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Islam And Exorcism by earTHMama: 5:57pm On Dec 18, 2008 |
How do muslims cast demons out from a demon possessed Islamic faithful?. What method do they use to exorcise demons in the Islamic faith? How successful is their method from your own opinion?. have you witnessed or taken part in it? |
Re: Islam And Exorcism by Jarus(m): 6:59pm On Dec 18, 2008 |
I have witnessed. I have also heard directly from Islamic scholar that specializes in it. Till today, one thing that keeps amazing me and indeed convinced me about the authenticity of this Islam, is it's completeness. There is no area Islam doesn't touch. There are comprehensive rules, from the Qur'an and Prophet's teaching, on exorcism. The summary of the rule of excorcism is: -Recite special Qura'nic verses(Ayatul Kursiyyu Q2:55, Q 112-114,Suratul Jinn and some others) on the afflicted person -The reciter should be a someone very knowledgeable and has great iman(faith) and taqwa(fear of Allah), not somebody that indulges in sins -It should be done in line with the Sunnah(practice) of Prophet of Muhammad, not just anyhow -The environment where the exorcism is being made should be clean, spiritually and physically, free from animate pictures, crosses etc around If the jinn is inside the person, the power of the Qur'anic verses will make it uncomfortable and it may talk. One Nairalander, though not a Muslim said he witnessed this recently I visited my moslem relatives on the other end (I still lie to them that I am a muslim to gain acceptance) and experienced the same thing, there was a girl who is a relative of a wife of my cousin, she was attacked by Aljanu (evil spirits ), and was brought to a mallam who lives in my cousins vicinity, we took the girl there and the mallam began to pray for her using the Koran, once he started praying for her she began to scream, cry and roll on the floor, she begged them to stop reading the Koran and promised to leave the young lady alone and never to return, they asked the so called Aljani what his name was, his age, where he came from and the reason he got hold of the young girl, the girl said somethings and continued to shout and scream when ever the mallam read the verses from the Koran, the young girl kept saying things that were not very clear and of no particular meaning, she was speaking in tongues the way christains do, in short it was really a DRAMICTIC scene, having been brought up as a muslim i had witnessed such events about twice or trice when i was a kid but it was really strange and eerie since i no longer believe in islam and had never witnessed such a thing for a very long time. by BINDEX The jinn will be feeling serious heat by the power of the Qur'an and will begin to speak through the mouth of the person possessed. According to Sunnah, the exorcist may ask the jinn some questions about his religion, why it attacked the person etc, but anything the jinn says should not be taken as absolutely true as the Prophet had taught us that they are compulsive liars, but speak truths just once in a while.The exorcist is also required to preach to the jinn to accept Islam. I have also witnessed exorcism in real life and I was amazed at the power of these Qur'anic verses. Apart from the attack on a family member which by Allah's mercy, Qur'anic recitation solved, and the one narrated by Nairalander Bindex, a non-Muslim, let me narrate some other real life cases of exorcism in Nigeria here and some abroad. LAGOS Some years ago, this Muslim lady started behaving strangely and it was established taht she was attacked by jinn(mind you, not all strange behaviours are cases of Jinn possession, there is physiologically-induced mental imbalance as well, and the solution here may be taking the victim to Hospital.). Alhaji Akindele, an Ibadan-based Islamic scholar, who is well-known for treating Jinn attack, was invited(we invited him in that our family case too). He prepared the environemnt and started reciting these verses on the afflicted lady. It became very intense, and suddenly, the mother of the lady ran out naked and told Alhaji to stop what he was doing, that she sent the jinn to her daughter when she refused to join witchcraft she had invited her to. Alhaji told her her power is set to doom and he continued with the recitation and the jinn eventually left the lady and she got well. Allah is wonderful ABUJA/KADUNA/IFE/LAGOS This story was narrated by the person involved herself. It was in 1990/91 session in OAU. She was a Muslim, though just