Your heart is heaven.

twosquare:
sorry to bring your attention to some things, those words John heard were not lawful to be spoken in the natural, but lawful to hear it in the Spirit. It is not meant for earthly terrain but for those who will grow into boanerges and hear the voice of the 7 thunders. I know what you're trying to preach but you got it wrong here. Not all words are expedient to be spoken in the earth because this world won't be able to take it or bear it (flexybobo). There are some things and secrets that are not lawful for this mouth to utter in the earthly realm, if you want to say it and hear it, come up hither into the realms of YHWH.


The paradise is above in the celestial, just as earth is here too and we can see it. Same with the kingdom of God...it is with Him even though there is a seed of the Kingdom in us all, the kingdom of the earth is in some people too. What makes up the kingdom of God in us are things of the right hand; so that when they are fully formed, the same authority of the Kingdom above will be channelled and extended below. As it is above, so it must be below. That when the Kingdom shall appear with the King, you will be able to reign, just as the Kings of this present age reign in this earthly Kingdom.

The reason for the seed of the Kingdom is to catch, caught and bring down His Kingdom that has been with angels for ages, that it might reside with men.

You say, those words John heard were not lawful to be
spoken in the natural, but lawful to hear it in
the Spirit.
what you are telling me is, assuming telling people thou fool, is not lawful to be spoken in this natural life (because we know all the words that are not lawful in this natural ),so telling people thou fool is lawful in paradise?
what words that are not lawful on earth that are lawful in paradise?
we know that what is not lawful is breaking the 10 commandments, remember, moses gave the Jews the law.
do the 10 commandments function in the spirit?
how?
Except, you are saying the words do not fall under the jurisdiction of the 10 commandments, in that case the appropriate term to be used for that Scripture shouldn't be NOT LAWFUL

twosquare:
that place is not even heaven but new Jerusalem. it was said to come out of HEAVEN from God(Rev 21:2). The people will walk by the light of this city and her glory, they(the kings of the earth) will bring their honour and glory into it. So, it is a location, when we talk of Kings, the scriptures here is not talking of Oba of Lagos or Obi of Onitsha or Sultan of Sokoto...kings here are in the pedigree of Enoch, Methuselah, Jared, Abel, Seth, Noah...those are kings, so many kings shall arise in latter days that shall be glorious and crown with honor and shall rule, govern the earth after they have walked by the light of this very city (flexybobo).

so, where are we to go after judgment?
is it new Jerusalem or heaven?

paxonel:

You can think over this as well,
we are not here to be raptured, we are here on earth to remain on this earth and make positive impact through love

How be it nobody wait a second before start thinking of making positive impact to the world.
You are right

paxonel:

that thing you called death is not death, it is sleep.
Death has been defeated.
Have you read down to verse 26?
Revelation 21:26 says And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
The question is, If heaven is beyond the clouds how do the nations of the earth bring their glory into it?
they will climb ladder?
lol

revelation says there will be no death in heaven.
And you are saying death has been defeated on earth which is the same situation in heaven,no doubt.
But how is death defeated? i mean, people die everyday

twosquare:
that place is not even heaven but new Jerusalem. it was said to come out of HEAVEN from God(Rev 21:2). The people will walk by the light of this city and her glory, they(the kings of the earth) will bring their honour and glory into it. So, it is a location, when we talk of Kings, the scriptures here is not talking of Oba of Lagos or Obi of Onitsha or Sultan of Sokoto...kings here are in the pedigree of Enoch, Methuselah, Jared, Abel, Seth, Noah...those are kings, so many kings shall arise in latter days that shall be glorious and crown with honor and shall rule, govern the earth after they have walked by the light of this very city (flexybobo).

