johnydon22:


By likening cosmic singularity to brahman and eledumare, Do you still refer these gods as entities ?

Yes.

I remember ancient religion esp in egypt where kings and emperor are worshipped as God. These gods are enitities and does exist.

Now this is proven. Do you disbelief in the existence of Brahman, Eledumare, Spinoza and pantheists god?

johnydon22:


one example?

Alchemy and chemistry

FOLYKAZE:


Yes.

I remember ancient religion esp in egypt where kings and emperor are worshipped as God. These gods are enitities and does exist.

Now this is proven. Do you disbelief in the existence of Brahman, Eledumare, Spinoza and pantheists god?

..lol.. you see? a scientific cosmic singularity refers to A gravitational singularity or spacetime singularity; a location where the
quantities that are used to measure the gravitational field become infinite
in a way that does not depend on the coordinate system . These quantities
are the scalar invariant curvatures of spacetime, which includes a measure
of the density of matter.

their is no way this is an entity, so your brahma ish entities are mere assumptive speculations.. dont exist

A gravitational singularity or spacetime singularity are not entites..

FOLYKAZE:


Alchemy and chemistry

But is alchemy chemistry?

johnydon22:
But is alchemy chemistry?

Alchemy birth chemistry.

Just like astrolatry birth astronomy

FOLYKAZE:


Alchemy birth chemistry.

Just like astrolatry birth astronomy

But yet now fully distinguished from each other..

Alchemy differs from modern chemistry in its inclusion of Hermetic principles and practices related to mythology, magic ,
religion, and spirituality . . .

Now you see the difference

johnydon22:


..lol.. you see? a scientific cosmic singularity refers to A gravitational singularity or spacetime singularity; a location where the
quantities that are used to measure the gravitational field become infinite
in a way that does not depend on the coordinate system . These quantities
are the scalar invariant curvatures of spacetime, which includes a measure
of the density of matter.

their is no way this is an entity, so you brahma ish entities are mere assumptive speculations.. dont exist

The Isha Upanishad says:

Auṃ – That supreme Brahman is infinite, and this conditioned Brahmanis infinite. The infinite proceeds from infinite. If you subtract the infinite from the infinite, the infinite remains alone, still infinite.


Just liek cosmic singularity, Brahman swell, expand, grow, enlarge. The totality of this brought us to pantheism concept.

You cant run from ya shadow.


Brahman exist

FOLYKAZE:


The Isha Upanishad says:

Auṃ – That supreme Brahman is infinite, and this conditioned Brahmanis infinite. The infinite proceeds from infinite. If you subtract the infinite from the infinite, the infinite remains alone, still infinite.


Just liek cosmic singularity, Brahman swell, expand, grow, enlarge. The totality of this brought us to pantheism concept.

You cant run from ya shadow.


Brahman exist

..hahahahahahahahahahaha so brahman is a gravitational singularity or an entity which is it?

johnydon22:


But yet now fully distinguished from each other..

Alchemy differs from modern chemistry in its inclusion of Hermetic principles and practices related to mythology, magic ,
religion, and spirituality . . .

Now you see the difference

Magic is science.

Mythology is mere expression.

Religion is way of live

spirituality is observance of natural law.


This are component of science.

johnydon22:


..hahahahahahahahahahaha so brahman is a gravitational singularity or an entity which is it?

To it is gravitational. To hindis, it is god.

Astolatry worship stars as deities. This does stop star fro, being ball of gas.

FOLYKAZE:


Magic is science.

Mythology is mere expression.

Religion is way of live

spirituality is observance of natural law.


This are component of science.

let us consult the dictionary

magic : the power of apparently influencing events by using mysterious or
supernatural forces.

mythology : a collection of myths, especially one belonging to a particular religious
or cultural tradition.

religion: the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a
personal God or gods.

spirituality: Spirituality is the praxis and process of personal transformation , either in
accordance with traditional religious ideals, or, increasingly, oriented on
subjective experience and psychological growth independently of any
specific religious context. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirituality

FOLYKAZE:


To it is gravitational. To hindis, it is god.

Astolatry worship stars as deities. This does stop star fro, being ball of gas.

simple question, its not a matter of it being referred to as a god..
Some people call a stone a god so thats not the question..

Is gravitational singularity an entity or not?

johnydon22:


simple question, its not a matter of it being referred to as a god..
Some people call a stone a god so thats not the question..

Is gravitational singularity an entity or not?

Does that stop it from being a god?

You just shot yourself and expose atheism flaws.

You disbelieve in the existence of god. Yet again admit some people worship stone as god knowing fully well that stone exist. Thereofre god exist.

