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Re: South African Fan Threatens John Dumelo On Instagram by mzilakazi(m): 1:46pm On Apr 22, 2015 |
lezz: There had always been schools in SA even before 1994. Mandela was a qualified attorney through that education system of the Bantu people. You people seem to think that apartheid was as bad as denying black people education. Nah!! we were only suffering discrimination through the laws but we still had our own schools and universities and still others managed to attend white universities during apartheid. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: South African Fan Threatens John Dumelo On Instagram by mzilakazi(m): 1:50pm On Apr 22, 2015 |
tunderino: Ballot papers were donated. So, did you think about Ubuntu when you were kicking Ghanaians out of your country?
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Re: South African Fan Threatens John Dumelo On Instagram by lezz(m): 1:57pm On Apr 22, 2015 |
mzilakazi:before 1994, the percentage of black south africans was insignificant. as Mandela was to admit after becoming SA president, "we are incapable of running a government . We came from the bush , camps and prisons". this statement knocks out anything you will have to say. |
Re: South African Fan Threatens John Dumelo On Instagram by mzilakazi(m): 1:57pm On Apr 22, 2015 |
lezz: Mandela through his influence pushed for the sanctions of Nigeria out of the Commonwealth until they agree to imposing Democracy. Damn!! Mandela helped to liberate Nigeria. |
Re: South African Fan Threatens John Dumelo On Instagram by lezz(m): 2:03pm On Apr 22, 2015 |
tunderino: he is an ignorant, tactless troll who doesn't even know what is happening in south africa.. |
Re: South African Fan Threatens John Dumelo On Instagram by Dragonking: 2:05pm On Apr 22, 2015 |
While some people are deceiving themselves, ECOWAS has condemned the xenophobic attacks. The ECOWAS president who is the president of Ghana came to Nigeria to greet the president elect in Abuja. (This shows mutualism and respect between both countries) ![]() ECOWAS condemns 'barbaric' xenophobic attacks in South Africa http://www.myjoyonline.com/news/2015/April-17th/ecowas-condemns-barbaric-xenophobic-attacks-in-south-africa.php http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/xenophobic-attacks-culprits-must-face-justice-says-ecowas/207426/ |
Re: South African Fan Threatens John Dumelo On Instagram by mzilakazi(m): 2:12pm On Apr 22, 2015 |
Dragonking: Let me humbly ask that ECOWAS where were they when the poor Ghanaians were pushed to the sea by Nigerians after the Ghanaian women were impregnated by Nigerian men. The poor women with their big tummies, effected on by h.orny Naija men were kicked out so heartlessly. Did they call a press conference to address the media?
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Re: South African Fan Threatens John Dumelo On Instagram by Dragonking: 2:20pm On Apr 22, 2015 |
mzilakazi: It is far far better than what we are seeing you guys do to other blacks in this modern world. How you guys kill africans from mozambique, ghana, nigeria, zambia, zimbawe, etophia etc is SICK!!!! Am sure you were happy as you saw picture of this man being stabbed to death?
