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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:37pm On Apr 29, 2015
agaugust:



Nigeria has over 100 T-72 tanks already, about 200 will be total final numbers.

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What evidence do you have to support these claims?

Your own citation says 56.

I say you only have 4.

Prove me wrong.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:43pm On Apr 29, 2015
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jln115again:


More than 150 MK 1b Olifant tanks have been produced.


Citation fvcking needed urgently !!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:51pm On Apr 29, 2015
Patchesagain:


"Its true because I say so"

Face it, your SOF/SF have no notable operations in over 10 years of war.

SF ops are secret all over the world. You don't have the military knowledge to know that fact.

Only few important SF achievements are published.

Nigerian SF and US Navy Seals SF both have world record of killing top ranked enemy leadership in surgical strikes. South Africa has no such achievement in your history.....you failed to nail one single enemy leader in surgical strike.

Nigerian SBS is 10 years old. NA commandos are as old as our army. Our SF have been in every war we fought
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:52pm On Apr 29, 2015
Patchesagain:


Olifant Mk2 is a match for your T-72

Your T-72 has a bigger gun, but that is all.


Bigger gun bigger explosive ammunition bigger firepower bigger killing power....Naija T-72 will eat up SANDF tanks like indomie noodles
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:56pm On Apr 29, 2015
Patchesagain:


Look at their ranks.

Those are all senior NCO's and Officers.

Not infantry.


SANDF does not have infantry NCOs and COs that lead your file troops/privates into dismounted infantry battles ?

LOL grin grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 1:57pm On Apr 29, 2015
agaugust:


Bigger gun bigger explosive ammunition bigger firepower bigger killing power....Naija T-72 will eat up SANDF tanks like indomie noodles
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Mr Barlow will not be there to pick up the pieces which your T72 tanks will be undergoing. Do you even forget SA modify T72 tanks and they know every weak points in every way of T72s.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:59pm On Apr 29, 2015
Patchesagain:


You trained one man how to fly.


Nigeria trained deputy chief of staff of South African airforce in Nigerian aviation school, we built his foundation, without us he will NEVER fly an aircraft....Nigeria trains South African military top leaders of General ranks, not sergeants, we train your military Generals, we own you o !
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 2:00pm On Apr 29, 2015
agaugust:


SF ops are secret all over the world. You don't have the military knowledge to know that fact.

Only few important SF achievements are published.

Nigerian SF and US Navy Seals SF both have world record of killing top ranked enemy leadership in surgical strikes. South Africa has no such achievement in your history.....you failed to nail one single enemy leader in surgical strike.

Nigerian SBS is 10 years old. NA commandos are as old as our army. Our SF have been in every war we fought
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You must thank Mr Barlow then because what your elite forces could achieve was only restricted to his standard. I wonder if Mr Barlow's tactics will work against his masters who schooled him about military.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 2:04pm On Apr 29, 2015
agaugust:


Nigeria trained deputy chief of staff of South African airforce in Nigerian aviation school, we built his foundation, without us he will NEVER fly an aircraft....Nigeria trains South African military top leaders of General ranks, not sergeants, we train your military Generals, we own you o !
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All MK members were retrained by SANDF because their knowledge of military was only limited to African countries guerilla tactics. However, most of them complained that they were not trained up to standard and as a result Russia had to train them all over again. Surely, by now all MK members who were trained by Nigeria undermined their training so much after comparing their training with what they have learned from SANDF
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:07pm On Apr 29, 2015
Patchesagain:


38 Mk1A/B
26 Mk2
131 composed of Mk1/Mk1A/B in storage

The Mk1 is completely different from the Centurion

And, FYI, Isrealy Centurions did just fine against Egyptian T-72s in the 6 Day war


6 Day War is a 1967 battle. T-72 tank is a 1973 tank .....Bwahahaha grin grin

Patches desperate and posting anointed fraud as usual !

Israel NEVER fought Egyptian T-72 tanks, NEVER !

SANDF has only 26 Olifants with Passive armour ONLY in some parts of the tank, partial composite, not full.

