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Is This The Question That Created Atheism? by Esdb3: 11:09pm On Apr 14, 2015
I will be short please don't take it as being curt.

Personally I think the question that created atheists is. "Who created God".

If yes let an atheist quote me, I should be able to answer the question.
Re: Is This The Question That Created Atheism? by johnydon22(m): 11:21pm On Apr 14, 2015
Nope thats not it... you are way very so so very wrong grin

here is the question, just two nice simple words smiley

[size=20]Prove it [/size]

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Re: Is This The Question That Created Atheism? by valmunich(m): 11:56pm On Apr 14, 2015
johnydon22:
Nope thats not it... you are way very so so very wrong grin

here is the question, just two nice simple words smiley

[size=20]Prove it [/size]
Exactly. . . cool

Simply prove his existence!

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Re: Is This The Question That Created Atheism? by johnydon22(m): 11:58pm On Apr 14, 2015
valmunich:

Exactly. . . cool

Simply prove his existence!

Him, her, it whatever they say it is smiley But proving it seems impossible grin

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Re: Is This The Question That Created Atheism? by valmunich(m): 12:00am On Apr 15, 2015
johnydon22:


His, her, it whatever they say it is smiley But proving it seems impossible grin
LOL. . grin

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Re: Is This The Question That Created Atheism? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:14am On Apr 15, 2015
Its not about who created God , its about understanding who God is . He is self-existent. Understanding God's existence , is about seeing the fact He exists . Life didn't just happen like that . Our home , the Earth , didn't just come around like a cool guy and things started happening .He is the cause of our existence and if a supreme being like God is the cause then its very logical to conclude that He is self-existent . Meaning, He's existence is without a cause. If someone created God or if there's a cause of His existence then He is not the Almighty smiley , but there isn't so He is the Almighty God .

This is what atheists don't understand - He is self-existing

His creations are evidences, He exists . Life on earth or anywhere else is a proof He exists . If you think you evolved , as complex as you are , from a single cell that swarm in water . A single cell / single cells that brought about 10–14 million species of life currently on the Earth then am really sorry for you

valmunich

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Re: Is This The Question That Created Atheism? by valmunich(m): 1:21am On Apr 15, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
Its not about who created God , its about understanding who God is . He is self-existent. Understanding God's existence , is about seeing the fact He exists . Life didn't just happen like that . Our home , the Earth , didn't just come around like a cool guy and things started happening .He is the cause of our existence and if a supreme being like God is the cause then its very logical to conclude that He is self-existent . Meaning, He's existence is without a cause. If someone created God or if there's a cause of His existence then He is not the Almighty smiley , but there isn't so He is the Almighty God .

This is what atheists don't understand - He is self-existing So there is nothing to prove


valmunich
He's self existent. . . really

Does that make sense to you?

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Re: Is This The Question That Created Atheism? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:27am On Apr 15, 2015
valmunich:

He's self existent. . . really

Does that make sense to you?

Does a single cell , dividing and evolving into super-complex life forms make any sense to you?

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Re: Is This The Question That Created Atheism? by valmunich(m): 1:39am On Apr 15, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


Does a single cell , dividing and evolving into super-complex life forms make any sense to you?
Never stated I believe in the above undecided
It doesn't make sense to me too. . .

I believe in the Big Bang. . grin

Seriously, I believe all these are just mere assumptions. . .

None of em has been proven with strong back up points ,,, the biblical account not excluded tho' undecided

Well, to each his own. . .

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Re: Is This The Question That Created Atheism? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:50am On Apr 15, 2015
valmunich:

Never stated I believe in the above undecided
It doesn't make sense to me too. . .

I believe in the Big Bang. . grin

Seriously, I believe all these are just mere assumptions. . .

None of em has been proven with strong back up points ,,, the biblical account not excluded tho' undecided

Well, to each his own. . .


lolz... funny guy grin grin grin ... Thank God someone saw that that shyt doesn't make any sense. So why do you "believe" in the Big Bang
Re: Is This The Question That Created Atheism? by valmunich(m): 1:54am On Apr 15, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


lolz... funny guy grin grin grin ... Thank God someone saw that that shyt doesn't make any sense. So why do you "believe" in the Big Bang
Cos it beats my imagination how someone can just sit and come up with something that dumb?

