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Re: Like Obasanjo Like Buhari? by otemanuduno: 3:51pm On Apr 26, 2015
Barcanista: [size=18pt]
Obasanjo's 1976/79 Ministers boasts that Obasanjo could not boast of more that N20,000 as at 1998. Obasanjo was just too clean that even the BBC described him as "incorruptible Nigeria leader" in 1999

Pls barcanista can u give me a link to where BBC declared OBJ as too clean and having #20,000 in the account? If you can't provide such link then you are the GREATEST LIE that ever happened to PROPAGANDA[/size]

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Re: Like Obasanjo Like Buhari? by MzJackBaueress(f): 3:51pm On Apr 26, 2015
Mogidi:
[s][/s]

barcanista is not the subject of debate here, counter the issues raised.
when it happens off nairaland,I hope you will be there to defend him.

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Re: Like Obasanjo Like Buhari? by dridowu: 3:51pm On Apr 26, 2015
GMB my hero, OBJ my role model
In Oshiomole voice go and ................

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Re: Like Obasanjo Like Buhari? by egift(m): 3:52pm On Apr 26, 2015
SeverusSnape:

So you're now an elder? grin
Sir, I'm gonna defend Barca any time I feel like, If you guys have the liberty to insult and call him names, then I don't see why I can't defend him. By the way, who's gonna give me a "broken jaw"?... You?... Others.
Some people are saying I'm temitemi1... Laughable grin
You and even some others are suggesting I'm barcanista... Hilarious.
The guy is one of us now, you guys rejected and ostracized him, we accepted him, so I don't see anything wrong in defending him.
Thanks

I gave you a free advice, you can take it or leave it. And when people start mistaken you for someone else, then you have to read my advice again. Be your own man and make your own stand. Stop dwelling under the shadow of others. That's all grin grin grin grin

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Re: Like Obasanjo Like Buhari? by Mogidi: 3:53pm On Apr 26, 2015
MzJackBaueress:
when it happens off nairaland,I hope you will be there to defend him.


[size=15pt]SEE PAINMENT[/size]
Are you planning on kidnapping barcanista?

Hold berem responsible if anything happens to barca.
Re: Like Obasanjo Like Buhari? by Nobody: 3:53pm On Apr 26, 2015
Barcanista is a traitor he used to be one of my allies when I was supporting Buhari before the election. He has no principles and speaks from both sides of his mouth.He repulses me and is a straight up coward.

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Re: Like Obasanjo Like Buhari? by natureblack(m): 3:55pm On Apr 26, 2015
ChinemeOkpan:
Barcanista, enough of this rhetoric. You impress no one with your baseless assumptions and equally daft conclusions.

You said you will criticize Buhari and his government, why dont you wait till he takes over before you start opening all these redundant threads?

Have you been mandated to open one anti-Buhari thread per day?
If the freedom of speech and expression is taken away,then dumb and silent we may be led,like sheep to the slaughter.

Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.Refute Barcanista's post(s) constructively,or forever remain in "airplane mode". angry angry

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Re: Like Obasanjo Like Buhari? by SeverusSnape(m): 3:55pm On Apr 26, 2015
egift:


I gave you a free advice, you can take it or leave it. And when people start mistaken you for someone else, then you have to read my advice again. Be your own man and make your own stand. Stop dwelling under the shadow of others. That's all grin grin grin grin
I'm already my own man. Defending someone else doesn't make me another man.
Re: Like Obasanjo Like Buhari? by Nobody: 3:56pm On Apr 26, 2015
Truckpusher:
Lmao.

Naija dun enter one chance.

APC is a fraud. grin
My Brother, na so we see am o

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Re: Like Obasanjo Like Buhari? by OrlandoOwoh(m): 3:57pm On Apr 26, 2015
Abeg, na where Buhari house dey for Abuja?

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Re: Like Obasanjo Like Buhari? by MzJackBaueress(f): 3:57pm On Apr 26, 2015
Mogidi:



[size=15pt]SEE PAINMENT[/size]
Are you planning on kidnapping barcanista?

Hold berem responsible if anything happens to barca.
you haven't answered my question Moses. Will you be there to fight for him when it happens?