FOLYKAZE:


Does that stop it from being a god?

You just shot yourself and expose atheism flaws.

You disbelieve in the existence of god. Yet again admit some people worship stone as god knowing fully well that stone exist. Thereofre god exist.

hahahahahahaha nope stone exists i call it a stone, you call it your god. it doesnt stop it from being a stone. it is a stone nd not a conscious entity..

I just love ur defence...Some people call a stone a god therefore god exists i don die oo.. i call my girl friend a god therefore god exists

So once again is the gravitational singularity a conscious entity or not?

johnydon22:


let us consult the dictionary

Seriously I do not want to go hard with you. But I have to.

johnydon22:

magic : the power of apparently influencing events by using mysterious or
supernatural forces.

Magic is simply trickery science employed into art.

Chris angel do not have supernatural power. It tricks people with scientific knowledge and makes money from the art.

johnydon22:

mythology : a collection of myths, especially one belonging to a particular religious
or cultural tradition.

Hypotheis and conjection is what pls?

johnydon22:

religion: the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a
personal God or gods.

You need to serch for sociological definition of religion.

johnydon22:

spirituality: Spirituality is the praxis and process of personal transformation , either in
accordance with traditional religious ideals, or, increasingly, oriented on
subjective experience and psychological growth independently of any
specific religious context. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirituality

there is a definition of spirituality here https://www.nairaland.com/1459258/atheism-spirituality-two-coexist#18460787

check it out

johnydon22:


hahahahahahaha nope stone exists i call it a stone, you call it your god. it doesnt stop it from being a stone. it is a stone nd not a conscious entity..

I just love ur defence...Some people call a stone a god therefore god exists i don die oo.. i call my girl friend a god therefore god exists

So once again is the gravitational singularity a conscious entity or not?

Human is god. Conventional religion agrees to this.

It is not just by calling. It is concept of what god is.

Afterall, man is defined as god in dictionaries.

Atheism is about god and mean man does not exist.

Do you disbelieve in gaia? She is a goddess.

FOLYKAZE:


Seriously I do not want to go hard with you. But I have to.

Lol so this is ur idea of going hard? lmao.. try harder

FOLYKAZE:

Magic is simply trickery science employed into art.

Chris angel do not have supernatural power. It tricks people with scientific knowledge and makes money from the art.

magic is mere parlour trick, agreed. this we always maintained because we disbelief the existence of anything supernatural

FOLYKAZE:

Hypotheis and conjection is what pls?

You may do well to define them..

FOLYKAZE:

You need to serch for sociological definition of religion.

Why dont you show us

FOLYKAZE:

there is a definition of spirituality here https://www.nairaland.com/1459258/atheism-spirituality-two-coexist#18460787

check it out

I've seen it before

FOLYKAZE:


Human is god. Conventional religion agrees to this.

It is not just by calling. It is concept of what god is.

Afterall, man is defined as god in dictionaries.

Atheism is about god and mean man does not exist.

Do you disbelieve in gaia? She is a goddess.

Am sure we have treated this crap before in your thread and am not ready to repeat all and start going in circles again..

Gaia is a greek mythological personification of earth.. still the same thing we were talking about brahma.. Earth is a planet not an entity.

Is earth a conscious entity or just a planet?

is gravitational singularity a conscious entity? Choose..

FOLYKAZE:


Does that stop it from being a god?

You just shot yourself and expose atheism flaws.

You disbelieve in the existence of god. Yet again admit some people worship stone as god knowing fully well that stone exist. Thereofre god exist.

Lmao...is this a joke or something?

johnydon22:
Lol so this is ur idea of going hard? lmao.. try harder

Okis

johnydon22:
magic is mere parlour trick, agreed. this we always maintained because we disbelief the existence of anything supernatural

I repeat, magic is a trickery science and art. It has nothing to do with supernaturals.

Chris angel is a magician and does not have any attribute like supernatural.

johnydon22:
You may do well to define them..

Prof. Robert Bellah defines religion as a set of symbolic forms and acts that relate man to the ultimate conditions of his existence. This definition certainly extends the concept to cover non-theistic philosophies of life such as materialism, naturalism etc and including atheism.

Edmund Optiz said your religion is the fundamental way you approach, understand, and evaluate all subjects. It consists of your first principles, the truths you regard as self-evident, the basic axioms you take for granted, and through which you view everything else.

johnydon22:
Why dont you show us

Conjecture and hypotheis is likely myth.

johnydon22:
I've seen it before

That?

Have you seen definition of spirituality by fela?