Like it's one of the dumbest shiii I've read in a while. . .

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Re: Is This The Question That Created Atheism? by Jerryolumide(m): 1:56am On Apr 15, 2015
valmunich:

He's self existent. . . really

Does that make sense to you?
Please tell me you ain't an atheist
Re: Is This The Question That Created Atheism? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:58am On Apr 15, 2015
valmunich:

Cos it beats my imagination how someone can just sit and come up with something that dumb?

Like it's one of the dumbest shiii I've read in a while. . .

You sound like you're Agnostic
Re: Is This The Question That Created Atheism? by valmunich(m): 2:11am On Apr 15, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


You sound like you're Agnostic
Yapp. . . Kinda

Tired of all these faith related considerations cum constraints that comes with religion cos it doesn't make sense one bit. . .

They're dead to me, all these "gods". . .
Re: Is This The Question That Created Atheism? by valmunich(m): 2:13am On Apr 15, 2015
Jerryolumide:
Please tell me you ain't an atheist
I'm something near atheists. . . cool
Re: Is This The Question That Created Atheism? by Jerryolumide(m): 2:37am On Apr 15, 2015
valmunich:

I'm something near atheists. . . cool
You don't believe in God, but you believe in heaven and hell??
Re: Is This The Question That Created Atheism? by valmunich(m): 2:43am On Apr 15, 2015
Jerryolumide:
You don't believe in God, but you believe in heaven and hell??
Nahh. . . That shiii is just there to make sure you guys never try to escape that religious constraint cool

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Re: Is This The Question That Created Atheism? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 2:55am On Apr 15, 2015
valmunich:

Yapp. . . Kinda

Tired of all these faith related considerations cum constraints that comes with religion cos it doesn't make sense one bit. . .

They're dead to me, all these "gods". . .

Lol ... visit a good church where God's power is felt ... Like the Lord's Chosen - my church . Your doubts will be cleared once your problems get rolled away and your faith strengthened by other people's testimonies .

Thats how why I stay strong no matter because Ive experienced this awesome power very personally.

Your choice though , but choose wisely smiley
Re: Is This The Question That Created Atheism? by HighRoll: 2:59am On Apr 15, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


Lol ... visit a good church where God's power is felt ... Like the Lord's Chosen - my church . Your doubts will be cleared once your problems get rolled away and your faith strengthened by other people's testimonies .

Thats how why I stay strong no matter because Ive experienced this awesome power very personally.

Your choice though , but choose wisely smiley

To everyone their church is 'where God's power is felt'
Re: Is This The Question That Created Atheism? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:02am On Apr 15, 2015
HighRoll:


To everyone their church is 'where God'sower is felt'


I dont know why you quoted me sha but its a good thing now ... anyfn wrong with that?
Re: Is This The Question That Created Atheism? by HighRoll: 3:05am On Apr 15, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:



I dont know why you quoted me sha but its a good thing now ... anyfn wrong with that?

Just highlighting the self righteousness of modern Christianity.
Re: Is This The Question That Created Atheism? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:11am On Apr 15, 2015
HighRoll:


Just highlighting the self righteousness of modern Christianity.

There are many churches who have succumbed to the pleasures of the world .


So , its a thing of joy and pride if God shows his power in your own church . Its good to know God is with you smiley

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Re: Is This The Question That Created Atheism? by Orunto: 5:03am On Apr 15, 2015
The questioneer is selfish, unreasonable, arrogant and an illiterate.
Re: Is This The Question That Created Atheism? by johnydon22(m): 7:24am On Apr 15, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


Does a single cell , dividing and evolving into super-complex life forms make any sense to you?

You see what i tell you? You seem to be confused between atheism and science... Am not sure you know the difference between the two. smiley
Re: Is This The Question That Created Atheism? by Pr0ton: 7:37am On Apr 15, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


Does a single cell , dividing and evolving into super-complex life forms make any sense to you?

Wasn't that how you started in the womb?

