Shadowbean:


Are you saying Hazard didn't perform for Belgium because they were an inexperienced team? If so look at Costa Rica. Neymar will always beat Hazard on the National stage. Right now Neymar has golden ball for confederation cup and Bronze booth for 2014 while hazard has nothing.

if u wil go a few pages back maybe u'l understand better.... y wunt neymar beat hazard on d national stage...wat do u expect from a brazil vs belgium matchup...wud u compare belgium with germany? ....
Anyway,i didnt say hazard didnt do wel cuz twas d wia inexperience ...i only said u can judge him based on one international tourney...d 1st hes had.... messi's 1st wasnt great either

A40:

Can you imagine the abirun! Belgium was inexperienced but the 2010 German team was a perfect blend of youth and experience? The bloody ekwensu is still giving pathetic excuses

u r a disappointment to urself ...i'l NOT talk shiit on dz matter again wid u...go do urself!!!

KingTom:
The argument don finish?

e still continue o, just mind d kind people wey u go quote cos guys dey vex gan....

jimmy4x:


e still continue o, just mind d kind people wey u go quote cos guys dey vex gan....

lol

oprajo:

did you see iniesta assist for him against psg game. yes neymar is a good player but you can't say because he scored against psg means he is better than hazard. hazard doesn’t have a player like messi and iniesta and yet he has been consitent scoring important goals for Chelsea.
do you know that messi hasnt been effective against Chelsea ? so going by your logic he isn't better than Ronaldo or Rooney that had scored against Chelsea? neymar plays alongside quality players they compliment his ability. hazard works alone .it is this season that fabregas came that he is helping hazard with creativity .
outside goals neymar doesn’t do anything better than hazard. he scores more goals because of the formation and talent around him. Just imagine hazard playing with messi and iniesta.

Who does Neymar have in his Brazil team? Oscar, william..... the same people Hazard has in chelsea, yet Neymar is like the best player when it comes to Country football!
Hazard is shiit when it comes to playing against the big boys in Europe, and thats where Neymar excels better!

Why do people judge players with stats and goals nowadays?... I guess Messi and Ronaldo must have set a ridiculous high standard on which players are judged... Heck Zinedine Zidane was not even a top goal scorer and he still won the Ballon D'or and also Andres Iniesta is also not a consistent goal scorer but was still considered one of d top three ballers of is era... Eden Hazard is a better all round footballer than Neymar but Neymar is a better goal scorer, more flashy player and a bit more decisive in the final third... Since people tend to judge players on goals nowadays and since goals is what make you win games Neymar will always be viewed as the better player...

dicksj93:
no no no...dnt use d words "dip in form" here...d d found it tough...Dats it!!!

Ozil was a super regular in Germany when he was in Madrid and he was playing his prefered position for club and country now starting is not guaranteed even IG he starts he is d first in line to be substituted he has experienced a dip in form
Falcao is an example of someone who might be underperforming because of d change in club because he is banging d goals in for his country

oprajo:
They way people compare players on nairaland is very amazing . I have read some peoples comments and they say neymar dribbles better than hazard? on what ground do you make that kind of judgement? There is alot of difference between being skillful and knowing how to dribble. Ronaldo is more skillful than messi but messi dribbles better than Ronaldo because not every dribbling involves skill. THERE IS WHAT IS CALLED TOUCH DRIBBLE. Compare hazard stats with neymar stats and see who is better.