nominal. She was coming from JC party in the midnight, around Pharmacy building, to her Moremi hostel. Suddenly, she saw a black dog pass behind her. Shortly after, an extremely handsome guy was calling her from the back. She looked back and the guy walked up to her. A very heavy toasting started, till they departed as she entered her Moremi hall. She agreed to the guys proposal. The relationship had gone far when the 'guy' revealed to her that he was a jinn taking human form. The lady confessed that the guy made pleasurable sex to her etc. She became rich and just after three years of leaving Ife, she already had houses in Lagos,Kaduna and Abuja through the satanic forces of her jinn 'husband'. Deep inside her, she wasn't happy with what was going on, but her 'husband' had threatened to kill her if she revealed what was going on. One day in 1995(can't recall the exact year she said but around 1995) she sid she attended one programme in National mosque,Abuja and the lecturer was talking about the power of Ayatul Kursiyyu(Q2:55) and he mentioned its potency in warding off devil attack. She said she started reciting the ayah every night, and one night, her 'husband' appeared to her with axe threatening to kill her. She engaged her in fight and she was able to overpower him. The jinn disappeared.She woke up only to learn that her houses in Abuja, KD and Lagos were all burning, simultaneously. She lost all the wealth she acquired as a 'wife' to this jinn. She has now returned to her normal life, still fortifies herself with the Ayatul kursiyyu and other verses. Looks very hard to believe but happened in Nigeria here. IBADAN The lady was a Lawyer, an Ife graduate. Her problem was taht one jinn is disturbing her, appearing to her in dreams, having sex with her and telling her 'he' was her husband and she should not marry. This woman was a professional, an Ife-trained lawyer, who like many nairalanders here, may not believe there was anything as jinn before. To cut the long story short, through the Islamic exorcist traditions(reciting Qur'an etc) she was delivered from the jinn. THEIR DECEPTIVE WAYS: THE IJEBU-ODE EXAMPLE 27 jinns were cast from this woman. The jinninflicted on her familial barreness and other problems. It's a long story but the point I want to mention here is that the exorcist has to be very knowledgeable in addition to being pious and fearful of Allah. He should be fearless of the jinn. In this case, when the exorcism was being done and the jinn began to talk, it gave a condition that it will leave if and if the exorcist can put one red cloth in one junction and other fetish conditions. Ordinarily, the exorcist could have accepted, in which case he has ignorantly being led by the jinn to commit shirk, but the exorcist refused the agreement proposed and continued to invoke Quranic verses on it until the jinns were expelled. THE IRAQ LADY I read this. She was a Muslim sister, very well-known for her love of Islam and training of children in the area. Suddenly, she started behaving strangely, and carrying Christian crosses. It was observed she had been possessed by Jinns. The exorcist method of reciting Qur'an etc was administered on her and she became well again. THE SRI LANKAN BOY This happened in 1992 and made global news headlines. A 6-month-old baby born into Muslim family started speaking Hindu and performing Hindu rites. It was very amazing and the hindus started using it as a justification of their religion.The newspapers reported it. People from different parts of the world, unfortunately including some Muslims, started visiting Sri lanka to catch a glimpse of the Miracle baby and asking him for their furure etc. Sri Lankan Prime minister,Prima Dasa, made a statement about it and he was trying to say all religions are from same God, whether Muslim, Christian,Hindu etc. A government built house for with security and it became a tourist spot of a sort. A local Islamic scholar who had known the case was one of jinn possession ask for permission to see the 'miracle' boy. After initial resistance from the security, the ustaz was able to have access to the child. Immediately the Child saw him, he was restless and attempted running, but the scholar was able to get hold of him and recited the Qur'an on hin. the boy returned back to his normal state i.e an ordinary 6-month old baby. the jinn possessing him had fled. It happened in Sri Lanka There are many stories of jinn possession and how Islamic exorcism was administered on it, which I have witnessed, read about and heard. They