ifeness:


I am not the one claiming there is a god. If I were,I would be required to give evidence.

Do you have a car?

What I'm saying is that God is a possibility that cannot be discarded without reason, because our origin is either conscious or unconscious, and God falls under the former.

Misogynist2014:
What I told ifeness was that since consciousness and unconsciousness are the two possible solutions to the problem of our origin. It is also true that God is under consciousness, isn't it right to disprove the possibility of His existence first before discarding Him?

Lmao...You are still making an assertion without proof meaning it remains a claim and not a possibility.. Until you are able to substantiate this claim then their will be something to disprove.. For now their isnt

ifeness:


We are the consciousness not God. We exist,not God. Some of us created God to feel lazy.

If you are then asserting that there is no possibility of conscious origin, you must have a reason.

Misogynist2014:
What I'm saying is that God is a possibility that cannot be discarded without reason, because our origin is either conscious or unconscious, and God falls under the former.

god concept is a claim or lets say a hypothesis... And what do you mean by Conscious or unconscious origin?

Misogynist2014:
If you are then asserting that there is no possibility of conscious origin, you must have a reason.

What do you mean by conscious origin?

johnydon22:


Lmao...You are still making an assertion without proof meaning it remains a claim and not a possibility.. Until you are able to substantiate this claim then their will be something to disprove.. For now their isnt

You mean a conscious origin of our conscious planet is not conceivable and has 0% possibility!? This is definitely a claim (if it is not a claim, what then is a claim) and must have a reason.

johnydon22:


What do you mean by conscious origin?

What then have you been commenting on?

Misogynist2014:
What then have you been commenting on?

Elaborate more on your idea of conscious origin, let us have a full grasp of what you are implying by conscious or unconscious origin ... Once and for all

Misogynist2014:
If you are then asserting that there is no possibility of conscious origin, you must have a reason.

There is no origin. Consciousness is eternal. We are endless and without beginning. We are nothing but energy. After the big bang,the universe happened. Collusion of energy gave rise to us and we are yet the energy. Deal with it.

Misogynist2014:
What I'm saying is that God is a possibility that cannot be discarded without reason, because our origin is either conscious or unconscious, and God falls under the former.

You and I,the trees,mountains,stars and billions of galaxies are the God you are talking about. That is why you can say God is in you. which also means you are made up of energy.

Misogynist2014:
What I told ifeness was that since consciousness and unconsciousness are the two possible solutions to the problem of our origin. It is also true that God is under consciousness, isn't it right to disprove the possibility of His existence first before discarding Him?

Science is the future not the christian God. Follow science and you will know better.

johnydon22:


Elaborate more on your idea of conscious origin, let us have a full grasp of what you are implying by conscious or unconscious origin ... Once and for all

Origin that is conscious and origin that is unconscious. What is hard to grasp there? This is what you try to do when you see you've been stalemated, instead of you to surrender and accept loss, you try to meander your sword, trying to divert from the main issue, until a new fight is established in which you'll beat me with experience.

ifeness:



Science is the future not the christian God. Follow science and you will know better.

Who put all the materials scientists need with us? Big Bang?

ifeness:


You and I,the trees,mountains,stars and billions of galaxies are the God you are talking about. That is why you can say God is in you. which also means you are made up of energy.

How are we the origin?

Misogynist2014:
Who put all the materials scientists need with us? Big Bang?

Do you know how many possible planets are out there? Some solar system don't even survive. New worlds are created every time. Some survive and some don't. It is all chance. Before us dinosaurs roamed on this planet and after us other creatures will roam on it.

Who created the Volcanic mountains. They were all created through-interactive energy.

Misogynist2014:
Origin that is conscious and origin that is unconscious. What is hard to grasp there? This is what you try to do when you see you've been stalemated, instead of you to surrender and accept loss, you try to meander your sword, trying to divert from the main issue, until a new fight is established in which you'll beat me with experience.

Hahahahahahahaha... Go through our discussion and see who really is stalemated and have lost every ounce of argument left...

You asserted a conscious and unconscious origin, i asked you to define what you mean by that, and you cant even do that? ...lmao . . why am i even still wasting my time with this guy.. I have already rubbished your op with my first posts, now you resort to straw man for defence.. If you cant face the topic and not refer to me then am done... Go leak ur wounds boy... Remember to call me next time you need more

Misogynist2014:
How are we the origin?