STATS
GAMES PLAYED IN LA LIGA
NEYMAR ..............27
GAMES PLAYED IN PRIMIER LEAGUE
HAZARD ..............32

GOALS
NEYMAR. ........ 18
HAZARD. .........13

ASSISTS
NEYMAR. .......5
HAZARD. .......8

YELLOW CARDS
NEYMAR. .......5
HAZARD. ........2

MAN OF MATCH
NEYMAR. ........1
HAZARD. .......12

TOTAL CHANCES CREATED
NEYMAR. .......39
HAZARD. .........87

AVERAGE PASS ACCURACY
NEYMAR. .........80%
HAZARD. ........87%

SHOTS ACCURACY
NEYMAR. ......... 61%
HAZARD. ........60%

in the whole of Europe it's only messi that has completed more dribbles than hazard . While hazard has more successful take ons than messi.
as of March messi has 258 successful dribbles while hazard has 254 . neymar wasn't even in the top ten. The third being firmino being 244.

more stats coming up

good one bro..all these kids think its only goal that determine a player, they don't check over all play...messi make the move and decisive pass for neymar to score one on one goal while hazard take that responsibility in chelsea, that's creating chances for other players to score..go watch all chelsea games this season, whenever costa is not playing hazard always score most of the time.

hensben:
good one bro..all these kids think its only goal that determine a player, they don't check over all play...messi make the move and decisive pass for neymar to score one on one goal while hazard take that responsibility in chelsea, that's creating chances for other players to score..go watch all chelsea games this season, whenever costa is not playing hazard always score most of the time.

No mind dem jare, den no go gree if u like talk from tomorrow till next year, den no go gree, Hazard is shiit to them
Na we know wetin Hazard dey do for our team nd we are okay with him nd not complaining.
See Man of the match stats, Hazard 12, Neymar na just one....e dey easy to win MOTM 12 times??

jimmy4x:

No mind dem jare, den no go gree if u like talk from tomorrow till next year, den no go gree, Hazard is shiit to them
Na we know wetin Hazard dey do for our team nd we are okay with him nd not complaining.
See Man of the match stats, Hazard 12, Neymar na just one....e dey easy to win MOTM 12 times??

make them swap neymar and hazard, neymar wouldn't do jack in mourhino formatiom whereas, hazard will do wonder with messi, iniesta by his side and also barca formation will even make things easier for him. Hazard has all round play while neymar is all about tap in goals from messi, stylish and skills(most times, unsuccessful).
The team play for neymar at barca while hazard play for the team in chelsea.

hensben:
make them swap neymar and hazard, neymar wouldn't do jack in mourhino formatiom whereas, hazard will do wonder with messi, iniesta by his side and also barca formation will even make things easier for him. Hazard has all round play while neymar is all about tap in goals from messi, stylish and skills(most times, unsuccessful).
The team play for neymar at barca while hazard play for the team in chelsea.

I guess you know more than barca ex sport director on why they broke the bank for Neymar instead of hazard

Neymar also plays alongside Oscar and William in Brazil team, yet he still one of the best country football player!

homesteady:


I guess you know more than barca ex sport director on why they broke the bank for Neymar instead of hazard

Neymar also plays alongside Oscar and William in Brazil team, yet he still one of the best country football player!

brazil is brazil, forget all those talk, they like to hold the ball for too long before they pass that's the reason most of them struggle in epl but you can't take their quality away from them mostly, when they are putting on that yellow jersey.
Man of the match this season;
Hazard 12
Neymar 1.
If neymar should dare come to epl a big flop he will become with that him shakara and dolphine style of play, ask robinho, cr7 about epl if I'm lying whereas, hazard will just be strolling past those la liga defense.
Yeah hazard is/was already in chelsea while neymar was still in brazil pampered and hyped by pele and co.
Barca is aware chelsea can't let one of their best player go considering they just signed him a season ago then..that ur first paragraph nor follow.

oprajo:
They way people compare players on nairaland is very amazing . I have read some peoples comments and they say neymar dribbles better than hazard? on what ground do you make that kind of judgement? There is alot of difference between being skillful and knowing how to dribble. Ronaldo is more skillful than messi but messi dribbles better than Ronaldo because not every dribbling involves skill. THERE IS WHAT IS CALLED TOUCH DRIBBLE. Compare hazard stats with neymar stats and see who is better.

