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Re: FG Drags NASS To Supreme Court by nortcentrallord(m): 11:37am On Apr 23, 2015
modath:

So Jonathan expects the court to adjudicate in this case when we know quite well he has zero regard for the judical process. Case in point.

--Justice Ayo Salami's case
--Deployment of troops for elections


Do you even know what the amendment is all about? Get some knowledge before pointing accusing fingers. Haba! Elections are over for christsake. Grow above hate and partisanship.

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Re: FG Drags NASS To Supreme Court by Nobody: 11:38am On Apr 23, 2015
All we want is the implementation of the Confab report cos this our current military constitution is doing more damage than good to our democracy... it gave the executive arm so much power that they now abuse it..

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Re: FG Drags NASS To Supreme Court by Bigdreams(m): 11:39am On Apr 23, 2015
I hope this is being in order to lay down good antecedents.

Let's see how the story unfolds in days to come.



Re: FG Drags NASS To Supreme Court by Beface(m): 11:41am On Apr 23, 2015
criminalmindz:
THE MILITARY NEEDS TO COME BACK AND CLEAN UP NIGERIA. I SUPPORT ANY MILITARY INTERVENTION , AS LONG AS NO BE HAUSA OR SLAVE TO THE HAUSA'S
I guess you are not a student of history. Pls try to study your environment very well you will understand. The Military are not in charge yet see the way they are intimidating those that cross their parts. When they come into power the first thing is to suspend the chapter 4 of the nigeria constitution which is your right!

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Re: FG Drags NASS To Supreme Court by dhardline(m): 11:41am On Apr 23, 2015
Wow its happening so soon....singing " we're going going back back to 1999" grin grin

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Re: FG Drags NASS To Supreme Court by Nellypy: 11:41am On Apr 23, 2015
Y wouldn't it affect him u want ur fada to go home with life pension. See ur mouth

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Re: FG Drags NASS To Supreme Court by buchilino(m): 11:42am On Apr 23, 2015
eCollynzo:
Reducing the power of the president can only affect me positively.

MAYBE OR MAYBE NOT. TIME WILL TELL

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Re: FG Drags NASS To Supreme Court by nortcentrallord(m): 11:43am On Apr 23, 2015
Rilwayne001:
Mumu FG.



[quote author=sharks776 post=33017970]The Members of the National Assembly are TOO GREEDY!

Imagine them Proposing a law to give them Full immunity and life time pension after just 4 years of work ( 6 months in the case of Patricia Ete) when thousands of aged people are roaming the street crying for their unpaid pensions after given their life time (better years) to the service of this country.


Have you gotten some knowledge? Now who is the Mumu, the FG or you who don't even know what is happening and already taking sides? undecided

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Re: FG Drags NASS To Supreme Court by Nobody: 11:45am On Apr 23, 2015
We have the most irresponsible legislative arm in the world.

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Re: FG Drags NASS To Supreme Court by shino62: 11:50am On Apr 23, 2015
angry angry angry ah! ah! why now? FG and NASS. I smell a rat, since when where these amendments passed by nass that the FG is just refuting. Me think certain assumptions have backfired which necessitates the FG to now want to call it off. can somebody dissect the provisions of these sections for me pls.

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Re: FG Drags NASS To Supreme Court by nortcentrallord(m): 11:51am On Apr 23, 2015
eCollynzo:
Jonathan fighting to please Buhari or what?
I don't see how that amendment affects him.


I don't believe he is fighting to please any one. He is still the president until may 29nth. Elections are over and the earlier we work for the development of our nation, the better for all of us rather than nurture old wounds. I believe it is a growth in Nigerian democracy. Most people will naturally expect GEJ's administration to leave stumbling blocks for the incoming administration but the earlier we realize that the western world are trying to pitch us against each other to submerge our growth, the better for us.

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Re: FG Drags NASS To Supreme Court by Independa: 11:53am On Apr 23, 2015
Greedy men always thinking of themselves first, and how to perpetuate evil like former senators getting ministerial positions without screening. U see while I like Jona, he doesn't sign any how. If not our economy would have been worse, with the old plan of France, no wonder their nationals are part of Bokoharam. That man may be selfish and may have abused power as many who were there, but he doesn't perpetuate it. Immegine these men desiring him to sign that they can pass a bill into law without the consent of the President. That house is the seat of corruption.

But wait, with all these section this, paragraph that, what will people like T A. do if they get there. U see why I want APGA to get back mandate from him. Let them follow it to later

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Re: FG Drags NASS To Supreme Court by colormebad(m): 11:54am On Apr 23, 2015
eCollynzo:
Jonathan fighting to please Buhari or what?
I don't see how that amendment affects him.