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Re: South African Fan Threatens John Dumelo On Instagram by PunkyOh(f): 2:21pm On Apr 22, 2015 |
lezz: So you want us to admit to a lie & say we grew up in camps, bushes etc just because you misinterpreted his words ? Why so daft? What Mandela said only applies to him & other members of uMkhonto Wesizwe during their military training in places like Lusaka. Of course they were in camps & bushes for their training. Of course they were imprisoned but in no way does it mean the ordinary South African was a bush & camp dweller during Apartheid because that would be a bald face lie. |
Re: South African Fan Threatens John Dumelo On Instagram by Dragonking: 2:33pm On Apr 22, 2015 |
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Re: South African Fan Threatens John Dumelo On Instagram by mzilakazi(m): 2:34pm On Apr 22, 2015 |
Dragonking: That is not xenophobic but criminality. It could have happened to anyone and it happens to every South African in the country. Those are what we call township tsotsis. |
Re: South African Fan Threatens John Dumelo On Instagram by tunderino(m): 2:36pm On Apr 22, 2015 |
mzilakazi: @Mzilakazi welcome. I guess your brother MDU has gone back to the bush where he came from. To educate you. the Word Ubuntu didnt exist before Ghana must go i the 80's mind you. Another thing is that Nigeria and nigherians didnt owe anything to the Ghanians who were working in the country then. And Nigerians didnt kill the Ghanians that were asked to leave. Foreign workers from Chad had rioted in northern Nigeria and killed several Nigerian students. That started a wave of Nigerian protest aimed at the Government of Shehu Shagari, who is seeking re-election as President this fall. The foreign workers became a political issue, so the Government decided to expel them. Nigeria repatriate those without work visas and not killed them. You are indebt of the whole African nations who fought for ur freedom whether you choose to accept it or not. The Military took over from the foolish Shagari government that launched the campaign then for the purpose of re-election. Those responsible were jailed and their assets acquired with corruption confiscated. You guys printed ballot papers as an apology for your Bleep ups to us during Abacha regime and to say thank you for our previous support to your folks during apartheid. The policies u chose to follow didn't even favor the opposition or the masses. You owe us and the rest of africa but we dont owe u a dime. Learn to be grateful and stop being ingrates. |
Re: South African Fan Threatens John Dumelo On Instagram by lezz(m): 2:44pm On Apr 22, 2015 |
mzilakazi:how could you critisize mugabe without critizing your xenophobic zulu thieves? when mugabe siezed white lands, he twisted the law and balanced economic equality. he didnt loot and destroyed their business and shops. those white zimbabweans are mainly british and they scattered across africa including nigeria in the north to practise their advanced farming. now if these same white zimbabweans created social and economic injustice in SA, why didnt your zulu vampires attack the whites who run the economy and own over 70% of the land? why attack fellow blacks who have spaza shops, restaurant business, car shops and barbing salons that even employ some native SA? You are too weak to shoulder responsibility. too short to carry the weight of shame. too cowardly to accept blame. #XENOPHOBICSA is already trending.. |
Re: South African Fan Threatens John Dumelo On Instagram by mzilakazi(m): 2:47pm On Apr 22, 2015 |
Dragonking: The situation of South Africa was grossly mistaken as xenophobia. It does not relate to xenophobia by any depth or dimension. It is the true reflection of the failures of Africa in general, some heads of states who failed to deliver for their own people and instead dole out their crisis to South Africa. I see the situation as a complete failure of AU and UN in particular. The situation of foreigners in SA is so bad that many foreigners do not have jobs and as result have been lured to commit crime, embark on prostitution and even selling drugs. South Africa is no longer as rosy as it was in monetary terms to address the situation. Africans in general know that every child born in South Africa qualifies for grants and shelter and now they all flock to SAY because for that. Economic conditions is what drives them to compete with South Africans for limited resources and eventually suffer this xenophobic attacks. Let Africa unite and help South Africa financially to provide for foreigners needs. Let them stop criticising South Africa for the problems that they created. |
Re: South African Fan Threatens John Dumelo On Instagram by lezz(m): 2:54pm On Apr 22, 2015 |
PunkyOh:the bush, camps and prison he used was a figurative speech which was meant to reflect soweto and the entire black neighbour hood of informal education and mass iliteracy. of course there were pockets of blacks who went to school by scholarship from african countries. i repeat , those number doesnt change the impression. SA blacks are still behind even today(35%) .. the xenophobic savagery is a telling example have you trended today? have you raised your voice against xenophobia today? #XENOPHOBICSA |
Re: South African Fan Threatens John Dumelo On Instagram by tunderino(m): 3:02pm On Apr 22, 2015 |
@ Mzilakazi Ghana Must go in Nigeria was a disguise by a corrupt government to cover its tracks. But Ghana has also expelled Nigerians from its country before then In the 1970s during Nigeria’s oil boom, African migrants were welcomed in Nigeria. They provided cheap labor to Nigeria for a fast expanding economy that Nigerian labor market was not prepared to serve. A lot of the workers who came were from Ghana. They were teachers and tailors. They were professors and printers. To a large extent, they fit well into the Nigerian cultural space. As the oil boom turned into gloom in early 1983, Nigerian government started to look for the people to blame. Corruption, mismanagement of resources, and the drop in oil price were no longer the cause of the gloom. The Chadians we welcomed in the Northern Nigeria killed series of Nigerian students like we have boko haram today on same borders. This was what sparked a riot. [/b]Ghanaian immigrants were an easy target. And the Nigerian government grabbed it. The Nigerian government passed an Expulsion Order that forced over 700,000 Ghanaians to leave Nigeria in less than 30 days. [b]Of course, Nigeria’s action did not come out of nowhere. In 1969, Ghana that had been home to pan-Africans since the days of Kwame Nkrumah began to face economic hardship. The government of the day decided to expel Africans, many of whom were Nigerians. The government had ready-made answers as to why they were doing so. One common reason was the charge that migrants, especially Nigerians, were the cause of an increase in crime in Ghana. You can hear the echo of that in today’s Ghana. It will sound louder if Ghana’s economy goes south. You can also start by deporting Nigerians but When e retaliate in another way; the whole world will plead for you. Then you would have made an enemy of all your neighbours. |
Re: South African Fan Threatens John Dumelo On Instagram by Dragonking: 3:03pm On Apr 22, 2015 |
mzilakazi: That is xenophobia whether you like it or not. The picture below is what should be termed as criminality which is as a result of xenophobia.