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Re: Like Obasanjo Like Buhari? by Nobody: 3:58pm On Apr 26, 2015
SeverusSnape:

Barcanista is not a loser, he's a role model to many here, You can only dream of having an analytical mind such as his.
Joke of the century!!! hahahahhahaha

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Re: Like Obasanjo Like Buhari? by Mogidi: 3:58pm On Apr 26, 2015
SeverusSnape:
I'm already my own man. Defending someone else doesn't make me another man.

Na badbelle dey worry egift, he won't get over barcanista's defection.
Re: Like Obasanjo Like Buhari? by Kolade354(m): 3:58pm On Apr 26, 2015
SeverusSnape:
Shut it!!!
You see that man selling Suya dont even know Barcanista or severussnape exist..............He only knw buhari has his vote anyday anytime.

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Re: Like Obasanjo Like Buhari? by deletrue: 3:59pm On Apr 26, 2015
No normal human being will take this vegetable Buhari serious. How can a man talk of fighing corruption when all his followers are corrupt. Apart apc members there are no other Nigerians that will take this dead wood of a president elect serious. I can categorically tell Nigerians that we are now finally in for the worst times. All the most popular corrupt Nigerian can only be found in this government. Thieves.

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Re: Like Obasanjo Like Buhari? by Nobody: 4:00pm On Apr 26, 2015
Mogidi:
[s][/s]

barcanista is not the subject of debate here, counter the issues raised.

He didn't raise any issues. If he wanted to draw comparison; he might have compared Buhari with his principal who came to government without shoes but leaving after stupendous and voracious acquisition; including appropriating government lands in Abuja. He stated that Buhari has houses in Kaduna and Abuja after being Petroleum Minister, GOC, Head of State and head of PTF. Let Barcanistar state how much his principal has acquired.

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Re: Like Obasanjo Like Buhari? by SeverusSnape(m): 4:00pm On Apr 26, 2015
Mogidi:


Na badbelle dey worry egift, he won't get over barcanista's defection.
Don't mind the guy, He's apparently a Sadist.

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Re: Like Obasanjo Like Buhari? by zeb04(f): 4:00pm On Apr 26, 2015
Only time will tell.
Re: Like Obasanjo Like Buhari? by Mogidi: 4:01pm On Apr 26, 2015
MzJackBaueress:
you haven't answered my question Moses. Will you be there to fight for him when it happens?

I would be there to assist the police with evidence.

I go tell olokpa say na berem.

Anyway why would it come to violence? Are you Buhari supporters already irked by the criticisms he's getting? This is just the beginning, get used to it.

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Re: Like Obasanjo Like Buhari? by Kolade354(m): 4:01pm On Apr 26, 2015
MizMyColi:


Should that be the case, would you be willing to regard yourself as a failure also?
He wont fail gurl.......Just kip hoping and stay Positive............
Re: Like Obasanjo Like Buhari? by Omotayo7(m): 4:02pm On Apr 26, 2015
atikubaba:
My friend go and rest and lick your wound for the next four years. Buhari is OUR president no matter what u say.
Human will always be human don't side anybody let just wait and see

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Re: Like Obasanjo Like Buhari? by ogunniyi2: 4:03pm On Apr 26, 2015
Enemy of progress
barcanista:

Obasanjo Pre-1999 Antecedent:

General Olusegun Obasanjo rose to power in year 1976 after the assassination of General Murtala Muhammed. He set the motion to transfer power back to democratic administration that last tasted power in 1966. He successfully conducted the 1976 general election that produced the second republic government officials led by Alhaji Shehu Shagari and Chief Alex Ekweme.
Obasanjo also has the reputation of building Portharcourt II and Kaduna Refineries, and the Warri Petrochemical Company as Head of State. Muhammadu Buhari was the Petroleum Minister/NNPC Boss during this period.

The Pre-1998/1999 "Poor" and Incorruptible Chief Obasanjo

Obasanjo's 1976/79 Ministers boasts that Obasanjo could not boast of more that N20,000 as at 1998. Obasanjo was just too clean that even the BBC described him as "incorruptible Nigeria leader" in 1999. Today we know the rest of the story.
ynaija.com/derivation-and-deprivation-ii-the-ill-gotten-wealth-of-obasanjo/
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/280552.stm


Obasanjo Came With Lots of Promises

1. March 2, 1999: Obasanjo Promised To End Corruption, and To Lead A Transparent Government

In his first public speech when he was declared the winner of February 1999 Presidential Election election, General Obasanjo called for political unity and promised he would lead "an open and fair and transparent government". He also Promised to fight corruption. In His own words "I will fight corruption,"
"Together, we will strive to bequeath to the next generation a truly democratic system of governance for our country,"
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/289437.stm

