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Re: NNPC Aptitude Test On December 6, 2014 by Caucasian: 11:21pm On Apr 13, 2015
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Re: NNPC Aptitude Test On December 6, 2014 by uyosolo: 11:36pm On Apr 13, 2015
@caucasian,r u fightin against flesh nd blood or principalities nd power? U seriously nid help!!! Ur village ppl hv troubled u too much

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Re: NNPC Aptitude Test On December 6, 2014 by babacha: 11:59pm On Apr 13, 2015
uyosolo:
@caucasian,r u fightin against flesh nd blood or principalities nd power? U seriously nid help!!! Ur village ppl hv troubled u too much

Guy how far, how ur day na?
Re: NNPC Aptitude Test On December 6, 2014 by babacha: 12:03am On Apr 14, 2015
There is question that every one who put experience in his or her CV should expect.

Let all share some idea on it, that question is

Why do u want to leave ur current place of work to join NNPC?

Guys ur idea, no comment is wrong
Re: NNPC Aptitude Test On December 6, 2014 by sharks776(m): 12:47am On Apr 14, 2015
babacha:
There is question that every one who put experience in his or her CV should expect.

Let all share some idea on it, that question is

Why do u want to leave ur current place of work to join NNPC?

Guys ur idea, no comment is wrong

I choose to live my current job because I seek bigger challenges with reputable larger organizations.

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Re: NNPC Aptitude Test On December 6, 2014 by Gloom: 6:55am On Apr 14, 2015
babacha:


You do not use valves to stop and start flow, pumps are used to stop and start flow. When you use valves to stop flow in a stream, it creates back pressure on the line.

Check valves are designed to stop back flow in operation. Not all valves prevent back flow.

Yeah, control valves regulate flow

That is good but they do more than that. The do basically 3 things
1, To stop and start flow
2, To regulate flow
3, To stop back flow

Let some one bring question too na
Re: NNPC Aptitude Test On December 6, 2014 by Gloom: 7:02am On Apr 14, 2015
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babacha:
To throw more light.
1, under those that stop and start flow, u have valve like gate valve, butterfly valve, ball valve etc
2, Under those that regulate flow, u have the pressure relief valve and they are usually spring loaded, the spring is design with a certain pressure in view. When the pressure on the line exceed what the spring can hold, it pushes the spring and the valve open for some fluid to flow out of the line to regulate the pressure.
3 under those that stop back flow, u have the check valve


Pressure relief valve and pressure safety valve are both safety valves and not for flow regulation. One is used in liquid application and the other in gas application
Re: NNPC Aptitude Test On December 6, 2014 by scarletdp(m): 7:11am On Apr 14, 2015
sharks776:


I choose to live my current job because I seek bigger challenges with reputable larger organizations.

And they ask, So After we employ you, is this how you would seek bigger challenges in other reputable larger organizations? Then what will you say.
Re: NNPC Aptitude Test On December 6, 2014 by uyosolo: 7:14am On Apr 14, 2015
babacha:


Guy how far, how ur day na?
my day was fine o,nd urs? I no dey ph o,i dey close to towers
Re: NNPC Aptitude Test On December 6, 2014 by SomBaby(f): 8:33am On Apr 14, 2015
Good morning peeps...

Please any computer science graduate in the house?...Please let's share ideas...

Abi na only mech eng. guys waka come?
Re: NNPC Aptitude Test On December 6, 2014 by gbonsquare: 9:25am On Apr 14, 2015
babacha:


Look at this practical one also

Why is the discharge and suction of a centrifugal pump usually at 90 degree?

U no be english teacher, the questions are suppose to be for english teachere, but if him still need, enough are on the head to drop for him, I don't need to consult any tin to drop them
Pls I'm not an English teacher ooo and I'm not forming one.I just like that Ur question as it interest me as a Mechanical Engineer.I want to try providing an answer...
The Suction and discharge at 90degree should be because each turn of d valve is a quarter.so the opening and closing of the outlets is 90degree.
Re: NNPC Aptitude Test On December 6, 2014 by babacha: 9:46am On Apr 14, 2015
Gloom:
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Pressure relief valve and pressure safety valve are both safety valves and not for flow regulation. One is used in liquid application and the other in gas application

When u remove excess pressure along a line such that the flow remain constant, what are u regulating? And that is what pressure relief valve does, it regulate flow.