How are we sure that all these revelation are not figurative statements?

paxonel:

You say, those words John heard were not lawful to be
spoken in the natural, but lawful to hear it in
the Spirit.
what you are telling me is, assuming telling people thou fool, is not lawful to be spoken in this natural life (because we know all the words that are not lawful in this natural ),so telling people thou fool is lawful in paradise?
what words that are not lawful on earth that are lawful in paradise?
we know that what is not lawful is breaking the 10 commandments, remember, moses gave the Jews the law.
do the 10 commandments function in the spirit?
how?
Except, you are saying the words do not fall under the jurisdiction of the 10 commandments, in that case the appropriate term to be used for that Scripture shouldn't be NOT LAWFUL

you are still talking from the natural view, that's the problem...the word NOT LAWFUL here doesn't mean something profane or dirty as you're thinking but that which is against what the Father has set in His own power. The Father's will is that those words are not lawful for any man to speak on earth for now. Those unspeakable words were not meant for that dispensation but a distant one that is to come. It is not lawful yet something said it out? John wanted to write it down but they said, "don't write it down, seal it"
Those unspeakable words were sealed, it will take another man of the pedigree of John the beloved to unseal it too and hear those words. It is that simple.

10 commandments has been fulfilled in Christ, the law is not made for a righteous man, and you can't find 10 commandments in Heaven, they don't need it there. There are laws greater than 10 commandments: the Law of the Spirit of Life, not Moses that is that of condemnation.

paxonel:

so, where are we to go after judgment?
is it new Jerusalem or heaven?

new jerusalem. And it is not meant for everybody.

flexybobo:

How are we sure that all these revelation are not figurative statements?

nope. They are real and it will happen before your eyes when these things shall come to pass.

Hildalicious:

revelation says there will be no death in heaven.
And you are saying death has been defeated on earth which is the same situation in heaven,no doubt.
But how is death defeated? i mean, people die everyday

Jesus defeated death and same key He gave for everyone to defeat death...the reason people still die is because they have not tap into the knowledge which Christ made available that you may not die( I mean physically). Those who die in the Lord slept, not die per say. But dying physically is ignorance because we have not walked by that very Knowledge. When we do, we won't have any iota of death in our system. What Christ came to do is to show men and teach men how not to die(he wasn't teaching religion but Spirit). Satan took like 800+ yrs to teach Adam how to die...and even before Christ came in the flesh, some people learnt that secret from Him in ages past and skipped death. People like Enoch, Melchizedek, Elijah, and after Him John the beloved and some first century christians that weren't recorded.

If any person tells you that you're meant to die, tell him or her you've died in Christ and your burial ground is in Jerusalem. It is a place to start and if you keep walking and access this secrets by revelation, you will skipped just as those before you did. Skipping death in the coming days will be so normal that if you die a hundred yrs old, you will be regarded as unlucky.

We have some of these people in our midst and some claimed to have met them.....the Ever Living Ones like the desert fathers, Enoch, clouds of witnesses, like the 2men( not 2 angels) seen at the mount of Galilee when Jesus ascended etc. So, death has been defeated, we are only being cheated.

twosquare:
you are still talking from the natural view, that's the problem...the word NOT LAWFUL here doesn't mean something profane or dirty as you're thinking but that which is against what the Father has set in His own power. The Father's will is that those words are not lawful for any man to speak on earth for now. Those unspeakable words were not meant for that dispensation but a distant one that is to come. It is not lawful yet something said it out? John wanted to write it down but they said, "don't write it down, seal it"
Those unspeakable words were sealed, it will take another man of the pedigree of John the beloved to unseal it too and hear those words. It is that simple.