The other 177 SANDF Olifant tanks are old world war II capacity basic steel armour, Nigerian T-72 tank with ERA will eat all your 203 tanks grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:09pm On Apr 29, 2015
agaugust:


SF ops are secret all over the world. You don't have the military knowledge to know that fact.

Only few important SF achievements are published.

Nigerian SF and US Navy Seals SF both have world record of killing top ranked enemy leadership in surgical strikes. South Africa has no such achievement in your history.....you failed to nail one single enemy leader in surgical strike.

Nigerian SBS is 10 years old. NA commandos are as old as our army. Our SF have been in every war we fought
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So your only accomplishment in 10 years of war is to kill the same guy 3 times?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:09pm On Apr 29, 2015
agaugust:


Bigger gun bigger explosive ammunition bigger firepower bigger killing power....Naija T-72 will eat up SANDF tanks like indomie noodles
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Gun is irrelevant if you cant see or hit what you are shooting at
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:11pm On Apr 29, 2015
agaugust:


SANDF does not have infantry NCOs and COs that lead your file troops/privates into dismounted infantry battles ?

LOL grin grin

Read the ranks of those old white men, the lowest ranked amongst them is a Staff sergeant
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:11pm On Apr 29, 2015
agaugust:


Nigeria trained deputy chief of staff of South African airforce in Nigerian aviation school, we built his foundation, without us he will NEVER fly an aircraft....Nigeria trains South African military top leaders of General ranks, not sergeants, we train your military Generals, we own you o !
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So you taught a man how to fly?

You didnt teach him anything military?

So, how then is this relevant to a military career?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:13pm On Apr 29, 2015
Patchesagain:


Olifant has composite armor.

Brah, you wanna talk tanks? Tanks are my forte.

I am good with every military topic from rifle to jet fighter. I don't care what your forte is or is not.

Only 26 SANDF Olifant tanks have some parts of composite armour, all the other 177 tanks are basic old style steel that Boko Haram can demolish with ordinary RPG HEAT fired by one lone terrorsit.

Nigeria has over 100 T-72 tanks now, will be 200 when fully delivered.....we still have over 100 Vickers tanks in service.

Nigeria will have one of the biggest 5 tank forces in Africa
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:16pm On Apr 29, 2015
agaugust:


SANDF has only 26 Olifants with Passive armour ONLY in some parts of the tank, partial composite, not full.

The other 177 SANDF Olifant tanks are old world war II capacity basic steel armour, Nigerian T-72 tank with ERA will eat all your 203 tanks grin
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All 64 Olifants of the Mk1B and Mk2 standard have composite armor while the turrets have reactive armor.

The glacis plate and nose of the hull have been upgraded with the addition of passive armour and the turret has been fitted with stand-off armour. The installation of a double-armour floor gives the crew additional protection against mines. The running gear is protected against HEAT missiles by new sideskirts.
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/olifant/

So yet again, you talk about that which you know nothing about.

And multiple T-72s with no-no-no era have been posted.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:18pm On Apr 29, 2015
agaugust:

I am good with every military topic from rifle to jet fighter.

Only 26 SANDF Olifant tanks have some parts of composite armour, all the other 177 tanks are basic old style steel that Boko Haram can demolish with ordinary RPG HEAT fired by one lone terrorsit.

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[size=20pt]All 64 Olifants of Mk1 status and above have composit armor on the hulls and reactive armor on the turret[/size]
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/olifant/

So you obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

The remaining 177 MBT's can be upgraded if they are needed in service.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:19pm On Apr 29, 2015
agaugust:



Nigeria has over 100 T-72 tanks now, will be 200 when fully delivered.
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Who says 100?

Who says an order of 200?

You liar.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:19pm On Apr 29, 2015
Patchesagain:


Thank you for proving that you do not have 100 T-72's!!

You have committed suicide!!