sound fairy tales, but these things happened. The Nairalander that witnessed how Qur'an was being used to exorcise has attested to this. SOME OTHER IMPORTANT THINGS TO KNOW ABOUT EXORCISM IN ISLAM -We don't use evil to cure evil. So it is not permitted to use unislamic ways to attempt to expel jinn. The best of mankind,Prophet Muhammad, had over 1400 years ago, taught us how to go about it, and till today the sunnah methodology works wonder. You cannot send jinn to expel jinn. -You cannot enter into agreement with jinn in the process of exorcising. It should be unconditional. You cannot take anything said by the Jinn as a basis for worship in Islam. For example,if it tells you something that goes against an Islamic principle, don't take it as truth. They lie a lot. -There are some so-called alfas that use jinn. please beware of them. If exorcism is involving killing an animal, taking calabash etc, please reject it. The Sunnah methodology doesn't involve that, and if it appears working, then know you are using evil to cure evil, and it leads to Shirk. Most times, in these methods the jinns leave conditionally, such condition involving the exorcist committing Shirk. The Jinn leaves, not because the method was potent, but being an gaent of Shaytan, it has been able to lead the peopel involve astary, achieving hsi aim. And unfortunately, many of the so-called Alfas, use this unacceptable method. I can vouch for Alhaji Akindele, Mallam Shafii and some other northern scholars in Nigeria.They use the prophet's methodology. -Exorcism may involve having to physically beat the person afflicted, but in actual sense, it's the jinn that will be feeling the pain. But this approach is raely used. the beating has to be systematic. It takes some expertise. The authentic exorcist know how to do it. But care has to be taken, to avoid a re-occurence of what happened in Manchester some years back, where some Muslim brothers, in exorcising,beat the person to death and they were arrested. Beating is rarely used and should be systematic. -Witchcrafts,charms,seeing a dead person in real life, most magics(some are just deception), claims to be seeing God, Jesus etc by these Christian and deviant Muslim 'miracle' workers are all cases of Jinns at work.They are actually seeing something, but what they are seeing are really Jinns deceiving them and leading them astray. I'm 100% convinced about this. A family member was also seeing something frequently, with the 'thing' telling her he was god, that salats(5 days prayers have been cancelled, that christianity and Islam are the same thing, that Qur'an no longer applies and this person exemplified a very great behaviour) and she was preaching all these things around in the neighbourhood, even claiming she was a prophet. I knew she was actually seeing something but all my efforts to convince her that what she was seeing was Jinn and not God, was fruitless, until the Qur'anic ayahs were administered on her and she stopped the preaching and she no longer sees her 'God'. Please the subject Jinn is what every Muslim must know about. If you know much about these creation, you will not be surprised at the way Charms, so-called 'miracles', 'visions' etc work. They are all jinn at work. The following materials could be useful: -The World of the Jinns and Demons, a book by one Professor(can't recall the name) at Sharia university, Jordan -The Exorcist tradition, by Dr. Abu Ameenah Bilal Philips -The world of the Jinns, a lecture-tape by Dr. Abu Ameenah Bilal Philips, delivered at Islamic centre, New York in 2000 14 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Islam And Exorcism by earTHMama: 7:03pm On Dec 18, 2008 |
LAGOShave you heard of familiar spirits?. That is phoney spirits that mimic the evil spirit or sometimes mimic the spirit of God?. The alhaji may have dealt with that. Do the treat cases of abikun/ogbanje? |
Re: Islam And Exorcism by Jarus(m): 9:49am On Dec 22, 2008 |
earTHMama:What is familiar spirit? Educate me. Let me know how it works. But most likely, it's jinns at work again. |
Re: Islam And Exorcism by earTHMama: 6:46am On Dec 23, 2008 |
A demonic spirit that assumes many forms. Sometimes it may attack you by appearing in form of your dead relative thereby making you believe that dead people can appear live on earth. sometimes, it comes by possessing you and guiding you to one of his emissaries for exorcism, if those people succeed in casting him out[which they will because they work together], you'll be hooked to that false faith. Familiar spirits can also attack you in the form of an angel thereby making you believe the message he gave you is from almighty God. |
