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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:51pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Henry120: No, a doctor for 200 troops: Soldiers had to ask French parachutists for essential equipment, with only one doctor present, with a backpack for medical support. http://www.iol.co.za/news/politics/sandf-names-troops-killed-in-car-1.1492238 You dont know the difference between a doctor and a medic? Or you cant read? Dude, your lies are so obvious and so pathetic. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:53pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Henry120: - 200 men - against 3000 - 14-18 hour battle - 13 dead on our side - around 500 dead on theirs - all our objectives met - they offered the cease fire You wish your military could achieve that. Your whole Division of 20 000 men with tanks, artillery, jets and attack helicopters are as effective as 200 South African paratroopers, 4 12.5 HMG's and a half battery of 60mm mortars ![]() ![]() ![]() Meanwhile, 1300 dead, 1,5 million displaced and a Kingdom the size of Belgium carved out in your own country. You suffered 35 Banguis!! 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:56pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Patchesagain: A Doctor with only a backpack is a medic you fool. Okay, your doctor only had a backpack. That's all the supplies he had. He didn't even have the essentials. That's all the supplies he had for 400 troops....... Like this is any better. Please don't cry, I can't offer you wipes. Pathetic force. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 4:57pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Henry120: The Gripens will not carry air to ground weapons when they deploying currently, as. they carry fuel tanks. They have a C-130 support aircraft carrying bombs and other stuff pods etc. They carried IRIS-T SRAAMs. Again the SANDF had a contract with a certain charter company. From your source: It shows the SA forces fought well and only took casualties during a ambush. The top brass? 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:59pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Nigerian troops on the run https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXbQ4aN2B5U And again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY36o7O6LpY And again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WxPK6xdukQ “There’s so many issues,” said Alkasim Abdulkadir, a Nigerian freelance journalist and security analyst, citing the lack of a unified command structure, poor equipment, low morale and allegations of corruption among commanders as key reasons behind the military’s failures." - Al Jazeera Last year, Nigerian troops were deployed as part of an African Union mission to Mali - they arrived without transport, armour, very little ammunition, and almost no communications equipment. - BBC You had to rely on Chad, Cameroon and white mercenaries to liberate you. Whom is incompetant? 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:00pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: No, the evidence shows your troops are an incredibly incompetent lot. Your Generals are plain clueless. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 5:01pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Henry120:what doctrine? Rebel doctrine? The SANDF is more than well equipment when compared to all sub-saharan armies. Thee SANDF has 800+ APCs. And more 600+ IFVs. Backed by Samil trucks. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:02pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Henry120: The essentials are contained in the medbag And will have been supplimented by the equipment held by medics on the ground Multiple Medics and doctors were present: Sergeant Mampa Serole Colman, Corporal Ngobese Mandla Maxwell and Corporal Nkoana Molatelo Alphina were awarded the Nkwe ya Boronse decoration for valour 13 Other members of 7 Medical Battalion group received various medals for their participation in the Battle of Bangui. Thats a total of: 16 medics |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:02pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Henry120: How? Tell us how. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:07pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Patchesagain: Your troops receiving medals for cowardice!!!! What a country. 400 troops had only 1 bag of medical supplies, even this didn't contain the essentials. LOL. "Soldiers had to ask French parachutists for essential equipment, with only one doctor present with a backpack for medical support." 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:09pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Patchesagain: [b] Pretoria - Operational commanders have painted a picture of chaos around the mission in the Central African Republic that claimed the lives of 15 South African soldiers - putting the blame squarely on the shoulders of the military’s top brass. According to the Sunday Times, logistical blunders and feuding among military bosses led to South Africa’s ‘Mogadishu’ in March last year. However, the military has never revealed before that all the deaths happened in a single ambush on 23 March last year when about 100 paratroopers were being transported in open vehicles through rebel territory. Details came to light after interviews were conducted with survivors during a probe into the incident. The newspaper reports that field commanders had pleaded for armoured personnel carriers two months before the ambush, that they