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Re: Is This The Question That Created Atheism? by johnydon22(m): 7:39am On Apr 15, 2015
Pr0ton:


Wasn't that how you started in the womb?

Can you blame him? I can see he thinks science to be some sort of belief system. I dont blame the kid tho, he needs to start reading
Re: Is This The Question That Created Atheism? by Pr0ton: 7:47am On Apr 15, 2015
johnydon22:


Can you blame him? I can see he thinks science to be some sort of belief system. I dont blame the kid tho, he needs to start reading

Most of those theists are just bunch of ignorant confused beings. If they had taken the time to learn both religion and science they would see the implausibility of reconciling both.

Just as their book says, "my people perish for lack of knowledge" grin

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Re: Is This The Question That Created Atheism? by FOLYKAZE(m): 8:32am On Apr 15, 2015
johnydon22:
Nope thats not it... you are way very so so very wrong grin

here is the question, just two nice simple words smiley

[size=20]Prove it [/size]

You have a good response there.

Also the OP has a point but he chose to hold unto 'uncaused cause' feature of god.

If by this we are going to employ your PROVE IT question atheists ask, looking inwardly, you will have to agree to that God does exist but not as anthromorphical being as some religion depite it.

For example, Brahman is Hindi supreme God. It represent the cosmic singularity that caused the existence of the universe and everything there in. Whether it is caused is generally not know. But we admit through the big bang theory that existence springs from the cosmic singularity. This is served as God called Brahman in Hinduism, and also it is served as Eledumare in Yoruba spirituality.

In pantheism concept, God is nature that is totality of everything. We all know that nature exist, hence God does exist.

This brought us to God in spinozism. God here is natural law. We dont really need to disturb ourselves with proving existence of Natural laws.


Now this is proven. Do you disbelief in the existence of Brahman, Eledumare, Spinoza and pantheists god?
Re: Is This The Question That Created Atheism? by FOLYKAZE(m): 8:34am On Apr 15, 2015
johnydon22:


Can you blame him? I can see he thinks science to be some sort of belief system. I dont blame the kid tho, he needs to start reading

If you have read your book, you would have known that most scientific theories originate from spiritualist esp priests.

Does this make you throw science out because it originate from spirituality and religion?
Re: Is This The Question That Created Atheism? by johnydon22(m): 8:37am On Apr 15, 2015
FOLYKAZE:


You have a good response there.

Also the OP has a point but he chose to hold unto 'uncaused cause' feature of god.

If by this we are going to employ your PROVE IT question atheists ask, looking inwardly, you will have to agree to that God does exist but not as anthromorphical being as some religion depite it.

For example, Brahman is Hindi supreme God. It represent the cosmic singularity that caused the existence of the universe and everything there in. Whether it is caused is generally not know. But we admit through the big bang theory that existence springs from the cosmic singularity. This is served as God called Brahman in Hinduism, and also it is served as Eledumare in Yoruba spirituality.

In pantheism concept, God is nature that is totality of everything. We all know that nature exist, hence God does exist.

This brought us to God in spinozism. God here is natural law. We dont really need to disturb ourselves with proving existence of Natural laws.


Now this is proven. Do you disbelief in the existence of Brahman, Eledumare, Spinoza and pantheists god?

By likening cosmic singularity to brahman and eledumare, Do you still refer these gods as entities ?
Re: Is This The Question That Created Atheism? by FOLYKAZE(m): 8:38am On Apr 15, 2015
Pr0ton:


Most of those theists are just bunch of ignorant confused beings. If they had taken the time to learn both religion and science they would see the implausibility of reconciling both.

Just as their book says, "my people perish for lack of knowledge" grin

Lol

The Big bang theory in science and many religious concept have lots in common. Reason why Sam Harris, a renowed atheist sees buddhism as a stepping stone.

The wise one dont run from hard rocks. . . .from there comes gold.


Note, alchemy birth chemistry.

Want me to tell you more?
Re: Is This The Question That Created Atheism? by johnydon22(m): 8:40am On Apr 15, 2015
FOLYKAZE:


If you have read your book, you would have known that most scientific theories originate from spiritualist esp priests.

Does this make you throw science out because it originate from spirituality and religion?

one example?

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