STATS
GAMES PLAYED IN LA LIGA
NEYMAR ..............27
GAMES PLAYED IN PRIMIER LEAGUE
HAZARD ..............32

GOALS
NEYMAR. ........ 18
HAZARD. .........13

ASSISTS
NEYMAR. .......5
HAZARD. .......8

YELLOW CARDS
NEYMAR. .......5
HAZARD. ........2

MAN OF MATCH
NEYMAR. ........1
HAZARD. .......12

TOTAL CHANCES CREATED
NEYMAR. .......39
HAZARD. .........87

AVERAGE PASS ACCURACY
NEYMAR. .........80%
HAZARD. ........87%

SHOTS ACCURACY
NEYMAR. ......... 61%
HAZARD. ........60%

in the whole of Europe it's only messi that has completed more dribbles than hazard . While hazard has more successful take ons than messi.
as of March messi has 258 successful dribbles while hazard has 254 . neymar wasn't even in the top ten. The third being firmino being 244.

more stats coming up

Some of your stats are flawed. If you look at Neymar and Hazard closely you will realize their roles in respective teams is different. Chelsea is built around Hazard while Barca is built around Messi so some arguments are subjective.

The best way to compare them imho is Brazil's Neymar and Chelsea's Hazard.

Going by that, you will know who truly is better.

jimmy4x:

Iniesta was playing as a winger b4 d arrival of Neymar, he had to withdraw to the middle to accommodate Neymar, Isco is an attacking midfielder who switches position with Ronaldo, Rodriguez, even Benzema goes to the wing at tyms to allow Ronaldo operate as a striker/forward/false-nine
I wasn't wrong afterall.
Neymar is a winger/Forward.....same as Ronaldo and Messi until recently when Messi started playing as a playmaker.....Na Suarez nd Neymar dey score pass Messi now unlike When Messi dey always bang in goals, den Iniesta, Fabregas and Pedro/Sanchez were behind him or he'll switch position with Sanchez, dt was when Messi was normally referred to as a False-nine.
Can u ever call Hazard, iniesta, Ribery a false-nine...never!!!!
Hazard, Robben, Ribery and Iniesta are all wingers/attacking midfielder.
Spot the difference.

Iniesta isn't a winger and has never been a winger. Yes, he has played there a couple of times but it ends there at the end of the match

ollah1:



Some of your stats is flawed. If you look are Neymar and Hazard closely you will realize their roles in respective teams is different. Chelsea is built around Hazard while Barca is built around Messi so some arguments are subjective.

The best way to compare them imho is Brazil's Neymar and Chelsea's Hazard.

Going by that, you will know who truly is better.

statistics is statistics. which of the stats is flawed or they add stats to people which they don't have? if you like choose the stats that you think is flawed lets compare it here? you didn't mention the free food that messi gives neymar. Haven't you see teams that buit their team around a player and he flopped? the team built around hazard puts pressure on him while neymar has no pressure him that's why he can joke on the pitch like trying to go and fight but you can't see messi doing that because the pressure is on him to deliver.
What does neymar for Brazil and hazard for Chelsea comparison?
comparison is done with both clubs and countries. its in clubs that you see the real player because you are playing week in week out.
Don't bring the excuse of team being built around Messi. That should make him better because he is playing without pressure . if Barcelona loses the blame will be on messi . there are stats that constant any where. a good dribbler is a good dribbler any where and time. a good passer is a good passer. neymar wouldn't dribble more than hazard if he where playing in premier league.

homesteady:

Who does Neymar have in his Brazil team? Oscar, william..... the same people Hazard has in chelsea, yet Neymar is like the best player when it comes to Country football!
Hazard is shiit when it comes to playing against the big boys in Europe, and thats where Neymar excels better!