Actually I slaughtered y.ou in grand style....you said Nigeria has less than 12 T-72 tanks....I proved one source alone shows we have 58 T-72 M1 variant.....that's how we slaughter Patrick here....cut ya throat grin grin

Add the T-72 AV variants that appear all over war zone in hundreds of photos, videos and many dozens of towns.....Nigerian T-72 are now over 100 units....go hug electric power transformer if it hurts your butt grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:21pm On Apr 29, 2015
agaugust:


Actually I slaughtered y.ou in grand style....you said Nigeria has less than 12 T-72 tanks....I proved one source alone shows we have 58 T-72 M1 variant.....that's how we slaughter Patrick here....cut ya throat grin grin

Add the T-72 AV variants that appear all over war zone in hundreds of photos, videos and many dozens of towns.....Nigerian T-72 are now over 100 units....go hug electric power transformer if it hurts your butt grin grin
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No, your source says the company selling them to you has 58 T-72's.

"Czech company Excalibur Group, led by a former armorer Pavel Strnad, managed to acquire as many as 58 T-72 tanks (T-72M1 variant) from Hungary to sell them – with other heavy military equipment – to the army of Nigeria , locked in a savage conflict with Boko Haram."

http://ftr.wot-news.com/2015/02/01/czechs-sell-tanks-to-nigeria-to-fight-boko-haram/

So... you will be receiving 56 T-72s. Not that you have them... but that EVENTUALLY you will have 56.

Now... show us proof for the 100 you claim.

Liar.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:22pm On Apr 29, 2015
jln115again:


We have over 150 with Composite Armor , the only difference between the MK2 and MK1B is their FCS's


That's a lie from the pit of H.ell ....... Citation needed
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:23pm On Apr 29, 2015
agaugust:


That's a lie from the pit of H.ell ....... Citation needed
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Olifant Mk1B has both composit and reactive armor
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/olifant/


All SANDF Olifants are of the Mk1A standard at the least

The SA Army currently owns up to 266 of the tanks in five variants: the Mk2, Mk1B and Mk1A MBT
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=15953:new-rims-for-the-olifant-mbt-&catid=50:Land&Itemid=105

That is the only MBT we have.

Now the "military researcher" is being educated in a grand fashion
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 2:28pm On Apr 29, 2015
The olifant tank tank self protection kit.

[i]SELF-PROTECTION.
The glacis plate and nose of the hull have been upgraded with the addition of passive armour and the turret has been fitted with stand- off armour. The installation of a double-armour floor gives the crew additional protection against mines. The running gear is protected against HEAT missiles by new sideskirts. A smoke screen can be laid by a fuel injection system in the engine's exhaust. A fire detection and suppression system improves the level of survivability.[i]
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:30pm On Apr 29, 2015
Patchesagain:


Mercenaries trained your men, flew your gazelles and hinds and co-ordinated your war


Show me South Africans co-ordinating Nigerian war.

All we see are Nigerian army generals in war planning and field command, directly leading our troops face to face with Boko Haram.

We see Nigerian Napoleons coordinating everything called battle....show us your South Africans coordinating battle grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:31pm On Apr 29, 2015
agaugust:


Show me South Africans co-ordinating Nigerian war.

All we see are Nigerian army generals in war planning and field command, directly leading our troops face to face with Boko Haram.

We see Nigerian Napoleons coordinating everything called battle....show us your South Africans coordinating battle grin grin
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Dont have to.

Their presence is well documented
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:42pm On Apr 29, 2015
Patchesagain:



[size=16pt]Not 16 TYPES of vehical... 16 other individual vehicals!!


Bwa-ahahahah!! you insult others about literacy yet you expose your own lack of literacy in the same post!! Now that is IRONY! [/size]

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Quote where I ever said "16 TYPES of vehicles"....I have not used the word TYPE in any of my comments today.

So show me where I said it.

""Czech company Excalibur Group, led by a former armorer Pavel Strnad, managed to acquire as many as 58 T-72 tanks (T-72M1 variant) from Hungary to sell them – with other heavy military equipment – to the army of Nigeria , locked in a savage conflict with Boko Haram."

http://ftr.wot-news.com/2015/02/01/czechs-sell-tanks-to-nigeria-to-fight-boko-haram/


Anyway, we have proved the point beyond doubt, 58 T-72 tanks from Hungary by Czech company for sale to Nigeria.....not South Africa....Nigeria....bought for sale to Nigeria.

