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The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by Nobody: 12:25am On Apr 12, 2015 |
May be you have thought of it too. I don't know about you but I feel two different ways when I hear the messages of GRACE And that of HELLFIRE. How do you really feel when one walks up to you and began preaching to you on how hot the fires of hell is and the worms too... AND also what's the feeling you get when another keeps telling you about the Grace of God, how God isn't mad at you and how He loves you? Your contributions please. ![]() 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by Acekidc4(m): 12:30am On Apr 12, 2015 |
Let me siddon for here Small!! Will be Right Back to give my View concering this thread |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by Cutehector(m): 12:31am On Apr 12, 2015 |
emusmith:my broda by d time u read d book of apocalypse finish, u go think abt all d sins wey u don commit 4 Likes |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by Nobody: 12:34am On Apr 12, 2015 |
Cutehector: And after that? |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by missdebs(f): 12:59am On Apr 12, 2015 |
different stroke for different folks, for peter and other disciples it was a friendly call to salvation, for paul it was a 'not so nice' call, as long as a soul is saved 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by HrtBrkSteve(m): 2:25am On Apr 12, 2015 |
Grace n Hellfire, you say? Who cares anymore? Bro, right now, na the message off Money, how to make money, how to make more money, how to be wealthy ooo. 8 Likes |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by Nobody: 6:31am On Apr 12, 2015 |
missdebs: I understand the Paul conversion, I'm talking about the message and its impact. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by Nobody: 6:47am On Apr 12, 2015 |
HrtBrkSteve: Haha...Not that* |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by Cutehector(m): 7:40am On Apr 12, 2015 |
emusmith:u wil be bak to square one again ![]() 1 Like |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by Nobody: 7:45am On Apr 12, 2015 |
Cutehector: Hmm. I like your sincere reply bro. Everyone literally knows by now, hell is real and all... But is that enough to break the power of sin in their lives? 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by Cutehector(m): 7:52am On Apr 12, 2015 |
emusmith:not even a decimal of it can break d power of sin in our lives.... May d Lord hav mercy on us 2 Likes |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by Nobody: 9:48am On Apr 12, 2015 |
I think the fear of Hell fire is what makes people turn from their sinful ways and not the love of God through Grace. 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by Estimable(m): 9:48am On Apr 12, 2015 |
HELL FIRE. Is real, the Bible said it all 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by Emmalot121(m): 9:49am On Apr 12, 2015 |
Pls, look at how eternal fire was used here in the book of Jude, the fire was once with eternal effects. God is everlasting and LORD eternal. Eternal is only used to represent GOD. Jude 1 New International Version (NIV) 1 Jude, a servant of Jesus Christ and a brother of James, To those who have been called, who are loved in God the Father and kept for[ a ] Jesus Christ: 2 Mercy, peace and love be yours in abundance. The Sin and Doom of Ungodly People 3 Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt compelled to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to God’s holy people. 4 For certain individuals whose condemnation was written about[b ] long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord. 5 Though you already know all this, I want to remind you that the Lord[c ] at one time delivered his people out of Egypt, but later destroyed those who did not believe. 6 And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. 7 In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire. 8 In the very same way, on the strength of their dreams these ungodly people pollute their own bodies, reject authority and heap abuse on celestial beings. 9 But even the archangel Michael, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses, did not himself dare to condemn him for slander but said, “The Lord rebuke you!”[ d ] 10 Yet these people slander whatever they do not understand, and the very things they do understand by instinct—as irrational animals do—will destroy them. 11 Woe to them! They have taken the way of Cain; they have rushed for profit into Balaam’s error; they have been destroyed in Korah’s rebellion. 12 These people are blemishes at your love feasts, eating with you without the slightest qualm—shepherds who feed only themselves. They are clouds without rain, blown along by the wind; autumn trees, without fruit and uprooted—twice dead. 13 They are wild waves of the sea, foaming up their shame; wandering stars, for whom blackest darkness has been reserved forever. 14 Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about them: “See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones 15 to judge everyone, and to convict all of them of all the ungodly acts they have committed in their ungodliness, and of all the defiant words ungodly sinners have spoken against him.”[ e] 16 These people are grumblers and faultfinders; they follow their own evil desires; they boast about themselves and flatter others for their own advantage. A Call to Persevere 17 But, dear friends, remember what the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ foretold. 18 They said to you, “In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires.” 19 These are the people who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit. 20 But you, dear friends, by building yourselves up in your most holy faith and praying in the Holy Spirit, 21 keep yourselves in God’s love as you wait for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to bring you to eternal life. 22 Be merciful to those who doubt; 23 save others by snatching them from the fire; to others show mercy, mixed with fear—hating even the clothing stained by corrupted flesh. [f ] Doxology 24 To him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you before his glorious presence without fault and with great joy— 25 to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen. 10 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by shoturtrap(m): 9:49am On Apr 12, 2015 |