If I have product stored in a tank such that the product flow out by gravity and I close the valve along the line in which the product fow out, what have the valve done? It stop the flow and when I open the valve, it start the flow again. I don't need pump to stop and start flow under gravity, is valve that does that

For more information on valve, check shell SITP training material, u will see the 3 things I mention
Re: NNPC Aptitude Test On December 6, 2014 by gbonsquare: 9:50am On Apr 14, 2015
babacha:


Diesel engine are usually more stronger and more durable when compare to petrol engine. Diesel engine power stroke are usually more stronger and they can withstand heavy load
U tried but U need to put ur point in a more technical order.That is to say, diesed engine are nore rough and rugged that petrol engine also is their power stroke which required high temperature and pressure which if I can vividly remember can be provided by diesel due to d carbon content it entails when compared to petrol.
Re: NNPC Aptitude Test On December 6, 2014 by gbonsquare: 9:56am On Apr 14, 2015
prelinctus:
This thread is taking a boring dimension. undecided
I think its high time U ppl move out with ur distracting factors as the required is now ignited on the thread unless unlike d useless grammatical competition that was holding sway.
Re: NNPC Aptitude Test On December 6, 2014 by gbonsquare: 10:05am On Apr 14, 2015
babacha:


Guy u too much
babacha:


Guy u too much

Babacha but U said two stroke have two valves-d inlet and exhaust valve therefore have no induction and compression strokes but the other person said two stoke have two valves which fires for every turn made by d crankshaft(revolution) ...Pls Engr Babacha...explain further!
Re: NNPC Aptitude Test On December 6, 2014 by Gloom: 10:12am On Apr 14, 2015
babacha:


When u remove excess pressure along a line such that the flow remain constant, what are u regulating? And that is what pressure relief valve does, it regulate flow.

If I have product stored in a tank such that the product flow out by gravity and I close the valve along the line in which the product fow out, what have the valve done? It stop the flow and when I open the valve, it start the flow again. I don't need pump to stop and start flow under gravity, is valve that does that

For more information on valve, check shell SITP training material, u will see the 3 things I mention


In a process design, there is what we call operating pressure and maximum allowable working pressure. It is desirable for you to keep your operation within the designed operating pressure. However, pressure build up comes up at times due to improper lining of valves, problem with instrument air that operates SDV. Pressure relief valves are mounted along the spool to prevent the pressure from building up to the maximum allowable working pressure. MAWP is based on the pipe schedule.

In oil and gas operation, you don't usually rely on gravity to push flow. In tank application, you normally have a recycle pump to push the flow. For a wellhead, because the downhole formation pressure is high enough to create desired flow rate, a choke valve and some other valves are used.

You only rely on gravity to drive flow in domestic application.
Re: NNPC Aptitude Test On December 6, 2014 by babacha: 10:32am On Apr 14, 2015
[quote author=gbonsquare post=32704489]

Babacha but U said two stroke have two valves-d inlet and exhaust valve therefore have no induction and compression strokes but the other person said two stoke have two valves which fires for every turn made by d crankshaft(revolution) ...Pls Engr Babacha...explain further![/quot

3 things are needed for combustion, fuel, air and heat

In 4 stroke engine, the air and fuel are not mix b4 they enter the combustion chember, so u have one stroke for intak of air, another stroke to compress the air, the compressed air becomes hot, Those two stroke make one revolution. After compressing the air, u have one stroke for combustion and another stroke for exhaust, these two stroke again make another revolution and that is how u have the two revolution for 4 stroke engine

Now in 2 stroke engine, the air and the fuel are mix before entering the combustion chember, so u don't have intak of air and compression of air.
When the mixture of air and fuel enter the chember, the spark plug bring the heat that is needed for combustion. So u only have combustion and exhaust stroke and those 2 stroke make one revolution which is the one revolution for 2 stroke engin
Both 4 stroke and 2 stroke engine have 2 valves

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Re: NNPC Aptitude Test On December 6, 2014 by babacha: 10:46am On Apr 14, 2015
Gloom:



In a process design, there is what we call operating pressure and maximum allowable working pressure. It is desirable for you to keep your operation within the designed operating pressure. However, pressure build up comes up at times due to improper lining of valves, problem with instrument air that operates SDV. Pressure relief valves are mounted along the spool to prevent the pressure from building up to the maximum allowable working pressure. MAWP is based on the pipe schedule.