it's still oscar and willian that neymar has for Brazil. in Brazil how many times do they play international competitions or friendlies? NEYMAR is playing very very well for Brazil no doubt but its at club level you know a player. in the league you are playing week in week out against teamsthat know your style of play and that requires consistence. For Barcelona he plays with messi and iniesta week in week out but for Brazil he plays with oscar and willian once in a while. Eden Hazard plays with this same players week in week out and has been consitent this season. Did you watch hazard game against Bayern Munich in the supercup ? did you see his goal? hazard has scored against all the tough teams he has played against except Atletico madrid. saying neymar excells better than hazard because he scored against tough teams is very faulty . scoring in a game doesn’t mean you played well. ozil has a better statistics than iniesta but iniesta is far better than him. messi hasnt scored against Chelsea , intermilan and Ronaldo has against both teams so therefore Ronaldo is better? analyse football completely

hensben:
brazil is brazil, forget all those talk, they like to hold the ball for too long before they pass that's the reason most of them struggle in epl but you can't take their quality away from them mostly, when they are putting on that yellow jersey.
Man of the match this season;
Hazard 12
Neymar 1.
If neymar should dare come to epl a big flop he will become with that him shakara and dolphine style of play, ask robinho, cr7 about epl if I'm lying whereas, hazard will just be strolling past those la liga defense.
Yeah hazard is/was already in chelsea while neymar was still in brazil pampered and hyped by pele and co.
Barca is aware chelsea can't let one of their best player go considering they just signed him a season ago then..that ur first paragraph nor follow.

can imagine that some one said it is easier to dribble in premier league than la liga ? in premier league they play rigid football so there is no space but in la liga the only team that plays rigid football is Atletico madrid . the rest is fluid , that's why Ronaldo can score more goals there.

oprajo:

can imagine that some one said it is easier to dribble in premier league than la liga ? in premier league they play rigid football so there is no space but in la liga the only team that plays rigid football is Atletico madrid . the rest is fluid , that's why Ronaldo can score more goals there.

exactly! all epl team play like atletico with quickness and pace except maybe arsenal...most la liga team play slow and possessive game except maybe real madrid. Considering hazard work rate with the ball he will own those la liga defenders whereas, neymar will be like flop in epl I can put my money on this. If you are a winger in epl you have to be strong, agile and pacey in order to succeed which neymar lack, see di maria as an example, he was breezing pass la liga defense, how is he now in epl.

oprajo:

it's still oscar and willian that neymar has for Brazil. in Brazil how many times do they play international competitions or friendlies? NEYMAR is playing very very well for Brazil no doubt but its at club level you know a player. in the league you are playing week in week out against teamsthat know your style of play and that requires consistence. For Barcelona he plays with messi and iniesta week in week out but for Brazil he plays with oscar and willian once in a while. Eden Hazard plays with this same players week in week out and has been consitent this season. Did you watch hazard game against Bayern Munich in the supercup ? did you see his goal? hazard has scored against all the tough teams he has played against except Atletico madrid. saying neymar excells better than hazard because he scored against tough teams is very faulty . scoring in a game doesn’t mean you played well. ozil has a better statistics than iniesta but iniesta is far better than him. messi hasnt scored against Chelsea , intermilan and Ronaldo has against both teams so therefore Ronaldo is better? analyse football completely

bro u get sense nor be all these kids checking who scored on livescores to determine who was the best in the game.

oprajo:

statistics is statistics. which of the stats is flawed or they add stats to people which they don't have? if you like choose the stats that you think is flawed lets compare it here? you didn't mention the free food that messi gives neymar. Haven't you see teams that buit their team around a player and he flopped? the team built around hazard puts pressure on him while neymar has no pressure him that's why he can joke on the pitch like trying to go and fight but you can't see messi doing that because the pressure is on him to deliver.
What does neymar for Brazil and hazard for Chelsea comparison?
comparison is done with both clubs and countries. its in clubs that you see the real player because you are playing week in week out.
Don't bring the excuse of team being built around Messi. That should make him better because he is playing without pressure . if Barcelona loses the blame will be on messi . there are stats that constant any where. a good dribbler is a good dribbler any where and time. a good passer is a good passer. neymar wouldn't dribble more than hazard if he where playing in premier league.

you dont understand my simple analysis. Hazard is chelsea plays in the manner because the team is built around him but it isn't built around Neymar in Barcelona hence Hazard edging him in some areas while Neymar edges him more in goal scoring cos that's practically his primary assignment.

