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Re: Ask Me Any Question(s) About AMORC And Other Esoteric Organisations In Nigeria by gowaga68: 1:57pm On Apr 20, 2015 |
Rosicrucian Order AMORC What Rosicrucians study: Introductory Lessons Illusory Nature of Time and Space Human Consciousness and Cosmic Consciousness Rosicrucian Technique of Meditation Development of the Intuition Human Aura Telepathy Metaphysical Healing Mystical Sounds Spiritual Alchemy First Atrium Structure and Composition of Matter Power of Thought The Creative Power of Visualization Mental Projection and Telepathy Law of the Triangle Second Atrium Origin of Diseases Influence of Thoughts on Health Mystical Art of Breathing Rosicrucian Healing Treatments Perception of the Aura Awakening of the Psychic Consciousness Mystical Sounds Third Atrium The Great Religious Movements The Nature of Soul Purpose of our Spiritual Evolution Reincarnation and Karma Good and Evil and Free Will Intuition, Inspiration, and Illumination First Temple Degree Structure of Matter Positive and Negative as Vibratory Polarities Rosicrucian Definitions of Electricity, Magnetism, and Electromagnetism Rosicrucian Classification of Elements Material Alchemy Second Temple Degree Cosmic Consciousness Our Objective and Subjective Consciousness Mental and Sensory Illusions Imagination and Memory Physical, Psychic, and Spiritual Influence of the Subconscious Memory and Reasoning of the Subconscious Psychology and Mysticism Third Temple Degree Cosmic Purpose of Life Rosicrucian Definitions of Living and Non-living Matter Incarnation of the Soul Transition of the Soul Initiatic Aspects of Death Fourth Temple Degree Vital Life Force and the Living Soul Cycles of Life and Constant States of Flux Time, Space, Infinity and Eternity Symbols—Natural, Artificial, and Mystical Sacred Architecture Fifth Temple Degree The works of the Great Philosophers including: Thales, Solon, Pythagoras, Heraclitus, Democritus, Empedocles, Socrates, Plato and Aristotle Sixth Temple Degree Spiritual Dimension of Food Breathing and Respiratory Health Cell Consciousness and Cellular Health Rosicrucian Therapy and Self-healing Personal Treatment to Restore your Psychic Equilibrium Physical and Mental Prevention of Disease Emotional and Spiritual Prevention of Disease Seventh Temple Degree The Psychic Body and Psychic Centers Psychic Perception and Psychic Consciousness How to Accomplish Psychic Projection Nature and Symbolism of Dreams The Physical, Psychic, and Spiritual Auras Mystical Power of Vowel Sounds and Mantras Eighth Temple Degree Universal Soul and the Human Soul Divine Consciousness and Self Consciousness Spiritual Evolution of Humans Mastery of Karma Reincarnation of the Soul Memory of Past Incarnations The Mystery of Birth and Death Help to the Dying, Before and After Death Ninth Temple Degree Macrocosm and Microcosm The Four Principles: Earth, Water, Air and Fire Symbolism of the Cross, Triangle, Square, Circle, and Rose-Cross Mental Alchemy Telepathy, Telekinesis, Vibroturgy, and Radiesthesia Cosmic Protection, Mystical Regeneration Attunement with Cosmic Consciousness 2 Likes |
Re: Ask Me Any Question(s) About AMORC And Other Esoteric Organisations In Nigeria by paulGrundy(m): 11:00pm On Apr 22, 2015 |
fratermathy: Gibberish 1 Like |
Re: Ask Me Any Question(s) About AMORC And Other Esoteric Organisations In Nigeria by Pdizzle(m): 12:53am On Apr 23, 2015 |
fratermathy: Fratermathy i didn't get the pamphlet in my mail. Petermathers8757@yahoo.com. Please drop your number so i can contact you on whatsapp. |
Re: Ask Me Any Question(s) About AMORC And Other Esoteric Organisations In Nigeria by 4amorc(m): 2:55am On Apr 24, 2015 |
Cults are everywhere. And they spring up suddenly like dandelions in spring. These are flowers you do not want to pick. They may look nice, but they are more like poisonous weeds than real flowers. [img][/img]
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Re: Ask Me Any Question(s) About AMORC And Other Esoteric Organisations In Nigeria by 4amorc(m): 3:17am On Apr 24, 2015 |
I grew up very poor and became a cult member to alleviate my poverty. Only when I left the cult did I become reasonably secure- but that was because real thinking began to replace the ridiculous magical thinking that ruled me when I was in a cult. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UB0Q6GG
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Re: Ask Me Any Question(s) About AMORC And Other Esoteric Organisations In Nigeria by Nobody: 9:07am On Apr 24, 2015 |
4amorc: I was expecting your book to be free since you sound so convincing. You joined a group to alleviate your poverty? Oh how sad!!! I feel bad for you Pierre. Congrats on your new book launch though. I wish you financial success. 2 Likes |
Re: Ask Me Any Question(s) About AMORC And Other Esoteric Organisations In Nigeria by Pdizzle(m): 9:10am On Apr 24, 2015 |
AMORC teaches reincarnation, while Christianity says otherwise. Fratermathy as a Catholic, how do you balance this contradiction. |
Re: Ask Me Any Question(s) About AMORC And Other Esoteric Organisations In Nigeria by Nobody: 9:20am On Apr 24, 2015 |
