jl115:

Firstly a definition is a definition,Nigeria is in a civil war FACT!so very sorry mate!!

"Nigeria's economy has been growing steady at 6-7% oil price just got it down to around 5&. The economy is greatly diversified, you much Oyibo trash."
Nigeria's expected growth was revised from 7% to 4,8% in 2015,and even that at this stage seems to be an overestimate!
And no!! Your economy is not diversified 80% of your National income is dependent on Oil!!So you better hope the oil prices start rising...and fast!!

And btw our economy grew by 4.1% in the last quarter of 2014.

"Funny when I read all your online tabloids after Nigeria was declared the biggest economy in africa. I was atually shocked that it took many South Africans by surprise, both individuals and institutions."

Jap!I was shocked,I was shocked that a country with 180 million people and huge oil reserves took so fvking long to pass a country with only 50 million people and No! oil reserves!

Technically there GDP had supased us years ago. Just took them years to figure it out.

EVarn:
hehehehe....feeding fat on UN allowance.

hahaha...AU mate!!

andrewza:


Technically there GDP had supased us years ago. Just took them years to figure it out.

True!! When they rebased their economy,they added 83% to their GDP!

EVarn:
Perhaps the trenches were a little too elevated,narrow and linear given the environment,generally,i'll admit that the trenches were a little hastily dug by less experienced personnels{perhaps CJTF men}.
As for ammo storage,i see nothing wrong with the way ammo are stored or even the mg-nest for that matter,the location of that garrison is near he frontline,therefore you cannot expect to see the level of organisation that would be normally present in a barrack or base,ammunitions are regularly evacuated as many times as they are stored.

Vice said that those men had been holding the town "since the war began" so those positions have been there for years now. They should be extremely sophisticated by now.

The MG nest being elevated makes it a nice target for recoiless grenades and easy suppression.

Ammo is a disaster waiting to happen - a stray mortar or tracer round could set it off, and a couple tonnes of explosives going off in the middle of your base during an attack is not something you want to happen. Ideally the majority would be distrubited along hard points in the trenches (so you dont have to run off to get more in battle) and the rest would be stored in a number of heavily dug in bunkers strategically located around the base.

jl115:

hahaha...AU mate!!

ah..AU it is then

EVarn:
What is peasantly about them?,surely you can see that those guys in the pictures were not in a combat atmosphere.moreover,some of the guys in the background belong to the Civilian Joint Task Force,and are simply assisting the military in keeping stock of ammunitions and other miscellanous materials.

One fire and the base goes boom. There is reason Ammo is kept in a magazine or bunker or any where but in the open and laying around a accomdastion area. Safety.

I would understand random gear by people's trommels or lockers hell on there bunks even. But stacks of ammo. What would happen if a mortar hit the area with all that ammo.

Patchesagain:
Vice said that those men had been holding the town "since the war began" so those positions have been there for years now.They should be extremely sophisticated by now.
The MG nest being elevated makes it a nice target for recoiless grenades and easy suppression.
Ammo is a disaster waiting to happen - a stray mortar or tracer round could set it off, and a couple tonnes of explosives going off in the middle of your base during an attack is not something you want to happen.Ideally the majority would be distrubited along hard points in the trenches (so you dont have to run off to get more in battle) and the rest would be stored in a number of heavily dug in bunkers strategically located around the base.

And who is to say that there arent bunkers hidden around the location?,surely you dont expect the military to air such sensitive and strategic ammo depots and defense positions on a public video,it would be like handing over the blueprint of the garrison to the enemy

EVarn:
And who is to say that there arent bunkers hidden around the location?,surely you dont expect the military to air such sensitive and strategic ammo depots and defense positions on a public video,it would be like handing over the blueprint of the garrison to the enemy

Then those bunkers where not on the from line.

If you have decacted ammo storage area then use it.

Patchesagain:

Vice said that those men had been holding the town "since the war began" so those positions have been there for years now. They should be extremely sophisticated by now.
The MG nest being elevated makes it a nice target for recoiless grenades and easy suppression.
Ammo is a disaster waiting to happen - a stray mortar or tracer round could set it off, and a couple tonnes of explosives going off in the middle of your base during an attack is not something you want to happen.

The position where the ammo are stacked is quite distant from the outer perimeter of the FOB,also it is on an elevated slope and out of range of low level projectile,so it is technically impossible for stray mortar to hit the ammo storage.
Moreover,topography must be considered,storing ammo in trenches and bunkers may be dangerous as the soil component of the north eastern region is extremely sulphurus.
it would also reduce mobility of ammunitions.

jl115:

Hahaha did you see the guy sleeping in between the ammunition pallets!!

