agaugust:


Yes, we have both types, RHA and ERA, nobody ever denied it, the photos are all over the internet.

South Africa has NO SINGLE T-72 tank with ERA ......Nigeria has many !
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Patchesagain:


Low you own us through the most obscure and indirect way possible...

[size=16pt]Problem is: WE DIRECTLY OWN YOU BECAUSE A SOUTH AFRICAN DIRECTLY TRAINED YOUR MOST ELITE UNIT[/b][/size]

agaugust:


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Problem 1: Man is a private military company owner NOT the SANDF....and he is ANC's enemy NOT friend

Problem 2: Most elite unit in Nigeria are Special Forces, Commandos ! Trained overseas and NDA Kaduna ![/size]
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agaugust:


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Problem 2: Most elite unit in Nigeria are Special Forces, Commandos ! Trained overseas and NDA Kaduna ![/size]
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Patchesagain:


According to most sources you have less than 12 T-72's in total.

agaugust:


Nigerian T-72 alone counts almost 100 units
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agaugust:


If I have to teach you South Africans the technical details of your own Gripen jet, then you have bowed to me as a Nigerian military researcher.

Now save yourself that humiliation from me, quickly post the ground search radar range of Gripen jet, please let me not lecture South Africans about their own air force on Nairaland, the Southie who made that Gripen error that I corrected is an SAAF officer on this forum....please save yourselves from the hands of Nigerians, let me not take your air force officers job, it will lead to more xenophobia....
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agaugust:

SIPRI lost count and surrendered.
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agaugust:


The photos of Nigerian T-72 alone counts almost 100 units, mixed RHA and ERA versions.....SIPRI lost count and surrendered.
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Patchesagain:


Tavors and silly scarves dont make men elite or effective

tell us what they have accomplished

agaugust:


Those are NA elite forces, unless a dullard like you think those are regular troops. The 72 strike force uses AK-47, Nigerian SF standard is Travor, and their training is overseas after NDA....PMC do not train Nigerian elite troops. 120 men in the 72 strike force are just a new unit for mobile duty, that does not make them the real elite.....our real Elite are the SF.....they killed Shekau I inside his camp....72 Strike force was not even born then, those guys have only 3 months experience after PMC training.....NA commando elites have been fighting war for over 10 years consistently.....that's the real elite.

You know nothing about what makes an elite force, you think PMC training is the qualification....Olodo
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Patchesagain:


Tavors and silly scarves dont make men elite or effective

tell us what they have accomplished

agaugust:


10 years of war....and killed Shekau I same way US Seals elite killed Osama.

SANDF elite has not killed one Rhino poacher
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Patchesagain:


Nope, you CLAIM that Sipri admits to these innaccuracies.

Anyone can type of fake e-mails on nairaland.

Do you want me to post the E-mail from Obama when he made me a General in the US military? Or the email from Kate Middleton when she asked me to marry her?

Patchesagain:


Strange then that Defenceweb knows that you can only potentially get a maximum of around 50 T-72's.

But I say its 3.

Prove me wrong.

saengine:
Why would a private company be needed to create an entire infantry unit within the Nigerian army? I wonder. Surely there are more than enough officers within Nigeria to do this.

-Nigerians know the enemy better than the private company
-Know the specific terrain better than the company
-Know the people better

Whole unit developed on your own soil, your own back yard. Might as well call it 72 Strike Force Pty (Ltd).

Patchesagain:


So their exploit is that they have been at war for 10 years and the only thing they have done in this 10 year war is kill the same man 3 times?

Patchesagain:


1. Who says he is the enemy of the ANC?
2. He is South African
3. He directly trained your soldiers.

[size=20pt]Conclusion: ACCORDING TO AUGUSTUS SOUTH AFRICA OWNS NIGERIA'S BEST INFANTRY UNIT!![/size]

jln115again:
@Agaugust: SANDF Upgraded T72

Patchesagain:


Pictures and demographics of senior ranks tell a different story.

Sorry for you.

Patchesagain:


When did Nigeria train Zimbabwe?

Shoke was trained in Russia and completed a Brigade Commanders Course making him a senior officer.

This is the fact of the matter.

Henry120:


This is South-Africa's main battle tank. A world war 2 Relic.

A museum piece, nothing to brag about.


Churchill was the Prime-minister when your Tank was built.

Henry120:


That's the thing. 58 from a single source, we also received additional units from belarus and the Ukraine.

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So their exploit is that they have been at war for 10 years and the only thing they have done in this 10 year war is kill the same man 3 times?

Henry120:



The US used military contractors in their War of Independence and had more contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan than it did troops, in fact in every conflict since the Balkans military contractors have made up at least 50% of deployed personnel.

Nigeria hired a Nigerian Security firm (Pilgrims security ltd) to provide specific services which included maintenance and the ground training of troops in the use of recently acquired hardware.

Pilgrims security did not create a new infantry unit, the 72 mobile strike force, is part of the 72 Special forces bn based in markurdi . They aren't a new unit, they maintain a doctrine of relentless pursuit, never hold ground, just pursue the enemy and hit him with overwhelming firepower.

What it means is, the unit has to have dedicated access to MI-35m's, Gazelle Helicopters, Super-Pumas and additional tactics..... some of which have never been previously used.

Henry120:


Pilgrims security is a Nigerian Firm. The Nigerian Government hired a Nigerian firm to provide specific services.

There's no evidence that the government of Nigeria hired South-Africans.

The 72 mobile strike force isn't Nigeria's most elite unit, it isn't even a Special forces unit. It is a SOF unit.

Nigerian Army Special forces is the army's special forces unit.

The Navy Special boat service is Navy's Special forces unit.

The Airforce QRF is the unit for the Airforce.

The DSS Spec Ops unit, are the S.F of the DSS.

The 72 strike for are only a Highly mobile unit, similar to the 75th Ranger Regiment.

saengine:


Situation seemed sorted. Unit already existed. Tactics already existed. Hmmm

In the words of former EO's man Eeben Barlow...."we built it from scratch"

FighterPilot:


Your head must be very confused and suffering from a serious brain damage. Pilgrims was established by South African in Nigeria as allowed to do so by Nigerian government. The owner then recruited South Africans majority of which were based in Iraq and some from South Africa.

Don't try to play dumb because your government admitted by words taken from your number one citizen that it has hired PMCs from SA. What of Leon Lotz?

jln115again:

Citation please!