Pdizzle:There's no contradiction. Reincarnation in AMORC is not a fixed concept. This means members are free to accept it or not. Members are also free to interpret it however they deem fit. I've interpreted Rosicrucian reincarnation and harmonised it with the Catholic traditional theory of heaven, hell & purgatory. Some members have done away with reincarnation altogether. It all depends on what you want to believe. However, AMORC do have experiments to prove the existence of reincarnation to any skeptic. 2 Likes |
Re: Ask Me Any Question(s) About AMORC And Other Esoteric Organisations In Nigeria by Pdizzle(m): 9:29am On Apr 24, 2015 |
literarymathy: Thanks, I'll fill the form soon, can't payments be made with atm online? |
Re: Ask Me Any Question(s) About AMORC And Other Esoteric Organisations In Nigeria by periwyte2(m): 10:16pm On May 01, 2015 |
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Re: Ask Me Any Question(s) About AMORC And Other Esoteric Organisations In Nigeria by Nobody: 1:33am On May 02, 2015 |
@literarymathy Mathy, I have read through your perceive notion about your sect, firstly I must point out to you in reasonable terms, all what you have said, presenting it in a systematic and harmless form is utter deception. It an art. Its a new age form of deception. An example, Obama has perfected this art in mainstream America hence bringing into display whoredom and lawlessness against the laws of God. (A drift a way from the argument) You claim that the reason why this thread exits is solely based on the fact that you want to clear misconceptions and extrememist views held by the general public against your sect, but I put it to you while you are on course to make us believe that, you have an ulterior motive, And that is expanding your membership base not because you'll like to but because you must have discovered your path and this self discovery lead to your awareness of possession of certain qualities eg power of conviction that'll make people believe you and follow you. That is the tool you are cultivating....now to the advantage of your sect! But as the naked truth stands, its remains deception! You composure and maturity that seems to be with flaws boils to the fact the people who are questioning are not in the know of your beliefs... Notwithstanding your animalistic traits surfaced immediately the name of a rebel was mentioned. And that is one characteristic members of secret societies possess. They are oppressive and very intolerant, they try within their power to victimise secretly while painting a saint in the outside world. You talk about reincarnation? Since the soul or spirit can begin a new life after mortal death of the body, you must have experienced it to be an authority in this, I too, because I need no one to lecture me on this bc I must have experience it in my past life as expected. Please I like you to tell me who you were in your former life and your past history. if you can't provide this answer, then I poised to believe whoever discovered the knowledge behind reincarnation is faux because he never experienced it. Secondly on same matter how do you explain a scenario where I lived a former life of an assassin then died and my soul/spirit rebirth another of an animal which later dies and rebirths and so on, and we all know that the most important part of human live is the soul/spirit and that's the entity bound to reap the deeds it sowed on earth be it good or bad... Now how is this entity able to receive it due reward of evil or good in different ages and times when he keeps rebirthing! Isn't it an unending cycle where judgement is disappears eventually. And doesn't it sound contradictory to your belief of karma although its universal. Which sounds better to the human brain your belief on this subject that will raise unending arguments or what my bible says; Hebrews 9:27 King James Version (KJV) And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Ask Me Any Question(s) About AMORC And Other Esoteric Organisations In Nigeria by Nobody: 9:59am On May 02, 2015 |
Ranks007: So you are one of these conspiracy theorists. Well, GOOD FOR YOU. 1 Like |
Re: Ask Me Any Question(s) About AMORC And Other Esoteric Organisations In Nigeria by one9jeria: 12:49pm On May 09, 2015 |
ARMOC seem to believe that wealth focus etc are forces and they demand blood which can come in the form of dedication or animal or human blood for those that want shortcut. is this true. secondly, are you people encouraged to offer sacrifices of blood, including the holy mass which is the sacrifice of the blood of Jesus. please explain this to me. |
Re: Ask Me Any Question(s) About AMORC And Other Esoteric Organisations In Nigeria by Nobody: 6:43pm On May 09, 2015 |