10 commandments has been fulfilled in Christ, the law is not made for a righteous man, and you can't find 10 commandments in Heaven, they don't need it there. There are laws greater than 10 commandments: the Law of the Spirit of Life, not Moses that is that of condemnation.

whatever,
But know that this secular world that we are living is now God's kingdom. we ain't going anywhere.
the bible says, the Glory of God has filled this earth just like the water covereth the see

twosquare:
new jerusalem. And it is not meant for everybody.

that's true!
it is not meant for everybody.
But everybody in Christianity are already there

flexybobo:

How are we sure that all these revelation are not figurative statements?

they are actually figurative.
that's why i say revelation is a dream or fiction, each of those statements something natural, not spirit.
Revelation is not a scaring book, they represent what has already happened 2000 yrs ago.
life on earth continues

paxonel:

whatever,
But know that this secular world that we are living is now God's kingdom. we ain't going anywhere.
the bible says, the Glory of God has filled this earth just like the water covereth the see

a prophecy that will soon come to pass but hasn't yet. Those that will spread the web of that glory are people because they are the carriers of the glory on whom it rested like the Shekinah on the two tablets. the secular world is not His Kingdom yet, it still belongs to Satan. But God wants to set free this secular world through His sons that shall rise and after it has tasted God's Kingdom, Jesus will destroy this secular world, even along with the heavens. Then, the world to come will emerge.

When God's Kingdom comes, you will know...all these nonsense you are seeing in the so called secular world will come to a halt, the civilization of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil will be cut down.

twosquare:
Jesus defeated death and same key He gave for everyone to defeat death...the reason people still die is because they have not tap into the knowledge which Christ made available that you may not die( I mean physically). Those who die in the Lord slept, not die per say. But dying physically is ignorance because we have not walked by that very Knowledge. When we do, we won't have any iota of death in our system. What Christ came to do is to show men and teach men how not to die(he wasn't teaching religion but Spirit). Satan took like 800+ yrs to teach Adam how to die...and even before Christ came in the flesh, some people learnt that secret from Him in ages past and skipped death. People like Enoch, Melchizedek, Elijah, and after Him John the beloved and some first century christians that weren't recorded.

If any person tells you that you're meant to die, tell him or her you've died in Christ and your burial ground is in Jerusalem. It is a place to start and if you keep walking and access this secrets by revelation, you will skipped just as those before you did. Skipping death in the coming days will be so normal that if you die a hundred yrs old, you will be regarded as unlucky.

We have some of these people in our midst and some claimed to have met them.....the Ever Living Ones like the desert fathers, Enoch, clouds of witnesses, like the 2men( not 2 angels) seen at the mount of Galilee when Jesus ascended etc. So, death has been defeated, we are only being cheated.

that's true!
we are crucified with Christ

Nonsense! Heaven is a place in the clouds with streets and gates of gold and rubies.clothes! white as snow sparkling as diamond blowing a trumpet of gold dancing! and singing! around the throne of the lord for all eternity

paxonel:

they are actually figurative.
that's why i say revelation is a dream or fiction, each of those statements something natural, not spirit.
Revelation is not a scaring book, they represent what has already happened 2000 yrs ago.
life on earth continues

You know, though we were redeemed on the cross it do not end there, our final redemption is when Jesus will come on the last day.
Revelation 22:7 Jesus says Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.
So, Jesus is coming

flexybobo:


You know, though we were redeemed on the cross it do not end their, our final redemption is when Jesus will come on the last day.
Revelation 22:7 Jesus says Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.
So, Jesus is coming

your redemption was concluded at the cross,
Jesus says, it is finish.
nothing else to do.
no last day coming,
life continues.
the kingdom of God has no end.
And i say Jesus has always been coming at the death of every man to judge men,after he redeemed men .
it is appointed once for men to die, after that judgment.
that judgment you see in revelation is a continuous process,no end, as long as men continue to die on earth.
The kingdom of God(heaven ) on earth has no end

paxonel:

your redemption was concluded at the cross,
Jesus says, it is finish.
nothing else to do.
no last day coming,
life continues.
the kingdom of God has no end.
And i say Jesus has always been coming at the death of every man to judge men,after he redeemed men .
it is appointed once for men to die, after that judgment.
that judgment you see in revelation is a continuous process,no end, as long as men continue to die on earth.
The kingdom of God(heaven ) on earth has no end

what do you understand by the resurrection of the death? Did you think we will resurrect just like Jesus resurrected to remain on this sinful earth?
Then what are we saved from if we are not saved from this sinful world?