Re: Islam And Exorcism by Jarus(m): 9:13am On Dec 23, 2008 |
earTHMama:This exactly describes some of the activities of these jinns. In Islam we call them Jinns. So I may assume familiar spirit=Jinn. 1 Like |
Re: Islam And Exorcism by earTHMama: 11:35am On Dec 23, 2008 |
This exactly describes some of the activities of these jinns. In Islam we call them Jinns. So I may assume familiar spirit=Jinn. Where do your Islamic exorcists get the power to cast out jinns? Do they have the holy ghost on them? |
Re: Islam And Exorcism by Lagosboy: 1:02pm On Dec 23, 2008 |
earTHMama:They don’t have the power, The power lies with the Lord lord in whose hands is the forelock of man and jinn , the dead amongst them and the living. All they do is follow the tradition and teachings of the Prophet (SAW) in performing exorcism. There are verses in the quran that has to be recited continuously and the evil jinn would never feel comfortable with the evil actions while the words of God are been recited on him. For the exorcism to be successful it has to be by a pious person that doesn’t freely indulge in sins. Spirituality is very important as it is a catapult to closeness to God. There is a sheikh that visits the UK from Saudi. This guy is well known that among the jinns that one of them confirmed that when he walks into a place they all run away because he his too harsh against them. |
Re: Islam And Exorcism by earTHMama: 5:43pm On Dec 23, 2008 |
say it again. You have to be empowered by the holy spirit in order to fight demons otherwise, you are a goner unless you are one of them. A senior jinn can cast away a junior one in order to make the victim comfortable in their methods of worship or faith. I hope you know that? 1 Like |
Re: Islam And Exorcism by Nobody: 7:16pm On Dec 23, 2008 |
Great post Jarus. I enjoyed reading it. I have one of the books you mentioned, The World of the Jinn and devils. It was written by Dr. Umar Sulaiman al-Ashqar. It contains some of what you wrote here. I found reading it scary. . . . But that was before. |
Re: Islam And Exorcism by earTHMama: 10:26pm On Dec 23, 2008 |
@earthmama, u said a senior jinn can cast out a junior jinn in order to make the victim more comfortable with their methods of worship or faith. Why don't you think the same about mallams casting out demons while wearing a goatee? 1 Like |
Re: Islam And Exorcism by olabowale(m): 11:03pm On Dec 23, 2008 |
I wear a ful beard. Thats more than a goatee. Whats the significance of the goatee? |
Re: Islam And Exorcism by earTHMama: 1:38am On Dec 24, 2008 |
Do I know? You should be able to tell us. The only significance I can think of is terrorism unless you have otherwise. 2 Likes |
Re: Islam And Exorcism by MrCrackles(m): 1:40am On Dec 24, 2008 |
earTHMama: Shut your mou.f, clown! 1 Like |
Re: Islam And Exorcism by JJYOU: 1:44am On Dec 24, 2008 |
MrCrackles:you want start again? wetin my aunty do you? earTHMama:is this the very rev. funmi? |
Re: Islam And Exorcism by MrCrackles(m): 1:47am On Dec 24, 2008 |
JJYOU: Start wetin? I only said she should shut the fuc.k up! |
Re: Islam And Exorcism by JJYOU: 1:52am On Dec 24, 2008 |
MrCrackles:how can you tell someone's aunty to shut up? please leave her alone i beg you my dear brother. |
Re: Islam And Exorcism by MrCrackles(m): 1:54am On Dec 24, 2008 |
JJYOU: |
Re: Islam And Exorcism by arramyjay: 5:30am On Dec 24, 2008 |
@ jarus jazakum llaha kharian. Your post was very interesting. |
Re: Islam And Exorcism by Jarus(m): 9:08am On Dec 24, 2008 |
earTHMama:Capital NO. You don't need any holy ghost or spirit to cast out demon, as a Muslim. All you need is KNOWLEDGE, TAQWA(fear of Allah) and PIETY(pls don't attempt doing it if you indulge freely in sins) KNOWLEDGE:You have to be knowledgeable in Islamic teachings and principles generally, and what Qur'an and Sunnah say about Jinn in particular. You must also be a fluent reciter of Qur'an as well so as to be able to pronounce those exorcist verses correctly. TAQWA: It is a precondition that that the exorcist is someone that fears Allah. He must have strong eeman( faith in Allah) and trust Him as the only one who can cure the afflicted person. This mindset is very important for the potency of the exorcism. PIETY: The exorcist should be a pious person, not somebody that indulges freely in sins, otherwise the effect will not be felt by the jinn. He should be somebody that worships Allah very well, by performing