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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:24pm On Apr 17, 2015
mzilakazi:



Not all overseas countries are as cold as that. However, SA changes over time to that state.

You are just another victim of the shiny school building + dull brain students South African educational system.

You want to compare American cold with South African cold?

I was talking about cold weather that kills people if they have no heater for their homes. Does South African cold kill people? How many homes in South Africa are PERMANENTLY constructed with winter heater fitted like in America?

Snow photos you poster there means nothing, there is snow in Tanzanian atop mount Kilimanjaro.

Snow can cover a city and it's just + 2 degrees Celsius.

Have you ever seen - 50 degrees Celsius in South Africa?

How many of your homes are covered by frozen long icicles every year?

Your failed Southie educational system did not teach you people people how to argue within context of a debate. No wonder Nigerian teachers are taking jobs away from your lazy dullards and your only response is Xenophobic attacks killing your fellow African black men on the streets.

ANC nation of animalistic babarians !
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 4:24pm On Apr 17, 2015
Henry120:


Provide proof.
The president of Angola is the richest man on the continent.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:25pm On Apr 17, 2015
MikeCZAR:
The president of Angola is the richest man on the continent.

Where is your proof?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 4:26pm On Apr 17, 2015
Henry120:


Where is your proof?
Outside of your reach maybe?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:27pm On Apr 17, 2015
agaugust:


America used mercenaries in Iraq war, yet nobody gave American military glory to white mercenaries, BBC and CNN never did that.....LOL.

If 5 men from a white PMC train 150 Nigerian troops in a small strike force, the western media will say the mercenaries won the war for Nigeria.....but how about the battalions of mercenaries fighting combat for American army in Iraq, those ones are not getting America's glory? LOL.

Anyway South African army in Angola was full of thousands of European and Angolan-Rhodesian-Mozambican mercenaries fighting 24 hours daily and shooting at the Cuban enemies in direct combat.....those ones don't take the glory from SADF, right? LOL.

Now....show us mercenaries flying Nigerian Alpha jets, F-7 jets, ATR-42 Surveyor battlefield surveillance aircraft, Mi-35 Hind E version, T-72 AV tanks, LG-3 Auto Grenade launcher, BTR-4E IFV.....show us mercenaries firing Bofors FH-77 Artilery....show us a white man that fired one single bullet in Boko Haram war....we have shown you thousands of Nigerians firing weapons....now you show us the mercenaries firing weapons inside the battlefield of Northern Nigeria....

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US Mercenaries in Iraq did not take up combat roles only defensive ones.

SADF foreign fighters were restricted to a battalion of 850 men and were led and trained by South Africans.

Pic related, white bloke flying one of your hinds in combat

I give your argument: 2/10.

Apply yourself in future.

Foreign fighters saved your country and liberated your people. Deal with it.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:28pm On Apr 17, 2015
agaugust:


Most of America s cold. Most of South Africa is hot.

When we are making general statement use your head and think like an adult.

Only a fool will compare American cold with South African cold, how many South African cities have heavy snow covered houses and roads for 5 months a year like in America.

Sleep is far inferior to death .... Fool gringrin
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Dude! Just shut up! someone who thinks air is more dens at higher altitude just because its colder shouldn't even be commentng on something remotely close to anything regarding weather and climate!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:28pm On Apr 17, 2015
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:29pm On Apr 17, 2015
agaugust:


ANC nation of animalistic babarians !
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Rich coming from a guy whos people eat one another "for medicine"

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 4:33pm On Apr 17, 2015
DM2A4 heavyweight torpedo.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:33pm On Apr 17, 2015
MikeCZAR:
In terms of aircraft technology Russia is still behind. The west introduced the B-2 spirit bomber, F-117 strike aircraft, F-22 and now the F-35 while the east grapples with its projects. The T-50 is still a promise.

Stealth coupled with tactics like NOE and EW systems can be a game changer, it isn't a giant leap though like jet engines.

Russia has always been trying to catch up, look at maritime systems. The Russians even tried getting western vessels. The fact that Russia isn't seen much action means they'll continue to follow western military trends.

Stealth is over-rated. A world war II Air defense system shot down the F-117 stealth bomber in Serbia (yugoslavia).

World war II Radars routinely pick up radar cross-sections of "stealth bombers".

Would our stealth bomber be doing NOE at 20,000 ft?

EW systems aren't stealth. For a comprehensive E.W, our "stealth fighters" would need to be escorted by Prowlers.

The Russians aren't behind in western governments in maritime systems. Russia ordered 2 Mistral warships from France, so?

