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Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by 989900: 5:56pm On Apr 29, 2015 |
SirShymexx: Those are quotes, no need to twist, or doctor the old man's words. It's straight forward enough. I could use "Yes, Nigeria stood by us more than any nation", and "You know I hear from Angolans and Mozambicans and Zimbabweans how your people opened their hearts and their homes to them. I was in prison then, but we know how your leaders punished western companies who supported apartheid." If I'm trying to be one-sided. Like always, I try to as unbiased as possible. Summary of the interview is (excluding all comprehension issues): Like we all do, the old man recognizes Nigeria's huge issues with corruption, which is strangling the country, While at the same time recognizing Nigeria's huge/unrivaled role in their struggle with apartheid. P.S. Going to prison didn't render him deaf, blind and dumb. Even a kid given birth to today, can in 15-25 years, know the history of all the countries in the world if he studies about them. It's about learning. 2 Likes |
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by LeSudAfricaine: 5:56pm On Apr 29, 2015 |
kodded:Firstly, you reason like a child, secondly, if it's in the internet, it ceases to be Nigerian, INTER +NETWORK =INTERNET, get it dumbo? And Oh, you don't this forum, so you can go to hell!....Oh I forgot you're already there! Ha ha ha! 1 Like |
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by Nobody: 5:57pm On Apr 29, 2015 |
iamord: Nigeria does NOT deserve to be in that list. 1 Like |
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by LeSudAfricaine: 5:58pm On Apr 29, 2015 |
simplemach:If you gonna call people nasty names, make sure you're able to spell them..It's that simple 1 Like |
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by 989900: 5:59pm On Apr 29, 2015 |
bakynes: #comprehensionissues ![]() |
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by SirShymexx: 6:00pm On Apr 29, 2015 |
bakynes: This is just paradoxical cos you just exposed ya illiteracy. Did you read the full sentence, and not just the first bit? When you can read full sentences, you'll see what carrot and stick is. Mandela was in prison, locked up on an Island when the struggle gained momentum - he wasn't privy to much. Anyway, when you start opening history books, you'll be shocked with ya mouth wide open, after seeing how Nigeria messed up. 1 Like |
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by Fourwinds: 6:01pm On Apr 29, 2015 |
Samirana360:go and check countries with reputation., dey have dese qualities.: low corruption rate., strong and stable currency., military expedicture., quality leadership.,viable economy., treat citizens with almost respect.,very patriotic., to list a few. please tell me how many does Nigeria possesses. d likes of USA., Britain.,China.,Japan., Russia.,France.,Israel.,Saudi Arabia.,Taiwan.,South Korea and many more have some of dese if not all. Such contries display authority.FYI I am a Nigerian |
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by 989900: 6:02pm On Apr 29, 2015 |
Headlamp1: Don't let your emotions cloud your judgement. Read to understand . . . it sure helps. |
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by DeRay98(m): 6:03pm On Apr 29, 2015 |
chronique: You spoke my mind. Its high time we stopped playing "big brother" wey den no send us. Wasting our resources only for those our wealth were spent on to back stab us when they get opportunity. One day the likes of Liberia, Sierra Leone will do same. |
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by bakynes(m): 6:04pm On Apr 29, 2015 |
989900:It beats my imagination my brother clear for him to see and he is still arguing. 1 Like |
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by Nobody: 6:04pm On Apr 29, 2015 |
LeSudAfricaine: If I may ask you, what is the general opinion of the South Africans towards Nigeria as regards the apartheid struggle and what is your own personal opinion? |
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by iamord(m): 6:04pm On Apr 29, 2015 |
bakynes:this is the mistake alot of u make. U only picked out the part Nigeria was credited. But the other part were left out. The left out part is what Nigeria has been lacking ever since. And robbing you of opportunities |
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by 989900: 6:05pm On Apr 29, 2015 |
SirShymexx: All you've said is='Mandela is senile, just believe what I tell you . . . lol'. |
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by oyetunder(m): 6:05pm On Apr 29, 2015 |
But why do people expect so much from South Africans? Hmm. The fact that few South African Whites succeeded in dominating and subduing them even till late 20th century testified to the kind of people they are. Nigerians should not be bothered at all about their ungratefulness, they are already reaping it. South Africa economy is collapsing in the hands of blacks, by the time they chase foreigners aways, then they shall have themselves to blame. Soon, they are going to beg the whites to take over from them. 2 Likes |