In oil and gas operation, you don't usually rely on gravity to push flow. In tank application, you normally have a recycle pump to push the flow. For a wellhead, because the downhole formation pressure is high enough to create desired flow rate, a choke valve and some other valves are used.

You only rely on gravity to drive flow in domestic application.

We are talking about the uses of valves and u said they don't stop and start flow and I explain to u how they stop and start flow, tanker discharge petroleum product at the filling station by gravity, is that domestic use? Visit tank farm and see more flow by gravity
Note also that temperature increase the pressure in pipeline, especially if the pipeline carry PMS

My guy oil and gas is wide, try understand what happen in the upstream, midstream and the downstream, don't limit ur explanation to only the upstream cos NNPC operate in all the streams
Re: NNPC Aptitude Test On December 6, 2014 by Gloom: 11:09am On Apr 14, 2015
babacha:


We are talking about the use of valve and u said they don't stop and start flow and I explain to u how they stop and start flow, tanker discharge petroleum product at the filling station by gravity, is that domestic use? Visit tank farm and see more flow by gravity
Note also that temperature increase the pressure in pipeline, especially if the pipeline carry PMS


My guy oil and gas is wide, try understand what happen in the upstream, midstream and the downstream, don't limit ur explanation to only the upstream cos NNPC operate in all the streams

Sorry, am not going to argue with you. We learn everyday. Even with my experience in the industry, I still open up to learning from our vendors. What you read in books are guides to real field realities. Am for EH but I still come to this thread to check on technical contribution I could benefit from.
Re: NNPC Aptitude Test On December 6, 2014 by babacha: 11:15am On Apr 14, 2015
Gloom:



In a process design, there is what we call operating pressure and maximum allowable working pressure. It is desirable for you to keep your operation within the designed operating pressure. However, pressure build up comes up at times due to improper lining of valves, problem with instrument air that operates SDV. Pressure relief valves are mounted along the spool to prevent the pressure from building up to the maximum allowable working pressure. MAWP is based on the pipe schedule.

In oil and gas operation, you don't usually rely on gravity to push flow. In tank application, you normally have a recycle pump to push the flow. For a wellhead, because the downhole formation pressure is high enough to create desired flow rate, a choke valve and some other valves are used.

You only rely on gravity to drive flow in domestic application.

So if a pressure relief valve are mounted to remove excess pressure that may build up due to any reason and keep the flow rate within a safe working operation, then the valve is not only acting as a safety valve but also as a flow regulator because absent of it will increase the pressure and when pressure increase, flow also increase
Re: NNPC Aptitude Test On December 6, 2014 by babacha: 11:29am On Apr 14, 2015
Gloom:


Sorry, am not going to argue with you. We learn everyday. Even with my experience in the industry, I still open up to learning from our vendors. What you read in books are guides to real field realities. Am for EH but I still come to this thread to check on technical contribution I could benefit from.

We all are learning, am still a boy in the oil and gas and I be boy for where u dey. If my experience in the oil and gas where to be above 5years, I would have apply for EH like u, we still need ur contribution here, we are only sharing idea and we learn from each other. But don't see us as those just talking from what we read in books, some of us are working in the oil and gas sector too but not up to ur years of experienc.
Re: NNPC Aptitude Test On December 6, 2014 by Gloom: 11:38am On Apr 14, 2015
babacha:


We all are learning, am still a boy in the oil and gas and I be boy for where u dey. If my experience in the oil and gas where to above 5years, I would have apply for EH like u, we still need ur contribution here,we are only sharing idea and we learn from each other. But don't see us as those just talking from what we read in book, some of us are working in the oil and gas sector too


I always feel happy when I share knowledge with people. We all are learning and will never stop learning until we quit. Our experience will amount to nothing if we can share it with one another. Cheers
Re: NNPC Aptitude Test On December 6, 2014 by Olumosey: 11:43am On Apr 14, 2015
@ gloom: U r vry correct. PSV n PRV do nt regulate flow, bt release excess pressure 4 safety of personnel n equipments.
Re: NNPC Aptitude Test On December 6, 2014 by babacha: 12:07pm On Apr 14, 2015
Olumosey:
@ gloom: U r vry correct. PSV n PRV do nt regulate flow, bt release excess pressure 4 safety of personnel n equipments.

