Allah Almighty Said: "We will show them Our signs in the Universe and inside their selves, until it will become quite clear to them that it is the truth. Is it not sufficient as regards your Lord that He is a witness over all things? (The Noble Quran, 41:53)"

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: "Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, created Adam in His own image with His length of sixty cubits, and as He created him He told him to greet that group, and that was a party of angels sitting there, and listen to the response that they give him, for it would form his greeting and that of his offspring. He then went away and said: Peace be upon you! They (the angels) said: May there be peace upon you and the Mercy of Allah, and they made an addition of" Mercy of Allah". So he who would get into Paradise would get in the form of Adam, his length being sixty cubits, then the people who followed him continued to diminish in size up to this day. (Translation of Sahih Muslim, Book 040, Number 6809)"

Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "Allah created Adam, making him 60 cubits tall. When He created him, He said to him, "Go and greet that group of angels, and listen to their reply, for it will be your greeting (salutation) and the greeting (salutations of your offspring." So, Adam said (to the angels), As-Salamu Alaikum (i.e. Peace be upon you). The angels said, "As-salamu Alaika wa Rahmatu-l-lahi" (i.e. Peace and Allah's Mercy be upon you). Thus the angels added to Adam's salutation the expression, 'Wa Rahmatu-l-lahi,' Any person who will enter Paradise will resemble Adam (in appearance and figure). People have been decreasing in stature since Adam's creation. (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 55, Number 543)"

Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "The first group of people who will enter Paradise, will be glittering like the full moon and those who will follow them, will glitter like the most brilliant star in the sky. They will not urinate, relieve nature, spit, or have any nasal secretions. Their combs will be of gold, and their sweat will smell like musk. The aloes-wood will be used in their centers. Their wives will be houris. All of them will look alike and will resemble their father Adam (in statute), sixty cubits tall." (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 55, Number 544)"

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: "The first group of my Ummah to get into Paradise would be like a full moon in the night. Then those who would be next to them; they would be like the most significantly glittering stars in regard to brightness, then after them (others) in ranks. They would neither void excrement, nor pass water, nor suffer from catarrh, nor would they spit. And their combs would be made of gold, and the fuel of their braziers would be aloes and their sweat would be musk and their form would be the form of one single person according to the length of their father sixty cubits tall. This hadith has been transmitted on the authority of Ibn Abi Shaiba with a slight variation of wording. (Translation of Sahih Muslim, Book 040, Number 6796)"

Earths Expansion in the Quran:


[079:030] And the earth, moreover, hath He expanded;


Transliteration:

[079:030] Waal-arda baAAda thalika dahaha

Dahaha (دحاها) means expanded, made spherical, balanced, and caused to move.


Scientific proof:

After the earth's crust cooled off, and water began to form, and the moon was created from the ring of rocks that was encircling life, similar to the one we're in today, is estimated to have begun on earth around 3.8 billion years ago. Earth's age is estimated to be close to 4.6 billion years old.

"Low Gravity

Planets with gravities lower than .8 have the following effects on people experiencing this gravity (assuming the person is from an EWS world where gravity is 1.0):

Increased Strength (objects of the same mass weigh less, enabling muscles used to higher gravities to accelerate them quickly and more easily)
Reduced Dexterity (the muscles used to move the body for normal tasks are used to greater resistance, and therefore tend to overcompensate for motions)
Thinner Air (lower gravity can hold a smaller amount of air against a planet; NWP's such as Endurance or Running can offset this)
Increased Height (less weight means elastic supportive tissue can expand, resulting in a height increase; astronauts in 0 gravity have reported height increases of 1 inch or more)
..........

High Gravity

A humanoid body is better at handling lesser gravities than greater ones. Planets with gravities higher than 1.2 have the following effects on people experiencing this gravity (assuming the person is from an EWS world where gravity is 1.0):

Decreased Strength (objects of the same mass weigh more, requiring more effort to move them)
Reduced Dexterity (the muscles used to move the body for normal tasks are used to less resistance, and therefore tend to undercompensate for motions)
Decreased Height (more weight means elastic supportive tissue is compressed more, resulting in a height decrease)"

Example:
Since there is no (or little) gravity in space the bones of the astronauts are less squashed together. The astronauts, therefore, do gain a bit of height due to this fact." (Source)

According to scientists The earth was much smaller (estimated it was only 10% its current size) and kept expanding:

The fact that earth had far larger, taller and heavier creatures on it (dinosaurs and others) proves that it was a much smaller planet. As scientists confirmed, the smaller the planet, the lesser its gravity and the larger and taller its creatures will be.


Therefore, it should be of no conflict with science to claim that Adam's size, or man's initial size on earth in general, was in the neighborhood of 90 feet tall, or that the first human-race ever walked on earth was around 90 feet tall, give or take 10 to 20 feet between the creatures' differences in heights as we today have people as tall as 7 feet and as short as 2 feet tall. The reason for this is simply because the planet earth was much smaller than what it is now.

Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, said that Adam, peace be upon him, was around 90 feet tall when he lived on earth. This goes in perfect harmony with the fact that earth used to be much much smaller, which no one knew this fact at the time of the Prophet, and that it kept growing.

...I no fit shout !!! ...

johnydon22:
...I no fit shout !!! ...

When i saw "Allah Almighty..." i lost interest

An2elect2:
When i saw "Allah Almighty..." i lost interest

why?

johnydon22:


why?

because Allah is not God

An2elect2:


because Allah is not God

2:171 (Y. Ali) The parable of those who reject Faith is as if one were to shout Like a goat-herd, to things that listen to nothing but calls and cries: Deaf, dumb, and blind, they are void of wisdom.

17:72 (Y. Ali) But those who were blind in this world, will be blind in the hereafter, and most astray from the Path.

20:124 (Y. Ali) "But whosoever turns away from My Message, verily for him is a life narrowed down, and We shall raise him up blind on the Day of Judgment."

EzioAuditore:
According to scientists The earth was much smaller (estimated it was only 10% its current size) and kept expanding:

The fact that earth had far larger, taller and heavier creatures on it (dinosaurs and others) proves that it was a much smaller planet. As scientists confirmed, the smaller the planet, the lesser its gravity and the larger and taller its creatures will be.


Therefore, it should be of no conflict with science to claim that Adam's size, or man's initial size on earth in general, was in the neighborhood of 90 feet tall, or that the first human-race ever walked on earth was around 90 feet tall, give or take 10 to 20 feet between the creatures' differences in heights as we today have people as tall as 7 feet and as short as 2 feet tall. The reason for this is simply because the planet earth was much smaller than what it is now.

I was gonna ignore but this caught my attention ^^

Do you think there was any life on earth during it's formation OR that the earth expanded after life appeared(/was created according to you guys)?

EzioAuditore:


2:171 (Y. Ali) The parable of those who reject Faith is as if one were to shout Like a goat-herd, to things that listen to nothing but calls and cries: Deaf, dumb, and blind, they are void of wisdom.

17:72 (Y. Ali) But those who were blind in this world, will be blind in the hereafter, and most astray from the Path.

20:124 (Y. Ali) "But whosoever turns away from My Message, verily for him is a life narrowed down, and We shall raise him up blind on the Day of Judgment."

Your @llah is of the devil. The one in me is his God and your God

An2elect2:


because Allah is not God

Why do you say allah is not God?

DProDG:

I was gonna ignore but this caught my attention ^^

Do you think there was any life on earth during it's formation OR that the earth expanded after life appeared(/was created according to you guys)?

You are free to confirm at any reputable website or book, but the earth is still expanding. Proving Allahs claim 1400 years ago, that it is he who expands the earth.

johnydon22:



Why do you say allah is not God?

Because i know who God is. So that makes sense

EzioAuditore:

You are free to confirm at any reputable website or book, but the earth is still expanding. Proving Allahs claim 1400 years ago, that it is he who expands the earth.

So are you arguing based on faith or science?

An2elect2:


Because i know who God is. So that makes sense

Just exactly the same way the muslims know who God is which is Allah. . .

So now tell me why do you think your God is the real one but Allah(God) is not ??

An2elect2:


Your @llah is of the devil. The one in me is his God and your God

People of the Book, do not go to excess in your religion, and do not say anything about God except the truth: the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was nothing more than a messenger of God, His word, directed to Mary, a spirit from Him. So believe in God and His messengers and do not speak of a 'Trinity'—stop, that is better for you—God is only one God, He is far above having a son, everything in the heavens and earth belongs to Him and He is the best one to trust.

— Qur'an, sura 4 (An-Nisa), ayat 171[2]
Those who say, "God is the Messiah, son of Mary," have defied God. The Messiah himself said; "Children of Israel, worship God, my Lord and your Lord." If anyone associates others with God, God will forbid him from the Garden, and Hell will be his home. No one will help such evildoers. Those people who say that God is the third of three are defying [the truth]: there is only One God. If they persist in what they are saying, a painful punishment will afflict those of them who persist. Why do they not turn to God and ask his forgiveness, when God is most forgiving, most merciful? The Messiah, son of Mary, was only a messenger; other messengers had come and gone before him; his mother was a virtuous woman; both ate food. See how clear We make these signs for them; see how deluded they are.

"A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, 'Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is suffering terribly from demon-possession. Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, 'Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.' He [Jesus] answered, 'I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.' The woman came and knelt before him. 'Lord, help me!' she said. He [Jesus] replied 'It is not right to take the children's [Jews] bread [blessings and miracles reserved for them] and toss it to their dogs [the Canaanite, or the Philistines].' 'Yes, Lord' she said, 'but even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters' table.' Then Jesus answered, 'Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted.' And her daughter was healed from that very hour. (From the NIV Bible, Matthew 15:22-28)"


"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing. (From the NIV Bible, Matthew 23:37)"

DProDG:

So are you arguing based on faith or science?