They posses the capability to produce LPDs if they so desire.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:34pm On Apr 17, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Outside of your reach maybe?

So, you have no proof? Cool.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:36pm On Apr 17, 2015
Henry120:


Stealth is over-rated. A world war II Air defense system shot down the F-117 stealth bomber in Serbia (yugoslavia).

World war II Radars routinely pick up radar cross-sections of "stealth bombers".

Would our stealth bomber be doing NOE at 20,000 ft?

EW systems aren't stealth. For a comprehensive E.W, our "stealth fighters" would need to be escorted by Prowlers.

The Russians aren't behind in western governments in maritime systems. Russia ordered 2 Mistral warships from France, so?

They posses the capability to produce LPDs if they so desire.

1. the F-117 was not shot down by a WW2 Air Defence system in Serbia.
2. Citation needed.
2a. Detection =/= the ability to target what you have detected. (short-wave versus untra-long wave)
3. F-35 may be operating at any hight. It will be stealthyer at low level than high level
4. I dont think you have any idea of what systems-based warfare is
5. Thats an LHD, and is not a naval combat system like AEGIS or PAAMS. The fact that they ordered french ones and were unable to build their own says allot about how underdeveloped they are.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:43pm On Apr 17, 2015
Patchesagain:


US Mercenaries in Iraq did not take up combat roles only defensive ones.

SADF foreign fighters were restricted to a battalion of 850 men and were led and trained by South Africans.

Pic related, white bloke flying one of your hinds in combat

I give your argument: 2/10.

Apply yourself in future.

Foreign fighters saved your country and liberated your people. Deal with it.

Nope, they did. U.S mercenaries actively engaged in pursuing the enemy and interpreting raw intel.

That's not a white man. That's a fair individual who as well could be a Nigerian. The only pilot clearly shown in that vice video was a black person.


Coming from a Person whose military was thoroughly beaten, left abandoned and had to resort to begging french forces...... I'll have to take that with a pinch.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:45pm On Apr 17, 2015
Henry120:


Nope, they did. U.S mercenaries actively engaged in pursuing the enemy and interpreting raw intel.

That's not a white man. That's a fair individual who as well could be a Nigerian. The only pilot clearly shown in that vice video was a black person.


Coming from a Person whose military was thoroughly beaten, left abandoned and had to resort to begging french forces...... I'll have to take that with a pinch.

1. Citation needed
2. Blond hair + white skin = white man
3. OMG, 200 men were pushed back by 3000-5000? What a shock!!

16 000 dead and 1,6 million displaced, a caliphate the size of belgium cut out of your land and relying on foreign soldiers and mercenaries to save you. That is a greatest mark of shame, and you shall have to wear it for eternity!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:56pm On Apr 17, 2015
Patchesagain:


1. the F-117 was not shot down by a WW2 Air Defence system in Serbia.
2. Citation needed.
2a. Detection =/= the ability to target what you have detected. (short-wave versus untra-long wave)
3. F-35 may be operating at any hight. It will be stealthyer at low level than high level
4. I dont think you have any idea of what systems-based warfare is
5. Thats an LHD, and is not a naval combat system like AEGIS or PAAMS. The fact that they ordered french ones and were unable to build their own says allot about how underdeveloped they are.

1. The F117 was shot down by an obsolete world war II ADS..... There goes your stealth.

2. Go read on it.

3. Stealth Fighters like the F-35 are a Trillion dollars waste of resources. Stealth technology can't even meet up with advances in Radar tech.

4. Air campaigns are all system based. From the campaigns in the North-East of Nigeria - the most widely imagined US v.s Russia combats, Airforces deploy varying degress of data linked systems which allow them better prosecute/ defend objectives.

5. Yeah, what ever it is, the USMC purchased harrier jump jets from the brits, turkey supplies the Americans MRAPs and boeing purchased Patria AMVs from finland and the stryker IFV is a mowag.

Simply put, nobody is an island.

However, each individual country can build whatever system they buy abroad as soon as relationships get hostile.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:00pm On Apr 17, 2015
Patchesagain:


1. Citation needed
2. Blond hair + white skin = white man
3. OMG, 200 men were pushed back by 3000-5000? What a shock!!

16 000 dead and 1,6 million displaced, a caliphate the size of belgium cut out of your land and relying on foreign soldiers and mercenaries to save you. That is a greatest mark of shame, and you shall have to wear it for eternity!

Let's not even start with South-Africa, were virtually all black people are internally displaced. What's the percentage again, 90% of the population only own 10% of the land....

