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Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by anssy(f): 9:57pm On Mar 11, 2015 |
goshap: |
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by anssy(f): 9:58pm On Mar 11, 2015 |
goshap: |
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by johnydon22(m): 10:38pm On Mar 11, 2015 |
This dude is just a troll, none of his posts or assertions or questions even make any sense... 1 Like |
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by Nobody: 12:20am On Mar 12, 2015 |
johnydon22:no be watin you go talk. All of a sudden it doesnt make sense to, which part?, lemma rephrase and come down to your IQ, if you prefer please be free to quote me wrong or point out ma stupidity and pointless ness, if ur rit i will nod and take correction. I keep telling you guys the ones have, your yet to meet a real Christian. I myself aint a Christian but theist, it offers a flexibility in believe, two sides of an argument n all |
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by Nobody: 12:32am On Mar 12, 2015 |
masonkz:what truth!, they subscribe to the logo Christian but by works they r not xtain, for God sakes enough Agnostic guys here subscribe cowardly to the name Christian in public. |
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by Nobody: 6:36am On Mar 12, 2015 |
johnydon22: Exactly. Please ignore. 1 Like |
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by Nobody: 10:57am On Mar 12, 2015 |
masonkz:please!, dont flatter yourself pink princess, i got bored a long time ago, you guys make Agnostic look like it was born out of a personal vendetta against the Christian and their God, for some weird reason you guys consider yourself intellectual superiors over the Christians, yet you cant take just. Please am bored i need a real Agnostic dude, who knows the truth and where he/she stands, you'all are a bunch of clowns dancing round a white man philosophical philosophy. Do you why Jesus said its difficult for a rich man to enter heaven?, if you do understand that, you'd admire the peculiar strength of the Christians, when with all your PhD decree in medicine, and your willing to grasp and accept the concept behind the virgin birth of christ, which devoid all logic. Still bored please send me a really Agnostic, not clowns n frauds, with parental and authority vendetta. |
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by leon12(m): 11:59am On Mar 12, 2015 |
goshap:^ You believe and accept virgin birth of christ, went ahead in another paragraph to call people frauds and clowns when you already be duped by your holy book. So amazing, I wonder who's the clown here. Go and read your holy book in it original language, Clear yourself of any confusion and come back to apologize. ![]() |
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by Nobody: 12:22pm On Mar 12, 2015 |
leon12:finally someone is talking, reading in the original language help creates confusion, translating from hebrew to english, the exact word might not literally interpretation since certain, or quite a hand fjll of english word have no english replicate or mean, take for example the word virgin might might just be an hebrew connotation for a woman not married, single blah,. There is exact interpretation. Point being. The truth ut not all the truth, the holy spirit is the bridge that occupied that missing gap. -dont know anyone and dont such an individual exist except lied too, whose a Christian cause Christianity has, or owns all the answers, it's more of a thing of faith than fact. Christianity got more questions than answers. Faith da only item Agnostic n da rest lack, usually csuse of their intellectual stand point |
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by Nobody: 7:11pm On Apr 10, 2015 |
anssy:Haha, nice. Very nice. |
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by Nobody: 7:44pm On Apr 10, 2015 |
I find that for females, atheism is rarely a life-long calling. More like a fad. |
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by kolajamesjnr(m): 3:51pm On May 23, 2015 |
Deist here |
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by kolajamesjnr(m): 3:58pm On May 23, 2015 |
johnydon22:Nice one Bro ![]() |
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by johnydon22(m): 4:12pm On May 23, 2015 |
kolajamesjnr:Lolzzz.. |
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by Liekiller(f): 9:22pm On May 23, 2015 |
BoboYekini: What makes you say that? 1 Like |
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by Nobody: 10:24pm On May 23, 2015 |
Liekiller:Kinda like the penchant you lot have for the latest celebrity diet, females are mostly atheist because they think it's cool, not because of any genuine soul-searching. 1 Like |