had asked for sniper rifles, Rooivalk attack helicopters, Oryx transport helicopters and a reconnaissance aircraft - none of which were supplied. Troops painted a picture of chaotic supply of weapons and equipment while dual reporting lines contributed to the logistical chaos while force commander Colonel William Dixon gave a horrific description of the lead up to the final assault that claimed the lives of the South Africans. had become a target for reportedly helping CAR President Francois Bozize flee the country into the Democratic Republic of the Congo. According to the report, top structures were warned by senior SANDF officers that the CAR mission amounted to "suicide". SA Air Force aircraft were also put on standby but due to financial constraints the Gripens were not armed with weapons with an attack capacity. SANDF soldiers reportedly struggled on the ground due to lack of logistics and air support. Soldiers had to ask French parachutists for essential equipment, with only one doctor present with a backpack for medical support. "A source with the United Nations in Bangui said the South Africans had asked for assistance from French forces to help them leave the country." http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE92M0AU20130324?irpc=932 "Bangui - South African soldiers in the Central African Republic are seeking safe passage to the airport after taking heavy losses during fighting with Seleka rebels, Reuters reports." "Amy Martin of the UN's humanitarian agency, OCHA, told the BBC World Service that the SA troops had retreated to their barracks and were seeking safe passage to the airport." "Seleka spokesperson Eric Massi said the rebels had broken through a line of South African soldiers during their push into the city." [/b] 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:09pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Henry120: Where does it say 400 men? Where does it say the backpack did not contain the essentials? You didnt read the part where 16 medics were present? they have their own equipment. The word of the media is not the word of god. And yes, 200 men who stop over 3000 men dead in their tracks for 18 hours and inflict 500 casualties on them deserve medals for valour. Maybe if your men did the same you would not need to call on mercenaries to win the war for you ![]() ![]() |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:10pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Henry120: Ok, you can post that as many times as you want. It doesnt answer my questions. How? Why? Is this all you can do? Have we rap.ed you so hard that this is all you have? Cherry picking peices of articals and regurgitating them over and over? Go pay your taxes, South African mercenaries want to collect their monthly paychecks. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 5:12pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Henry120: The president, for example, was decisive throughout a crisis that would have seen many other political leaders fail. A request for assistance was received on December 29; he was briefed on the 30th; the Minister of Defence was in Bangui on the 31st; the first troops arrived on January 2. Command and control worked as it should: force and mission commanders were appointed and – for the first time in this writer’s memory – were left alone to do their job without interference. The minister of defence spent the critical hours in the operations room without interfering, but helping decisively at key points. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:12pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: No, they are not. The Nigerian military has more than 1500 APCs More 2000 (Tanks, IFV,AFV,) Backed up by Trucks, utility vehicles. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:17pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Patchesagain: Yes, like I've always said, the ineptitude of the SANDF doesn't end with the poorly trained ground troops. Incompetence and outright cluelessness goes all the way top. Your 400 troops (special forces) were brushed aside by cleaners and little kids. Again, not a single blade of evidence shows your troops killed any seleka rebels, not one. Mercenaries, no evidence of any in Nigeria. The Nigerian government hired a Nigerian PMC. The Vice video proves this. Operational commanders have painted a picture of chaos around the mission in the Central African Republic that claimed the lives of 15 South African soldiers - putting the blame squarely on the shoulders of the military’s top brass. According to the Sunday Times, logistical blunders and feuding among military bosses led to South Africa’s ‘Mogadishu’ in March last year. No evidence of C2. 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 5:20pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Henry120:Matching to Bama on foot with 1500 APCs available with different camos? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() In a conventional war most of the time if soldiers are matching on foot the tank are kept behind them. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:22pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: Operational commanders have painted a picture of chaos around the mission in the Central African Republic that claimed the lives of 15 South African soldiers - putting the blame squarely on the shoulders of the military’s top brass. According to the Sunday Times, logistical blunders and feuding among military bosses led to South Africa’s ‘Mogadishu’ in March last year. No evidence of C&C. What situation room....... LMAO !!!!!! 