Fair individual, yeah, definitely is a Nigerian.

Nope, your Special forces been roundly defeated by a bunch of hoe/ cutlass wielding farmers.

"Seleka spokesperson Eric Massi said the rebels had broken through a line of South African soldiers during their push into the city."

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 5:37pm On Apr 17, 2015
Henry120:


Stealth is over-rated. A world war II Air defense system shot down the F-117 stealth bomber in Serbia (yugoslavia).

World war II Radars routinely pick up radar cross-sections of "stealth bombers".

Would our stealth bomber be doing NOE at 20,000 ft?

EW systems aren't stealth. For a comprehensive E.W, our "stealth fighters" would need to be escorted by Prowlers.

The Russians aren't behind in western governments in maritime systems. Russia ordered 2 Mistral warships from France, so?

They posses the capability to produce LPDs if they so desire.


They're behind cause they don't have that capability now. They went for a foreign vessel for a reason.

Russia doesn't see much action. They follow western weapons development projects.

Stealth from ground, sea and air warfare is not overrated.

Only 1 F-117 was lost in combat like many sources say it was spotted when its bays opened to drop weapons.

Nothing in today's long range bombers come close the B-2 spirit bomber.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 5:39pm On Apr 17, 2015
Henry120:


Let's not even start with South-Africa, were virtually all black people are internally displaced. What's the percentage again, 90% of the population only own 10% of the land....

Fair individual, yeah, definitely is a Nigerian.

Nope, your Special forces been roundly defeated by a bunch of hoe/ cutlass wielding farmers.

"Seleka spokesperson Eric Massi said the rebels had broken through a line of South African soldiers during their push into the city."


Our mercenaries liberated you.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:42pm On Apr 17, 2015
Msauza:


Our mercenaries liberated you.....

..... Without firing one bullet ? LOL....Spirit mecenaries like Ghost Rider gringrin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 5:42pm On Apr 17, 2015
COMPLETE DEATH BLOW...

I didnt even notice. Good eyes. I wonder what their excuse will be....

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 5:47pm On Apr 17, 2015
agaugust:


You are just another victim of the shiny school building + dull brain students South African educational system.

You want to compare American cold with South African cold?

I was talking about cold weather that kills people if they have no heater for their homes. Does South African cold kill people? How many homes in South Africa are PERMANENTLY constructed with winter heater fitted like in America?

Snow photos you poster there means nothing, there is snow in Tanzanian atop mount Kilimanjaro.

Snow can cover a city and it's just + 2 degrees Celsius.

Have you ever seen - 50 degrees Celsius in South Africa?

How many of your homes are covered by frozen long icicles every year?

Your failed Southie educational system did not teach you people people how to argue within context of a debate. No wonder Nigerian teachers are taking jobs away from your lazy dullards and your only response is Xenophobic attacks killing your fellow African black men on the streets.

ANC nation of animalistic babarians !
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Overseas seasons are same as those in SA and the rest of Africa has only two seasons which are, dry and wet season. SA has four seasons same as UK and US.


cold weather kills many people in SA. We are used to cold weather that kills @agaugau my pathetic fellow.

As the winter is coming like today, we are getting very happy because we love winter.


http://iolmobile.co.za/#!/article/girl-3-killed-as-cold-weather-hits-sa-1.1359561
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 5:49pm On Apr 17, 2015
Henry120:



5. Yeah, what ever it is, the USMC purchased harrier jump jets from the brits, turkey supplies the Americans MRAPs and boeing purchased Patria AMVs from finland and the stryker IFV is a mowag.

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Western nations.

Just like how we still count Ukraine weapons as "eastern"
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:18pm On Apr 17, 2015
Patchesagain:


US Mercenaries in Iraq did not take up combat roles only defensive ones.

SADF foreign fighters were restricted to a battalion of 850 men and were led and trained by South Africans.

Pic related, white bloke flying one of your hinds in combat

I give your argument: 2/10.

Apply yourself in future.

Foreign fighters saved your country and liberated your people. Deal with it.

Cool, you have now admitted:

America used mercenaries in Iraq for defensive role. Never mind the fact that combat is both offensive and defensive, a fight is a fight. Defensive combat, offensive combat, all is = combat.

SADF used at least a whole battalion of foreign white and black mercenaries in Angolan war....never mind the fact that over 60,000 black Angolan UNITA rebels were finaced by South Africa to directly fight Cuban army for many years while SADF deployed only 4,000 troops..... so UNITA rebels takes 90% glory for the ground war efforts against Cuban army.