A single direct mortar hit destroys the whole base as the explosion will not be channelled upwards.

Just Rebels!

EVarn:
The position where the ammo are stacked is quite distant from the outer perimeter of the FOB,also it is on an elevated slope and out of range of low level projectile,so it is technically impossible for stray mortar to hit the ammo storage.
Moreover,topography must be considered,storing ammo in trenches and bunkers may be dangerous as the soil component of the north eastern region is extremely sulphurus.
it would also reduce mobility of ammunitions.

You do know what a mortar is right? Because it don't care about terrain and they have a range of 2km for the small ones and above 10km for the big ones.

andrewza:

One fire and the base goes boom. There is reason Ammo is kept in a magazine or bunker or any where but in the open and laying around a accomdastion area. Safety.

I would understand random gear by people's trommels or lockers hell on there bunks even. But stacks of ammo. What would happen if a mortar hit the area with all that ammo.

As i said,there is low risk of accidental detonation because the storage facility is simply too distant to the outer perimeter where their is risk of mortar or attilery being fired.
Considering that ammunitions are regularly being moved,it would make sense for ammo to be stacked outside,especially if those ammunitions were recently delivered or are in transit to another frontline base.

andrewza:

Then those bunkers where not on the from line.
If you have decacted ammo storage area then use it.

Those ammunitions may be on transit,or newly delivered,therefore their is need for proper identification,sorting,and documentation before storage.

andrewza:

You do know what a mortar is right? Because it don't care about terrain and they have a range of 2km for the small ones and above 10km for the big ones.

You do know how big konduga FOB is right?,the chance of launching a mortar into the ammo storage is extremely low,even if it is a range of 10km{which is a scarce commodity for boko haram},moreover,terrain matters a lot,konduga FOB is on an elevated plain,as you can see in the video.

EVarn:
As i said,there is low risk of accidental detonation because the storage facility is simply too distant to the outer perimeter where their is risk of mortar or attilery being fired.
Considering that ammunitions are regularly being moved,it would make sense for ammo to be stacked outside,especially if those ammunitions were recently delivered or are in transit to another frontline base.

Did you watch the video with your ears closed?

The positions were attacked several times.

A surprise mortar attack, in less than 5 minutes insurgents can throw more than 4 bombs to a position and run.

They've been for a while.

EVarn:
You do know how big konduga FOB is right?,the chance of launching a mortar into the ammo storage is extremely low,even if it is a range of 10km{which is a scarce commodity for boko haram},moreover,terrain matters a lot,konduga FOB is on an elevated plain,as you can see in the video.

The Lieutenant said BH fighters crawl and get really close to the trenches to launch their attacks and the base has been attacked more than 8 times.

What are you talking about?

MikeCZAR:
Did you watch the video with your ears closed?
The positions were attacked several times.

A surprise mortar attack, in less than 5 minutes insurgents can throw more than 4 bombs to a position and run.
They've been for a while.

And how many times have mortar hit the ammo storage facility?=zero times,what does that tell you?.
konduga FOB have been attacked 13 times now,and never has a mortar ever hit the storage.

MikeCZAR:
The Lieutenant said BH fighters crawl and get really close to the trenches to launch their attacks and the base has been attacked more than 8 times.
What are you talking about?

Pray that God should cleanse you of every orubebe spirit tormenting your brain.Did i ever imply that konduga has never being attacked?,Infact,kondua is the most assaulted FOB in the whole north eastern theatre of war.where did you get your misguided impression from?.
lol,boko haram "crawl" and get really close to the trenches to launch attacks?,surely you were either sleeping or drunk while watching the video.
Do you think that battles are usually fought in front of the storage centre?.lol,BH incursions are usually intercepted 8-15km away from the town itself and then consequently repelled! PS: The FOB has been attacked 13 times,not 8 times.

Patchesagain:
dat CRAM doe

I understand that your perceived knowledge of the military is drawn primarily from the parade ground and from exhibitions, but........... You are as ignorant as they come. You have no idea how actual fighting is done.

Let me assist you, go to youtube, watch/download the following.

1)Royal marine commandos: mission Afganistan episode 1-6
2)Into the Hornets nest,
3)Never ending war, Afghanistan.

Henry120:


I understand that your perceived knowledge of the military is drawn primarily from the parade ground and from exhibitions, but........... You are as ignorant as they come. You have no idea how actual fighting is done.

Let me assist you, go to youtube, watch/download the following.