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by Liekiller(f): 10:56pm On May 23, 2015 |
BoboYekini: haha ok. since when is it considered cool to be an atheist in naija? and what is the sample size this observation is based on? ![]() 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by johnydon22(m): 11:01pm On May 23, 2015 |
Liekiller: I am really wondering... ![]() |
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by Nobody: 11:06pm On May 23, 2015 |
Liekiller:Nairaland. ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by Dekatron(m): 9:40am On May 24, 2015 |
Good. I so much love this. Guys, i need your help. Here is the summary of my story : I am from a very religious family. Dad is a pastor,Mom is a Deaconess. Infact, this morning,before 7 am,they are already at church(i just wrapped my blanket over my head in my room ALONE-had an hangover from a party,the party cloth is still on right now as i type). These people so much love God that Mum made it a MUST to join ushering department,at the Headquarters my dad pastors. We are so religious that every year, we spare a day to [/b]fast and pray[b]. . . . I'd just sit and think : Who is God self? Before religious folks start yabbing my parents for improper upbringing, MY DAD IS OPEN MINDED. IF HE TELLS U SOMETIN, HE BELIEVES HE HAS SATISFIED HIS CONSCIENCES. I have heard THOUSANDS of preachings(My Dad is a pastor for Moses sake-- a SENIOR PASTOR). I started asking questions : IF GOD IS ALL KNOWING,WHY PLANT TREE OF LIFE. I sought the bible(i am proud to say that EXCEPT ISAIAH and some books like 1,2 john, I READ THE WHOLE BIBLE BEFORE 13(i am now 18-i am taking the age down soon)) All these since i was like 12. . Around last year, i FULLY DISCOVERED NAIRALAND. before that, lemme tell u I LOVE PHYSICS like hell(my wife will be a physicist self. Lol). I couldnt reconcile some laws of physics and astronomy with religion. E.g : why didn't the bible talk about BILLIONS of Galaxies that we have? Or is the bible not COMPLETE? I discovered NL and consequently, RELIGION SECTION. I read couple atheists' answers and I IMMEDIATELY GOT MY ANSWER. Even A PROVINCIAL PASTOR(RCCG peepz should know how ranking such a person is) COULDNT GIVE ANSWERS TO MY QUESTIONS LOGICALLY. I GOT MY ANSWER : THERE IS NO GOD since then, i became an atheist & I DID NOT REGRET OR FEAR HELL. . HELL?? Thats a delusion!! But i have one problem : MY FAMILY IS DEEPLY RELIGIOUS. I MEAN, RELIGIOUS!! NO HIP HOP,NO SLANGS(na me be the person wey dey play hip hop for my house-- yes i love RAP MUSIC). Aside that, I LOVE MY MOM O. CHAI!! PASS MY DAD OR ANYBODY SELF. She is more religious than Dad self. I would not wanna break her heart. I go to church when i am at home. I go to church on sundays when am at school cos I LOVE MY MOM because i told her i wnt miss church on campus. At school, as a Nigerian, you know, everywhere, people flaunt Religion in your face. I dont resent them. But i couldnt hold it anylonger. On whatsapp, they spam me with religious quotes and videos and audios. I just talked to one girl-- hottest girl in my department-EEE. you dont get to see girls in Engineering. I told her,I AM AN ATHEIST. That was around February/March. Yesterday,23rd May 2015. I won't forget. I told every ELECTRICAL BOYS that I DON'T BELIEVE A GOD EXIST. I used the OMNIPOTENT OMNISCIENT OMNIPRESENT paradox for them. 1 even said that i dont know the meaning of PARADOX. . . GUYS, HERE IS THE PROBLEM : You all know that Nigerians are hostile towards PEOPLE THAT DO NOT SHARE THEIR RELIGIOUS VIEWS. A friend did it to me..... Because he said that i don't listen to any other songs apart from RAPS and i dont pray early in the morning. I told him that it is my own view, u should respect it. HE CALLED ME A FOOL. I DIDN'T GET ANGRY, I JUST SAID THAT I AM GOING HOME, GIMME TRANSPORT FARE, COS I WAS SOOO BROKE. . . HE never gave me. He was pushing me front and back. I left his house AROUND 9:47 pm. I slept in the Engineering building for days,wore a single cloth(i had only my brush and toothpaste). I survived on attending school seminars where they share eatables UNTIL DAD SENT MONEY FOR ME..... I FEAR STIGMATIZATION. I fear people going about,making me look like a beast. . . I fear being an outcast in my department. . . . What do i do?? Cc : johnnydon22,prot0n,ooman,cold,colored . Any body. . Pls try and read through, i suck at writting. Thanks 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by johnydon22(m): 10:28am On May 24, 2015 |