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Re: South African Fan Threatens John Dumelo On Instagram by mzilakazi(m): 3:07pm On Apr 22, 2015 |
lezz: I am directly criticising Mugabe because he is a contributing factor to the socioeconomic problems of South Africa. Millions of Zimbabweans were pushed to South Africa by Mugabe's security forces, some without blankets or food. I have already lashed out on people who perpetrate xenophobic attacks in South Africa. Apparently, the Zulu king complained about the city which he once known as the cleanest in South Africa in KwaZulu Natal, which has now turned into garbage bin by illegal immigrants. However, there is a sense into that, because every city in South Africa has become dirty since the arrival of millions of illegal foreigners. Still, that did not grant people the right to loot and assault foreigners. Foreigners might be successful in doing business et al, but they have a serious problem in keeping the cities clean. They dump everywhere and have changed the whole cities into jungles. Look at Hillbrow, which was once known to be the beautiful place in Johannesburg. As current only few South Africans live there and the rest are foreigners. The place is so dirty such that it looks scary to walk about. It is now renamed Lagos of South Africa. If only foreigners can learn how to maintain the buildings of flats they occupy in the cities of South Africa. 2 Likes |
Re: South African Fan Threatens John Dumelo On Instagram by mzilakazi(m): 3:13pm On Apr 22, 2015 |
tunderino: All I am saying is that, why is it that everyone is screaming at South Africa, as if they have never done so in the past. Remember, what the bible said about accusing other people of evil as well as removing the speck that clogs on another's eye. |
Re: South African Fan Threatens John Dumelo On Instagram by PunkyOh(f): 3:15pm On Apr 22, 2015 |
lezz: Playing bait & switch I see. Believe whatever you wanna believe, man. |
Re: South African Fan Threatens John Dumelo On Instagram by mzilakazi(m): 3:18pm On Apr 22, 2015 |
Dragonking: Yes, that of the pictures you pasted is xenophobia in the wrong sense. However, that of the killing of Sithole is criminal act since it involves only four people who had the scuffle with Sithole over cigarettes. |
Re: South African Fan Threatens John Dumelo On Instagram by mzilakazi(m): 3:26pm On Apr 22, 2015 |
lezz: South Africa has higher literacy than Nigeria and had always been ahead of it throughout the years of apartheid. South Africa if I am not mistaken is the third most educated nation in Africa, Zimbabwe being on number one spot. South African schools were never built after 1994, many of them were inherited from apartheid regime and remain their legacy. I interact with many people who were in exile and many of them told me that South African townships and schools even under apartheid were seen as more developed than all sub Saharan countries. They told me that they still remained remained disappointed that most of those countries even when they achieved independence in the early 1960's they still looked like bushes with small or no developments at all. 2 Likes |
Re: South African Fan Threatens John Dumelo On Instagram by lezz(m): 3:35pm On Apr 22, 2015 |
mzilakazi:Before apartheid, SOWETO used to be the slum of africa. well not anymore, since the ANC made sure they change and save face. Now after independence, Khayelitsha, takes that position as the 2nd biggest slum in africa. South africa is estimated to house about 2 million foreigners according to the BBC. and if you say they are the cause of south africa's slums, i say that's being arogant and giving a dog a bad name in order to hang it. SA and slums dont ever part company, not before 1994 and not after. as a matter of fact, the dutch walled and fenced the city off kleinfontein to keep ZULUS and BANTUS off till this very day. not even a black south african police can venture inside that gated city of Kleinfontein. and as XHOSA and TSWANA blacks are moving into jburg, whites are scampering into Sandton suburb. There are lots of west africans and asians in nigeria and we dont aportion blame to them. we take responsibility when things go wrong. please trend still #XENOPHOBICSA |