To be spiritual is not by praying and going to church. Spiritualism is the understanding of the universe so that it can be a better place to live in.

Does this sound like science?

DProDG:

Lmao...is this a joke or something?

Anything you take it to mean

johnydon22:


Am sure we have treated this crap before in your thread and am not ready to repeat all and start going in circles again..

Gaia is a greek mythological personification of earth.. still the same thing we were talking about brahma.. Earth is a planet not an entity.

Is earth a conscious entity or just a planet?

is gravitational singularity a conscious entity? Choose..

Oga pls.

Earth is an entity. It exist on it own.


The question you evade is do you disbelieve in the existence of gaia? Yes or No?

FOLYKAZE:


Okis



I repeat, magic is a trickery science and art. It has nothing to do with supernaturals.

Chris angel is a magician and does not have any attribute like supernatural.

exactly we both agree on this cus supernatural is disbelelieve

FOLYKAZE:
them..Prof. Robert Bellah defines religion as a
set of symbolic forms and acts that relate man to the ultimate
conditions of his existence. This definition certainly extends the concept
to cover non-theistic philosophies of life such as materialism, naturalism
etc and including atheism.

Edmund Optiz said your religion is the fundamental way you approach,
understand, and evaluate all subjects. It consists of your first principles,
the truths you regard as self-evident, the basic axioms you take for
granted, and through which you view everything else.

You see, you base your definitions based on individual deductions, I think a reputable renown world encyclopedia is a better source not any individuals idea..

let me just drop a screenshot of wikipedia encyclopedia definition of religion.. as for fela spirituality, that yet is still his individual deduction, lets stick with the encyclopedia

valmunich:

Nahh. . . That shiii is just there to make sure you guys never try to escape that religious constraint

My question is, what do you believe in

FOLYKAZE:


Oga pls.

Earth is an entity. It exist on it own.


The question you evade is do you disbelieve in the existence of gaia? Yes or No?

Do you mean conscious entity or just an entity?

Gaia in the sense of greek mythology. (the personification of earth.. a goddess) these are the details about gaia..
Abode [/]:Earth
[b]Consort: Uranus, Pontus and Tartarus
Parents: None or Chaos ( Hesiod), or Aether and Hemera
( Hyginus)
Siblings :None or Eros , Erebus , Tartarus and Nyx (Hesiod)
Children: Uranus, Pontus , the Ourea, Hecatonchires , Cyclopes ,
Titans , The Gigantes , Nereus , Thaumus, Phorcys , Ceto ,
Eurybia, Aergia , and Typhon
Roman equivalent Terra……… Now we have seen what gaia is as defined by greek mythology.. So that goddess is mythology nothing more

Planet earth? Yes is so so in existence...

A goddess gaia who lives on earth, is the consort of uranus bla bla bla ? No doesnt exists.. as simple as that

let me add a picture of the goddess gaia too

johnydon22:


Do you mean conscious entity or just an entity?

Planet earth? Yes is so so in existence...

A goddess gaia who lives on earth, is the consort of uranus bla bla bla ? No doesnt exists.. as simple as that

let me add a picture of the goddess gaia too

You shifting from entity to conscious entity.

Well I hold the belief that the universe and including planet earth is very conscious. This is an extent to which you define what consciousness as.

Your description is balderdash.

Lady justice is a greek mythical greek goddess just like Gaia. They both share the same allegory personification or representation of a substance which in turn are been served as a deity. She is a beatiful lad.

Lady Justice took relation of Themis and Maat which are Hellenic and egyptian goddess respectively. Themis has a daughter called Dike who help in carrying scale around. She was adopted in rome as Iustitia carrying scales and a sword, and wearing a blindfold.

She wore a black apron on a silver blouse and swind her sword everywhere.

Will you say lady justice does not exist because she is mythical expression of justice?


This applies to Gaia too. They are both mythical goddesses but exist in reality.



http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Iustitia

http://www.commonlaw.com/Justice.html

FOLYKAZE:


You shifting from entity to conscious entity.

Well I hold the belief that the universe and including planet earth is very conscious. This is an extent to which you define what consciousness as.

here was my post

johnydon22:


Am sure we have treated this crap before in your thread and am not ready to repeat all and start going in circles again..

Gaia is a greek mythological personification of earth.. still the same thing we were talking about brahma.. Earth is a planet not an entity.

Is earth a conscious entity or just a planet?

is gravitational singularity a conscious entity? Choose..

and here was your reply

FOLYKAZE:


Oga pls.

Earth is an entity. It exist on it own.


The question you evade is do you disbelieve in the existence of gaia? Yes or No?