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by OXYGEN011: 6:06pm On Apr 29, 2015 |
Ipledge:You heard? Ok I also heard Osama Bin ladin is Obama's brother. 3 Likes |
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by iamord(m): 6:07pm On Apr 29, 2015 |
Headlamp1:well if u say so. The words of Mandela should not be taken lightly. Nigerians have been lovers of praise for too long. It's time to be humble and order your steps. |
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by LeSudAfricaine: 6:10pm On Apr 29, 2015 |
Headlamp1:That a whole lot of African States including Nigeria and also overseas countries helped in dismantling the apartheid regime |
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by mrham03(m): 6:11pm On Apr 29, 2015 |
iamord:the problem is trust. Ecowas countries are trust eachother, they would rather trade with european and asian countries than their own west african countries. Then again an ecowas country like nigeria is a bully, they dont open their market to othe r countries from west africa but they flood other ecowas countries with their products. 1 Like |
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by Samirana360(m): 6:13pm On Apr 29, 2015 |
Fourwinds:Buh u didn't mention any african country...man we ar talkin abt africa here nt d world in general....I didn't say we ar giant of d world....let's discover africa |
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by Meti99(m): 6:13pm On Apr 29, 2015 |
bakynes: . |
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by chedza: 6:15pm On Apr 29, 2015 |
You earn respect, you don't demand it if you where not recognised by all the movements listed it means you did not do anything for them or they can't remember your assistance. It's not the government it's liberation movements that credited those countries, so chill 1 Like |
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by Cue(m): 6:26pm On Apr 29, 2015 |
0m0naija:Even at that they still mistakenly said Namibia, instead of Nigeria, spent $61 billion. Arse.holes |
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by kenex4ever(m): 6:28pm On Apr 29, 2015 |
LeSudAfricaine:this nitwit typing these things n replying everybody may b one "large headed n bald" tiny legged southafrican (because datz d way all dia males look. Fuckkkkeeeen ingrates! 1 Like |
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by SirShymexx: 6:30pm On Apr 29, 2015 |
989900: Lol. It's difficult to explain depth/nuances in expression to vacuous/shallow people. It's just basically like trying to explain life to adolescents...you can't really say much than tell them what they want to hear. I believe that's applicable to ya case. ![]() |
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by 50calibre(m): 6:33pm On Apr 29, 2015 |
SirShymexx: Lol can you cite me one of those academic sources? Obviously, Nigeria couldn't have granted asylum to every single anti-apartheid activist, Nigeria was just one of the frontline states, there were other countries as well. The frontline countries provided support in various capacities be it training, logistics, diplomatic or financial support. As for the source pictured, that's nothing but mere skepticism/speculation from one Ann Genova, it is not fact but journalistic cynicism and it is never to be taken ahead of the official story from the Nigerian government except there's solid evidence to prove other ulterior motives. As for Margaret Thatcher imposing visa requirements, maybe you're right, that may be been the official reason that was given, so I can't argue on that without any counter evidence however some would say the timing leaves more to be answered. History cannot be white-washed, if countries like Lesotho & Tanzania can be on the list, then Nigeria double-deserves a mention. The list even includes Britain (who actually supported the apartheid regime) proving its nothing but a sham and nonsensical list. Nigerians are cocky, arrogant and even delusional but the truth remains the truth.. And this is one of those cases where sadly, fabricated history cannot replace irrefutable facts. http://nigeriaworld.com/articles/2008/may/261.html http://www.safpi.org/news/article/2013/south-africa-needs-appreciate-nigeria-s-role-ending-apartheid http://www.citypress.co.za/columnists/mandela-memorial-nigeria-left/ 2 Likes
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Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by Wislet(f): 6:37pm On Apr 29, 2015 |
MY PEOPLE, LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY........ STOP GIVING SOUTH AFRICA OR ANY COUNTRY THAT DECIDES TO HATE ON THIS COUNTRY UNNECESSARY ATTENTION. Our attention, observations, analyses and recommendations are needed right here IN THE COUNTRY. STOP WASTING IT OUTSIDE. OKAY. NIGERIA DID NOT CONTRIBUTE IN ANY WAY TO THE FIGHT AGAINST APARTHEID. And so? Does it make us any less a nation, or is it going to affect our economy, or make our roads not be built, or create unemployment, or get you out of job, or make you not get visa to travel, or keep you unmarried, or deny you visa to travel, or make you not get that job, or buy that house? Exactly what is it going to remove from our lives? Nigeria has tried a lot for Africa. IT IS TIME WE CHANNEL OUR FULL ATTENTION, MONEY AND TALENTS TO DEVELOPING THE COUNTRY AND CHANGE OUR OWN LIVES. I honestly do not see the reason why anyone will frown, or shout or even curse them. It takes nothing away from you. FOCUS ON YOURSELF, QUIT ETHNIC BIGOTRY AND APPLAUDING OF HOOLIGANISM, AND LET'S SEND CROOKS TO WHERE THEY BELONG. Nigeria must soar. 2 Likes |
