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Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by timbros(m): 12:41am On Apr 18, 2015 |
Debroslink: Another laughable post. So you are waiting for something memorable from Hazard in UCL or EL before you rate him? Lol... Well you need something memorable. Isn't this memorable?
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Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by liveLongNprospa(m): 1:37am On Apr 18, 2015 |
timbros:ND u do realise he has played 5more games than neymar....stop bringing gotze into dis argument bcoz wen gotze was busy having a stellar 2014 hazard was no where to be found ..EPL can hype sha |
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by raumdeuter: 3:34am On Apr 18, 2015 |
Pdizzle: Goal chances isnt assist Once again how many assists does he have |
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by raumdeuter: 3:34am On Apr 18, 2015 |
timbros: What was his contribution to winning the cup? |
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by raumdeuter: 3:35am On Apr 18, 2015 |
timbros: Canavaro led his team to win the world cup WHat has Hazard done in his career 1 Like |
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by ClintonNzedimma(m): 7:49am On Apr 18, 2015 |
raumdeuter:leave him, he doesnt know what he is talking about, i blame orijin drink for this. Even Neymar has won a trophy with Brazil |
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by Debroslink: 7:53am On Apr 18, 2015 |
timbros:Memorable moments are when 1. Messi scored 4 goals against Arsenal 2. Messi scored a header against Man Utd in final 3. Ronaldo destroyed Bayern in semi final 4. Forlan ruined Fulham in Europa Final 5. Diego Milito destroyed Bayern in Final 6. Ribery murdered Barca in semifinal 7. Arda Turan killed Chelsea in semifinal 8. Drogba killed Bayern in final Tell me a memorable moment your overrated Hazard has in Europe. Just One. |
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by timbros(m): 10:42am On Apr 18, 2015 |
raumdeuter: Lol.... I know that's exactly what your reply is going to be. So this time around, goals don't count abi? But when it comes to Hazard, it's goals goals goals. Okay George Weah led Liberia to win the world cup when he won world best. Now I see. |
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by timbros(m): 10:51am On Apr 18, 2015 |
Debroslink: If winning your first trophy in your first season in a new club isn't memorable, then I don't know which memorable you're talking about again.
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Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by timbros(m): 10:53am On Apr 18, 2015 |
raumdeuter: Then go and collect the medal from him because he didn't score 100 goals enroute winning the cup. |
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by timbros(m): 10:55am On Apr 18, 2015 |
liveLongNprospa: I never added Goetze in the comparison myself. It's an already made comparison I pulled from a website. My interest there is Hazard and Neymar. |
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by raumdeuter: 2:28pm On Apr 18, 2015 |
timbros: So Mikel too won a trophy. Hazard was very inconsequential to the Europa win |
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by timbros(m): 3:02pm On Apr 18, 2015 |
raumdeuter: No Mikel didn't win a trophy. You did |
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by A40(m): 4:36pm On Apr 18, 2015 |
timbros:Apples and oranges. Cannavaro is a defender. So long as Hazard a Wing Forward is in the discussion then goals and assists must matter since he has not performed in any major international competition for club or country timbros:Zidane does not play the same position as Hazard. He won his WPOTY because he always played key roles in helping his club or country win major competitions. The greats always showed up when it mattered most. Hazard does not have the goals and has not performed in major competitions so pray tell what do we rate him on. The number of dribbles and key passes vs Stoke City, QPR and West Brom? Abeggi |
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by A40(m): 4:37pm On Apr 18, 2015 |
timbros:What was his contribution. Which match did he prove to be the difference maker? Simple question you can't answer |
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by Pdizzle(m): 4:46pm On Apr 18, 2015 |
raumdeuter: Bros it's not only about goals and assists, even though he has his own share of them with 13 goals and 8 assists. The main thing is about his build up plays that makes his team a threat. Nobody has a greater match influence than him apart from messi and ronaldo. How many goals and assist does iniesta have in his entire career. We all know how iniesta and xavi were well rated past any premier league midfielder when Lampard has better stats than both of them combined. |
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by timbros(m): 4:50pm On Apr 18, 2015 |
A40: Which simple question didn't I answer oga? Isn't lifting Europa League in his first season with Chelsea memorable enough? You REALLY need to see the question I quoted that answer with again. |
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by A40(m): 4:53pm On Apr 18, 2015 |
timbros:Lukaku also lifted the Champions League at Chelsea. What is your point? If Hazard is so good what did he contribute to the win? What was his memorable contribution besides holding the trophy that other players sweated for? |
