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Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by phreakabit(m): 8:30pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
Not this BS again?! We are IGBO and thats it! Being Jew has no added benefit. Its shameful how some of you are going overboard to prove this humongous hoax of a theory. 1 Like |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by macof(m): 8:33pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
Ihuomadinihu: And how many fulani living in West Africa have had direct contact with Eurasia? Fulaman - a very cultural fulani man would disagree with you heavily all those messed up sites u get this from are certainly playing you Be very careful, African history is beautiful on its own, this ur inferiority complex is irritating all this internet links u see need to be heavily scrutinised That's how they try to caucasianise fulani and the Mali empire A Negro people like Yoruba and Mandika cannot have a non-Negro gene type. It's simple biology Our genetical make up cannot be found from Eurasia rather Eurasians would look to us Negro for the origin of their genes |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by ezeagu(m): 8:34pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
LAX89: France sent Doctors without Borders, and I believe many of the priests that were in the camps were French. They helped. I already know much of what you wrote. However to imply Israel was selflessly helping Biafra is also incorrect. The Egyptian government was helping the Nigerians so it may have been seen as another frontier or proxy battle between the Jews and the Egyptians. Furthermore, the rhetoric about how the Igbo people being slaughtered and hence treated like the 'Jews of Africa' lead to Israel's sympathy, especially against a largely Islamic state, and coming from genocide 20 years prior. It is this help that has lead to a lot of fanatical support of Israel by a few Igbo people, while the Israeli's themselves don't really much care. Oil was also recently discovered in Biafra. The so called emissaries from Israel who come to investigate 'Igbo Jews' are more than likely coming to inspect prime territory and resources that they can cut into in this easily exploited continent. It would work almost completely in Israel's favour and Israel's favour alone for the Igbo people to believe them their fathers and convert to Judaism, that would be the soft power they need to secure a richly resourced piece of Africa, just like other major religions had tactically done, hence the missionaries. If this is not the case, again, why is there no question as to whether Israel descended from Igboland instead? Why is that out of the question? There you have it. 2 Likes |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Tushborn: 8:37pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
if u ar frm israel or not what does it benefit u guyz lost tribe non sense |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by macof(m): 8:38pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
Ihuomadinihu: You seek your origin in the wrong place What happened to going to your village and seeking knowledge from elders? you look to Hebrews and u say you are studying Igbo history.. |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by macof(m): 8:41pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
LAX89: didnt u post that Israel supporting Biafra suggests a connection?? |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Nobody: 8:46pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
A Shabbat service is underway at the Ghihon Hebrew Research synagogue in the Jikwoyi suburb of Nigeria's federal capital territory. Fourteen year-old Kadmiel Izungu Abor heads there with his family. They walk alongside stray goats on a road covered in red dust and potholes, lined with open sewage. They are nearly 20 kilometers away from the modern multi-story office buildings and sprawling mansions in Nigeria's capital city of Abuja. About 50 people gather in the synagogue. They pray from the Siddur, they read from the Torah and as they chant, Abor's mellow alto begins to rise. In a country of 162 million people tensions often lead to violent uprisings between Christians and Muslims and being part of the religious minority can be an issue. But Abor wears his kippah and his identity with pride. "I am a Jewish Igbo," he says. The Igbo are one of Nigeria's largest ethnic groups with population estimates ranging from 20 to 50 million. Abor is convinced that the Igbo's ancestors were Jews. "The son of Yaakov, Jacob, [was] Gad and I learned that he was among those people who went out of Israel to exile," Abor says. "So from there he had a son called Eri and a son gave birth to a son called Aguleri and that's how the Igbo race began." From generation to generation, some Igbo have passed down various versions of a migration story framed around Jacob, a patriarch of Judaism. A popular version of the narrative holds that Gad, the seventh son of Jacob, had three sons who settled in present-day southeastern Nigeria, which is predominantly inhabited by the Igbo. Those sons, Eri, Arodi and Areli (as mentioned in the book of Genesis), are said to have fathered clans, established kingdoms and founded towns still in existence in southeastern Nigeria today, including Owerri, Umuleri, Arochukwu and Aguleri. Read More: The forgotten story of Zambia's Jewish settlers Eze A.E. Chukwuemeka Eri, the king of a community in Aguleri, claims he presides over the throne of Gad's son, Eri. Wearing a white shirt with the Star of David stitched on the front, King Eri points to a calendar on the wall of his palace that lists the names of his 33 predecessors. He has no doubts that Eri is his ancestor. He has even acquired land to establish an educational center for the study of Jewish culture. "Israelites and Igbos are brothers," he says with a broad smile. King Eri, like many, claims that the Igbo are the Jews of West Africa. They believe they are descendants of at least one of Israel's lost tribes. In the eighth century B.C. the Assyrians invaded Israel's northern kingdom forcing 10 tribes into exile. Historians say it is not unlikely that these tribes migrated westward to Africa. Throughout history, large populations of dispersed Jews also became "lost" through forced conversions and cultural assimilation. "There is evidence that is scientific that the Igbos descended from the people that evolved