one9jeria:Although I have already answered most of these questions in the course of the thread, I'll still reiterate my points for the sake of clarity. AMORC doesn't demand blood and I really don't even get the concept of blood request at all. What is the blood used for? How is it collected? I don't get it. Anyway AMORC has never asked me or anyone I know, including members of 50years and counting, for blood sacrifices. This is so because; 1. AMORC is not a cult and therefore demands nothing from members other than the payment of annual dues. 2. AMORC is not a religion and has no religious figure that is worshipped at all. 3. AMORC doesn't give its members wealth or mysterious powers so there's no need to make sacrifices for anything or to get what is non existent. AMORC is a school, a university of life. 4. AMORC doesn't believe nor encourage fetishism of any form including sacrilegious blood sacrifices. 5. AMORC is a free society and if members don't like what they see, they can easily leave and no one will even notice. 6. AMORC doesn't practise any "holy mass" as you've said so we don't believe in the transmutation of bread and wine to body and blood. That's a Catholic belief and has nothing whatsoever to do with AMORC. 7. Above all, AMORC's basic beliefs lay upon karma-the law of repercussions. AMORC believes that whatsoever you do will come back to haunt you or bless you depending on whether it's bad or good. So if anyone kills another person, HE CAN NEVER ESCAPE KARMA. |
Re: Ask Me Any Question(s) About AMORC And Other Esoteric Organisations In Nigeria by one9jeria: 6:43pm On May 11, 2015 |
You ignited my interest in AMORC and i searched for someone who people said is one of your members in my neighbourhood. when i aproached him he admitted and was in line with many things you said. he even claim he is now a master and can command things like favour and opportunity to come to him through meditation. but he said if i want to begin i should stop eating meat and eat only fish. if AMORC really teaches this, why should we stop eating meat? |
Re: Ask Me Any Question(s) About AMORC And Other Esoteric Organisations In Nigeria by Nobody: 6:04am On May 12, 2015 |
one9jeria:I don't know where the person got that tenet from. Maybe it's his personal idiosyncrasy. However be rest assured that I do eat meat very well and so too with many members I know. AMORC doesn't dictate what and what not to eat. However, medical specialists, as you already know, will tell you that fish is a better deal than meat. This has nothing to do with AMORC so please meet the person that told you and ask him to clarify if it's AMORC's teachings or his personal beliefs. Secondly, be wary of any stranger who just tells you he is an AMORC member. Many of the times, people use amorc as a face cover for membership in other societies.. The average person that tells you without warrant or purpose that he is an AMORC member should be seen with skepticism until you've known his purpose. Most amorc members would rather keep to themselves than talk about their membership except it's for a certain purpose. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Ask Me Any Question(s) About AMORC And Other Esoteric Organisations In Nigeria by Babacele: 2:26am On Jun 12, 2015 |
vhickky:Has he answered you? if not then u can do something very simple : For a particular desire ,positive please, promise to share part of it with someone or persons when your prayer is answered or request granted by God. spend 5 to 10 mins daily for abt 3 days maintaining a time routine to arrange your tots n acknowledge nature n God for His blessings. n DT since u are part of a grand plan of nature, you wants shall be granted to help in your evolution n promise to put back into this nature's bank of blessing in form of gifts, helping d sick ,volunteer to teach a neighbors kid whose parent can't afford d pay, etc n after your request, say ' May the Will of God be done' n forget about everything trusting God while you do yr best to be fair in your dealings everyday. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Ask Me Any Question(s) About AMORC And Other Esoteric Organisations In Nigeria by chynabest(m): 8:16am On Jun 13, 2015 |
Dont mind this people o. They make it look good but when you join you see the bitter side of it. Dnt let anyone deceived you by there sweet and enticing word. |
Re: Ask Me Any Question(s) About AMORC And Other Esoteric Organisations In Nigeria by Hiploko(m): 1:40pm On Jun 13, 2015 |
....kNOw Jesus kNOw life.... All these other things are vanity...mankind looking for false truth since 1900. Accept Jesus Christ the only true way to God Almighty!!! |
Re: Ask Me Any Question(s) About AMORC And Other Esoteric Organisations In Nigeria by JudeNzemeks(m): 6:30am On Oct 06, 2015 |
topearos: Funny enough, the way that seems right to men today is the church, mosque and other religious sects. 3 Likes |
Re: Ask Me Any Question(s) About AMORC And Other Esoteric Organisations In Nigeria by djgrafiti(m): 9:56pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
Hi Everybody,please does anyone here knows where i can get dis book within Lagos.The name of the author is T lobsang Rampa and the title is 'The Third Eye'....@Op kudos to u i enjoyed reading ur write ups....quite educating i must say. |
Re: Ask Me Any Question(s) About AMORC And Other Esoteric Organisations In Nigeria by sexy74(m): 2:12pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
djgrafiti:send me your email so i can send you the soft copy. |
Re: Ask Me Any Question(s) About AMORC And Other Esoteric Organisations In Nigeria by McTobe(m): 2:29pm On Nov 05, 2015 |
