chuna1985:


I can see u have been circumcising people since 1705.

Africans did not convert to Judaism recently, even till today, Judaism is a very unpopular religion practiced by less than 25 million people in the world.

If u know bible history + history , u would have known about how Hebrews left their homeland completely n fled thousands of years ago.

i know the bible history but what has Bible history got to do with African history? Bible is to Semitic people, we have our sources here you should know that already

You said there are Hebrew tribes in some countries you mentioned, I was interested in more information.
I noted South Africa where the Jews there only migrated recently, and some Igbos in Nigeria only converted to judaism recently
Older converts like Falasha Jews of Ethiopia aren't Hebrews either
As for Mali, I know of the conspiracy to steal the Songhai empire as a Hebrew achievement but it's all unproven


Most of the lost Hebrew tribes have formed clans in Yemen, Egypt and Morocco not Sub-saharan Africa
if there are sub-Saharan Hebrews it would found among the Lemba

macof:



i know the bible history but what has Bible history got to do with African history? Bible is to Semitic people, we have our sources here you should know that already

You said there are Hebrew tribes in some countries you mentioned, I was interested in more information.
I noted South Africa where the Jews there only migrated recently, and some Igbos in Nigeria only converted to judaism recently
Older converts like Falasha Jews of Ethiopia aren't Hebrews either
As for Mali, I know of the conspiracy to steal the Songhai empire as a Hebrew achievement but it's all unproven


Most of the lost Hebrew tribes have formed clans in Yemen, Egypt and Morocco not Sub-saharan Africa
if there are sub-Saharan Hebrews it would found among the Lemba

Very true

macof:



i know the bible history but what has Bible history got to do with African history? Bible is to Semitic people, we have our sources here you should know that already

You said there are Hebrew tribes in some countries you mentioned, I was interested in more information.
I noted South Africa where the Jews there only migrated recently, and some Igbos in Nigeria only converted to judaism recently
Older converts like Falasha Jews of Ethiopia aren't Hebrews either
As for Mali, I know of the conspiracy to steal the Songhai empire as a Hebrew achievement but it's all unproven


Most of the lost Hebrew tribes have formed clans in Yemen, Egypt and Morocco not Sub-saharan Africa
if there are sub-Saharan Hebrews it would found among the Lemba

And some igbos converted to Judaism recently. Lol, nice.

macof:



So ilorin is your source for Yoruba DNA? What happened to Ile-Ife, Ijebu-ode, Abeokuta? Even in that ilorin a typical family would still be 60% Yoruba ancestry regardless if they claim Fulani or Bariba
Ilorin is more Yoruba than others??

Your first link is dubious and unreliable
It not only tries to claim Niger-Congo speakers but Khoisan of southern Africa and Eastern Africans too

Btw it didn't categorically state or mention any Eurasian gene type in Yoruba, rather it claimed Yoruba are a source of admixture with Eurasians in central Africa

Forward everything you have written here to the appropriate websites. Why illorin? Did you see the other Yoruba fulani descendants. I provided the links,and you are still writing nonesense. Go and sue them!

macof:

what intermarriage? how many Yorubas are product of intermarriage with Fulani or Hausa? I can tell you a very insignificant few in Oyo but mostly Ilorin
And how come such are used as standard for the entire Yoruba? That's dubious


If Yoruba are completely sub-Saharan African, how does your Eurasian DNA claim fit in? it's simple mathematics isn't it?
You cannot be completely of sub-Saharan DNA and still have Eurasian DNA



ps. We would still address how DNA originating from Eurasian entered fulani

You don't think before writing. Yoruba men were sampled and a very slight eurasia dna was found in them. Does it mean that all yorubas have eurasia gene? The history between your slave masters,the fulanis is enough to introduce this gene. Yes,you can be subsaharan and still carry admixtures. I already explained that. You are only draging this thread.

Ihuomadinihu:

You don't think before writing. Yoruba men were sampled and a very slight eurasia dna was found in them. Does it mean that all yorubas have eurasia gene? The history between your slave masters,the fulanis is enough to introduce this gene. Yes,you can be subsaharan and still carry admixtures. I already explained that. You are only draging this thread.

