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Re: President Jonathan's Mistakes And How He Could Have Remained President by oluwafemi113(m): 4:56pm On Apr 14, 2015
So much on point




Well said

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Re: President Jonathan's Mistakes And How He Could Have Remained President by JimmyBoy1: 4:56pm On Apr 14, 2015
Good one.

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Re: President Jonathan's Mistakes And How He Could Have Remained President by IYANGBALI: 4:56pm On Apr 14, 2015
simplexvi:
northerners do get love for their dictonary....we igbos voted for him massively because of the love we had for him
....and the hatred you have for the hausas

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Re: President Jonathan's Mistakes And How He Could Have Remained President by endeedike(m): 4:58pm On Apr 14, 2015
Stupidity is not defined geographically, nor by most of the other divisions employed to categorize. It takes residence in the hearts and minds of those who allow it to do so. Check the mirror...

ziqqz:
What of his unfortunate marriage to PEJ
Re: President Jonathan's Mistakes And How He Could Have Remained President by synergycom19: 4:58pm On Apr 14, 2015
You are wrong it was GEJ men who politicize the Chibok glris issue and not the media

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Re: President Jonathan's Mistakes And How He Could Have Remained President by itsdumebi(m): 4:59pm On Apr 14, 2015
u have no understanding of politics honestly...
duwdu:
@OP itsdumebi;

I don't even know where to start. But I'll summarize thus: I'm sorry, but if your type of budding politicians and level of analysts are the types the PDP has been breeding, then be rest assured that the PDP as a political party is done for, for a long time to come. No offense.

Good luck!

P34c3
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Re: President Jonathan's Mistakes And How He Could Have Remained President by sofadj(m): 5:00pm On Apr 14, 2015
Here is mine : Mistakes of Jonathan

1. How to talk: Jonathan does not know how to talk (in public at least) He lacks knowledge of what to say and not say in public. Of his numerous blunders are
Jonathan said " Terrorism is everywhere, Nigerians are having their share!" and "Boko haram are our brothers "
Instead of " Terrorism may be thriving in other nations, we as Nigerians are not terrorists and we will not tolerate it, we would do everything possible to fish them out and prosecute them, we will make living impossible for any individual with the slightest terror intent. We will stop at nothing to make sure ... I mean just say something that will make people believe you're in charge and not "Shekau"
Then the famous "Stealing is not corruption"



2. Allowing the succesful merger of AC, ANPP, CPC : for every reasonable political analyst, Jonathan lost the election since the day these 3 parties fused. There was no way he was going to win especially with the newly formed APC fielding Buhari as their candidate. This singular reason was why most PDP member deserted Jonathan. They knew they wouldn't win with Jonathan as their candidate, they wanted him to forget 2nd term and field a Northern candidate but he was never going to agree. This was what caused division in the PdP govs forum amd led to the exit of many including Amaechi , Obasanjo, etc. Remember tne famous letter OBJ sent to Jonathan, his major concern was Jonathan's insistence on going for reelection. Permit me to say that I believe General Obasanjo wouldnt have allowed the succesful merger of AC, ANPP and CPC, he would have scuffled it one way or the other.

3. Political naivety : Perhaps because he never really vied for any major postion in his political career and has always been favoured by other's misfortunes, Jonathan does some things that marvels a politically sound mind. From his choice of party leaders to his timing of political moves. How can Jonathan justify his last minute crackdown on boko haram ? Was he trying to paint a picture of competence or what? In actual fact, that elections were successfully held in Boko haram haunted states even contributed to his loss. In simple terms he could have allowed the status quo.

4. His Wife. I don't want to say much on this but she's everything a citizen doesn't want in his First lady.

5. Okonjo, Diezanni, and that aviation minister (what's her name). He made these people seem like the almighty untouchable. He ought to have cautioned, challenged, removed either or all of them especially in the face of allegations bordering on corruption. This could have even made if seem like he was in charge or that he was detested corruption. Rather , Mr Jona shielded them, and made shrinked himself while so doing.

These readily came to mind. In sum, Jonathan is a poor leader, a poor administrator and a poor manager. He may be a good man as many people close to him are saying, infact he may not be as corrupt as many past leaders as many people believe, but as a leader, how the people you govern perceive you is more important than what you actually are especially in a democratic situation.

