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The Xenophobes Of South Africa by Nobody: 10:54pm On Apr 12, 2015
It will not be out of place to find on "Googling" XENOPHOBIA, that South Africa comes up somewhere in the mix, with the notoriety they've gained with their xenophobic attacks on BLACK AFRICAN migrants, as well as the frequency with which these attacks now occur.

Years back when the early episodes of the attacks started, mainly with Somali shop owners, it was easily attributed to the penchant of those shop owners to underprice their wares compared to the selling price of same goods by their South African counterparts, thereby running them out of business, as it seemed the Somalians were able to source their goods at cheaper costs across the border, or they had better credit lines than the native South Africans.

At the time, fewer eyebrows were raised because the affected were simple Somalians whose country had then become a failed state with no one to speak on their behalf. The lack of political will by the South African government to rein in and prosecute the perpetrators of these dastardly acts, beyond mere rhetoric, also led to recurrent attacks of the kind against other immigrants, beyond the simple petty traders and shop owners, many times with the active connivance of the security agencies, or while the latter stood by and watched, only to later cart away the burnt carcasses of victims of xenophobic attack-related lynchings.

In the latest attack in Durban, most of the victims were from the Democratic Republic of Congo, just like the many before it affected black migrants from other countries in Africa, suggestive of something that is systematically planned and fully executed to the latter, with strings pulled by very powerful individuals in government, traditional societies and the likes; and not some random mob action as many would like for the world to believe.

There is no gainsaying that South Africa is an economic hub in Africa, and as such, as with countries in its position, tend to draw to it, all manner of people from across the continent, and even beyond seeking to partake of the many opportunities it affords, legitimately or not.

Yet in failing to nip in the bud these attacks, South Africa despite economic progress achieved so far, enough to now be considered a member of the BRICS (Economic Bloc consisting of BRAZIL, RUSSIA, INDIA, CHINA and SOUTH AFRICA) Economies, continues to lag behind because of the shadow cast on its growth by this now routine show of shame by its citizens.

In recent days, even University students as well as members of some opposition parties in South Africa have gone on rampage, pulling down statues and relics of the COLONIAL (by the British) and APARTHEID (of White Minority rule) past, while defacing others, as if that will help turn their economic fortunes (which has consistently dipped with the current government, worsening an already bad situation) around, with the government feigning disinterestedness, as the situation seems to keep the people from blaming everything else (migrants, colonial history and apartheid past) but it (the Zuma-led government) for their woes.

What still shocks many Africans today, is that while under apartheid rule, many of the countries whose citizens now suffer abuse, even death at the hands of BLACK South Africans provided feeding, succour, hope, accommodation, education amongst many others for South Africans in exile, especially families of many of those in power today, who have rather elected to be silent, while the citizens they have helped to impoverish go a-immolating their fellow Africans.

America is great today because it opened its arms to the best of the nations, as with great Empires before it, such as the Greek and Roman. If the capacity of South Africans have been built better than those of the migrants, no company will be looking to employ a migrant over an indigenous Bantu in South Africa (except for reason of wage discrepancy, where the migrant may be paid much less). If South Africa wants to continue to be an International Player in the scheme of things, it must recognize that people from other places will continually be drawn to it, and it must continue to adjust and modify its game to accommodate them, as well as preparing her own people to challenge themselves and not just waltz around with the FEELING/SENSE OF ENTITLEMENT that currently pervades their thinking today, even as such amongst them that are the laziest of humans ever created.

South Africans must take their future in their hands, and stop blaming everyone else for their situation. The government must also rise to the occasion by formulating policies that will continue to reduce the wealth gap between the haves (white minority) and the have nots (black majority), to reduce the discontent always felt by the latter. Failure to do this will spell doom for this young democracy and will portray blacks as very incapable of governing themselves let alone others for that matter, confirming what the Boers have always thought of the indigenous Bantus, and of blacks elsewhere.