Cc. Dekatron Even tho i hardly read or write long posts myself i must say i really finished your post from start to finish not minding the length. I was saddened at the story of how people stigmatize you or treat you bad when they find out you are an atheist tho i am not surprised because i also as you know is an atheist is this religious saturated african society. We many times talk about the intolerance in religions with many christians heaping it on islam but from many of your similar cases that i see both religions are very intolerant tho islam is a step forward in intolerance than christian which trails behind at a fast pace that i see soon may result to them using violent means. I perfectly know what it means to be an atheist in the midst of religious folks, you will be quick to find out that fanatism is not just about being an extremist. they will be so quick to label you a demon, satanist, occultic, devil and possessed even when all these are laughable knowing they are just as flimsy as the idea of a god, after all its all hewn from the same superstition. I for one didn't quite witness much of that treatment cus i was quick to meekly drag my friends into a very nice discussion and calm argument to show my stance, which always gets them worked up at the end part and make them storm off leaving only the sentence "I will pray for you" ..lol.. The funny part is, many of them now come to me with questions, always seeking an opportunity to discuss with me even right here in my area, sometimes they rush to call me when their is a heated religious argument or question and they would like to know my view. i can say that i gained the respect of most people here tho some just call me a mad genius that should be avoided or he will make you think what you are not supposed to. I achieved this treatment and respect due to my tactics in dealing with people and i beg you employ that too because i fear this harsh treatment from your friend may grow into hatred and resentment which is dangerous to you. First; Please do not be so quick to shout "I don't believe in a god" because you know you are surrounded by people with religiously formatted brains who wouldn't think twice on labelling you the enemy immediately they hear that. Make people realize your stance through a careful tactful and constructed statements that may come in form of questions and then follow it up with calm argument not shouting. Secondly; Your friend who cannot accept you for who you are, am afraid is not worthy to be called one. Please avoid that your friend for now. Do not bear any grudge with him or anything but give him a well deserved space to live his life while you live yours. Thirdly; Since you have found yourself in an environment that is very hostile to your atheistic views, i suggest you minimize the way you reveal your stance. Sometimes it is better to just keep quiet than say anything. But when you want to say anything, do not portray it as a strong statement like "Their is no god" it has proven to spark up hostility in people that think there is.. Rather used the statement like "I don't believe their is" when dealing with them just to show them it is just your stance and then willing to take them on a good discussion on why you don't share their belief in a god. Bro, i think survival is an innate instinct in every living being, so i implore you to place that above everything else. Reduce the rate at which you tell people your stance, Rather be mute at it sometimes than reveal ur stance on the concept of a god. We were all born into a very religiously sophisticated society ladened with blatant superstitions and sometimes nonsensical beliefs, so we don't expect that to change in a second. the more time goes the more ideas change. So please focus more on your studies and well being than discussing your ideologies with people whom you know might be a potential threat to your well being. When you feel alone, just hop on in here, you can always find like minded people... ![]() Let me call some of my nairaland friends too ![]() Cc. DProDG, Frank317, Finofoya, menesheh, davien, theAtheist101 and many more. 10 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by menesheh(m): 12:55pm On May 24, 2015 |
Dekatron: Same happened to me way back then and my parents was like tried tremendously to ascertain my positions and reasons for my not joining in prayers and sorts like that. I was from a Jewish family and a devoted and strict one for that matter. Shaa too many stories My advice is, don't go about telling or initiating religious chat with people you encounter everywhere but contribute your quoter in discussions that involves you and try vividly to be loaded with pretty much info so as to point your logical explanations to your claims of non-existence of super natural deities or the transcendent. For your mum, dramatically, tell her your position and convintions about the universe and god. She can easily deal with it than trying to conceal those ideas which will cause more harm than good emanating from your attitudes and indifference towards the do and don't both in the family and the likes. Solving some of your unanswered questions and puzzle in NL religious section, you have to give thanks to few free thinkers in NL religious section for their philanthropic and unreprisal work in raising consciousness for the betterment of our remote Nigeria and the world, the likes of davien, johnydon22, Plaetton etc ![]() 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by Liekiller(f): 1:02pm On May 24, 2015 |
