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Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by ClintonNzedimma(m): 8:18pm On Apr 16, 2015
timbros:


Why should I forget the stats? On what basis should we rate him if not stats?
okay...i mean there are players with better stats.
Neymar, robben, suarez, sanchez.
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by timbros(m): 8:24pm On Apr 16, 2015
ClintonNzedimma:

okay...i mean there are players with better stats.
Neymar, robben, suarez, sanchez.

Post their stats please.
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by Nobody: 8:25pm On Apr 16, 2015
Hazard is a quality player who can transition d game at any moment.Full of pace, trickery and all dt.Credits to him bt he is not in my opinion among d top 10 players in world football . luckily he has age on his time and will get there if he works hard!

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Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by raumdeuter: 2:38am On Apr 17, 2015
timbros:


Post their stats please.

All these have more goals than Hazard
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by timbros(m): 9:40am On Apr 17, 2015
Souness believes Chelsea’s Eden Hazard is close to Messi and Ronaldo

Former Liverpool midfielder Graeme Souness believes Chelsea winger Eden Hazard is approaching the level of Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo, reports the Daily Mail.

The Belgium international made his 100th Premier League appearance during the Blues’ 1-0 win against Queens Park Rangers on Saturday. He set up Cesc Fabregas’ 88th-minute winner at Loftus Road to help Jose Mourinho’s men take an important step towards the title.

Hazard is considered the frontrunner for this season’s Player of the Year award as a result of his consistent excellence, The 24-year-old has scored 12 goals, registered eight assists and also completed 148 take-ons – more than any other player in Europe’s top five leagues.

Souness believes Hazard has the potential to get even better in the future, and he feels he isn’t far from the level of Messi and Ronaldo.

Speaking on Sky Sports, he said: “The way he goes past players, he makes good players look ordinary. He’s a bit like Messi and Ronaldo in that when you see them go past people, you think “that’s bad defending”, but no it’s not not. These guys are just that good and Hazard is close to that category.

“He certainly needs more goals for me but he’s one of the few players that gets you on the edge of your seat every time you watch him play. I still think there is much more to come from him in the future.”

Souness continued to praise Hazard’s dribbling – the one area he’s outshone the La Liga superstars in this season – adding: “He’s got dancing feet hasn’t he? When he runs with the ball it’s never more than nine inches away from his feet.

“So if you’re a defender, the minute you stick out a foot, he’s skipped past you. He’s got great feet and looks to be a strong boy too. If you look at him he’s all there, if he wants to stand up to challenges he definitely can.”

Chelsea have already won the Capital One Cup this season, and they are on course to win the league for the first time since 2010.

Mourinho’s side are currently seven points clear at the top of the table with a game in hand and face third-placed Manchester United at Stamford Bridge this weekend.

Hazard has played more key passes than any other Premier League player this season (79).

http://www.squawka.com/news/souness-believes-chelseas-eden-hazard-is-close-to-messi-and-ronaldo/353654

Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by timbros(m): 9:55am On Apr 17, 2015
raumdeuter:


All these have more goals than Hazard

Right.

So Harry Kane is a better player compared to Neymar and Aguero.

No arguments.
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by raumdeuter: 2:05pm On Apr 17, 2015
timbros:


Right.

So Harry Kane is a better player compared to Neymar and Aguero.

No arguments.

This season Harry kane is better than Aguero
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by Pdizzle(m): 4:56pm On Apr 17, 2015
timbros:


http://www.squawka.com/news/souness-believes-chelseas-eden-hazard-is-close-to-messi-and-ronaldo/353654

which android app is that pls?
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by Pdizzle(m): 4:58pm On Apr 17, 2015
raumdeuter:


All these have more goals than Hazard

Hazard have more key passes, take ons and has created more chances than them.
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by raumdeuter: 5:00pm On Apr 17, 2015
Pdizzle:


Hazard have more key passes, take ons and has created more chances than them.

How many assists does he have to show for this dribbles and take ons
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by Nobody: 5:11pm On Apr 17, 2015
Y are we deviating from this thread?Hazard may be a better player than Reus,Bale or whoever...I really don't care.Am concerned abt the comparisons to Ronaldo and Messi.And we all knw the obvious answer to this preposterous claim.
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by timbros(m): 5:52pm On Apr 17, 2015
Pdizzle:


which android app is that pls?