November 1999: Obasanjo Also Promised To Revive Ajaokuta Steel Company as well as stamp out corruption
Obasanjo promised to revive Ajaokuta steel and to clean Nigeria off corruption
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/515788.stm

2. May 29, 2000: Obasanjo Reiterated He Will Fight Corruption And There WIll Be No Sacred Cow

in his year 2000 democracy day broadcast, Obasanjo reiterated his vow to fight corruption and there will be no sacred cow. In his own word....
"For corruption, Transparency International awarded us the World Cup...for me I'm aiming put an end to corruption in Nigeria and there will be no sacred cows,"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/766035.stm

3. In 1999 Obasanjo Promised Stable Electricity
Obasanjo vowed to provide stable electricity. In fact his then Power and Steel Minister Chief Bola Ige boasted that the electricity issue will be resolved within SIX MONTHS
allafrica.com/stories/200605260200.html

What Happened Next?

Rather than stamp-out corruption, President Obasanjo was alleged to be enmeshed in corrupt practices. The man who was said to have less than N20,000 before assuming power built a N7 billion Naira Presidential Library for himself, as well as the expensive Bells University of Technology, Otta and other asset. The man that promised "No Sacred Cow" became the complete opposite of his own mantra. The "incorruptible exGeneral" was indicted by the Senate in PTDF scam and was also alleged to have a huge interest Transcorp.

The man that Promised stable Power supply in 1999, had to tell us through his then Minister of State for Power and Steel Senaor Liyel Imoke in May 2006 that "Nigeria Should Not expect stable electricity till 2056" after admittedly spending a whopping N1.3trn on "Power Reform" between 1999 and 2006. allafrica.com/stories/200605150306.html
www.nairaland.com/12883/imoke-expect-stable-electricity-2056

The man that promised to run transparent administration refused to sign Freedom of Information bill in 2007. The man that Nigerians celebrated could not organise a single Free, fair and credible election and treated the court with impunity.


General Muhammadu Buhari

President-elect Muhammadu Buhari like Olusegun Obasanjo has this "incorruptible" tag attached to his name. He was part of the Obasanjo government as the Petroleum Minister between 1977 and 1979. Like Obasanjo, he has vowed to run transparent administration and fight corruption with "No sacred cows". He is said to be "relatively poor" though he has property in Kaduna and Abuja.As at November 2014, he said he only has about a million naira N1m in his account that he had to secure loan to purchase his N27m APC Presidential form.
Like Obasanjo, his election is seen as a "new era" with people having high hopes in him. He promised to give Nigerians stable electricity which he specifically said at his campaign rally in Calabar in January 2015. In his own words “Our industries are dying and will continue to die unless we get the issue of power supply correct. We will resuscitate our industries,”http://www.punchng.com/news/ill-ensure-stable-power-supply-buhari/.


Similarities Between Obasanjo and Buhari's Backers:

In 1998, General Ibrahim Babangida (rtd) and the corrupt military cabals were the major backers of Obasanjo's Presidency. In fact, it was Babangida that asked Chief Obasanjo to run for 1999 Presidential election. People had thought that Obasanjo would put all these people where they deserve by prosecuting them, but on the contrary Obasanjo ended up as being a part and parcel of these people.

Buhari's backers include same Olusegun Obasanjo, Chief Bola Ahmed Tinubu that is said to have become stupendiously rich within a short period, Alh Atiku Abubakar that was indicted by the Senate and EFCC over PTDF scam, Bukola Saraki, George Akume, Former PDP Chairmen Barnabas Germade and Audu Ogbeh, as well as prominent players within and outside the PDP that were in government between 1999 and 2013.



May God Spare Our Lives To Witness The Full Tenure of The Incoming Administration
God Bless Nigeria


Source: http://solomontonye..com/2015/04/like-obasanjo-like-buhari.html
Re: Like Obasanjo Like Buhari? by Mogidi: 4:04pm On Apr 26, 2015
kITATITA:


He didn't raise any issues. If he wanted to draw comparison; he might have compared Buhari with his principal who came to government without shoes but leaving after stupendous and voracious acquisition; including appropriating government lands in Abuja. He stated that Buhari has houses in Kaduna and Abuja after being Petroleum Minister, GOC, Head of State and head of PTF. [size=15pt]Let Barcanistar state how much his principal has acquired.[/size]

Why don't you do the research yourself and show us proof that GEJ acquired wealth beyond his means?