1)Royal marine commandos: mission Afganistan episode 1-6
2)Into the Hornets nest,
3)Never ending war, Afghanistan.

What exactly are you alluding to?

I have seen no 1.

Have you seen Armadillo? The Battle for Marja? Restrepo? Is this what winning looks like?

Vice in Syria? "War leaks" footage from Syria/Iraq/Ukraine?

MduZA:



if indeed this is what an average Nigerian thinks,all I can say is your population is still suffering from Ebola trauma ,if I were you I would be ashamed to mention HIV-aids related matters because your country has the highest figures when it comes to death caused by HIV...to me your country looks like a jungle,one thing that you should appreciate is we are hosting thousands and thousands of your brothers and sisters who are just wandering in our streets...many of them are street vendors ,barbers and shoe repairers...according to them street life in SA is much better unlike living like animals in their own country where people drink water from the same pool with pigs and goats...i can't believe a Nigerian is trying to lecture a south African about infrastructure....SA is not in your league..never will..you will only wish and dream...if you were hard working and creative people as you claim,some of the foreign companies that are milking your pockets dry were not supposed to be there in the first place,your country imports even mere tap water, it shows how pathetic your country is..the British built that zoo for you... Plus foreigners are the ones doing every infrastructural development in Nigeria but you are here showing fake muscles...anyway let me leave you in those dreams.. Indeed shoprite bread is enhancing your futile enthusiasm

..........

Zulu is own by Christopher boy, not your Zulu-Xhosa, bantu-Tswana savages. You keep talking about foreign companies. Boy, didn't anybody teach you globalisation and the muscle of the international market? Australian power generating firms are owned by mostly foreigners. That's what the game is.

It is unfortunate that the opinion of the average Nigerian mirrors the exact opinion of the world.

Desmond tutu and co is wishing for the return of apartheid regime where savages like you are kept in the bushes and mountains far away from civility.

A country where 90% black population is feeding on the labours of 5% Europeans.

Your shoprite is enjoying economic asylum in Nigeria. You are a pariah to development and progress and fair growth, so they are fleeing from you like the leprose wretch you are.

Your Julius Melamo admitted that they would prefer to seize white lands but "they run the economy"

I need clear facts from you, boy, not a goat drinking water from pool nonsense.

Because as we speak, you're still a 21st century slave with no history and identification.

do not forget that incompetence and violence is a byword for South Africans now.

Patchesagain:
look at these peasants

First of,

This video completely lays to waste the spurious allegations/ and multiple lies been peddled by Aljazeera, CNN, BBC et al, of Nigerian troops been under-equipped / under-resourced .

If the SANDF was a proper military that can afford aviation fuel/ tents, make sound strategic or tactical decisions or even shoot properly, then we would have been able to talk.

The trenches are primarily a defensive position to provide troops defending the FOB with cover. There is also no proof that these are the forward trenches. I mean, it's right in-front of the commanders office.

Above all, with 1300 enemy forces killed in Konduga FOB in a 3 consecutive attacks november of 2014, and 13 attacks in total, their tactics have proven to be flawless and impeccable.


Ammo, Ammo isn't stored outside. It's common sense actually, they are most likely recently delivered rounds, which would in-turn be sent inside for storage.

Seeing that the documentary was made at the heat of the offensive, those Ammo are meant for re-supply to friendly forces during operations.

The FOB is an abandoned secondary school in the middle of nowhere. Most schools in Africa don't come with bunkers like you have in israel.

Troops in their FOB can dress how they like. I've seen british forces engage the enemy in only underpants. Only Private friday has has a desert camo T-shirt, the others are all in woodland camo.

He has his AK-74M by his side at all times, same as his colleagues.

Perfect video, there is always room for improvements

MikeCZAR:
Rebels mate Rebels!

And this is what they say can stand up to the SA army?

Actual troops who have a combined battlefield experience of more than 10,000 years, relaxing in their FOB.

The SANDF is an inept, grossly inefficient, and truly incompetent parade ground force. The Nigerian military is a proper fighting group.

You can't compare the two. We can do photographs, but what is truly important for us is letting the enemy feel the pain.

Seleka rebels took your special forces to the cleaners, you should truly be scared of the damage we could bring on your poorly trained troops.

jl115:

SANDF base Sudan:

LMAO!!!!!!!

Is this what you call a base?

6 APC's for 1500 men
No Hesco
The sentry guy a perfect sitting duck.

LOL......... No wonder your poorly trained troops were disarmed and robbed in the Sudan.

Dumb fvcks!

Patchesagain:


Vice said that those men had been holding the town "since the war began" so those positions have been there for years now. They should be extremely sophisticated by now.