Squawka app. Its in play store.
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by timbros(m): 5:55pm On Apr 17, 2015
Kemizee:
Y are we deviating from this thread?Hazard may be a better player than Reus,Bale or whoever...I really don't care.Am concerned abt the comparisons to Ronaldo and Messi.And we all knw the obvious answer to this preposterous claim.

The obvious answer is that Hazard is not yet in the same bracket wit Ronaldo and Messi.

But he is JUST below them.
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by raumdeuter: 6:28pm On Apr 17, 2015
Hazard is wayy below Messi and Ronaldo

He is below Robben, Neymar, Suarez, Bale Sanchez.

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Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by liveLongNprospa(m): 9:17pm On Apr 17, 2015
timbros:


The obvious answer is that Hazard is not yet in the same bracket wit Ronaldo and Messi.

But he is JUST below them.
Bros he is way below them..like very low...he's not even at the level they were 5yrs ago and trust me when I say neymar is far better and more productive than hazard
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by A40(m): 10:06pm On Apr 17, 2015
missclasssy:


Please take away
Gotze
Reus
Muller
and Sanchez away from there

Hazard is better than these ones......
How is Hazard better than Reus, Mueller, Goetze and Sanchez. If we take out Hazard's penalties I wonder how many goals he would have left?

All his performances so far are restricted to the Premier League. What about the Champions League?
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by A40(m): 10:11pm On Apr 17, 2015
Chelsea and EPL fans might kill Hazard with excessive overhype. How can he improve when sycophants already think he is at the same level with Messi and Ronaldo.
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by timbros(m): 10:58pm On Apr 17, 2015
liveLongNprospa:

Bros he is way below them..like very low...he's not even at the level they were 5yrs ago and trust me when I say neymar is far better and more productive than hazard

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Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by timbros(m): 11:05pm On Apr 17, 2015
raumdeuter:


This season Harry kane is better than Aguero

... And Neymar
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by timbros(m): 11:22pm On Apr 17, 2015
A40:

How is Hazard better than Reus, Mueller, Goetze and Sanchez. If we take out Hazard's penalties I wonder how many goals he would have left?

All his performances so far are restricted to the Premier League. What about the Champions League?

If I may ask, why should we take out his penalties? Did you actually read that your comment before posting?

@bolded: yea right. Same way Messi performances are restricted to Barcelona. What about Argentina?
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by Debroslink: 11:36pm On Apr 17, 2015
timbros:


... And Neymar

Tell me one quality Hazard has over the following players in the area of goals and assists? The players below are above Hazard when we talk about producing the goods; not just useless dribbles.

1. Neymar 28 goals 14 assists
2. Suarez 18 goals 13 assists
3. Sanchez
4. Robben
5. Reus
6. Koke 5 goals 14 assists
7. Greizman 21 goals 9 assists
8. James 14 goals 10 assists (minus 2 months injury)
9. Francisco Alcacer 14 goals 8 assists
10. Carlos Bacca 21 goals 9 assists
11. Kelvin Gameiro 14 goals 8 assists


Those stats are players who play in the world's best league...LA LIGA.

I did not bother to mention the big 2 of world football because it's an insult to place Hazard just below them.

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Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by Debroslink: 11:39pm On Apr 17, 2015
timbros:


If I may ask, why should we take out his penalties? Did you actually read that your comment before posting?

@bolded: yea right. Same way Messi performances are restricted to Barcelona. What about Argentina?

Messi led Argentina to d world cup final. He has also won the youth tournaments. Tell me what Hazard has done for Belgium. Feliani is rated higher than Hazard in Belgium.

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Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by Pdizzle(m): 11:41pm On Apr 17, 2015
raumdeuter:


How many assists does he have to show for this dribbles and take ons

He has created 85 goal chances, highest in the league, more than messi and ronaldo
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by Debroslink: 11:42pm On Apr 17, 2015
timbros:


If I may ask, why should we take out his penalties? Did you actually read that your comment before posting?

@bolded: yea right. Same way Messi performances are restricted to Barcelona. What about Argentina?

Tell us any memorable thing Hazard has done in UCL or even Europa league that makes u over rate him like that.
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by Debroslink: 11:43pm On Apr 17, 2015
Pdizzle:


He has created 85 goal chances, highest in the league, more than messi and ronaldo

And how many were converted into goals?
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by A40(m): 11:59pm On Apr 17, 2015
timbros:


If I may ask, why should we take out his penalties? Did you actually read that your comment before posting?