Yes, its does affects Him... The National Conffab Report Must Be Implimented, and Therein Lies The New Constitution !

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Re: FG Drags NASS To Supreme Court by jpphilips(m): 11:56am On Apr 23, 2015
zicoraads:
This is serious. I don't get it, what went wrong?
It beats me that the FG was already aware of all the processes or the amendments that were being made to the 1999 constitution, why didn't they lobby to keep certain aspects they were not comfortable with out?

Why spend so much on this exercise only to want to throw everything away?

There is more to this than meets the eye.

I would really like to know what is contained in the sections that is getting the GEJ led FG mad.


Lalasticlala...do your thang grin

The election changed everything, most of the NASS members now are going and the ones who retained their seats may not retain their positions, the president too is going so it is a legislature and Executive in outgoing mode with absolutely nothing to lose.
However, if you study the amendments in details, you will see the hands of David Mark written all over it, it is a ploy to strip the presidency of its powers and hand it over to the Legislators whom we know are thieves, remember, the presidency has gone to opposition so they want to render him useless.

What I don't understand is why Jonathan is fighting for Buhari? has a deal been made to evade prosecution? Is jonathan still nursing another presidential ambition? time will tell.

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Re: FG Drags NASS To Supreme Court by NobleG1(m): 11:56am On Apr 23, 2015
What the hell is the alteration?

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Re: FG Drags NASS To Supreme Court by nortcentrallord(m): 11:58am On Apr 23, 2015
49cents:


Can the APC government. Drag an APC doniminated NASS to court


My brother, you don't reply a fool. Some people still haven't accepted the elections are over and it is time to work. Time for promises has gone. It is just now the reality that stares
Now.
Re: FG Drags NASS To Supreme Court by passilla(m): 11:59am On Apr 23, 2015
na grammar una d speak here
Re: FG Drags NASS To Supreme Court by adconline(m): 12:08pm On Apr 23, 2015
Naija Journalism Why not educate their audience what would be the reason for those amendments. What were the amendments for?
Re: FG Drags NASS To Supreme Court by Ezenwa11(m): 12:22pm On Apr 23, 2015
soe:
Something tells me that Tinubu is remotely controlling GEJ these days.... Cos there are so many things he is doing to please GMB dese days. Too much for soft landing
what do you mean by that? Is Buhari going to rule for life? If Buhari goes after the past rulers, when he steps down another president will pursue him too. Do you want to tell me that Buhari will not make mistakes during his first 4 years? Let's commend president Jonathan for this bold step he has taken again.
Re: FG Drags NASS To Supreme Court by nduchucks: 12:24pm On Apr 23, 2015
The FG has a point, all of the provisions which require 80% majority vote which were included with less than the said four-fifth approval, will be rendered unconstitutional and ultimatelly struck down - but I am not sure that this is the time for that.

If I were a betting person, I'd bet that the supreme court will not make a ruling on this and toss the case out. The courts have no business telling NASS how to do their jobs, besides, the Amendments have not yet been sent to the states for approval, so NASS still has time to revisit the amendments.

As I told many people, including Mr. jpphilips, the President cannot veto amendments to the constitution, hence he decided to go to court to force NASS to remove certain provision early in the game.

Shame on NASS for including these 419 provisions, and shame on GEJ for taking NASS to court. He could have simply expresssed his concerns and let NASS have a do over on the provisions in question. As it stands, The APC NASS, with President Buhari and the APC controlled states, will decide what provisions are amendeded. David Mark & GEJ, both rougues are wasting their time.

There is more to this than meets the eyes and the real truth will come out soon enough.

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Re: FG Drags NASS To Supreme Court by nortcentrallord(m): 12:27pm On Apr 23, 2015
jpphilips:


The election changed everything, most of the NASS members now are going and the ones who retained their seats may not retain their positions, the president too is going so it is a legislature and Executive in outgoing mode with absolutely nothing to lose.
However, if you study the amendments in details, you will see the hands of David Mark written all over it, it is a ploy to strip the presidency of its powers and hand it over to the Legislators whom we know are thieves, remember, the presidency has gone to opposition so they want to render him useless.

What I don't understand is why Jonathan is fighting for Buhari? has a deal been made to evade prosecution? Is jonathan still nursing another presidential ambition? time will tell.