I don't believe he'll exist sha. 1 Like |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by howardriddle: 9:49am On Apr 12, 2015 |
dont you know that is the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance? - Rom 2:4 This is what preachers of today fail to grasp. Without God's goodness we are nothing. We wouldn't even be able to call ourselves Christians. The Goodness of God lead Paul to repentance not fear of hell. Heck, he could have cared less. Hence he described himself as a "Chief Sinner" Also, remember Romans 5:17 King James Version (KJV) 17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ. The Gospel of Hell preaches works. We cannot be saved by works note that. This gospel also subconscious instills fear of the devil and his demons which as Christians should be the furthest thing from our minds. This hell consciousness, gives the devil his power and causes us to sin more. Because according to St. Paul, the knowledge of sin, causes us to sin. The Gospel of Grace, is the only thing that can bring us to righteousness because "Not by works were we saved but by the free gifts of grace and righteousness". Funniest photos from around the web, once a week, in your inbox.>> 9 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by Nobody: 9:49am On Apr 12, 2015 |
The message of prosperity has more impact. It has made people invest more on the pastors,through tithes,and offering than any other business. 7 Likes |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by Top78965: 9:51am On Apr 12, 2015 |
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Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by Tobyrickz(m): 9:51am On Apr 12, 2015 |
Good news is no news. Ppl are mostly agitated n moved by bad news. 1 Like |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by free2ryhme: 9:51am On Apr 12, 2015 |
emusmith: ![]() ![]() |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by Idrismusty97(m): 9:52am On Apr 12, 2015 |
Both. God loves you so much that he created hell just in case you don't love him back! ![]() 7 Likes |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by Nobody: 9:52am On Apr 12, 2015 |
Hell fire is real Quran talked so! |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by FEARLESSDUDE: 9:53am On Apr 12, 2015 |
emusmith:both 2 Likes |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by ojnnaco(m): 9:53am On Apr 12, 2015 |
Cutehector:What's d book talking about ? 1 Like |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by Nobody: 9:54am On Apr 12, 2015 |
For now there is no hell fire........I wonder why they keep preaching hell while they are sent to preach grace.. |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by Kingsasian(m): 9:54am On Apr 12, 2015 |
When I was growing up the message of Hell itself frightens me. As a matter of fact I use to see it as a message of fear and for days I keep imagining what the torments and horrors is like but the message of Grace doesn't touch me at all. I see it as one of those usual messages. 3 Likes |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by Nobody: 9:58am On Apr 12, 2015 |
HrtBrkSteve: when you die will you carry even one naira to where ever you are going to? think and think again. if you still can't think, drink chilled water and think again 6 Likes |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by Emmalot121(m): 9:58am On Apr 12, 2015 |
. Idrismusty97:. There is nowhere in the Bible that states that hell is till eternity. Jesus warned that we should not fear those that can destroy the body but HE that can destroy body and soul in hell. A parable of Jesus about a man planting a vineyard and the enemy coming to sow weed among the good plants, which the man knowing this, suffered not to destroy the weeds lest the good ones be destroyed. The man waited until the vine was ripe for harvest and destroyed the weed in fire. Do you burn weeds forever? Another is the story of Noah's Ark, where God destroyed the people once, whose difference from the pending destruction is fire, are they still being destroyed today in water? They were killed once with eternal effects: they died once and died forever, the same way it is impossible for weed burnt to rise again cos the effect of the Burning had eternal effect. To nail it on the head, in order to clarify doubt Jude 1:7 called the fire of Sodom eternal fire! Is Sodom burning today? Certainly not. They were burnt once with eternal effects. Though some may point to the Story of Lazarus and the rich man but I want us to know it was only for the purpose of admonition and not for the purpose of telling us what hell is about. The LORD shall destroy evil men and affliction shall not rise second time. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
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