The MG nest being elevated makes it a nice target for recoiless grenades and easy suppression.

Ammo is a disaster waiting to happen - a stray mortar or tracer round could set it off, and a couple tonnes of explosives going off in the middle of your base during an attack is not something you want to happen. Ideally the majority would be distrubited along hard points in the trenches (so you dont have to run off to get more in battle) and the rest would be stored in a number of heavily dug in bunkers strategically located around the base.

They have ruthlessly messed up the enemy in konduga FOB. It means clearly that their tactics are flawless. no baseline change is required, only improvements done. They have dealt with the enemy on 13 different occasions.

The MG nest is protected with Sandbags.

They have, Igirigi, CS/VP3 MRAPs, IFV's, T-72's and T-55's tanks. They got bofors, D-30's, 105's. They got drones, attack Helicopers and Surveillance assets to call in. Of course, loads and loads of Ammo.

The Ammo isn't a disaster waiting to happen, it is well protected. After 13 different attacks, the enemy attacking with AA mounted on gun-trucks, RPG's, MG's and tanks.

Konduga FOB has proven to be one of the worlds most well defended FOB, and an ideal research topic.

andrewza:



One fire and the base goes boom. There is reason Ammo is kept in a magazine or bunker or any where but in the open and laying around a accomdastion area. Safety.

I would understand random gear by people's trommels or lockers hell on there bunks even. But stacks of ammo. What would happen if a mortar hit the area with all that ammo.

There is a reason why after 13 attacks with AA, RPG, tanks and mortar the base hasn't gone boom.

It's simply because Ammo is well stored.

MikeCZAR:
A single direct mortar hit destroys the whole base as the explosion will not be channelled upwards.

Just Rebels!

Calling the SANDF rebels is an insult to Seleka, RUF et al.

The SANDF are a band of poorly trained, poorly equipped bunch of literates running around in circles claiming to be a national army.

Pathetic.

lezz:
Zulu is own by Christopher boy, not your Zulu-Xhosa, bantu-Tswana savages. You keep talking about foreign companies. Boy, didn't anybody teach you globalisation and the muscle of the international market? Australian power generating firms are owned by mostly foreigners. That's what the game is.

It is unfortunate that the opinion of the average Nigerian mirrors the exact opinion of the world.

Desmond tutu and co is wishing for the return of apartheid regime where savages like you are kept in the bushes and mountains far away from civility.

A country where 90% black population is feeding on the labours of 5% Europeans.

Your shoprite is enjoying economic asylum in Nigeria. You are a pariah to development and progress and fair growth, so they are fleeing from you like the leprose wretch you are.

Your Julius Melamo admitted that they would prefer to seize white lands but "they run the economy"

I need clear facts from you, boy, not a goat drinking water from pool nonsense.

Because as we speak, you're still a 21st century slave with no history and identification.

do not forget that incompetence and violence is a byword for South Africans now.

you sound clueless that's why you seem not seeing what's happening in your country unless you are one of those typical ignorant Nigerians that we see on this forum...Desmond tutu and malema views are uniquely theirs and have rights to express them just like many Nigerians who wish to return to the Abacha regime...fact remains your country is pathetic that's why Nigerians are flocking to SA for green pastures,2 weeks back one of your cabinet ministers was seen queuing with ordinary south africans for medical checkup at the Chris hani baragwanath hospital,south African authorities were not aware of his visit,he flew all the way from your zooland to SA just for medical checkup,I have noticed that you mention south African tribes in every post,am not surprised....thats how you people play your primitive tribal games....i hear that igbos are no longer wanted in Lagos...yeses

EVarn:
And how many times have mortar hit the ammo storage facility?=zero times,what does that tell you?.
konduga FOB have been attacked 13 times now,and never has a mortar ever hit the storage.

Your army can't even handle ammo.

EVarn:
As i said,there is low risk of accidental detonation because the storage facility is simply too distant to the outer perimeter where their is risk of mortar or attilery being fired.
Considering that ammunitions are regularly being moved,it would make sense for ammo to be stacked outside,especially if those ammunitions were recently delivered or are in transit to another frontline base.

I mean a fire As in a normal fire.

Even if it is being moved it should be stored away. It is a freaking base not a tinny camp some where.

EVarn:
You do know how big konduga FOB is right?,the chance of launching a mortar into the ammo storage is extremely low,even if it is a range of 10km{which is a scarce commodity for boko haram},moreover,terrain matters a lot,konduga FOB is on an elevated plain,as you can see in the video.

It takes one lucky shot. Just one.