Hold on right there, Fulani people don't have Eurasian genes. This inferiority complex has got to go. We have Senegambian Sahelian genes

macof:

what intermarriage? how many Yorubas are product of intermarriage with Fulani or Hausa? I can tell you a very insignificant few in Oyo but mostly Ilorin
And how come such are used as standard for the entire Yoruba? That's dubious


If Yoruba are completely sub-Saharan African, how does your Eurasian DNA claim fit in? it's simple mathematics isn't it?
You cannot be completely of sub-Saharan DNA and still have Eurasian DNA



ps. We would still address how DNA originating from Eurasian entered fulani

Didn't happen

macof:



i know the bible history but what has Bible history got to do with African history? Bible is to Semitic people, we have our sources here you should know that already

You said there are Hebrew tribes in some countries you mentioned, I was interested in more information.
I noted South Africa where the Jews there only migrated recently, and some Igbos in Nigeria only converted to judaism recently
Older converts like Falasha Jews of Ethiopia aren't Hebrews either
As for Mali, I know of the conspiracy to steal the Songhai empire as a Hebrew achievement but it's all unproven


Most of the lost Hebrew tribes have formed clans in Yemen, Egypt and Morocco not Sub-saharan Africa
if there are sub-Saharan Hebrews it would found among the Lemba

And Igbos converted to judaism recently,lol. All the evidence of this connection was discovered recently? Circumcision was practiced recently? Linguistic connection was only discovered recently? Lol.
Same gene marker was discovered recently? All the authors that independently compared the hebrew and igbo culture,did so recently?

Fulaman198:


Hold on right there, Fulani people don't have Eurasian genes. This inferiority complex has got to go. We have Senegambian Sahelian genes

There is evidence of eurasia gene in fulani. You have a different gene marker,pls check ur Mtdna genes. Looking up your haplogroup is not inferiority complex,it's basic knowledge.

Ihuomadinihu:

There is evidence of eurasia gene in fulani. You have a different gene marker,pls check ur Mtdna genes. Looking up your haplogroup is not inferiority complex,it's basic knowledge.

All of which are not from credible websites/sources. Fulani people have been in the West African region for at least 10,000 years (predating most groups in West Africa). So there is no possible way that we have "Eurasian" DNA. It's all nonsense. White people are no longer trying to claim us and lie and say that we are mixed. We are just as Senegambian as our Serer and Wolof brothers/sisters.

Fulaman198:


All of which are not from credible websites/sources. Fulani people have been in the West African region for at least 10,000 years (predating most groups in West Africa). So there is no possible way that we have "Eurasian" DNA. It's all nonsense. White people are no longer trying to claim us and lie and say that we are mixed. We are just as Senegambian as our Serer and Wolof brothers/sisters.

There is no nonesense in any of that. In 'recent' history you may have ''migrated'' from senegambia,parts of your dna cluster to West Africans. But you can't deny the eurasian genes discovered in your dna. That does not make you less West African.

Ihuomadinihu:

There is no nonesense in any of that. In 'recent' history you may have migrated from senegambia,parts of your dna cluster to West Africans. But you can't deny the eurasian genes discovered in your dna. That does not make you less African.

No, you are wrong there is complete nonsense on that especially since there are lots of documentaries on it. Are you trying to imply you know my own people better than me? It's possible that we are even the oldest people in West Africa just like the video here says about the Wodaabe Fulani:

Fast forward to 12 or 13 minutes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCpsJxkUAVo

Also in this video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kZL2f-GrqY

Since it takes a white male to convince you of the inconceivable I decided to link the first video from Discovery Channel (a very reputable source) and also the 2nd video from a University documentary). There is no evidence whatsoever (because we have always been in Africa) that the Fulani people ever migrated from elsewhere outside of Africa (because it didn't happen).