Good analysis. But if truly GEJ is scared of prosecution, don't you think it will pay him more to see it to the finish that the president's power is drastically made useless just like you said? Well, like you rightly said time will tell.
Re: FG Drags NASS To Supreme Court by nortcentrallord(m): 12:28pm On Apr 23, 2015
jpphilips:


The election changed everything, most of the NASS members now are going and the ones who retained their seats may not retain their positions, the president too is going so it is a legislature and Executive in outgoing mode with absolutely nothing to lose.
However, if you study the amendments in details, you will see the hands of David Mark written all over it, it is a ploy to strip the presidency of its powers and hand it over to the Legislators whom we know are thieves, remember, the presidency has gone to opposition so they want to render him useless.

What I don't understand is why Jonathan is fighting for Buhari? has a deal been made to evade prosecution? Is jonathan still nursing another presidential ambition? time will tell.

Good analysis. But if truly GEJ is scared of prosecution, don't you think it will pay him more to see it to the finish that the president's power is drastically made useless just like you said? but I doubt if truly has a presidential ambition ever again but I don't trust politicians. Well, like you rightly said time will tell.
Re: FG Drags NASS To Supreme Court by help3852: 12:30pm On Apr 23, 2015
Ozigbondu:
Greedy lawmakers looking for life time pension nice one from FG
tomorrow they say that Gej is a bad man

NobleG1:
What the hell is the alteration?
The law makers are giving themselves pension.
Imaging after squandering 25% Of our budget yearly. Gej refused to sign the bill. They still went on to pass it.

Nigerians should rise up and the Labour unions,

It is a pity, those benefitting from this directly or indirectly will not say anything.

GEJ IS GOING, HE SHOULD NOT BE AFRAID TO COME OUT IN THE PUBLIC AND EXPLAIN TO THE MASSES WHAT THE LAWMAKERS HAVE DONE.
Re: FG Drags NASS To Supreme Court by harveyspec: 12:33pm On Apr 23, 2015
Abuja – The House of Representatives on
Wednesday in Abuja voted to effect 71 amendments to sections of the 1999 constitution. The lawmakers also backed the adoption of referendum for state creation.

They, however, rejected the amendment of Section 9 to allow for a referendum in determining the fate of the National Conference recommendations. Among the 261 house members who participated in the process, 252 members voted in favour of the amendments, eight voted against and one abstained. A two-third vote (240 of the 360-members) is required
to amend the constitution.

The report will be forwarded to the 36 state Houses of Assembly for their concurrence. The 71 amendments approved by the lower house
border on legislative immunity, local government autonomy, state creation, indigeneship and citizenship.

Some others are independent candidacy in elections, budgetary process, life pension for National Assembly heads and role for traditional rulers.

An alteration of Section 7 among others, stops revenue allocation from the Federation Account to local governments that are not democratically elected.

They also approved the dissolution of local government administrations at the expiration of four years commencing from the date the members of councils were sworn in. While altering Section 59, the lawmakers also voted to bypass the president if he failed to sign a bill presented to him within 30 days. “Within seven days, the President of the Senate shall
convene a joint sitting of the National Assembly to reconsider the bill. “And if passed by two-thirds majority of members of both Houses at such joint sitting, the Bill shall become law and the assent of the President shall not be required,” the conference report reads.

In other constitution amendments, house members also approved independent candidacy in elections in Nigeria. A new amendment makes it mandatory for the president to address a joint meeting of the National Assembly once a year.

The office of the Auditor-General of the Federation, Nigerian Police, Revenue Mobilization Allocation and Fiscal Commission, National Security Agencies have
now been place on a firstline charge from Nigeria’s Consolidated Revenue Account.

House members equally approved life pension for the President and Deputy President of theSenate as well as Speaker and Deputy Speaker of the House of Representatives. The life pension would be paid only if he/she was not
impeached from office.

An alteration of Section 241 which inserts a new
subsection (2A) bars Nigerian courts or tribunals from staying any proceeding on account of an interlocutory appeal. House members also voted to include seven items to the concurrent legislative list, some of which are agriculture, railways and pensions. (NAN)

www.vanguardngr.com/2014/10/reps-approve-71-amendments-nigerian-constitution/
Re: FG Drags NASS To Supreme Court by Laid2001: 12:34pm On Apr 23, 2015
Can this be made simplar for us to know the specifics of what proposal is being rejected and all what have you!!

It also seems these Assembly men does not even understand the constitution they are trying to amend!

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Re: FG Drags NASS To Supreme Court by help3852: 12:36pm On Apr 23, 2015
jpphilips:


The election changed everything, most of the NASS members now are going and the ones who retained their seats may not retain their positions, the president too is going so it is a legislature and Executive in outgoing mode with absolutely nothing to lose.
However, if you study the amendments in details, you will see the hands of David Mark written all over it, it is a ploy to strip the presidency of its powers and hand it over to the Legislators whom we know are thieves, remember, the presidency has gone to opposition so they want to render him useless.