in Israel," says Remy Ilona. He began investigating the stories from his youth more than a decade ago. "When I grew up I heard, like virtually every Igbo here, that the Igbo people came from Israel," the Abuja-based lawyer says. His field work in Nigeria, Chad, Niger and Mali led him to conclude that Igbo and Jewish culture are not just similar, but "identical." In his latest book, Ilona draws parallels between Igbo rituals and customs and those practiced by Jews. Shared traditional practices include circumcising male children eight days after birth, refraining from eating "unclean" or tabooed foods, mourning the dead for seven days, celebrating the New Moon and conducting wedding ceremonies under a canopy. Some historians have noted that the Igbo were practicing these customs before their exposure to the Bible and missionaries. Daniel Lis, from the Institute for Jewish Studies, University of Basel, Switzerland, is one of the foremost researchers on Jewish identification among the Igbo. He says there has been a clear continuity of Jewish identity among the Igbo. "It's not just something that happened yesterday," he says. The Swiss-Israeli anthropologist says that Igbo- Jewish identity can be traced back to the 18th century. Cross-cultural comparisons have been documented by people ranging from George Thomas Basden, the influential Anglican missionary and ethnographer who proposed that the word "Igbo" evolved as a corruption of the word "Hebrew," to Olaudah Equiano, a freed Igbo slave living in 18th century British society. The oral stories and historic notations of cultural resemblances between the Igbo and the Jews have proven compelling enough to lure a diverse array of people to southeastern Nigeria. Michael Freund, an American Jew based in Israel, is planning his first trip to Nigeria to get a first-hand look at the culture of the Igbo. "I've read about them but of course there is nothing like actually hearing the stories of the people themselves," he says. Discovering "lost" Jewish communities around the world is what Freund does. He is the founder and chairman of the independent non-profit organization Shavei Israel. According to its media spokesperson Arik Puder, Shavei Israel is the only organization in Israel that focuses on finding descendants of the legendary lost tribes. He says the Israeli government does not recognize ethnic communities in various countries claiming to be descendants of lost tribes. "They cannot prove that they have a Jewish grandfather or grandmother," Puder says. "But they do have an interesting story." Freund says he has received numerous letters and emails from Nigerians trying to connect to Israel. But with a rising number of groups around the world attempting to link their ancestry to the ancient Israelites, he is aware that some of those claims are "wishful thinking." He hopes that the future will yield strong genetic evidence to help the search for the lost tribes. "As DNA technology improves there will be a growing stock of scientific evidence which can perhaps buttress the claims of an Israeli ancestry," he says. A 2012 documentary called "Re-Emerging: The Jews of Nigeria" featured the country's Jewish community. The film featured Rabbi Howard Gorin. He retired from the congressional rabbinate in 2012 after 32 years as the spiritual leader of a Jewish congregation in the U.S. state of Maryland. Gorin has played a significant role in the rise of Judaism in Nigeria since his first trip to the country in 2004. "I embrace them and support them as brothers and sisters," he says. He ships books on Judaism to synagogues in Nigeria... source: www.cnn.com/2013/02/01/world/africa/nigeria-jews-igbo/ |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by macof(m): 8:58pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
Ihuomadinihu: Ancestors of Igbos share DNA with ancestors of Koreans and anybody you can think of, because all humans share DNA ancestry..such that the modern Negro...particularly the Khoisan have retained most of it Negros didn't collect DNA from non-Negros It's caucasians who should be looking to us for history and DNA ancestry 1 Like |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Ihuomadinihu: 9:04pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
macof:I can't remember writing that Subsaharan Africans have cacausoid genes apart from few exception concerning back tracking genes. My friend,some genes mutated and evolved outside Africa! |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by uduokirika1(m): 9:04pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
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Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by gatiano(m): 9:06pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
You and this your haploid things sha that does not make a single sense. oyibo just dey happy as they dey use your brains play trumpet. I don't mean that in abusive way. However you can abuse back if you feel offended. i won't be too mad. Ihuomadinihu: 1 Like |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Ihuomadinihu: 9:07pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
macof:So that they will tell you of a foreigner that fell from the Sky? We are looking at how gene similarity represent a common ancestor. You can read up works of established African historians like Clyde Winters and Diop Cheik. |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by macof(m): 9:09pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
bdidi: Intellectual discourse?? Calling Yoruba Hebrews without a single evidence or logic to it, is intellectual where you come from? anyway I made no racist comment, I am probably the least racist person you can hope to know Oh pls mention Yoruba as much as you like but not to insult my ancestors by calling them Hebrews...that's like saying we Yoruba don't know our origins and where we come from 1 Like |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Ihuomadinihu: 9:10pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
macof:You are tending to be Afrocentrist. Why do the black people of Asia posses non African genes? Have you heard of out of Africa? Because we are comfortable with this sub saharan tag,that is why whites will claim that ancient founding fathers of Egypt were Cacausoid. Africa does not stop in subsaharan Africa. Have you heard about the Maa civilization, Nabata civilization,Ounanian Niger congo people, Capsian people of the sahara region. Have you heard that the oldest Ceremics in the world/Africa was created by Niger congo people. Spare me the Rubbish! |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by macof(m): 9:13pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