Both, mate. "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

This is one of the most fact-free posts I've ever read. Congrats OP!

EzioAuditore:


People of the Book, do not go to excess in your religion, and do not say anything about God except the truth: the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was nothing more than a messenger of God, His word, directed to Mary, a spirit from Him. So believe in God and His messengers and do not speak of a 'Trinity'—stop, that is better for you—God is only one God, He is far above having a son, everything in the heavens and earth belongs to Him and He is the best one to trust.

— Qur'an, sura 4 (An-Nisa), ayat 171[2]
Those who say, "God is the Messiah, son of Mary," have defied God. The Messiah himself said; "Children of Israel, worship God, my Lord and your Lord." If anyone associates others with God, God will forbid him from the Garden, and Hell will be his home. No one will help such evildoers. Those people who say that God is the third of three are defying [the truth]: there is only One God. If they persist in what they are saying, a painful punishment will afflict those of them who persist. Why do they not turn to God and ask his forgiveness, when God is most forgiving, most merciful? The Messiah, son of Mary, was only a messenger; other messengers had come and gone before him; his mother was a virtuous woman; both ate food. See how clear We make these signs for them; see how deluded they are.

"A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, 'Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is suffering terribly from demon-possession. Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, 'Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.' He [Jesus] answered, 'I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.' The woman came and knelt before him. 'Lord, help me!' she said. He [Jesus] replied 'It is not right to take the children's [Jews] bread [blessings and miracles reserved for them] and toss it to their dogs [the Canaanite, or the Philistines].' 'Yes, Lord' she said, 'but even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters' table.' Then Jesus answered, 'Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted.' And her daughter was healed from that very hour. (From the NIV Bible, Matthew 15:22-28)"


"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing. (From the NIV Bible, Matthew 23:37)"

Your point is?

EzioAuditore:
Both, mate. "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

Okay, so can you cite any accepted scientific publication that proposes an expanding earth?

johnydon22:


Just exactly the same way the muslims know who God is which is Allah. . .

So now tell me why do you think your God is the real one but Allah(God) is not ??

Because i have a Spirit-witness in me that was not there until i knew the truth

onetrack:
This is one of the most fact-free posts I've ever read. Congrats OP!

if you see how lame ur Op is, you would take science out of it. .

An2elect2:


Because i have a Spirit-witness in me that was not there until i knew the truth

And if you were born into a muslim family, do you think you wouldn't believe allah is the real one?

johnydon22:


And if you were born into a muslim family, do you think you wouldn't believe allah is the real one?

I was born into a catholic family and i thought catholicism was true until i knew the truth and now am out

An2elect2:


I was born into a catholic family and i thought catholicism was true until i knew the truth and now am out

And now you THINK where you are is true. . . the same thinking.

Now the question was. . If you were born into a muslim family wouldn't you think Allah is the right one?

An2elect2:

Your point is?

God was sent only to the people of Israel? No wonder they feel superior to you. But we believe that like many prophets who were sent to different people at different times before him, he was sent to the people of Israel with the same message, the oneness of God.


And in their footsteps We sent Isa the son of Maryam, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah.
Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel.

—Quran sura 5, (Al-Ma'ida), ayat 46-47[20]

johnydon22:


And now you THINK where you are is true. . . the same thinking.

Now the question was. . If you were born into a muslim family wouldn't you think Allah is the right one?

I am 100% sure and i know whom i have believed.

If i was born into a muslim family and the truth is shown me, i have no other choice than to renounce islam

EzioAuditore:


God was sent only to the people of Israel? No wonder they feel superior to you. But we believe that like many prophets who were sent to different people at different times before him, he was sent to the people of Israel with the same message, the oneness of God.


And in their footsteps We sent Isa the son of Maryam, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah.
Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel.

—Quran sura 5, (Al-Ma'ida), ayat 46-47[20]

who cares what you believe. lol. As long as its false, it can fly over my head. LOL How do people argue with muslims? its a no no for me except...

An2elect2:


I am 100% sure and i know whom i have believed.

If i was born into a muslim family and the truth is shown me, i have no other choice than to renounce islam

Now we both know thats a lie. . . Cus muslims think they have the truth just like you yourself think you do. . you think the jewish deity is the right one while they think the reworked arabic version is. this is subjective to your convictions and emotional sentiments.

Meanwhile the 100% part is another lie, you are not sure thats why faith is needed

DProDG:

Okay, so can you cite any accepted scientific publication that proposes an expanding earth?

http://www.expanding-earth.org/ like I said, you can check any reputable website, this is just something I picked off of google, you may check other sources if you want.

johnydon22:



Why do you say allah is not God?

because God has many names but allah is not one of them

An2elect2:


who cares what you believe. lol. As long as its false, it can fly over my head. LOL How do people argue with muslims? its a no no for me except...

You see this is exactly why I do this.

skyhighweb:
because God has many names but allah is not one of them

And this is according to who? You or the muslims?

Can you give us one name of ur own God concept?