funny analogy...its like saying Nigeria can afford 100 units of Rafale Jets if they decided to buy. Because in real sense, the country has the money, but would they splash out on Rafales? Maybe, maybe not, the answer is subjective" Uhm.....NO!Its nothing like this: We have the material and technology it would cost us much much less to manufacture nuclear warheads than what it would cost Nigeria. Its like buy 100 Rafales but you already have all the air-frames!if i have to use your example. "SA budget cannot accommodate crucial air-freight planes for the military and luxury vip jets at a time." Firstly buying transports falls into the Defece budget, which by the way is only 1% of our GDP. Secondly its all ready been budgeted for, so yes we are getting transports in the next 2-3 years. Lastly our National treasury is much larger than Nigerias, thus we can afford many more weapons than Nigeria if we really wanted to! |
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