Ihuomadinihu:There's still more genetic connection between Abraham and Arabs than Eri and Hebrews Abraham being from Ur was a Semite, same as Arabs who came from the same region in large numbers |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by macof(m): 9:14pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
k2kay: I know Semitic traditions state that people lived longer before the legendary flood How would this relate to Aguleri having 34ezes in 3000years It's not too good to be true..it's actually too disgusting and moronic to be true 1 Like |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Ihuomadinihu: 9:17pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
gatiano:Why would i abuse you,when black African scientist have conducted their own research. This is not an exclusive oyibo thing,biko! I even have the time to respond! |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Ihuomadinihu: 9:21pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
macof:What is Abraham's dna,lol? What is Aaron's dna? Lol. Abraham's Ur precedes Arabs. |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by atakamus: 9:23pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
I be Igbo and a well trained Historian. Even if our ancestors might be Jews, we better be the Igbo that we know that to go and claim Jews we don't know or can we effectively substantiate it. Thanks I be Igbo. 1 Like |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Neplusultra(f): 9:24pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
aim5:Kai!! See as e take pain am ![]() ![]() |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by macof(m): 9:26pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
Ihuomadinihu:Lmao ![]() Such back tracking genes are berbers certainly not Pure Negro-congoid like Igbo and Yoruba every human being has an African derived gene, it's simple biology |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Ihuomadinihu: 9:29pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
macof:Pls stop quoting me and go and read up the Human haplogroups. Simple biology insists that a back tracking gene is different from it's original family. Yes such genes are not yoruba or Igbo. Argue from today to tomorrow,you are still not reasonable. |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by macof(m): 9:40pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
Ihuomadinihu: This is why you need to ask them in your village if it's true Eri came from the sky as some websites propagate or he came from Igala as books on Igbo history claim or he came from Israel as you claim Don't trust website over the word of your ancestors as passed down through generations Before internet there was the brain and the ability of memory and speech But I don't know if the Eze nri can say on public television that odinani and judaism are the same (I watched it, with an Igbo interpreting what he was saying) No scientist knows my DNA better than my ancestors and if they say am not Hebrew then am not Hebrew How am I even sure such DNA research was done? U haven't provided the research institute and the geneticists that carried out the assignment like plaetton requested 1 Like |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by broswilli: 9:43pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
Why do people put so much emphasis on things that cannot be proven. Abraham himself was referred to as a Hebrew. That simply means that the Hebrews existed before Abraham which simply implies that so many tribes can be linked to being hebrews because Abraham is a father of many Nations both spiritually and Physically |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by macof(m): 9:46pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
Ihuomadinihu: are any of them Africans who lived in Africa and went round African savannahs interviewing Kings, priests and commoners alike? If not their work is not reliable |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Ihuomadinihu: 9:51pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
macof:Same kings that do not know their history other than coming from the sky. Time for sleep!! Maybe when you read and study the origin of Niger congo people,may be you will stop ranting! |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by absoluteSuccess: 9:51pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
Ihuomadinihu : Who cares? The men i learn from areGood to know, keep submitting my dna everywhere you like. Come up with an interpretation of my dna to make 'the holy grail of Yoruba history' from in years to come. If not, your labour for pittsburg-man and your neandathal-dna recess is in vain. |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Nobody: 9:51pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
Neplusultra: Typical Igbo bit.ch haha instead of you guys trying to claim that you're God's chosen ones, why don't you all humble yourselves and cooperate with others, maybe then your people wouldn't receive this much animosity. |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by macof(m): 9:55pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
Ihuomadinihu: Lmao DNA DNA DNA ![]() I am not talking about timeline, I am talking about origin from the same region |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by macof(m): 9:55pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
Ihuomadinihu: And am telling you those back tracking genes aren't present in either Igbo or Yoruba |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by Ihuomadinihu: 9:55pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
macof:Igbos don't have a history of coming from the sky. Am talking of Oduduwa,lol. This is not about Websites,it's about the human dna tree. It is difficult to look for the links? I guess i have to spoon feed you. Come on,type and browse Human Y dna. Can you remember all you were taught in Primary 5. Oral recollection of history is insufficent. 1 Like |
Re: Somebody Tell Benjamin Netanyahu That Igbo Are The Lost Tribe Of Gad! by macof(m): 9:56pm On Apr 09, 2015 |
Ihuomadinihu: Lmao DNA DNA DNA ![]() I am not talking about timeline, I am talking about origin from the same region |
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