Fulaman198:


This is the kind of inferiority complex that we don't need in Nigeria

oh hi bruv...the "lol" should be an indication that I was kidding. Don't attack me and all, I'm new here and trying to get around. Thank u

Fulaman198:


No, you are wrong there is complete nonsense on that especially since there are lots of documentaries on it. Are you trying to imply you know my own people better than me? It's possible that we are even the oldest people in West Africa just like the video here says about the Wodaabe Fulani:

Fast forward to 12 or 13 minutes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCpsJxkUAVo

Also in this video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kZL2f-GrqY

Since it takes a white male to convince you of the inconceivable I decided to link the first video from Discovery Channel (a very reputable source) and also the 2nd video from a University documentary). There is no evidence whatsoever (because we have always been in Africa) that the Fulani people ever migrated from elsewhere outside of Africa (because it didn't happen).

I don't know why am dealing with irrational people here. There is no nonesense in genetic studies. Afterall,we have black people in same field studying African genes. The problem with y'all is that you have no knowledge of what Africa is like. People have migrated into and out of Africa snice time immemorial. No race is racial pure,not to talk of etnic group and clans.
All white people are racist and Africans that have not made an effort to study their genes are right? You might want to check Dr Hassan Hisham and Ibrahim Muntaser E and see what they have to say about fulani.
And no,they are not whites. Snice you have an irrational fear of white.

Dencia's contact is easiest to get, get a cream, bleach yourself fire, if you have not done that already. I know some very good plastic surgeons across europe, they can point your nose for you, slice your lips up and flatten it up. If you are embarass about your endowment, they can reduce it or if you are mad that you are not, they would put your lips in them (oh, they are not enough), get silicons. After that you would be eurasian or akhenazi babe. finally, If GOD decides to bless you, He can gift you vertilago.
I don't know when Fulani or Yoruba beg to be eurasian. Apparently, you are not satisfied with being just Hebrew, You obviously want to be akhenazi.

Ihuomadinihu:

There is no nonesense in any of that. In 'recent' history you may have ''migrated'' from senegambia,parts of your dna cluster to West Africans. But you can't deny the eurasian genes discovered in your dna. That does not make you less West African.

gatiano:
Dencia's contact is easiest to get, get a cream, bleach yourself fire, if you have not done that already. I know some very good plastic surgeons across europe, they can point your nose for you, slice your lips up and flatten it up. If you are embarass about your endowment, they can reduce it or if you are mad that you are not, they would put your lips in them (oh, they are not enough), get silicons. After that you would be eurasian or akhenazi babe. finally, If GOD decides to bless you, He can gift you vertilago.
I don't know when Fulani or Yoruba beg to be eurasian. Apparently, you are not satisfied with being just Hebrew, You obviously want to be akhenazi.

Because i countered all your foolish racist claims?
Or because you have discovered that you know nothing about Nigerian people not to talk of European history?
Lol!
Because all your comments are fallacies and obnoxious?
Because you don't even know your origins? All the questions i threw at you are still unanwered. Lol. You only sneaked back to insult me. Try again!
Nonesense and fake historian!

Is like you only know the ashkenazi jews? Lol,there are different divisions of jews in the middle east and europe. Go and read!

I answered all your question according to my knowledge. You are yet to proof me wrong with facts. Besides, you are a liar, somebody must have been telling you that. You said some Black people are the scholars who carried out the statistics, only you didn't mention early enough that you were their lab rat.
Black person and euroasian family? You need love.

Ihuomadinihu:

Because i countered all your foolish racist claims?
Or because you have discovered that you know nothing about Nigerian people not to talk of European history?
Lol!
Because all your comments are fallacies and obnoxious?
Because you don't even know your origins? All the questions i threw at you are still unanwered. Lol. You only sneaked back to insult me. Try again!
Nonesense and fake historian!

You are a lunatic sha! Black people are now lab rats. You have not achieved 1% of what they have accomplished! Do you know the kind of insults,attacks and abuses these black scientist have gone through cos they fought white people and their perception of Africa. Lol! There is really no point replying you because you are just a confused fool! Historian my foot!

Ihuomadinihu:

And Igbos converted to judaism recently,lol. All the evidence of this connection was discovered recently? Circumcision was practiced recently? Linguistic connection was only discovered recently? Lol.
Same gene marker was discovered recently? All the authors that independently compared the hebrew and igbo culture,did so recently?