obligatory acts as well as many voluntary deeds(nawafils). These qualities are very important to an exorcist, otherwise the Jinn may be stronger than him. A case in point is what happened during the lifetime of Imam Abu Haneefah, one of Islam's finest scholars centuries ago. A jinn attacked somebody and the Scholar was called upon. He did the exorcism hitch-freely. After his death, the jinn relapsed and attacked the person again and one of the scholar's students was called upon to do the exorcism. The Jinn, knowing him to be somebody that indulged in sins, just mocked him saying "you? Imam feared God, that was why he was able to chase us away, but you, no way". Of course the student was also knowledgeable, but fell short in piety. So all the three are very important. It should however be mentioned that somebody can still have these three qualities and yet not be able to do exorcism. It may be due to inexperience or fear, not having done it before. Similarly the fact that somebody is not able to do exorcism does not mean he is not pious or fearful of Allah. No, exorcism is somehow a specialist skill. Some scholars are just not interested in that area. It's just one aspect of Islamic knowledge and it is not compulsory everybody knows how to do it. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Islam And Exorcism by Jarus(m): 10:04am On Dec 24, 2008 |
MORE ABOUT THE JINNS THEIR DWELLINGS According to Islamic scholars, they dwell in filthy places, in uncompleted buildings, in remote areas under trees,in hills, in market places, in toilets, in bathrooms, in holes etc. But this doesn't mean every toilet or bathroom or hole or uncompleted building automatically has jinns staying there. No. FORM What is known is that they are invisible. But they can take human or animal form, especially dog or cat. They can take the form of a dead relative and appear to you and you think you are seeing your dead relative, they can even take voice etc. But the truth is that a dead person cannot come back to life. It si not possible. They can possess human beings totally or partially. They can possess animals. So don't be surprised if you hear a dog talk like a human being. It's jinn at work. They can possess objects as well, objects like trees, statues, stone, pictures etc. I have heard a case of picture hanged on the wall, with the person in the picture moving his hands. The jinn is at work. It has possessed the photograph. When I read the case of a statue of Mary in Kenya suddenly moving, I knew the jinn were at work again. They can also possess a tree, and you see a tree exhibiting some strange habits like maybe producing strange,unusual sound in the night etc LIFESPAN Jinns live longer than humans. They live for thousands of years. A jinn that was cast out from a person in Ilorin some years ago confessed he was knew the time of Prophet Sulaiman, but we don't take what they say as absolutely true,as the Prophet taught us. WHY DO THEY POSSESS The Jinns (the evil ones among them) are agents of shaytaan, so the goal, like Shaytaan promised God, is to lead man astray. But beyond this a jinn, as stated by the great Islamic scholar Ibn Taymiyyah, may possess for other reasons such as: -MISCHIEF: They may be playing among themselves that 'I can possess this person' just as mischief is common among men too -They may also feel offended by a wrong innocently committed agianst them by a person, such as unknowingly pouring hot water on them or urinating in their holes etc The Jinn may also attack a lady due to her beauty and attraction. Some evil men also send jinns to another person. THE JINNS' RELIGION Like human beings, the jinns also have freewill.They are going to render accounts like human beings. That is why we have the good ones and the evil ones. There are Muslims, Christains etc among them. But whether good or bad, a Muslim is forbidden from using/consulting Jinns. The exorcist must not contact or make use of, even a Muslim Jinn, for exorcism. He is however required to preach Islam to the Jinn during exorcism. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Islam And Exorcism by Jarus(m): 10:05am On Dec 24, 2008 |