The African Union, AU besides simply condemning (though I am not sure I have heard any, from the Chairperson of the AU- South African Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma) the Xenophobic Attacks, must wield the "big stick" of sanctions to whip South Africa into line, by means sure to spur the government into action to ensure that this be the last time stories of this sort make the headlines (starting from having the issue of this South African brand of Xenophobia discussed at a Session of the AU), from the same country that produced a Demi-God in the person of NELSON MANDELA, as these acts are capable of making him turn in his grave in sadness at the image his people have continued to portray of themselves.

No nation willing to be great, will treat strangers and migrants the way South Africans are currently treating the strangers and migrants in their midst, the same goes for so called megacities like Lagos in Nigeria, where politics recently drove a wedge between the constituents tribes and groupings that make the state the economic hub that it is today, especially following the unsavoury outbursts of a traditional ruler, whose intents and purposes cannot be totally said to be in the interest of the majority of the populace over which he holds sway. The choice is before Africans to make, either to remain in the parochial or accept that the world has become a global village, and hence move in the direction of the times, where the new civilization and greatness lies.

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Re: The Xenophobes Of South Africa by igbo2011(m): 11:03pm On Apr 12, 2015
We only prey on weak not powerful ethnicities.
Re: The Xenophobes Of South Africa by bobo9ice: 11:35pm On Apr 12, 2015
Education is Key to addressing this issue ...
SA is my second home... Its a pity.

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Re: The Xenophobes Of South Africa by ifyan(m): 11:40pm On Apr 12, 2015
igbo2011:
We only prey on weak not powerful ethnicities.

True talk bro.

The Lord is our strength.

Did you. ........
Re: The Xenophobes Of South Africa by igbo2011(m): 12:44am On Apr 13, 2015
ifyan:


True talk bro.

The Lord is our strength.

Did you. ........

Does God exist?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yK3EdnC9Vs
Re: The Xenophobes Of South Africa by ifyan(m): 1:38am On Apr 13, 2015
igbo2011:


Does God exist?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yK3EdnC9Vs


Of course God Almighty exist.

Don't you think there a...
Re: The Xenophobes Of South Africa by igbo2011(m): 2:11am On Apr 13, 2015

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Re: The Xenophobes Of South Africa by Nobody: 6:03am On Apr 13, 2015
this country na time bomb... and i pity their economy most. very susceptable compared to nigeria.

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Re: The Xenophobes Of South Africa by donodion(m): 11:17am On Apr 13, 2015
iterator24:
this country na time bomb... and i pity their economy most. Lvery susceptable compared cool to nigeria.

Just watch
Re: The Xenophobes Of South Africa by ifyan(m): 11:46am On Apr 13, 2015
iterator24:
this country na time bomb... and i pity their economy most. very susceptable compared to nigeria.

Could this be that if not for the WHITE S.AFRICA would have look like.......

Source: from Bo......
Re: The Xenophobes Of South Africa by osystein(m): 12:25pm On Apr 13, 2015
The government should declare a state of emergency whenever these xenophobic incidence flare up and bring on the army. Seems SA leaders are in denial about the xenophobia in that country.

They should also setup refugee camps like Kenya for all the millions of Zim and Somali refugees.

That Zulu king should be sent to the ICC to face crimes against humanity.
Re: The Xenophobes Of South Africa by morpheus24: 3:10pm On Apr 13, 2015
osystein:
The government should declare a state of emergency whenever these xenophobic incidence flare up and bring on the army. Seems SA leaders are in denial about the xenophobia in that country.
They should also setup refugee camps like Kenya for all the millions of Zim and Somali refugees.
That Zulu king should be sent to the ICC to face crimes against humanity.

They are in denial and don't want to loose those millions of "white" foreigners who are bringing money into their economy so they camouflage Xenophobia as just criminal activity.
Re: The Xenophobes Of South Africa by osystein(m): 3:21pm On Apr 13, 2015
morpheus24:


They are in denial and don't want to loose those millions of "white" foreigners who are bringing money into their economy so they camouflage Xenophobia as just criminal activity.