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Re: President Jonathan's Mistakes And How He Could Have Remained President by darejem4real: 5:01pm On Apr 14, 2015
Good write up

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Re: President Jonathan's Mistakes And How He Could Have Remained President by IYANGBALI: 5:02pm On Apr 14, 2015
driand:
His wife is another factor that kicked him out of office.
the woman foked the hell out of the man
Re: President Jonathan's Mistakes And How He Could Have Remained President by dvee2: 5:02pm On Apr 14, 2015
I think your analysis was fair enough. The Chibok Girls case goes hand in hand with the slaughter of 55 young boys sleeping in their hostel and the bomb blast that kill over a 100 compatriots in Nyanya Abuja. I mean who in the world would go dancing few hours after or not addressing these issues passionately? only a dunce.

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Re: President Jonathan's Mistakes And How He Could Have Remained President by mikron(m): 5:04pm On Apr 14, 2015
ziqqz:
What of his unfortunate marriage to PEJ
stupid talk, what has his marriage got to do with this?
Re: President Jonathan's Mistakes And How He Could Have Remained President by mmsen: 5:04pm On Apr 14, 2015
Gamesmart:


The question is "Is Jonathan a good man or not".

Not "Is a Jonathan a good man when compared to Buhari, Escobar or Willy Wonka".

Buhari has committed his fair share of atrocities.

Who knows what Lagos would be like now if it had the metro system that Jakande had planned. Buhari put an end to that by paying the 78 million dollar penalty fee instead of allowing the project to go ahead for 120 million dollars and complete the project.

Buhari is the clown who interfered when the Jonathan administration sought to attack Boko Haram by claiming that to do so would be an 'attack on the North'.

Buhari is the man who has done nothing but campaign for Sharia law for the north, as if that was/is the biggest concern. Why did he not campaign against child-brides? Almajiris? Poor educational attainment by northern children? Poor healthcare? Fistula? Polio? He could have campaigned against any number of problems that northern Nigeria faces, real issues that have made life for people there unbearably difficult, instead he chose to hide behind religion.

Jonathan has put in place schools for northern almajiri students. Why is the Federal government having to do the job of the state officials? What have they been doing for the past 50 years that they still do not have sufficient schools for their abundant children? How are they supposed to become eligible for decent employment if they are not given the opportunity to get the qualifications necessary? Why did Buhari not campaign about this issue?

That is why I can comfortably say that Jonathan is a good man compared to Buhari. He is far from perfect but the silence on genuine matters and the ignorance that Buhari and his ilk have displayed are the core reasons why Boko Haram has become such a menace and why one half of the nation is so far behind when it comes to human development indices.

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Re: President Jonathan's Mistakes And How He Could Have Remained President by mbolajide2010: 5:05pm On Apr 14, 2015
mbolajide2010:

Bro, let's be sincere with ourselves GEJ does not understand politic at all. He was defeated with three key factors :
1 He divided the country along religious and ethnic line, he might not be the one directly but people around him did. Imagine Sambo saying
"don't vote buhari becasue his vice (Osinbajo) has 5000 churches". Only deluded people couldn't see that GEJ would lose the election.I was so confident that GEJ would lose the election, because i'm sure that even if PDP wanna rig they can't rig in the north cause of the division already created by his administration. GEJ strong hold (SS & SE) has 12 millions votes and that of Buhari(NW & NE) has 23 millions votes. Now, even in the north central the population of muslims is almost the same as that of christians same as South West. Though from the results NC and SW didn't vote along religious and ethnic line.
2 Corruption at the highest level in the history of Nigeria. If you tell me that GEJ didn't steal any money i will believe you, but people around him did and he didn't give a Bleep. So his administration is the most corrupt in the history of Nigeria. Imagine IBB saying "compare to GEJ administration i think my administration is a saint".
3 Neglecting the south west as somebody rightly said. Buhari was initially seen as a bad market nationally that was why he could only win in NW & NE. But, the south westener repackaged him and made him nationally accepted only the SS & SE didn't accept him.
thefakestan:
Taking notes , i must admit some valid points were made esp. The "mafian" style approach to the media, but one thing is for sure if he was from the North even with all this he would have gotten enough block votes but unfortunately he's a minority and needed to play ball, upon all what he did for the North, they never saw him as their own and never appreciated him, something he should have reliased and ignored them rather than pampering them and while they were working against him.

Bro, let's be sincere with ourselves GEJ does not understand politic at all. He was defeated with three key factors :

1 He divided the country along religious and ethnic line, he might not be the one directly but people around him did. Imagine Sambo saying
"don't vote buhari becasue his vice (Osinbajo) has 5000 churches". Only deluded people couldn't see that GEJ would lose the election.I was so confident that GEJ would lose the election, because i'm sure that even if PDP wanna rig they can't rig in the north cause of the division already created by his administration. GEJ strong hold (SS & SE) has 12 millions votes and that of Buhari(NW & NE) has 23 millions votes. Now, even in the north central the population of muslims is almost the same as that of christians same as South West. Though from the results NC and SW didn't vote along religious and ethnic line.