Absolutely correct, without a doubt Igbo Jews haven't been around up to 50years(what I meant by recent)
Even now there's only less than 5.000 Igbo Jews in existence

Circumcision probably began by Igbo ancestors before Hebrews even left their homeland of Ur..a time their people were uncircumcised
There's no linguistic connection
There's no gene maker found in a typical black man like an Igbo that comes from Middle east
Semitic and Congoid culture are so nothing alike


you are making claims here and as the burden of proof is on u I'll like u to answer my 5 questions that you've been avoiding

macof:


Absolutely correct, without a doubt Igbo Jews haven't been around up to 50years(what I meant by recent)
Even now there's only less than 5.000 Igbo Jews in existence

Circumcision probably began by Igbo ancestors before Hebrews even left their homeland of Ur..a time their people were uncircumcised
There's no linguistic connection
There's no gene maker found in a typical black man like an Igbo that comes from Middle east
Semitic and Congoid culture are so nothing alike


you are making claims here and as the burden of proof is on u I'll like u to answer my 5 questions that you've been avoiding

You are only repeating what i wrote before. No amount of draging this issue will solve your lack of understanding. Congoid cultures are not homogenous,so that is not valid.
I have already explained the uniqueness in igbo-jewish circumcision. Linguistic connections abound. Igbo and jewish genes come from same ancestors. At the end of the day,you are the one making the connections.

What black people are you talking about? The links that you provided are caucasian akhenazi full, No single Black scholar was present in their demented lies. their names again, joseph k pickrell, nick patterson, po ru loh, mark lipson and 2 others, do they sound black to you? i checked them out. so if they were to test, which black people did they use? blacks like you now. And that is if they even carried out any experiments.
There is no truth in them. Having said so, have you learnt anything about HeLa cells? learn that and know your value as a black person.

And are Igbos not euroasian too?

Ihuomadinihu:
You are a lunatic sha! Black people are now lab rats. You have not achieved 1% of what they have accomplished! Do you know the kind of insults,attacks and abuses these black scientist have gone through cos they fought white people and their perception of Africa. Lol! There is really no point replying you because you are just a confused fool! Historian my foot!

Smh

Ihuoma Please and Please Stop Entertaining These Fools.

If They Wanna Learn They Should Seek Their Source and Desired Channel.

Education Is Not Free, You Seem To Have Been Doling Out Knowledge For These Goons To Unreasonably Counter For Fun. Either Way,They Gain.

Its Such a Shame How The Dynamics Of This Thread Just Changed.

Macof Is a Reprobate Dunce, Empty and Unbelievably Foolish.

What Names and Clarification Does He Seek ?

Ihuomadinihu:

I don't know why am dealing with irrational people here. There is no nonesense in genetic studies. Afterall,we have black people in same field studying African genes. The problem with y'all is that you have no knowledge of what Africa is like. People have migrated into and out of Africa snice time immemorial. No race is racial pure,not to talk of etnic group and clans.
All white people are racist and Africans that have not made an effort to study their genes are right? You might want to check Dr Hassan Hisham and Ibrahim Muntaser E and see what they have to say about fulani.
And no,they are not whites. Snice you have an irrational fear of white.

You don't get it do you so let me write out a summarization of what I have said since you are being senile at this your young age.

Genetic studies are only credible if they are from a credible source. There is no actual factual evidence taken from credible sources that we Fulani people are mixed. There are genetic studies that have shown Fulani people to possess 99% West African DNA, there are genetic studies that have shown Fulani people to possess as low as 70% West African DNA. So which do you believe?

From what i have seen from you, you seem to look at and assess things from a very Eurocentric point of view and pretend that you are providing factual information when all you are doing is speculating.

No offence, because you started to go on the offensive with your defensive reaction, you are the one being irrational. If you have any knowledge in regards to science you would know that a large sample is always need to come to a justifiable conclusion (I say this as a scientist, though I trained in Computer Engineering). There are 30 million Fulani people from Senegal all the way to Sudan. There may be some genetic differences/variation as a result of intermarrying between local ethnic groups, however, there is no Eurasian in "Pure" Fulani DNA.