Your wings have been clipped with chains again today....we bring you down from the tree top to the pit hole grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:46pm On Apr 29, 2015
FighterPilot:



Now we know that Nigerian military can only fight up to Mr Barlow standard just like every Nation that Mr Barlow has traine

http://eebenbarlowsmilitaryandsecurityblog..com/2015/04/feeding-narrative_25.html?m=1

Your above source is a blog.....mere blog.

Can we also use Beegeagle blog as source from now on ?

Barlow trained 120 Nigerian privates, corporals, sergeants.

There are about 150,000 troops in Nigerian army including thousands of captains, majors, lieutenants, generals, whom Barlow has never seen before in his life.

Nigeria trained SAAF air force deputy chief of satff .....your own boss who leads other SANDF air force generals and officers/men grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:52pm On Apr 29, 2015
agaugust:


Citation needed....now !!




Nope, South African education is a failure even for you a white man grin grin

You say 16 vehicles including T-72 tanks. The source you are reading says T-72 tanks and 16 other types of vehicles.

You see what your 'Top Ranking' South African education can do to disgrace your country? Zimbabwean brains are superior to South Africans' .

"The Czech arms dealer Excalibur Group will deliver modernized Soviet-made tanks T-72 M1 and 16 other vehicles ."

"Czech company Excalibur Group, led by a former armorer Pavel Strnad, managed to acquire as many as 58 T-72 tanks (T-72M1 variant) from Hungary to sell them – with other heavy military equipment – to the army of Nigeria , locked in a savage conflict with Boko Haram."

http://ftr.wot-news.com/2015/02/01/czechs-sell-tanks-to-nigeria-to-fight-boko-haram/

http://www.praguepost.com/the-big-story/44075-nigeria-buys-czech-weapons-to-fight-boko-haram

Now you see why I usually refuse to re-post old sources for you and insist you go back and search it out yourself from the archives? It's because I discovered that you are not worth the waste of time.....even when we give you sources, you still cannot read and understand simple English language....then all the efforts to prove things to you, becomes a waste of time and energy even with clear evidence and sources.


South African brains cannot read and understand a simple short comprehension passage....worst schools in Africa grin grin

Nigeria has over 100 T-72 tanks already, about 200 will be total final numbers.

CASE CLOSED shocked shocked
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"16 vehicles in total get to be transported to Nigeria in the largest transport airplane currently in use, Antonov An-225."

http://ftr.wot-news.com/2015/02/01/czechs-sell-tanks-to-nigeria-to-fight-boko-haram/

Now stop wasting my time!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:52pm On Apr 29, 2015
Patchesagain:


What evidence do you have to support these claims?

Your own citation says 56.

I say you only have 4.

Prove me wrong.

I did, so many time repeated in the past 12 hours.

So, let me rub it like hot pepper in your ugly Southy face again....58 T-72 M1 tanks without adding the Ukrainian/Belarus T-72 AV purchases.

"Czech company Excalibur Group, led by a former armorer Pavel Strnad, managed to acquire as many as 58 T-72 tanks (T-72M1 variant) from Hungary to sell them – with other heavy military equipment – to the army of Nigeria , locked in a savage conflict with Boko Haram."

http://ftr.wot-news.com/2015/02/01/czechs-sell-tanks-to-nigeria-to-fight-boko-haram/


grin grin grin grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:54pm On Apr 29, 2015
FighterPilot:


Mr Barlow will not be there to pick up the pieces which your T72 tanks will be undergoing. Do you even forget SA modify T72 tanks and they know every weak points in every way of T72s.

South Africa has NEVER encountered or modified a T-72 tank that has ERA armour....you only touched an old school RHA type of T-72 grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:57pm On Apr 29, 2015
Patchesagain:


Read the ranks of those old white men, the lowest ranked amongst them is a Staff sergeant


I asked, who leads SANDF infantry privates into battlefield, your privates lead privates into enemy engagements ?

You are trapped again by your own fraud grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:59pm On Apr 29, 2015
agaugust:
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Citation fvcking needed urgently !!

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http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/coldwar/South_Africa/Olifant_MkI.php

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