2 Corruption at the highest level in the history of Nigeria. If you tell me that GEJ didn't steal any money i will believe you, but people around him did and he didn't give a Bleep. So his administration is the most corrupt in the history of Nigeria. Imagine IBB saying "compare to GEJ administration i think my administration is a saint".

3 Neglecting the south west as somebody rightly said. Buhari was initially seen as a bad market nationally that was why he could only win in NW & NE. But, the south westener repackaged him and made him nationally accepted only the SS & SE didn't accept him.

So, bro forget the issue that he is from the minority GEJ didn't play his game well, ask yourself was he from the majority when he won in 2011 ?

God bless you!!!
God bless Nigeria

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Re: President Jonathan's Mistakes And How He Could Have Remained President by mightycrown1(m): 5:06pm On Apr 14, 2015
[size=18pt] LESSON WELL LEARNED
DONT MARGINALIZE ANY REGION
BEWARE OF GODFATHERS
BE STRONG
ZERO TOLERANCE TO CORRUPTION
ETC [/size]

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Re: President Jonathan's Mistakes And How He Could Have Remained President by hardbody: 5:07pm On Apr 14, 2015
boujaye:
All what the OP is saying are trash. GEJ has actually put up his best as a president.
He has nothing to loose, after climbing every scale of govt for 16 years.
He is such a nice man who took the sacrifice of uniting Nigeria rather than allowing it to disintegrate, by taking the bow. He has no regret!
You were one of those loud voices noising it that if GEJ must succeed he must not associate with godfathers in person of OBJ,
now you are speaking on the other side of the mouth.

However he plays the card, it is obvious that the Northern Powers and Western Powers wanted him out at all cost with the crave that
power must shift from this minority SS. I agreed that Jona like any other leader made mistakes, but not strong enough to remove him
by such an obvious regional conspiracy to a man who has threaten to make Nigeria ungovernable in 2011 if he loses election, and actually made good his threat. Well as time goes on everything will play out itself.

I still remain submissive to my Presdo, Dr. Goodluck Ebele Jonathan until there is enough evidence that the new leader is a truly changed person.

I align myself with your position. I have no love for either the former or the present president but if buhari had said he was going to make Nigeria ungovernable and he lived up to his threat thus unsettling the incumbent for as many years as he was in power i think we should all wait for that lady called nemesis. America hyped security and BH now they are claiming Buhari may not be able to clean the system up. My joy is Goodluck disappointed them all by not creating a theatre of blood as they predicted so that tbey will come and sell their war armaments and steal what is left of our oil. History will later judge Goodluck favourably.

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Re: President Jonathan's Mistakes And How He Could Have Remained President by NgwaManNaija4LF(m): 5:08pm On Apr 14, 2015
unclejb2:
U are among the minority igbo that voted or supported Great Grand Pa Certificateless Almajiri Buhari.

My bro,I'm a full blooded Nigerian first and an Igbo man by tribe,voting him out was the best thing to save our dear land from Ogogoro master,we Nigerians in another man's land feel the pain most when our country leaders refused to get their act together.

Proudly Nigerian,Proudly Igbo man.

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Re: President Jonathan's Mistakes And How He Could Have Remained President by hensben(m): 5:10pm On Apr 14, 2015
I repeat GEJ is not a good man he is a calm man ( an inteovert), we are mistaking calmness to be goodness, the formal are always dangerous remember.
Re: President Jonathan's Mistakes And How He Could Have Remained President by mikron(m): 5:12pm On Apr 14, 2015
chuna1985:
Instead of using a long article that u used (which is even out of place) , lemme tell u why gej lost the election ...

According to the state of Nigeria's democracy today, who u are and d works u did does not matter, what matters is ur tribe, religion n to some extent personal interests.

Since 1999, northerners vote enmass for northerners(Muslims) n southerners vote for their christian brothers.

GEJ lost because he the SW voted for the northern candidate.

If SW voted GEJ, he would have still won.

Its very simple.

FORGET ALL THE LONG TALK.
i couldn't have said it any better. Don't mind them.

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Re: President Jonathan's Mistakes And How He Could Have Remained President by thefakestan: 5:14pm On Apr 14, 2015
deucelaw:


North or no North, Politics is Politics, Obasanjo in 1999 got block of his votes from the North and it wasnt his territory, even South west did not vote for him. Jonathan still managed to get considerable votes from the North in 2011, why?... PDP was united and formidable even in the North.

Two important things Jonathan failed to do. 1) His government could not perform reasonably well and 2) He could not still keep his Party structure intact. Imagine If he had Kano and just 2 other Nothern state under his firm grip...