Re: South African Fan Threatens John Dumelo On Instagram by lezz(m): 3:42pm On Apr 22, 2015 |
mzilakazi:That doctored report by ANC is misleading,my boy. they dont reflect the reality on ground. let me ask you? did south african government not reduce pass mark to 30% ? lol. Your answer will judge for you. mind you the definition of literacy varies and is transcient. but answer the question.. |
Re: South African Fan Threatens John Dumelo On Instagram by mzilakazi(m): 3:42pm On Apr 22, 2015 |
lezz: That's a lie, even during apartheid Soweto was never a slum, not at all. South Africa built free houses from the dark ages of apartheid. The free housing scheme did not started with ANC, even the bad Boers built millions of free houses to citizens of SOUTH AFRICA. slums were not allowed then, because there was a forceful removal policy where you would see bulldozers ravaging the shanties of people. Not even a single person would have tried it, not at all. 1 Like |
Re: South African Fan Threatens John Dumelo On Instagram by mzilakazi(m): 3:48pm On Apr 22, 2015 |
lezz: ANC does not do stats, there are credible international organizations which as entrusted to do so. Even during apartheid when ANC was not in power, SA had higher literacy. It boasted the only advanced all black university in Africa then which educated Mandela and Mugabe. Mugabe is the product of South Africa's Bantu education. |
Re: South African Fan Threatens John Dumelo On Instagram by lezz(m): 3:49pm On Apr 22, 2015 |
mzilakazi:point us to a xenophobic attack in africa.. |
Re: South African Fan Threatens John Dumelo On Instagram by Dragonking: 3:53pm On Apr 22, 2015 |
mzilakazi: Bro, admit and stop all these ignorant merry go rounds. Mistakes are always forgivable if one has the courage to admit them---Bruce Lee |
Re: South African Fan Threatens John Dumelo On Instagram by mzilakazi(m): 3:55pm On Apr 22, 2015 |
lezz: There had been lot of grievous incidence in Africa where Africans butchered on other Africans for competition of resources, yet South Africa had never lashed out on anyone or even caused an uproar for the closure of consulates. We remained supportive throughout. Now, many African countries after having failed on their part to give jobs to their people, some even tortured them and kick them out of their borders, today have big months to cry xenophobia. 1 Like |
Re: South African Fan Threatens John Dumelo On Instagram by mzilakazi(m): 4:01pm On Apr 22, 2015 |
Dragonking: I told you that the problem translate to Africa as a whole. Let Africa give South Africa money to help better the lives of foreigners in South Africa. Now you find South Africa fighting the battle alone out of the meagre budget they have in hand. They give child grants, refugee grants and offer free education, yet Africa is folding their arms knowing that whole population of 8 million illegal foreigners is up for South Africa to give support. What a shame Africa!!! |
Re: South African Fan Threatens John Dumelo On Instagram by lezz(m): 4:04pm On Apr 22, 2015 |
mzilakazi post=3299dut4570:you mean segregated university? official repport today says black SA literacy level rate is 34/35%. Today SA government has reduced pass mark to 30% to reflect the ever rising decay in all your institutions from education to health,to infrastructure. you are living under the anglo-dutch hype. #XENOPHOBICSA |
Re: South African Fan Threatens John Dumelo On Instagram by Dragonking: 4:13pm On Apr 22, 2015 |
mzilakazi: What a shame South Africa!!! |
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