You see? its obvious who left out the part were i said conscious scroll up and see ..

FOLYKAZE:

Your description is balderdash.

My description is hewn from the wikipedia encyclopedia http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_(mythology)

FOLYKAZE:


Lady justice is a greek mythical greek goddess just like Gaia. They both share the same allegory personification or representation of a substance which in turn are been served as a deity. She is a beatiful lad.

Lady Justice took relation of Themis and Maat which are Hellenic and egyptian goddess respectively. Themis has a daughter called Dike who help in carrying scale around. She was adopted in rome as Iustitia carrying scales and a sword, and wearing a blindfold.

She wore a black apron on a silver blouse and swind her sword everywhere.

Will you say lady justice does not exist because she is mythical expression of justice?


This applies to Gaia too. They are [size=20] both mythical goddesses[/size] but exist in reality.



http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Iustitia

http://www.commonlaw.com/Justice.html

Am not sure you really know what myth means..

Now i have arrived, someone believing a myth even after agreeing its myth..Lol.. i wouldnt waste more time arguing with you is clear enough.

johnydon22:
exactly we both agree on this cus supernatural is disbelelieve

You are being selective. Cant you bear the hard punch any longer?

Everything in nature is super. So thanks.

johnydon22:
You see, you base your definitions based on individual deductions, I think a reputable renown world encyclopedia is a better source not any individuals idea..

let me just drop a screenshot of wikipedia encyclopedia definition of religion.. as for fela spirituality, that yet is still his individual deduction, lets stick with the encyclopedia

The definitions you post around do not cover many religion.

There are lot of non-theistic conception and also buddhism has nothing to do with supernaturals. How would you throw in a definition that does not cut across it tenet.

Like my little, he defines a lion as an animal that has four leg, a tail and a big head. But does that make goat a lion?


I found also in one dictionary, football is defined as a religion. Does this mean Oxford dictionary is not reliable here?

johnydon22:


here was my post



and here was your reply



You see? its obvious who left out the part were i said conscious scroll up and see ..


My description is hewn from the wikipedia encyclopedia http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_(mythology)
Am not sure you really know what myth means..

Now i have arrived, someone believing a myth even after agreeing its myth..Lol.. i wouldnt waste more time arguing with you is clear enough.

This is serious evasion.

I asked lot of questions but you tend to evade it without tactfully addressing the issue.

Myth is not necessarily false.

Esdb3:
I will be short please don't take it as being curt.

Personally I think the question that created atheists is. "Who created God".

If yes let an atheist quote me, I should be able to answer the question.

Atheists are very dull, they are wise to people like you. I've been chatting with many of them since ages, it is as if they fear God's existence. Just a simple yes/no yesterday, you would have pitied me as per how they were beating about the bush.

FOLYKAZE:


You are being selective. Cant you bear the hard punch any longer?

Everything in nature is super. So thanks.



The definitions you post around do not cover many religion.

There are lot of non-theistic conception and also buddhism has nothing to do with supernaturals. How would you throw in a definition that does not cut across it tenet.

Like my little, he defines a lion as an animal that has four leg, a tail and a big head. But does that make goat a lion?


I found also in one dictionary, football is defined as a religion. Does this mean Oxford dictionary is not reliable here?

You see once you mentioned you believed in glaring mythologies i decided to quite wasting my time with you..

But i want to correct another assertion … @bolded.. they recognize and believe the existence of demons.. eg Mara.

johnydon22:


You see once you mentioned you believed in glaring mythologies i decided to quite wasting my time with you..

But i want to correct another assertion … @bolded.. they recognize and believe the existence of demons.. eg Mara.

There is nothing you want to tell me about buddhism which I dont already know. Ya I know devas and lot of ritual practises in buddhism but there is no superntural attributes to them. It is as that simple.

Let me slide on myth.

http://faculty.gvsu.edu/websterm/mythfaqs.htm .according to this link, myth should not be thrown outside but should be studied so as to understand the coded msg encoded in it.

For example, In Yoruba creation myth, Ogun - Iron deity moulded man bone. But a look at science, we learnt that calcium builds bone. Calcium is a metallic chemical element. Therefore, you will see through that Ogun represent Calcium in the mythical aspect and the mythology is truth only when seeing through the other side of the metphor and symbols.

Myth hold truth metaphorically and symbolically. http://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythology .

Wisemen dont throw it out. But they dig out the truth embedded in it.

I know of the mythical account of Yemoja - water godessess. The story depite the history of water.

I believe in myths not as myth but the truth it holds.

So wise up.