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Re: Like Obasanjo Like Buhari? by MzJackBaueress(f): 4:05pm On Apr 26, 2015
Mogidi:


I would be there to assist the police with evidence.

I go tell olokpa say na berem.

Anyway why would it come to violence? Are you Buhari supporters already irked by the criticisms he's getting? This is just the beginning, get used to it.
I didn't say anything o! You are the one assuming nonsense. Did I tell you I was planning to harm him?

Anyway,when it happens,make sure you fight for him.

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Re: Like Obasanjo Like Buhari? by MizMyColi(f): 4:05pm On Apr 26, 2015
Kolade354:
He wont fail gurl.......Just kip hoping and stay Positive............

Well, true that.
We, in the opposition will do our best to ensure he hits the ground running.

You might wanna retract your statement though.

Buhari's failure or success cannot be a yardstick to judge my performance or that of individual Nigerians.

Let's just play our part.

Re: Like Obasanjo Like Buhari? by Nobody: 4:06pm On Apr 26, 2015
deletrue:
No normal human being will take this vegetable Buhari serious. How can a man talk of fighing corruption when all his followers are corrupt. Apart apc members there are no other Nigerians that will take this dead wood of a president elect serious. I can categorically tell Nigerians that we are now finally in for the worst times. All the most popular corrupt Nigerian can only be found in this government. Thieves.
Buhari is independent and is his own man he can't be swayed. APC is a merger of the former CPC and AD,Buhari had to form an alliance with AD led by Tinubu to wrestle power from PDP. Buhari won't tolerate corruption under his watch,he has'nt changed from 1983 when he arrested over 600 politicians including Kano and Kaduna State Governors and sentenced them to long jail terms.
Re: Like Obasanjo Like Buhari? by Nobody: 4:07pm On Apr 26, 2015
dutchjongen:
Barcanista is a traitor he used to be one of my allies when I was supporting Buhari before the election. He has no principles and speaks from both sides of his mouth.He repulses me and is a straight up coward.

Take heart bro. He's not a traitor anything. Only fools will hold tenaciously to a belief when superior information crawls onto the face.

It's not a barcanista, but against the one who has promised us what He can't perform. ..

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Re: Like Obasanjo Like Buhari? by Nobody: 4:09pm On Apr 26, 2015
dearpreye:


Take heart bro. He's not a traitor anything. Only fools will hold tenaciously to a belief when superior information crawls onto the face.

It's not a barcanista, but against the one who has promised us what He can't perform. ..
[size=14pt]Barcanista[/size] has no principles which information made him switch to GEJ PDP camp the den of robbers with the likes of Chris Uba,Anenih,Omisore etc.He could have should remained neutral than for him to switch to PDP shows he has no prinicples or morals. He even sent me a personal inbox under my former moniker before I left nairaland for a bit about how we should drum up support for Buhari,I feel so pained by his betrayal and lack of integrity

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Re: Like Obasanjo Like Buhari? by Mogidi: 4:11pm On Apr 26, 2015
MzJackBaueress:
I didn't say anything o! You are the one assuming nonsense. Did I tell you I was planning to harm him?

Anyway,[size=15pt]when it happens[/size],make sure you fight for him.

You didn't imply anything yet you retorted "when it happens", why are you so sure something is going to happen to him if you were not privvy to information you're refusing to share with me?
Re: Like Obasanjo Like Buhari? by upsonn(m): 4:11pm On Apr 26, 2015
SeverusSnape:

... What are the "dissimilar things" here?


Obasanjo and Buhari... Both have been in Govt... Leave bias... they are not the same in all aspect.

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Re: Like Obasanjo Like Buhari? by Nobody: 4:14pm On Apr 26, 2015
Keep calm and bookmark this thread. We will laugh at the op a year later. The discredited mercenary is simply earning his keep as noisemaker for the new opposition.
The usual empty and meaningless analysis.

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Re: Like Obasanjo Like Buhari? by MzJackBaueress(f): 4:15pm On Apr 26, 2015
Mogidi:


You didn't imply anything yet you retorted "when it happens", why are you so sure something is going to happen to him if you were not privvy to information you're refusing to share with me?
Moses,what was the useless topic about again?

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