I saw chinese and pakistani shops being looted on a youtube video, why do the leaders concede the afrophobia, are they afraid of the chinese investors.

SA needs refugee camps - Mantashe

However, Mantashe does not call it xenophobia, but afrophobia.

"It's afrophobia and if you look into the content you will see that it's afrophobia, because when African refugees walk in here they walk in here and go to townships predominantly and there's a scramble for resources there and the tension takes the form of afrophobia," he told News24.

"I think it was a good gesture for us to say people must live naturally, but ultimately we must have refugee camps so that we can document people."

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/SA-needs-refugee-camps-Mantashe-20150412
Re: The Xenophobes Of South Africa by morpheus24: 4:42pm On Apr 13, 2015
However, Mantashe does not call it xenophobia, but afrophobia.

"It's afrophobia and if you look into the content you will see that it's afrophobia, because when African refugees walk in here they walk in here and go to townships predominantly and there's a scramble for resources there and the tension takes the form of afrophobia," he told News24.

"I think it was a good gesture for us to say people must live naturally, but ultimately we must have refugee camps so that we can document people."


Mantashe is an illiterate and to coin these actions as Afrophobia is even more s.Tupid, if you ask me

How does he define this Afrophobia?. If it is fear of "Africans" or anything black, then what he is pretty much saying is South Africans are in fear of themselves because they are inclusive in the definition "Afro".

It is and has always been the fear and hatred of "black" foreign nationals because the locals cannot figure out how these individuals can turn nothing into something within the shores of South Africa and the jealousy is justified as "xenophobia".

Minus the 2- 3million Zimbabweans who are pretty much their neighbours how can 49 million strong black people be afraid of at the most another 1 million immigrants.
Re: The Xenophobes Of South Africa by Horus(m): 4:57pm On Apr 13, 2015
There are South Africans going around beating up "foreign" Blacks, burning down their businesses and killing some, yet, are doing nothing about the racist Whites that still live in their country, still discriminate against them in their own nation, still are plotting against them and their demise, that belong to Neo-Nazi and other race-hate groups, have been known to hunt down and kill a Black person, even a Black child, like they are hunting animals.
Re: The Xenophobes Of South Africa by osystein(m): 5:29pm On Apr 13, 2015
morpheus24:
However, Mantashe does not call it xenophobia, but afrophobia.

"It's afrophobia and if you look into the content you will see that it's afrophobia, because when African refugees walk in here they walk in here and go to townships predominantly and there's a scramble for resources there and the tension takes the form of afrophobia," he told News24.

"I think it was a good gesture for us to say people must live naturally, but ultimately we must have refugee camps so that we can document people."


Mantashe is an illiterate and to coin these actions as Afrophobia is even more s.Tupid, if you ask me

How does he define this Afrophobia?. If it is fear of "Africans" or anything black, then what he is pretty much saying is South Africans are in fear of themselves because they are inclusive in the definition "Afro".

It is and has always been the fear and hatred of "black" foreign nationals because the locals cannot figure out how these individuals can turn nothing into something within the shores of South Africa and the jealousy is justified as "xenophobia".

Minus the 2- 3million Zimbabweans who are pretty much their neighbours how can 49 million strong black people be afraid of at the most another 1 million immigrants.

As you say, the hatred is caused by jealousy, If the foreigners were simply beggars and set on corners all day waiting for handouts, we probably won't see all this xenophobia (maybe not). I don't think they'll attack the Methodist Church where those Zimbaweans take refuge, why always the shops?
Re: The Xenophobes Of South Africa by paniki(m): 6:03pm On Apr 13, 2015
We are xenophobes. So what?

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Re: The Xenophobes Of South Africa by morpheus24: 6:42pm On Apr 13, 2015
paniki:
We are xenophobes. So what?