So far we have talked about CURATIVE measures for Jinn attack/possession. Curative measures are specialist and more demanding, but PREVENTIVE measures are easier and should be done by every Muslim to ward off Jinn attack. The following are some of the preventive measures: -Worship:Worshipping Allah by doing the all obligatory deeds and lots of meritorious voluntary deeds make Jinns move away from somebody. -Fear of Allah: The more fearful of Allah and pious one is, the lesser the chance of being attacked by Jinns. They find it difficult to attack somebody that obeys Allah. -Sticking to Sunnah: The prophet(SAW) has taught us how to go about our lives from the minutest daily activities, from sleeping, to entering toilet,bathroom, etc, to eating, drinking,wearing clothe,shoes etc. For example, he taught us to wear right shoe first, and off left first, enter bathroom, toilet with left leg first and come out with right leg first, not talking in unnecessarily in bathroom and toilet, eating with right hand, etc. Sticking to all these etiquettes ward off Jinns. -Recitation of Qur'an: Constant recitation of the Qur'an in general and the exorcist verses in particular ward off demons from a household. The prophet said "Devils flee from a house where Suratul baqarah(Q2) is recited" -Keeping houses free from animate pictures, crosses, filths etc -Not urinating in holes: One of the dwellings of the Jinns are holes. So we have had cases of Jinns attacking somebody because he urinated in the Jinn's dwelling place. So the Prophet warned us not to urinate in holes -Not pouring hot water anyhow: Jinns are invisible, unless they take human or animal form. They can be offended if someone innocently pours hot water on them, since they are invisble. So we are advised in Sunnah to always mix hot water with cold one to make it cold before pouring away. You may as well leave till it becomes cold. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Islam And Exorcism by Lagosboy: 11:27am On Dec 24, 2008 |
earTHMama: Earthmama the last time i checked I have never seen A Jesus without a beard. So how cum u have a problem with d goatie dont u like your guys to look like A Jesus |
Re: Islam And Exorcism by littleb(m): 4:03pm On Dec 24, 2008 |
@Jarus, Thanks a lot for the great works. May almighty Allah continue to guide you and increase your knowledge. |
Re: Islam And Exorcism by earTHMama: 6:09pm On Dec 24, 2008 |
You are so crazy. That was funny tho. @Jarus, I'm coming back. I need to go shopping with my boo. |
Re: Islam And Exorcism by Jarus(m): 6:48pm On Dec 24, 2008 |
No wahala Funmi. I'm also off to home. Tomorrow, insha Allah. |
Re: Islam And Exorcism by cola: 10:00pm On Dec 24, 2008 |
may Allah bless you, ife. (jarus ) I hope muslims here and non-muslims alike find this thread beneficial. And, 'thanks', funmi, for starting this. I hope it benefits you. |
Re: Islam And Exorcism by jaybee3(m): 8:33am On Dec 25, 2008 |
Interesting read. I have always known ayatul qurisiyu to be very powerful. peace be on ma muslim brodas and sistas |
Re: Islam And Exorcism by olabowale(m): 2:55pm On Dec 25, 2008 |
@earTHMama: « #12 on: Yesterday at 01:38:21 AM »
So you said something about goatee, without knowing about any real significance to it? Wearing goatee has nothing to do with terrorism. I remember Timothy McVeigh. And Terry Nicholson. Were they goatee wearers? There are tons of people wearing facial hair, who would not hurt anything. Facial hair; goatee is a manly thing. Women are not supposed to spot facial hair, while men are. 1 Like |
Re: Islam And Exorcism by earTHMama: 1:37am On Dec 26, 2008 |
It should however be mentioned that somebody can still have these three qualities and yet not be able to do exorcism. It may be due to inexperience or fear, not having done it before. Similarly the fact that somebody is not able to do exorcism does not mean he is not pious or fearful of Allah. No, exorcism is somehow a specialist skill. Some scholars are just not interested in that area. It's just one aspect of Islamic knowledge and it is not compulsory everybody knows how to do it. @Jarus, Do you know that evil spirits can leave her host and possess the exorcist or those standing by during exorcism?. What has islam done to take care of those that indulge in the practice of exorcism so as not to get hurt or possessed? |
Re: Islam And Exorcism by earTHMama: 1:38am On Dec 26, 2008 |
Facial hair; goatee is a manly thing. Women are not supposed to spot facial hair, while men are. Will you agree with me that it's very unhygienic? |
Re: Islam And Exorcism by olabowale(m): 3:55am On Dec 26, 2008 |
Wolf Blitzer of CNN's situation room, US FED Chairman, and others wear beard. Emi Olabowale Omo Pakulopa of ijebu Ode wear my full beard. Its well groomed. It is like feathers and it has sheen. There is nothing unhygienic about a well kept beard! 2 Likes 1 Share |
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