Check out Neymar in Santos and Brazil where the team is built around him and he still excells pretty well. The attacking players that surrounds Neymar in Brazil to plays in chelsea(Oscar and willian) but none plays better than Neymar

jimmy4x:

Lol.....I taya o.....whr was Neymar last season when Chelsea nd Hazard sent ds same psg packing, now wey psg don comot, maybe dere star men sef don become local champions.....no b teams dey Europa or wey no even qualify for CL at all....

Bro its not d same PsG its a better PSG
we were sent packing by the same athletico Madrid that disgraced you in your home

oprajo:

statistics is statistics. which of the stats is flawed or they add stats to people which they don't have? if you like choose the stats that you think is flawed lets compare it here? you didn't mention the free food that messi gives neymar. Haven't you see teams that buit their team around a player and he flopped? the team built around hazard puts pressure on him while neymar has no pressure him that's why he can joke on the pitch like trying to go and fight but you can't see messi doing that because the pressure is on him to deliver.
What does neymar for Brazil and hazard for Chelsea comparison?
comparison is done with both clubs and countries. its in clubs that you see the real player because you are playing week in week out.
Don't bring the excuse of team being built around Messi. That should make him better because he is playing without pressure . if Barcelona loses the blame will be on messi . there are stats that constant any where. a good dribbler is a good dribbler any where and time. a good passer is a good passer. neymar wouldn't dribble more than hazard if he where playing in premier league.

neymar has never dribbled more than hazard even in la liga.... Everyone knows hazard is a better dribbler.

Flawlessangel:

neymar has never dribbled more than hazard even in la liga.... Everyone knows hazard is a better dribbler.

that’s what I have always said . hazard is the statistically the second best dribbler after messi.

ollah1:


you dont understand my simple analysis. Hazard is chelsea plays in the manner because the team is built around him but it isn't built around Neymar in Barcelona hence Hazard edging him in some areas while Neymar edges him more in goal scoring cos that's practically his primary assignment.

Check out Neymar in Santos and Brazil where the team is built around him and he still excells pretty well. The attacking players that surrounds Neymar in Brazil to plays in chelsea(Oscar and willian) but none plays better than Neymar

okay I understand

hensben:
exactly! all epl team play like atletico with quickness and pace except maybe arsenal...most la liga team play slow and possessive game except maybe real madrid. Considering hazard work rate with the ball he will own those la liga defenders whereas, neymar will be like flop in epl I can put my money on this. If you are a winger in epl you have to be strong, agile and pacey in order to succeed which neymar lack, see di maria as an example, he was breezing pass la liga defense, how is he now in epl.

Lmaoooooooooooo! Another ignorant! it's only barcelona that play with so much possession in la liga! and the possession has even reduced sef because they are more direct now!
You think Atletico are quick? Then you haven't seen Sevilla and Valencia!

I remember when Chelsea met Atletico Madrid, hazard was missing in both legs! But you can visit Calderón to ask them which player they hate the most - Neymar, why? Because they are his bitches! even last season when we were not playing at our best, he still gave them lot of trouble! check up his record against them!
No epl team is as physical as Atletico Madrid!

hensben:
exactly! all epl team play like atletico with quickness and pace except maybe arsenal...most la liga team play slow and possessive game except maybe real madrid. Considering hazard work rate with the ball he will own those la liga defenders whereas, neymar will be like flop in epl I can put my money on this. If you are a winger in epl you have to be strong, agile and pacey in order to succeed which neymar lack, see di maria as an example, he was breezing pass la liga defense, how is he now in epl.