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:26pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: They watched to bama with all their supply vehicles behind them. The Tanks only moved forward to provide firepower and cover. Let's talk about SANDF supply ......... Rightly the lack of it, which turned your troops to beggars of essential materials. LOL!!! Your run a clownish sub-par rebel force. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 5:34pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Henry120: why do you like to balloon the numbers of SA troops deployed to CAR? How is that going to benefit you because only 250 soldiers were deployed. The number that does not even make a quota of SANDF troops. Meanwhile, The whole Nigerian army, air force et al asked assistance from SA mercenaries to defeat BH. Don't forget that one as well. In Bangui, the French deployed over 4000 troops in contrast to SA that deployed only 250 soldiers. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 5:35pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Henry120: BH has killed over 1000 Nigerians soldiers. We lost only 15 soldiers. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 5:39pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Henry120: Where do you get 400 from? Can you see where your source is misleading you? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 5:46pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Henry120:Supply vehicles consisting of hilux bakkies and civilians trucks. Your tanks would a nice meal for tank hunting force. Lack of what? The supply capability the SANDF lacks is airlift which all sub-saharan air forces lack but that is being addressed. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 5:52pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Henry120: 280 troops with mainly light weapons and no armoured vehicles, found themselves facing attack by about 3 000 rebels, now competently led and supported by “technicals”, 30mm automatic grenade launchers and 73mm recoilless guns and with more to follow. Only the skill and courage of the South African troops forced Seleka to propose a ceasefire. The situation could have been restored. The reserve was quickly deployed to jumping-off points at Gemena in DRC and Entebbe; Rooivalk and Oryx helicopters were deployed to Gemena and Gripen fighters to Kinshasa. what is "C&C" or you mean C2 ? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:56pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
patches689: That Nigerian army Konduga base was 100% safe in 20 attacks and lost only one soldier but killed 1,000 enemy soldiers in 6 months. You are sitting down a laptop to criticize an army unit that won all it's battles and won a war in record time. Nothing ever went wrong with ammunition storage, the war is over, only you dream of an explosion inside the base. Go sell your nincompoop analysis to your SANDF inexperienced army, they would enjoy base defence and ammunition storage lecture from a mere Soweto civilian. Your dreams are becoming like narcotic hallucinations, your PHOTO 1 below is NOT human blond hair, it's a part of the pilot's collar neck region clothing and and kit. Your PHOTO 2 below shows you have overdose of cocaine inhaled through both your nose, ears, and eyes ! There are Nigerians with super light skin and almost white hands, see my own PHOTOS number 3 and 4. You must have been drugged overnight weekend and dumped in a bar toilet before you woke up to browse Nairaland, see your ugly Soweto face like that of Okafor in comedy ! .
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:06pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Does anyone know that Mokopa missile and Mupsaw secretly entered service with the SAAF? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 6:11pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
EVarn: Let's keep it as Botswana. Before they move they will need to recon the area. Small teams will probe and scout out the terrain and enemy. So now when Botswana opens fire they know that in that general area is a SA milltary camp. There are no bases in the area. So in a suprise attack the target would be camps. These are not big and not built to be defended against a attack. Another method is the use of a observer. The most destructive system in use by the military is the radio. Useing BH against Nigeria. A lone man could set up in a concealed postion and direct the mortar fire. If your mortar can see the enemy then you doing something wrong. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 6:11pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Patchesagain:Patches is getting angry and desperate again. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 6:16pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Msauza:What the world knows and acknowledge, South Africa denies. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:21pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
FighterPilot: Does anyone know that Su-30 Flanker jets with BVR missiles secretly entered service with NAF ? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:21pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Torgos and Mupsaw missiles, wepons that take on targets more than 300km away.
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:25pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
lezz: Patches689 has had a complete mental breakdown. The desperado can't come to terms with the ineptitude and incompetence of the SANDF. 1 Like |
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