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by bigass123(m): 6:38pm On Apr 29, 2015 |
size=15][b] A Yoruba adage says "ijà ilara kii tan boro" ...which simply means the fight for supremacy is a bitter one and hardly has no end. This implies that SA sees Nigeria has a bigger rival and don't want to ever admit that we're better than they are. But if you ask me, you can't blame them.. you claim say you get money pass me, you're the richest in the community and yet my children are living far more comfortably than urs and they are happy. My house is far more organised compared to yours. Even though you get money pass me, I live a better life than you and yet you're asking me to prostate and greet and recognize you as my superior. Isn't that claim easily contestable.. judging from the fact that I put my meagre resources into better use than you. Let our leaders perform and S.A will be forced to call you MASTER . However, history will judge S.A for failing to recognize our efforts in their Apartheid struggle... even though our house isn't in order. Credits MUST be given for standing by them and giving our support. [/b][/size] 1 Like |
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by emmatok(m): 6:42pm On Apr 29, 2015 |
SirShymexx: Let's say the truth, the support Nigeria gave SA during the crisis was covert. And were not internationlly recognized. Remember the Nigeria military regime was not in good terms with the west, and the human rights activists were giving us bad image. So our efforts were not properly documented. |
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by SirShymexx: 6:45pm On Apr 29, 2015 |
50calibre: Brev, those aren't academic sources - those are Nigerian propaganda sources based on the lies the Nigerian government told the Nigerian people. - The first one cited $61 billion. Where did Nigeria get $61 billion from to expend on another country? The highest Nigerian budget ever for a year, in the history of Nigeria, isn't up to $40 billion - that was at the peak of oil prices, when they were extremely/ridiculously high. Heck, even if they were to sell all of Nigeria's stakes in its oil industry - I doubt Nigeria will get $61 billion back for everything. ![]() That number is just ridiculous and an outright lie. And that's enough to question the validity of the claim. - The second source is wikipedia - that is not an academic source. Anyone can go on wiki to post anything there. Okay, let's accept it as an academic source: who were these people? The names of the faces of the struggle are out here - how many of them were exiled in Nigeria? Can you list them? The academic source, by Ann Genova, in which I provided isn't just some propaganda tool - that's a journal by an academic from Boston University. And a well researched scholarship/journal about African historical studies. Link here for you: http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/25741399?uid=3738032&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21106636130833 Reference: Nigeria's Nationalization of British Petroleum - Ann Genova The International Journal of African Historical Studies Vol. 43, No. 1 (2010), pp. 115-136 Published by: Boston University African Studies Center 2 Likes |
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by emmatok(m): 6:45pm On Apr 29, 2015 |
Wislet: The Irony is that our leaders will be the ones taking the Nigerian looted money to SA. Its the poor that makes noise in Nigeria, the rich simply go against the rules. |
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by bigass123(m): 6:47pm On Apr 29, 2015 |
size=15][b] A Yoruba adage says "ijà ilara kii tan boro" ...which simply means the fight for supremacy is a bitter one and hardly has an end. This implies that SA sees Nigeria has an arch rival and don't want to ever admit that we're better or bigger than they are. But if you ask me, you can't blame them.. you claim say you get money pass me, you're the richest in the community and yet my children are living far more comfortably than urs and they are happy. My house is far more organised compared to yours. Even though you get money pass me, I live a better life than you do and yet you're asking me to prostate and greet and recognize you as my superior. Isn't that claim easily contestable.. judging from the fact that I put my small resources into better use than you. Let our leaders learn and perform and S.A will be forced to call you MASTER . However, history will judge S.A for failing to recognize our efforts in their Apartheid struggle... even though our house isn't in order. Credits MUST be given for standing by them and giving our support. [/b][/size] Ipledge: |
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