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by timbros(m): 4:54pm On Apr 18, 2015 |
A40: Going by you guys arguments, defenders shouldn't even be nominated for world best not to talk of winning it. Because according to you, it's all about goals goals goals. So Zidane doesn't play the same wing with Hazard but you can conveniently compare Hazard with Ronaldo, Messi, Suarez etc, abi? |
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by timbros(m): 4:56pm On Apr 18, 2015 |
A40: Yes Lukaku is a champions league winner with Chelsea. Any problem with that? Maybe Chelsea should have been playing a man down (without Hazard) and see if they will lift the trophy. Btw you haven't told me why we should take away Hazard's penalty goals. |
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by raumdeuter: 5:06pm On Apr 18, 2015 |
Pdizzle: In 12/13 Iniesta had double digit assists for most of his career in Barcelona And you are showing us Hazard with 8 assists |
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by Pdizzle(m): 5:10pm On Apr 18, 2015 |
raumdeuter: Please screen shot, what of 2010 when he got most awards. And let us see how many goals he scored. |
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by raumdeuter: 5:29pm On Apr 18, 2015 |
Pdizzle: In 2010 scored 2 goals in a world cup including the winning goal. How did Hazard perform at the world cup And which awards did he win in 2010? |
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by A40(m): 5:47pm On Apr 18, 2015 |
timbros:He is only 28 there is ample time to break the record. World Cup Final na yam? If its easy why has your Hazard not sniffed it? Don't bring Messi as an example! He has Champions League excellence to make up for it. What is Hazard's excuse? 1 semi-final, A group stage and second round exit for Hazard. Using Messi as a yardstick is laughable timbros:Hating on an overrated Hazard? Nobody got time for that! My team is filled with greatness and players who are World Champions. Mueller, Schweinsteiger, Lahm, Ribery, Robben, Goetze, Neuer. We are used to excellence that is why dribble stats vs Stoke and the likes no dey make our body dey vibrate The most annoying part is Gareth Bale even played more than what Hazard is playing now yet no one dared make comparisons to players that were his superiors Your statistics are faulty. It shows Hazard has played over 900minutes more than his nearest competitors! That is the equivalent of 10 matches! Despite that Hazard still fails to have a clear edge against his competition. And that is even in the league. What of in the Champions League where Hazard is nowhere to be found timbros:I didn't say remove I said always make that consideration when talking about his goalscoring record It is easier to score from penalties than from open play if not for penalties the likes of Rooney and Gerrard would not score 10 goals in a season these days. Don't compare Ronaldo and Messi to Hazard. Penalties do not make 30% of Ronaldo's and Messi's goals. |
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by A40(m): 6:40pm On Apr 18, 2015 |
timbros:That is a wrong conclusion to make. Manuel Neuer made the 3 man shortlist and no one complained about it. A defender can win it if they played exceptionally over the course of a season. However with forwards you can't throw away goals especially when said players did not win major titles especially when the competition has done just that. Yes we can make the comparison. Hazard is a LWF. He plays the same position as a Neymar and Cristiano Ronaldo. You guys are just making excuses! He lacks the titles and the goals yet for some reason he is close to them or as good as them timbros:Which is ironic because they actually won the Final without Hazard. ROTFLOL No one said take away Hazard's penalties. You have still not told us what is Hazard's memorable contribution in elite Europe |
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by timbros(m): 7:24pm On Apr 18, 2015 |
Haters gonna hate.... Hazard 1-0 Man Utd Nuff said. No more comment on this thread! KTBFFH! |
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by Pdizzle(m): 8:40pm On Apr 18, 2015 |
raumdeuter: Hazard was a teenager in 2010,and you can't compare Belgium to Spain. |
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by raumdeuter: 8:49pm On Apr 18, 2015 |
Pdizzle: In 2014 nko? WHat did Hazard do at the world cup? |
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by Pdizzle(m): 8:59pm On Apr 18, 2015 |
raumdeuter: So that's enough to disqualify Hazard, he will suffer for the whole country's sin, no be Brazil neymar dy in 2014 |
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by Debroslink: 9:01pm On Apr 18, 2015 |
timbros: A depleted man utd side where Rooney became defensive midfielder. Una no dey shame. Wake me up when Hazard scores winning goals against PSG, Atletico Madrid 2 Likes |
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by raumdeuter: 9:44pm On Apr 18, 2015 |
Pdizzle: He is supposed to be one of his countries best players and he let them down. At the world cup he was one of the tournaments flop |
Re: Hazard Is As Good As Messi And Ronaldo by Pdizzle(m): 10:44am On Apr 19, 2015 |
raumdeuter: he didn't let them down, the whole Belgium team was nothing to write home about. |
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