Actually globe valve and angle valve are best use for regulating flow, but PRV keep the flow constant and in a way regulating.

We are all engineers, we all can research futher on it, we are all learning and am open to learn from any one here
Re: NNPC Aptitude Test On December 6, 2014 by Gloom: 12:13pm On Apr 14, 2015
babacha:


So if a pressure relief valve are mounted to remove excess pressure that may build up due to any reason and keep the flow rate within a safe working operation, then the valve is not only acting as a safety valve but also as a flow regulator because absent of it will increase the pressure and when pressure increase, flow also increase

Pressure could be a resistance to flow. High pressure does not always mean high flow rate.
Re: NNPC Aptitude Test On December 6, 2014 by babacha: 12:19pm On Apr 14, 2015
gbonsquare:
Pls I'm not an English teacher ooo and I'm not forming one.I just like that Ur question as it interest me as a Mechanical Engineer.I want to try providing an answer...
The Suction and discharge at 90degree should be because each turn of d valve is a quarter.so the opening and closing of the outlets is 90degree.

The answer is in ur simple harmonic motion, just go back and look at ur simple harmonic motion, especially the velocity of an object in a circular path, then u will understand it more clear why the suction and discharge of a centrifugal pump are usually 90degree but if u still don't understand, we can share it togther here
Re: NNPC Aptitude Test On December 6, 2014 by KINGTELLER: 12:21pm On Apr 14, 2015
Wow smiley smiley... I'm enjoying this thread now.. Unlike when we were checkmating typographical error.. undecided undecided

* Sitting on the fence and watching the lovely exchange of knowlegde*

#Observing#
Re: NNPC Aptitude Test On December 6, 2014 by KINGTELLER: 12:24pm On Apr 14, 2015
SomBaby:
Good morning peeps...

Please any computer science graduate in the house?...Please let's share ideas...

Abi na only mech eng. guys waka come?

I'm a computer Science & Statistics graduate and also Mechanical Engineering graduate

So what do you want to know in Compu Sci.
Re: NNPC Aptitude Test On December 6, 2014 by Olumosey: 12:45pm On Apr 14, 2015
Any clue on hw 2 interprete piping n instrumentatn diagrams(P&ID).
Re: NNPC Aptitude Test On December 6, 2014 by Gloom: 12:54pm On Apr 14, 2015
Olumosey:
Any clue on hw 2 interprete piping n instrumentatn diagrams(P&ID).

Know your P&ID symbols and their uses
Re: NNPC Aptitude Test On December 6, 2014 by lobito007(m): 1:13pm On Apr 14, 2015
[quote author=babacha post=32705435][/quote]
Good analysis. However you should note that in a 4-stroke engine, like in a 2-stroke in engine, it is the fuel-air mixture (not only the air) that enters the piston during the intake stroke and is compressed.
Re: NNPC Aptitude Test On December 6, 2014 by babacha: 1:39pm On Apr 14, 2015
lobito007:

Good analysis. However you should note that in a 4-stroke engine, like in a 2-stroke in engine, it is the fuel-air mixture (not only the air) that enters the piston during the intake stroke and is compressed.

Bros in 4 stroke engine, is not the mixture of air and fuel that enter combustion chember, 4 stroke engine
are diesel engine, u don't have any 2 stroke engine that is diesel.
4 stroke engine, air enter first, after the air has been compressed, then the nezzle spray in diesel in form of gas into the combustion chember. That is why u don't have nozzle in 2 stroke engine because the mixture of air and fuel enter the chember from the inlet valve.
But in 4 stroke engine, only air enter the chember from the inlet valve and fuel enter from the nozzle. So they don't mix before they enter
U compress air to make it hot, u don't compress fuel, fuel is liquid and air is gas

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