What I don't understand is why Jonathan is fighting for Buhari? has a deal been made to evade prosecution? Is jonathan still nursing another presidential ambition? time will tell.

ITS A PITY YOU ARE BRINGING UP CONSIPRACY THEORIES.

ARE YOU AWARE THAT THE MONEY THE LAWMAKERS WILL BE TAKING HOME IS YOUR MONEY.
25% OF OUR BUDGET IS ALREADY GIVEN TO THEM YEARLY, HENCE NIGERIA FINDS IT DIFFICULT TO DEVELOP IN TERMS OF CAPITAL EXPENDITURES, AND NOW THEY ARE GOING HOME WITH LIFE-PENSION PLAN

and all you could come up with is that Gej is fighting for Buhari. Is the money Buhari's money or your money??

brothers THINK!!

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Re: FG Drags NASS To Supreme Court by tammie24: 12:42pm On Apr 23, 2015
modath:

So Jonathan expects the court to adjudicate in this case when we know quite well he has zero regard for the judical process. Case in point.

--Justice Ayo Salami's case
--Deployment of troops for elections

dragging them to court
Is it for his own good or ours??

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Re: FG Drags NASS To Supreme Court by galadima77(m): 12:59pm On Apr 23, 2015
I have never been comfortable with David Mark's leadership style in the upper chamber. he's ever too corrupt.
Re: FG Drags NASS To Supreme Court by jpphilips(m): 1:31pm On Apr 23, 2015
criminalmindz:
THE MILITARY NEEDS TO COME BACK AND CLEAN UP NIGERIA. I SUPPORT ANY MILITARY INTERVENTION , AS LONG AS NO BE HAUSA OR SLAVE TO THE HAUSA'S

Well, I wish you said it on 29th May 2011
Re: FG Drags NASS To Supreme Court by jpphilips(m): 1:34pm On Apr 23, 2015
help3852:


ITS A PITY YOU ARE BRINGING UP CONSIPRACY THEORIES.

ARE YOU AWARE THAT THE MONEY THE LAWMAKERS WILL BE TAKING HOME IS YOUR MONEY.
25% OF OUR BUDGET IS ALREADY GIVEN TO THEM YEARLY, HENCE NIGERIA FINDS IT DIFFICULT TO DEVELOP IN TERMS OF CAPITAL EXPENDITURES, AND NOW THEY ARE GOING HOME WITH LIFE-PENSION PLAN

and all you could come up with is that Gej is fighting for Buhari. Is the money Buhari's money or your money??

brothers THINK!!

Stop quoting my post if you have fiber in your brain, NASS has been gulping over 25% of our national budget for 8yrs why did Jonathan not go to court?
you think this is about life pension? have you read the amendments? buffalo!!
the thieves are stripping the president of its powers such that Attorney general will be separated from the minister of justice, where does that leave the president?
Re: FG Drags NASS To Supreme Court by help3852: 1:39pm On Apr 23, 2015
jpphilips:


Stop quoting my post if you have fiber in your brain, NASS gulped over 25% of our national budget for 4yrs why did Jonathan not go to court?
you think this is about life pension? have you read the amendments? buffalo!!
I don't blame you.

APC - always bitter, can't drive a pt without abuse, i pity your wife, children and generation.

With the way you are going, there are already doomed if you don't CHANGE
Re: FG Drags NASS To Supreme Court by jpphilips(m): 1:40pm On Apr 23, 2015
nduchucks:
The FG has a point, all of the provisions which require 80% majority vote which were included with less than the said four-fifth approval, will be rendered unconstitutional and ultimatelly struck down - but I am not sure that this is the time for that.

If I were a betting person, I'd bet that the supreme court will not make a ruling on this and toss the case out. The courts have no business telling NASS how to do their jobs, besides, the Amendments have not yet been sent to the states for approval, so NASS still has time to revisit the amendments.

As I told many people, including Mr. jpphilips, the President cannot veto amendments to the constitution, hence he decided to go to court to force NASS to remove certain provision early in the game.

Shame on NASS for including these 419 provisions, and shame on GEJ for taking NASS to court. He could have simply expresssed his concerns and let NASS have a do over on the provisions in question. As it stands, The APC NASS, with President Buhari and the APC controlled states, will decide what povisions are amendeded. David Mark & GEJ, both rougues are wasting their time.

There is more to this than meets the eyes and the real truth will come out soon enough.


I told you that the constitution does not expressly recommend the provisions that limit the presidential veto, NASS is right, Jonathan is right, I asked you to show me what you said in the constitution and you ran away.
Jonathan can veto it but NASS can pass it anyways!!, only the court can hold their c0cks!!

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