Ofcourse you cant under play the role of Tribal or Regional sentiments as it also reflected in the SS and SE voting patterns for President Jonathan, but even if you cant perform, atleast play your politics well and your numbers would add up.

I hate to talk about performance because he out classed OBJ but he didnt play his politics well, but you'll admit that the North and OBJ have been sweet, even when his people rejected him, but GEJ didnt get up to 17% in Kano in 2011, when he was up against ANPP and CPC, even ANPP did better, its a shame that our voting pattern is mainly based on religious and tribal reasons. Imagine the North had No 2,No 3 and No4 positions under GEJ! Even in Buhari's government it would be hard to achieve this.
Re: President Jonathan's Mistakes And How He Could Have Remained President by IYANGBALI: 5:14pm On Apr 14, 2015
Abeg when is Man United playing tonight?
Re: President Jonathan's Mistakes And How He Could Have Remained President by aresa: 5:16pm On Apr 14, 2015
itsdumebi:


His Nature

Any good, prudent leader knows that in order to thrive and grow in politics, he ought to know how to be Soft and Hard, Jonathan is a good man…an overly good man and in politics ‘soft/good men’ don’t go very far. He found himself in several situations where he was supposed to take the best possible action which might have been seen as morally ‘bad’.
You see, in politics and governance as a whole, you are required to be objective….certain circumstances require that you do that which might be viewed as morally ‘bad’, but in order for your government to stand, for your people to survive and for your position to remain, you must take these actions. There are situations whereby you do that which is viewed as morally ‘good’ and you will come to absolute ruin.



You said the man is a good man, but at the same time suggested he should have bribe and compromised Nigerians to stay in power. You yourself sound very mentally crooked and corrupt, this is what Nigerians rose up against and rejected by voting out this crooked and corrupt man you labelled a good man. There's nothing good about this crooked, corrupt, mean and incompetent man and I'll state just why.


Good men doesn't exonerate and make excuses on behalf of terrorists while the blood of innocent Nigerians was still wet on the ground after the independence day bombing, only bad and mean people do that.


Good men won't go dancing in Kano after scores of Nigerians and the people he swore to protect died in a bomb blast. The man even refused to protect the very area and the same terrorists bombed the same location 2 weeks later killing more Nigerians. Only mean callous and incompetent men do such..

Good men don't walk around for 2 weeks without saying or acknowledging the fact that hundreds of school children in his care were kidnapped by terrorists and even looked the other way while his own wife ridiculed and insulted the victims and their parents on National TV. Only bad and mean spirited men do such.

Good men protects his own people and demand accountability on their behalf and not look the other way or refuse to anything after his agency scammed and killed young unemployed jobs applicants.

Good men look the other way while the people he hires steal and loot his country dry while he himself protect and defend them vigorously by even insulting Nigerians that stealing is not corruption.

Good men don't divide his own people along ethno/Religious lines just to win elections.

It's very easy to go on and on, but I'm sure you got the gist. He's a bad man and sad burden on Nigerians and I'm glad we pushed him to the curb....

Please go back to the drawing board with your write up...

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Re: President Jonathan's Mistakes And How He Could Have Remained President by mikron(m): 5:19pm On Apr 14, 2015
Keneking:
I reserve my comment...might be banned for life

No power, no fuel, no good roads, no security, high corruption. Mention one that is not correct.
all these things u mentioned were prevalent if not more in obasanjo's government so where ur point is coming from is what I don't understand.

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Re: President Jonathan's Mistakes And How He Could Have Remained President by Nobody: 5:20pm On Apr 14, 2015
kokoye:


Reason why a lot of people can never be smart: put good ideas in a book.
GEJ brother go and put him back
Re: President Jonathan's Mistakes And How He Could Have Remained President by room089: 5:21pm On Apr 14, 2015
Nice write up Bro

With the mien of a humble man and his "shoeless" story, if he had declared his assets at a particular juncture, he would have garnered more love from the masses.

That his "I don't give a damn" response to journalists drew more hate to him than love.