We are 419ers, so What?

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Re: The Xenophobes Of South Africa by morpheus24: 6:44pm On Apr 13, 2015
osystein:

As you say, the hatred is caused by jealousy, If the foreigners were simply beggars and set on corners all day waiting for handouts, we probably won't see all this xenophobia (maybe not). I don't think they'll attack the Methodist Church where those Zimbaweans take refuge, why always the shops?

Just more evidence that it has nothing to do with draining resources that are due the citizens but trying to put people who are more competitive than you out of business through violent means, its the South African way.
Re: The Xenophobes Of South Africa by MduZA: 6:50pm On Apr 13, 2015
Horus:
There are South Africans going around beating up "foreign" Blacks, burning down their businesses and killing some, yet, are doing nothing about the racist Whites that still live in their country, still discriminate against them in their own nation, still are plotting against them and their demise, that belong to Neo-Nazi and other race-hate groups, have been known to hunt down and kill a Black person, even a Black child, like they are hunting animals.

forget about the racist whites,SA is their country too...what are you doing about your own black people who are discriminating against other black people,like your own people who are demanding that igbos should be chased out of lagos?

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Re: The Xenophobes Of South Africa by morpheus24: 7:00pm On Apr 13, 2015
MduZA:

forget about the racist whites,SA is their country too...what are you doing about your own black people who are discriminating against other black people,like your own people who are demanding that igbos should be chased out of lagos?

Stop deflecting and distracting, If you want to discuss Nigerian ethnic matters, there are a bunch of threads on those you can chime in on.

Why can't your people look for civilized solutions to your jealousy issues?

Does anyone force your locals to buy from foreign shops in the township, Why do you patronize them. Why can't you buy your own stuff and practice group economics?

Why do you go shopping at malls in Sandton and Capetown who's owners are foreign companies that make products at cheap and you buy them at exhorbitant prices. Why are you not tearing down those stores?

What are you doing about the foreign white nationals who are circumventing your immigration laws and living in South Africa, is it because you cannot reach them or afraid they will organize and come get you?



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Re: The Xenophobes Of South Africa by MduZA: 7:36pm On Apr 13, 2015
morpheus24:


Stop deflecting and distracting, If you want to discuss Nigerian ethnic matters, there are a bunch of threads on those you can chime in on.

Why can't your people look for civilized solutions to your jealousy issues?

Does anyone force your locals to buy from foreign shops in the township, Why do you patronize them. Why can't you buy your own stuff and practice group economics?

Why do you go shopping at malls in Sandton and Capetown who's owners are foreign companies that make products at cheap and you buy them at exhorbitant prices. Why are you not tearing down those stores?

What are you doing about the foreign white nationals who are circumventing your immigration laws and living in South Africa, is it because you cannot reach them or afraid they will organize and come get you?



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mate your anger is alarming,your very own people are chasing each other out of Lagos...you are here crying foul about isolated incidents in SA...if you were wise enough you would have been more concerned about what is happening in your own land....there are millions and millions of African immigrants in SA,they are not experiencing anything like xenophobic attacks because majority of south Africans are not xenophobic....you are painting a bad picture so that you and your fellow country men can do what you know best...throwing insults...

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Re: The Xenophobes Of South Africa by morpheus24: 7:46pm On Apr 13, 2015
MduZA:

mate your anger is alarming,your very own people are chasing each other out of Lagos...you are here crying foul about isolated incidents in SA...if you were wise enough you would have been more concerned about what is happening in your own land....there are millions and millions of African immigrants in SA,they are not experiencing anything like xenophobic attacks because majority of south Africans are not xenophobic....you are painting a bad picture so that you and your fellow country men can do what you know best...throwing insults...

Yes, deflecting again. This forum has opened up multiple threads that are currently discussing issues concerning comments made by an Oba of Lagos against Ibos and general ethnic issues in Nigeria. Where are your own forums on Xenophobia and general South African matters we can chime in on.