We are all energy that cannot be created nor destroyed. We change form from one state to another. Science has proven that we are made up of the same particles found on other planet. Name them: Zink,Iron,Potassium,hydrogen etc As you can see we all are consciousness after all.

Misogynist2014,we have killed you on this topic. Give up.

macof:


Sure bro, I just sited that manipulation is a strong term to use
Influencing is much better

everything we do influences energy around us

I don't know much about nuclear energy but I know it involves a nuclear reaction from a change in atomic structure. We simply influence the energy released

Nuclear power is generated from the conversation of mass to energy. As far I am concerned that is manipulation. Even if we went with influence, it means man influences god.

ifeness:


Do you know how many possible planets are out there? Some solar system don't even survive. New worlds are created every time. Some survive and some don't. It is all chance. Before us dinosaurs roamed on this planet and after us other creatures will roam on it.

Who created the Volcanic mountains. They were all created through-interactive energy.

Dinosaurs like Behemoth and Leviathan?

He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heaven by his understanding.

Jeremiah 51:15 ►

Misogynist2014:
Dinosaurs like Behemoth and Leviathan?

He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heaven by his understanding.

Jeremiah 51:15 ►

Give up man. Jewish book is not credible

ifeness:


We are all energy that cannot be created nor destroyed. We change form from one state to another. Science has proven that we are made up of the same particles found on other planet. Name them: Zink,Iron,Potassium,hydrogen etc As you can see we all are consciousness after all.

Misogynist2014,we have killed you on this topic. Give up.

If this is true, how did big bang occur?

johnydon22:


Hahahahahahahaha... Go through our discussion and see who really is stalemated and have lost every ounce of argument left...

You asserted a conscious and unconscious origin, i asked you to define what you mean by that, and you cant even do that? ...lmao . . why am i even still wasting my time with this guy.. I have already rubbished your op with my first posts, now you resort to straw man for defence.. If you cant face the topic and not refer to me then am done... Go leak ur wounds boy... Remember to call me next time you need more

Consciousness is the quality or state of awareness, or,
of being aware of an external object or something within
oneself. While unconsciousness is the opposite.

Misogynist2014:
If this is true, how did big bang occur?

Collusion of energy,just like the Volcanic mountains(which I'm sure you have seen on TV) Then of course intelligent life starts moving on them. With in millions of years you may find fully grown life. Bing bang is occurring every time.

Hiswordxray:

Exactly.
Religion accomplished nothing and science will also accomplish nothing. Human have to stop try to create solutions but accept the solution God have given them.

What has religion been teaching? I really have to know your stand. Are for religion or not? Why are you proclaiming Jesus without the religion established in his name? Finally, where can we get your own god solutions to man's problems?

Misogynist2014:

Consciousness is the quality or state of awareness, or,
of being aware of an external object or something within
oneself. While unconsciousness is the opposite.

Are you not conscious?

ifeness:


Collusion of energy,just like the Volcanic mountains(which I'm sure you have seen on TV) Then of course intelligent life starts moving on them. With in millions of years you may find fully grown life. Bing bang is occurring every time.

Since the energy was not created, where did it come from/

Misogynist2014:
Since the energy was not created, where did it come from/

Don't act as if you do not know energy cannot be created nor destroyed. You covered that in physics class right?

ifeness:


Don't act as if you do not know energy cannot be created nor destroyed. You covered that in physics class right?

You neva answer my question o.

Misogynist2014:
You neva answer my question o.

In physics, energy is a property of objects which can be transferred to other objects or converted into different forms, but cannot be created or destroyed.

Hiswordxray:

What we have today is refined evil and it is not better than primitive evil.

Who is refining it?

Stop expecting a perfect solution. Life itself is not even perfect! Man has tried to bring some order into a disorganised system. Science is on the track to minimise our problems. What is expected from everyone is scientific approach to problem solving and things would fair better. Nigeria needs this method of reasoning.

ifeness:


In physics, energy is a property of objects which can be transferred to other objects or converted into different forms, but cannot be created or destroyed.

How then did big bang come into existence? Not only did it come into existence, it also contained everything we have now in the universe? Also, how can the original conditions that triggered big bang be known?

Misogynist2014:
How then did big bang come into existence? Not only did it come into existence, it also contained everything we have now in the universe? Also, how can the original conditions that triggered big bang be known?

You seem to enjoy me repeating what I have said.