@bolded: yea right. Same way Messi performances are restricted to Barcelona. What about Argentina?
Messi is Argentina's 2nd highest goalscorer of all-time after Batigoal. He helped his country to a World Cup Final

How can you compare that to a European and International nobody like Hazard

While we can't take out the penalties it is always important to note that over 40% of his goals come from the spot. Always add that caveat

EPL you people hype players too much in that league but when it matters most you are always nowhere to be found

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Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by timbros(m): 12:02am On Apr 18, 2015
Debroslink:


Tell me one quality Hazard has over the following players in the area of goals and assists? The players below are above Hazard when we talk about producing the goods; not just useless dribbles.

1. Neymar 28 goals 14 assists
2. Suarez 18 goals 13 assists
3. Sanchez
4. Robben
5. Reus
6. Koke 5 goals 14 assists
7. Greizman 21 goals 9 assists
8. James 14 goals 10 assists (minus 2 months injury)
9. Francisco Alcacer 14 goals 8 assists
10. Carlos Bacca 21 goals 9 assists
11. Kelvin Gameiro 14 goals 8 assists


Those stats are players who play in the world's best league...LA LIGA.

I did not bother to mention the big 2 of world football because it's an insult to place Hazard just below them.





This thread has a topic. And the topic contains names. If you want to compare Hazard with those names you listed, open a thread for it. Don't deviate.

Thank you.
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by A40(m): 12:04am On Apr 18, 2015
timbros:


I just dey laugh you with all these stats wey you dey post. Stats that show Hazard has played over 900 more minutes than Goetze and Neymar yet can only produce 7 goals from open play. Laughable
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by Pdizzle(m): 12:09am On Apr 18, 2015
Debroslink:


And how many were converted into goals?

Bro stop hating, creative players are rated with chances created because that's putting another player ina position to score. Whether it becomes a goal depends on the teammate assisted.
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by timbros(m): 12:21am On Apr 18, 2015
A40:

Messi is Argentina's 2nd highest goalscorer of all-time after Batigoal. He helped his country to a World Cup Final

How can you compare that to a European and International nobody like Hazard

While we can't take out the penalties it is always important to note that over 40% of his goals come from the spot. Always add that caveat

EPL you people hype players too much in that league but when it matters most you are always nowhere to be found

2nd highest? Why not highest? World cup final? Why not world cup winner?

Btw before you start misquoting me, I never compared Hazard's career to Messi's. I brought Messi's Argentina career up to show you that for Hazard to perform well in one competition and not too well in another doesn't make him a bad player like you want to paint him. For all his records smashed in Barca, Messi still doesn't have anything to show in the Argentine shirt. BUT that doesn't take away the fact that he is a phenomenal player.

Stop hating on Hazard. I have provided screenshots showing how good Hazard is. Provide yours to show how crop he is and let's see. You won't. All you guys do is shout up and down how overhyped Hazard is.

You still haven't told me why we should remove Hazard’s penalties.

Or you want to tell me that you don't know that teams have particular players that take responsibility of PK? Is it Hazard’s fault that he has that responsibility in Chelsea? Wait, do you think that penalty goals are that cheap? Haven't you seen or read of people that missed as much as three PK in a match? Are Ronaldo and Messi not penalty takers in their respective teams? Why should Hazard’s case be different?
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by timbros(m): 12:31am On Apr 18, 2015
A40:

I just dey laugh you with all these stats wey you dey post. Stats that show Hazard has played over 900 more minutes than Goetze and Neymar yet can only produce 7 goals from open play. Laughable

You guys keep shouting goals assists goals assists as if that is the only criteria for knowing the best players. Granted, goals and assists are VERY important part of a great player's game. But have you asked yourself this: How many goals or assists does Fabio Cannavaro have in 2006 to be crowned world best?

Look at those screenshots again. You will notice different aspects to ones game that will make him a COMPLETE player. Not just goals and assists. Zidane have never been a highest goalscorer when he won his world bests... I can go on and on to name great players who don't score that many goals but are undoubtedly football greats.

I still maintain that although Hazard is not in the same bracket with Ronaldo/Messi, he is not that far from them.

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Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by timbros(m): 12:34am On Apr 18, 2015
Debroslink:


Messi led Argentina to d world cup final. He has also won the youth tournaments. Tell me what Hazard has done for Belgium. Feliani is rated higher than Hazard in Belgium.

Your post is laughable bro.

Youth tournaments? Lol... And who rates Feliani higher than Hazard in the Belgium team? You maybe.

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