brazilians always struggle in premier league because of the physicality .

binhozie:


Bro its not d same PsG its a better PSG
we were sent packing by the same athletico Madrid that disgraced you in your home

lol....same psg players that played last season, played again ds season except maybe David Luiz....wat r u talking about?

hensben:
brazil is brazil, forget all those talk, they like to hold the ball for too long before they pass that's the reason most of them struggle in epl but you can't take their quality away from them mostly, when they are putting on that yellow jersey.
Man of the match this season;
Hazard 12
Neymar 1.
If neymar should dare come to epl a big flop he will become with that him shakara and dolphine style of play, ask robinho, cr7 about epl if I'm lying whereas, hazard will just be strolling past those la liga defense.
Yeah hazard is/was already in chelsea while neymar was still in brazil pampered and hyped by pele and co.
Barca is aware chelsea can't let one of their best player go considering they just signed him a season ago then..that ur first paragraph nor follow.

Azzzin, e no follow at all, ds same Barca dey among doz wey dey eye Hazard den, including Madrid, Arsenal, man u, Man city, he decided to sign for the Champions league winner.

hensben:
bro u get sense nor be all these kids checking who scored on livescores to determine who was the best in the game.

the guy too sabi

homesteady:

Lmaoooooooooooo! Another ignorant! it's only barcelona that play with so much possession in la liga! and the possession has even reduced sef because they are more direct now!
You think Atletico are quick? Then you haven't seen Sevilla and Valencia!

I remember when Chelsea met Atletico Madrid, hazard was missing in both legs! But you can visit Calderón to ask them which player they hate the most - Neymar, why? Because they are his bitches! even last season when we were not playing at our best, he still gave them lot of trouble! check up his record against them!
No epl team is as physical as Atletico Madrid!

Yeah meeting atletico twice trice a season and playing team similar to atletico week in week out which do you think is more harder.
Di Maria always own atletico then but what's he doing today..I remember when di Maria played some few games for man united, you guys said he is better than hazard, where is he today...btw, read my comment again, I said atletico is the only team in la liga similar to epl team in terms of doggedness and strong but they lack the PACE and QUICKNESS of epl..

La liga team set up is all about midfield, go figure out..I'm not talking about when barca meet small team in la liga...go watch small team vs small team in la liga you will know what I meant by la liga team play possessive game.

homesteady:

Lmaoooooooooooo! Another ignorant! it's only barcelona that play with so much possession in la liga! and the possession has even reduced sef because they are more direct now!
You think Atletico are quick? Then you haven't seen Sevilla and Valencia!

I remember when Chelsea met Atletico Madrid, hazard was missing in both legs! But you can visit Calderón to ask them which player they hate the most - Neymar, why? Because they are his bitches! even last season when we were not playing at our best, he still gave them lot of trouble! check up his record against them!
No epl team is as physical as Atletico Madrid!

chai bros....even oga simeone wil tel u dz is a big lie...athletico physical dan al epl teams? Haba na ..

hensben:
Yeah meeting atletico twice trice a season and playing team similar to atletico week in week out which do you think is more harder.
Di Maria always own atletico then but what's he doing today..I remember when di Maria played some few games for man united, you guys said he is better than hazard, where is he today...btw, read my comment again, I said atletico is the only team in la liga similar to epl team in terms of doggedness and strong but they lack the PACE and QUICKNESS of epl..

La liga team set up is all about midfield, go figure out..I'm not talking about when barca meet small team in la liga...go watch small team vs small team in la liga you will know what I meant by la liga team play possessive game.

Mr Man, stop using atletico madrid as an example, no epl team plays as tough as they do! they play to the limit!

Is Navas not like the fastest winger in epl? there are guys faster than him here in la liga!

Stop arguing trash, most teams play direct, quick football! Just that la liga have mire technical players!
You think it's every dicck, tom and Harry that can play possession game?