Meanwhile in Nigerian war on Boko Haram, NO SINGLE MERCENARY FIRED ONE BULLET....yes, we had a PMC of 5 trainers who mentored 100 Nigerian troops called strike force, lightly armed men with ordinary machine guns that could not cover 0.0001 % of the war zone bigger than Scotland.

The photo of a pilot flying the Hind helicopter is the backview of a faceless man whose jacket collar is assumed by you to be human blonde hair. Have you ever heard of international standard called positive identification? Have you seen where an embassy gives visa to a man whose international passport shows the back of his head and all covered with helmet and heavy jackets... please show us the face of that pilot, we need to see a white-man's face to prove your mercenary is flying Mi-35 Hind....show us the pilots face !
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Camouflaged or covered images, backview of heavily clothed people, is inadmissible evidence/exhibit in court anywhere in this world.

You are a real grade A category Mumu gringrin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 6:25pm On Apr 17, 2015
agaugust:


Cool, you have now admitted:

America used mercenaries in Iraq for defensive role. Never mind the fact that combat is both offensive and defensive, a fight is a fight. Defensive combat, offensive combat, all is = combat.

SADF used at least a whole battalion of foreign white and black mercenaries in Angolan war....never mind the fact that over 60,000 black Angolan UNITA rebels were paid cash by South Africa to Cuban army while SADF deployed only 4,000 troops..... so UNITA rebels takes 90% glory for the ground war against Cuban army.

The photo of a pilot flying the Hind helicopter is a faceless man whose jacket collar is assumed by you to be human blonde hair. Have you ever heard of international standard called positive identification? Have you seen where an embassy gives visa to a man whose international passport shows the back of his head and all covered with helmet and heavy jackets... please show us the face of that pilot, we need to see a white-man's face to prove your mercenary is flying Mi-35 Hind....show us the pilots face !
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Camouflaged or covered, unidentifiable evidence or exhibit is inadmissible in court anywhere in this world....

Mumu gringrin


SA mercenaries saved you from destruction
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:32pm On Apr 17, 2015
Msauza:



SA mercenaries saved you from destruction

# ShowUs SA Mercenary Photos Fighting Combat Against BokoHaram gringrin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:41pm On Apr 17, 2015
MikeCZAR:


They're behind cause they don't have that capability now. They went for a foreign vessel for a reason.

Russia doesn't see much action. They follow western weapons development projects.

Stealth from ground, sea and air warfare is not overrated.

Only 1 F-117 was lost in combat like many sources say it was spotted when its bays opened to drop weapons.

Nothing in today's long range bombers come close the B-2 spirit bomber.

Russia has defeated stealth with long range TV-Video cameras equipped new Su-30 and Su-35 flankers, nothing escapes their detection....stealth is defeated by Russia, Sukhoi flankers are now ahead of western jet fighters
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ELKASPBG(m): 6:49pm On Apr 17, 2015
Patchesagain:


US Mercenaries in Iraq did not take up combat roles only defensive ones.

SADF foreign fighters were restricted to a battalion of 850 men and were led and trained by South Africans.

Pic related, white bloke flying one of your hinds in combat

I give your argument: 2/10.

Apply yourself in future.

Foreign fighters saved your country and liberated your people. Deal with it.

i now believe south african are going blind are you telling me that nigeria is soo poor to purchase gloves for their combat fighters? why is it that you guys are soo blind to see that the pilot removed the gloves when he was alighting the mi- helli?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:04pm On Apr 17, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Western nations.

Just like how we still count Ukraine weapons as "eastern"

"You think the Germans would take arms against Russia if the west Nato members engage them in conflict?".......... It won't happen.

my point is, the big countries can, and would develop those systems if they are pressed to do so. No country is independent.

Russia and france have a jointly developed AMV they are developing/promoting.

How's that for "western"?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ChukwuCantDie: 7:16pm On Apr 17, 2015
osystein:


They have no shame, moronic bastards, why do white people hate us so much?
It doesnt matter why they hate us so much, all that matters is all Africans are aware that whites have and always will be the enemy of Africa along with corrupt leaders that sell their nations out to the whites for a banana and a bike.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 7:41pm On Apr 17, 2015
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:59pm On Apr 17, 2015
ChukwuCantDie:
It doesnt matter why they hate us so much, all that matters is all Africans are aware that whites have and always will be the enemy of Africa along with corrupt leaders that sell their nations out to the whites for a banana and a bike.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA: Cool Story Bro!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:01pm On Apr 17, 2015

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