@ Dekatron I agree very much with johnydon22 and menesheh. In an environment of out-of-control religious madness it is certainly not easy to be openly atheistic. So for your own peace of mind you will probably want to avoid getting into debates with overly religious people all too often. In most cases it leads nowhere, the brainwashing is so extreme that most can't allow themselves to even ask "what if"? or look at their beliefs critically. However, you are not alone out there. A growing number of people are starting to use their brains, and this is the beginning of much needed change. Some of the younger generation are starting to rattle the cage of religious mind control. So instead of battling it out in futile discussions with zealots I would encourage you to connect with others of your kind and to sharpen your intellectual blade some more. The internet gives those of us who live under the yoke of religious insanity the freedom to express themselves without fear. Use it ![]() 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by Liekiller(f): 1:16pm On May 24, 2015 |
BoboYekini: That just goes to show how extreme things have gotten in naija. What can you expect in a society that absolutely demands females to put their religious bigotry on display? 1 Like |
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by johnydon22(m): 1:26pm On May 24, 2015 |
Liekiller: A society that blames you for wearing a short skirt when you are raped, instead of blaming the id!ot that committed the crime.. 3 Likes |
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by davien(m): 1:34pm On May 24, 2015 |
Dekatron your story isn't too far from mine...both my parents are deacons....I temporarily worked as a worker till I stopped going to church at 17....my atheism started with my interest in science and how science worked... Not the Nigerian science that is piss-poor, but the methods of science and also some philosophical stand-points(realism,solipsism,naturalism,pragmatism,etc.. ) ,so I constantly scoured books...internet videos and anything I could find to quench my thirst for knowledge... After a lot of thought and views of apologetics and counter-apologetics I became an atheist.... And I too listen to "unholy music"....mine is even rock and heavy metal....lol... ![]() I very much agree with what everyone above have told you....be very careful with anyone knowing the fact that you're an atheist.....yesterday I got into a conversation with a philosopher and she almost branded me an atheist if not for my injection of "well god knows" into the conversation.... ![]() 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by Liekiller(f): 1:43pm On May 24, 2015 |
johnydon22: Indeed. And a society that teaches women that their only purpose is to breed like rabbits and OBEY. Individuality, thinking, and having an opinion would all be used against any female who dares. 1 Like |
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by johnydon22(m): 1:47pm On May 24, 2015 |
Liekiller: Thinking men are superior to women in any way and this leads to social discrimination sometimes.. Some even think women to be the cause of evil in the world.. Pathetic and stupendous. Forgetting that both men and women are just different sexes of the same Homo sapiens. . none is greater, superior to the other.. THE WORLD NEEDS EQUALITY... AFRICAN WOMEN NEEDS EQUALITY... 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by Liekiller(f): 1:48pm On May 24, 2015 |
johnydon22: You hit the nail on the head! 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by Liekiller(f): 2:08pm On May 24, 2015 |
davien: Bwahaha you surely must be possessed by the devil ![]() 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by davien(m): 3:35pm On May 24, 2015 |
Liekiller:They'd be branded as feminists who are always seeking to be superior to men....that ideology has been going on for a very long time.... 1 Like |
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by onetrack(m): 4:18pm On May 24, 2015 |
Dekatron You should also check out We F*cking Love Atheism on facebook (replace the * with a u in the title). It's a really good source of quotes and sayings that you could use to defend yourself and make people question their own beliefs. Funny as well. 1 Like |
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