When your dirty laundry is aired for all the World to see you are now on the defensive and trying to deflect.

PS there are not millions and millions of African immigrants in South Africa, There are roughly 3 million Zimbabwean immigrants who are pretty much your neighbours so we know why their numbers are that high. The rest are a group of an additional 1 million African immigrants who are from the rest of Africa with SADC countries making up the bulk.

How can 4 million immigrants terrorize and invoke fear on 49 million strong Black South Africans


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Re: The Xenophobes Of South Africa by Nobody: 7:51pm On Apr 13, 2015
MduZA:


mate your anger is alarming,your very own people are chasing each other out of Lagos...you are here crying foul about isolated incidents in SA...if you were wise enough you would have been more concerned about what is happening in your own land....there are millions and millions of African immigrants in SA,they are not experiencing anything like xenophobic attacks because majority of south Africans are not xenophobic....you are painting a bad picture so that you and your fellow country men can do what you know best...throwing insults...
who have they chased? is this one mad? you can downplay your 'isolated' incidents in soweto, kzn amongst others on nairaland as you wish, but peddling false narratives while doing that is quite stupiid to say the least. Nigerians are not barbaric xenophobes like saffers, all tribal rhetorics ends on cyberspace with us. Now, go to BBC , AFP and vent your frustrations abeg!

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Re: The Xenophobes Of South Africa by samtol4(m): 8:33pm On Apr 13, 2015
Shame on SA government .Right now looting going on at Kwa mashu township Durban and two Ethiopians set on fire .Blaming foreigners for their Laziness .I have never seen set of people so Lazy like these people .They are lamenting that foreigners have taken: 1.Shops 2.Jobs 3.Women While the foreigners open barbing saloon and shops to do business ,they sat down and wait for government grants and now the grants are not going around again ,they started looting and robbing in daylight .Still surprise Chinese and Pakistan in my area are not disturbed or attacked but "blacks attacking blacks " The numbers of hungry black SA has treble over the years and many locals are homeless and frustrated ,rather acquire skills like barbing,tailoring,shoe making etc they are busy roaming aimlessly engaging in Crime and looting claiming foreigners have taken jobs,98percent foreigners in SA are on small scale business not on government payroll .These locals constitute "time bomb"for the government and entire SA as country .

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Re: The Xenophobes Of South Africa by osystein(m): 8:47pm On Apr 13, 2015
samtol4:
Shame on SA government .Right now looting going on at Kwa mashu township Durban and two Ethiopians set on fire .Blaming foreigners for their Laziness .I have never seen set of people so Lazy like these people .They are lamenting that foreigners have taken: 1.Shops 2.Jobs 3.Women While the foreigners open barbing saloon and shops to do business ,they sat down and wait for government grants and now the grants are not going around again ,they started looting and robbing in daylight .Still surprise Chinese and Pakistan in my area are not disturbed or attacked but "blacks attacking blacks " The numbers of hungry black SA has treble over the years and many locals are homeless and frustrated ,rather acquire skills like barbing,tailoring,shoe making etc they are busy roaming aimlessly engaging in Crime and looting claiming foreigners have taken jobs,98percent foreigners in SA are on small scale business not on government payroll .These locals constitute "time bomb"for the government and entire SA as country .


Do you reside in Durban? I saw Chinese and Pakistani shops being looted on YouTube, Where do you get that only blacks are targeted? Waren't the two Ethiopian's shop petrol bombed on Saturday?
Re: The Xenophobes Of South Africa by paniki(m): 9:23pm On Apr 13, 2015
morpheus24:


We are 419ers, so What?

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Re: The Xenophobes Of South Africa by morpheus24: 10:54pm On Apr 13, 2015
^^^^

I am about to puke from disgust
Re: The Xenophobes Of South Africa by morpheus24: 10:55pm On Apr 13, 2015
@ Horus

of course the video you just posted has been removed.

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