@OP Grail Message is not based on religious mysticism as u said. U may do well to correct that impression in your own words to close that circle u have opened for yourself (if you understand what I mean). The Grail Movement and The Grail Message are purely two different things. Grail Movement in Nigeria is an organization of people that have read the Grail message and strive to live by the truth as contained in the book. Such people come together to tell other human beings of the work called the GRAIL MESSAGE authored by Abd Ru Shin through Public lectures, Book exhibitions, radio and TV programs amongst other avenues. Through the same organization the sealing is also performed on adherents of the Grail Message who request for it by one called for the purpose, also such adherents who request are permitted to wear the Grail cross(Grail cross and sealing are not the same). If you have examined the book and not just flipping through it you will not miss the fact that Grail Message rejects Mysticism. In its introductory Message "For your Guidance" the author also spelt out that he brought no new religion or sect. That there is an organized body called Grail Movement or Grail Message Foundation as they are called in the USA doesn't make it a religion please. There are also many adherent of the Grail Message who don't even make any contact with the Movement. having read through your response and answers to people I have no doubt that you know what makes an organization a religious body. I am sure you are on a the part to the maturity of your spirit and I have no doubt that if you remain in Ernest that the mercies and grace of the creator of all the worlds will lead you to the one true path to the luminous gardens of the matured human spirit. Wishing you love and strength. 1 Like |
Re: Ask Me Any Question(s) About AMORC And Other Esoteric Organisations In Nigeria by johnnynwa(m): 8:09pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
Yes, I stumbled on this piece & eager to contact you for more enlightenment. My number... 08032128548 /08080831965, please... Johnny. |
Re: Ask Me Any Question(s) About AMORC And Other Esoteric Organisations In Nigeria by Babacele: 3:35am On Dec 21, 2015 |
Greetings fellow nairalanders,Frater Mathy you are doing great. I grew up with rosicrucians n have never seen any person that is more calm ,knowledgible n clear thinking like them. From Akhnaton's concept of 1 God to Jesus's love sermons I'm more than convinced that the order is the foremost true partner in the cosmic plans for humanity. 2016 will I enter the porter by God's grace. peace profound. 1 Like |
Re: Ask Me Any Question(s) About AMORC And Other Esoteric Organisations In Nigeria by Boss13: 11:24am On Dec 21, 2015 |
Babacele: Good to know |
Re: Ask Me Any Question(s) About AMORC And Other Esoteric Organisations In Nigeria by tolution: 2:32pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
I'm interested kindly PM me |
Re: Ask Me Any Question(s) About AMORC And Other Esoteric Organisations In Nigeria by amaswg: 11:52am On Feb 19, 2016 |
@ Frater Mathy. I don't see any thing wrong in mastering our hidden self but if AMORCK has to do with the selling of soul to the devil, count me out! I have been on this research for a while but i still need to talk to a member 1 on 1 like face to face, am based in warri let me have a cell number of your member here for discussion. |
Re: Ask Me Any Question(s) About AMORC And Other Esoteric Organisations In Nigeria by Intrepid01(m): 5:05pm On Feb 19, 2016 |
I went through every page of this thread. I was shocked to see the other side of this Op. I read through his seductive and convincing style of writing, one that is worthy of commendation actually. I noticed is anger and negative tendencies when his belief was criticized. I noticed his ability to address questions with deviations from the subject matter and further persuasion of the reader. But most importantly, I wonder how come this Op; known for his intolerable and uncivil character in other sections like Romance could appear so subtle, cool and calm here. Exactly to what end? There must be a higher motive I believe. #just thinking 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Ask Me Any Question(s) About AMORC And Other Esoteric Organisations In Nigeria by fratermathy(m): 10:00am On Feb 20, 2016 |
Intrepid01:If you are referring to myself, I' don't post in the romance section. Check my threads for yourself. |
Re: Ask Me Any Question(s) About AMORC And Other Esoteric Organisations In Nigeria by Intrepid01(m): 3:51pm On Feb 20, 2016 |
fratermathy:I forgot to mention anoda observation;the multiple monikers answering the same way and Infact same person. The thread was started by Nobody, later continued by Literarymathy and then the sweet Fratermathy. I took these monikers as one person and the comment I passed was for Nobody. |
Re: Ask Me Any Question(s) About AMORC And Other Esoteric Organisations In Nigeria by fratermathy(m): 4:07pm On Feb 20, 2016 |
Intrepid01: My monikers are literarymathy and fratermathy. Nobody means an account was deleted. 2 Likes |
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