He over empowered former militants like Asari and co to the extent that they assumed a superior air of importance and started talking any how as if they own Nigeria.
Re: President Jonathan's Mistakes And How He Could Have Remained President by spako4(m): 5:22pm On Apr 14, 2015
He nearly divided Nigeria due to his desperation for power.
He never convicted a single corrupt government official instead he pardoned the convicted ones
He allowed stealing of government funds by politicians(by believing that stealing is not corruption)
He could not control his ministers.
The money he wasted six weeks to the presidential elections could have help a lot in reforming power sector.
What a prodigal son!
He could not control his wife(He that control his home is not worthy to lead)
Re: President Jonathan's Mistakes And How He Could Have Remained President by hensben(m): 5:22pm On Apr 14, 2015
joewilly:
He did his best and he is well appreciated. How many people today will aceept defeat even the opposition. A stern president could have wasted human life to remain in power. we love u weak Jona
Because the people against him are just too much compare to people for him, remember he is from minority..an Hausa or Yoruba man can decide not to concede defeat nothing will happen. This I state here was GEJ fear, don't forget he is a weakling.
Re: President Jonathan's Mistakes And How He Could Have Remained President by Gamesmart: 5:22pm On Apr 14, 2015
mmsen:


Buhari has committed his fair share of atrocities.

Who knows what Lagos would be like now if it had the metro system that Jakande had planned. Buhari put an end to that by paying the 78 million dollar penalty fee instead of allowing the project to go ahead for 120 million dollars and complete the project.

Buhari is the clown who interfered when the Jonathan administration sought to attack Boko Haram by claiming that to do so would be an 'attack on the North'.

Buhari is the man who has done nothing but campaign for Sharia law for the north, as if that was/is the biggest concern. Why did he not campaign against child-brides? Almajiris? Poor educational attainment by northern children? Poor healthcare? Fistula? Polio? He could have campaigned against any number of problems that northern Nigeria faces, real issues that have made life for people there unbearably difficult, instead he chose to hide behind religion.

Jonathan has put in place schools for northern almajiri students. Why is the Federal government having to do the job of the state officials? What have they been doing for the past 50 years that they still do not have sufficient schools for their abundant children? How are they supposed to become eligible for decent employment if they are not given the opportunity to get the qualifications necessary? Why did Buhari not campaign about this issue?

That is why I can comfortably say that Jonathan is a good man compared to Buhari. He is far from perfect but the silence on genuine matters and the ignorance that Buhari and his ilk have displayed are the core reasons why Boko Haram has become such a menace and why one half of the nation is so far behind when it comes to human development indices.

How does how bad Hitler or Rasputin was got to do with "is Jonathan a good man or not"?

The fact that you need to find some "negative" to compare him with before he looks good is enough to say you know he is not a good man.

"Is Ajegunle a good place to live?"

"Well, it is better than Makoko because it is not flooded, so it is a very good place to live even though it is not perfect."


Can you see how senseless that sounds?

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Re: President Jonathan's Mistakes And How He Could Have Remained President by mikron(m): 5:24pm On Apr 14, 2015
Gamesmart:


How come you did not include the fact that he is corrupt and rewards corruption?
was obasanjo a saint? Who signed out $16,000,000,000 out for power projects without building any? In ur own definition of governance that one is not corruption abi? I get angry when people like u do handpicked criticism

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Re: President Jonathan's Mistakes And How He Could Have Remained President by Nobody: 5:25pm On Apr 14, 2015
Jonathan was never a politician I must say..his antecedents portrays that..he was never ambitious to be a leader so he never could understand what true leadership entails..becoming the president of Nigeria was never in Jonathans plan..Goodluck should have been left alone as a lecturer..He is naturally a good and soft man..such qualities are not qualities needed to rule a country like Nigeria..

The Guy messed up big time..

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Re: President Jonathan's Mistakes And How He Could Have Remained President by mmsen: 5:25pm On Apr 14, 2015
Gamesmart:


How does how bad Hitler or Rasputin was got to do with "is Jonathan a good man or not"?

The fact that you need to find some "negative" to compare him with before he looks good is enough to say you know he is not a good man.

"Is Ajegunle a good place to live?"

"Well, it is better than Makoko because it is not flooded, so it is a very good place to live even though it is not perfect."


Can you see how senseless that sounds?

There is nothing perfect under the sun as such everything becomes a question of relativity and what is best.

In the case of Buhari vs Jonathan only a fool would argue that Buhari is a wise choice.

'Good' is a useless term in this instance. 'Better' is more appropriate.

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Re: President Jonathan's Mistakes And How He Could Have Remained President by IYANGBALI: 5:26pm On Apr 14, 2015
boujaye:
I still remain submissive to my Presdo, Dr. Goodluck Ebele Jonathan until there is enough evidence that the new leader is a truly changed person.
who cares?good riddance to bad rubbish. Say me well to him tongue
Re: President Jonathan's Mistakes And How He Could Have Remained President by jamace(m): 5:26pm On Apr 14, 2015
The annoying part is that those who give interesting lectures on leadership can barely lead in their homes.
Nigeria is full of theoretical leaders! Really sad. sad sad

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