As I have mentioned on other posts, Fulanis have intermarried with the groups below:

1. Hausa
2. Mande
3. Tuareg
4. Songhai
5. Kanuri

The list is not just limited to those ethnic groups. However, those who are pure Fulani like me (Mbororo'en and the Wodaabe) do not have Eurasian DNA, it's bullcrap.

queridasally:
oh hi bruv...the "lol" should be an indication that I was kidding. Don't attack me and all, I'm new here and trying to get around. Thank u

Understood, I wasn't trying to attack you or your character and if I was, I am sorry. With that said, I just want Africans to be proud of who the are as a people.

Just Look How He Shamelessly And Stupidly Twisted This Thread To Suit His Condescending Argument For Fun and To Distort The Rhythm Of Fine Information .

Now He's Asking Questions To Learn ? Or To Refute ?

gatiano:
What black people are you talking about? The links that you provided are caucasian akhenazi full, No single Black scholar was present in their demented lies. their names again, joseph k pickrell, nick patterson, po ru loh, mark lipson and 2 others, do they sound black to you? i checked them out. so if they were to test, which black people did they use? blacks like you now. And that is if they even carried out any experiments.
There is no truth in them. Having said so, have you learnt anything about HeLa cells? learn that and know your value as a black person.

And are Igbos not euroasian too?

Check the black names i gave the fulani man. Try Cheik antah Diop,Dr Akanba , Dr.Lebouf. You are just a troll, it's even interesting that no one believes your trash.
Racist fool! The same whites are making headway and 100 million times better than you.

Fulaman198:


You don't get it do you so let me write out a summarization of what I have said since you are being senile at this your young age.

Genetic studies are only credible if they are from a credible source. There is no actual factual evidence taken from credible sources that we Fulani people are mixed. There are genetic studies that have shown Fulani people to possess 99% West African DNA, there are genetic studies that have shown Fulani people to possess as low as 70% West African DNA. So which do you believe?

From what i have seen from you, you seem to look at and assess things from a very Eurocentric point of view and pretend that you are providing factual information when all you are doing is speculating.

No offence, because you started to go on the offensive with your defensive reaction, you are the one being irrational. If you have any knowledge in regards to science you would know that a large sample is always need to come to a justifiable conclusion (I say this as a scientist, though I trained in Computer Engineering). There are 30 million Fulani people from Senegal all the way to Sudan. There may be some genetic differences/variation as a result of intermarrying between local ethnic groups, however, there is no Eurasian in "Pure" Fulani DNA.

As I have mentioned on other posts, Fulanis have intermarried with the groups below:

1. Hausa
2. Mande
3. Tuareg
4. Songhai
5. Kanuri

The list is not just limited to those ethnic groups. However, those who are pure Fulani like me (Mbororo'en and the Wodaabe) do not have Eurasian DNA, it's bullcrap.

Go through Cheik Diop's work. A real and educated woodabe historian,egyptologist and anthropologist,he has said a lot but Fulani/woodabe people. I don't care if you are annoyed,am only stating facts. You are only talking from the little knowledge you have. No Fulani is not as pure niger congo. Sorry!

PreciousBro:
Just Look How He Shamelessly And Stupidly Twisted This Thread To Suit His Condescending Argument For Fun and To Distort The Rhythm Of Fine Information .

Now He's Asking Questions To Learn ? Or To Refute ?

Nna,there are three sets of people here. Supremacist Racists,Tribalists and the proud empty vessles.

I've Never Seen Someone Subliminally Doubt A Source Of Information and Its Entire Body and Then Still Use Mini Of The Information He Got From Same Source To Buttress His Claim For Doubt,

Its Not Only Laughable But Absurdly Hypocritical.

Just Read The Lameness Of The Reprobate Monkeys On Here.

Claiming To Be Scientifically Learned But Portraying The Termite In Cap Habits lol

My God.!!!

I'm Really Not In The Mood Mehn....

Y'all Should Be The Luckiest Fools On Earth Right About Now

Ihuomadinihu:

Nna,there are three sets of people here. Supremacist Racists,Tribalists and the proud empty vessles.

I Don't Wanna Play Their Game, That's Why I Decided To Put a Halt On all The Squirming Displays From Their End.