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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Abuye: 7:23pm On Apr 29, 2015
mzilakazi:


Wrong (X) it is always Nigerians who are always obsessed with South Africa because every time I google the word " South Africa" nairaland appears.

they hate competition with countries like ghana yet they compete with south africans smh
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 9:45pm On Apr 29, 2015
Henry120:


You r3tard!!

The Afrikanners are also your colonial masters by your tactic admission. Hence, your government's policy to grab assets through the BEE farce.

You blacks were busy chorusing "yes messar" and serving tea, that was where you were.

21 years in Power, yet you still need to depend on affirmative action to setup a store, goes to show how mentally handicapped you lot are.

21 years in power, yet you m0rons still are claiming previously disadvantaged...... Smh!



Get off your a$ses and try build something, stop depending on BEE you mentally lazy fvcktards.

Foool, Afrikaners are not colonial masters, they are settlers. Instead of colonising they came to settle down with the locals. They fought the British in Anglo-boer war and defeated the British and lost in the second Boer war. SA was colonised by Britain for only few years from which it gained independence from Britain in 1910, that was 50 years before Nigeria could gain independence from Britain.

Don't confuse apartheid with colonisation. The two terms are very different.

Fast forwarding to BEE. I will suggest you stop making a mockery of yourself because you don't understand what is it for and what does it want to achieve. Black South Africans were discouraged to partake on economic activities by the former regime, the same way African Americans were treated by their white counterpart. The affirmative action had to come to play to address inequality, poverty and unemployment of previously disadvantaged individuals. Of course, black South Africans, Indians and coloureds have to make use of it and reap the rewards of the seeds planted by Nelson Mandela. BEE is only the vehicle the government must use to empower black people and that's why we are voting this government.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by osystein(m): 10:41pm On Apr 29, 2015
okay, back to military.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:20pm On Apr 29, 2015
MulaahEG:


I feel sorry for the Nigerians on this Blog. But sorry the South Africans is Bleep$ng you. Pls don't compare your military with theirs, you know and the rest of the world knows they are light years ahead of your military. They might even be beter then us here up North


Dude you @MulaahEG is not a North African, you are a pure South African, your monicker-account user login ID was created today after two South Africans got banned for probably insulting Nigerians because we pinned sharp needles inside your over-bloated SANDF military balloons.

You Southies lack the courage to take so much Nairaland beating from Nigerians, you would rather have an European beat you up the way we Niajas do....but destiny has put your whiplash horsewhip in our able black hands....and we shall continue to use it on you tongue tongue
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:22pm On Apr 29, 2015
Henry120:


Exactly, you South-African blacks are not smart enough to plan more than a year. You wanna reap of the massers crumbs?

Petty xenophobes...... go build a company, it's not that difficult if you can just think.

Truth with needles and nails attached to it... hurts grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:23pm On Apr 29, 2015
Henry120:

So the Afrikanners are your colonial masters...... Point taken.

Nigerian companies are totally dominant in Nigeria's oil sector. We didn't steal assets from Shell,total, chevron or any other multinational player.

We built Afren, Seplat, Famfa, Oando, nestoil, NNPC, Sapetro, Conoil etc etc from scratch.

Why can't you black south-african dullards do same?

Genetic Southie brain deformity
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:44pm On Apr 29, 2015
French soldiers accused of raping and abusing refugee children in CAR in exchange for food


Quote:
French soldiers accused of raping and abusing refugee children in Central African Republic in exchange for food in 'leaked UN report'

French soldiers working as peacekeepers for the UN in the Central African Republic have been accused of raping and abusing desperately poor young children in exchange for food.

According to an alleged internal report seen by The Guardian entitled Sexual Abuse on Children by International Armed Forces, children told human rights investigators they were sexually exploited, including rape and sodomy, in the capital Bangui in early 2014.

One nine-year-old boy reportedly described how French soldiers at a camp for internally displaced people forced him and his friend to perform a sex act when they went to look for food.

The leaking of the alleged report via the advocacy group Aids Free World comes as the UN Security Council approved maintaining the international force in the Central African Republic for another year.

In March it approved measures to provide an additional 1,000 personnel to the 12,000-strong peacekeeping force, which has been tasked with protecting the most vulnerable since it was set up in late 2013 following an unprecedented surge in violence between Christians and Muslims.

But besides the potential implications in the country for the report on abused children, it also threatens to cause a diplomatic row in Europe after a senior UN aid worker was suspended for allegedly passing it on to the French authorities.

Anders Kompass, a Swedish international, has been told “it was his duty to know and comply” with UN protocols that meant the report should have remained confidential, the Guardian reported.

An investigation by the French into allegations “of a very serious nature” is reportedly under way in the Central African Republic, while a spokesperson for the UN Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights confirmed to The Guardian that a probe into “the leaking of confidential information by a staff member” was ongoing.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-10213197.html
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:42am On Apr 30, 2015
Abuye:


Proof that is Nigeria T-72 tanks bunch of liars

Another m0ron in South Africa opened new user account to hide is person grin

No, those Lagos seaport tanks are not Nigerian T-72, they belong to you personally, all the Nigerian soldiers in army uniform with Nigerian flag and name tags guarding the tanks and ship are actually your cousins bringing the tanks to you at home so you can drive T-72 to work and use them to drop your kids off at school daily....M0RON grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:54am On Apr 30, 2015
agaugust:


[size=16pt]

Quote where I ever said "16 TYPES of vehicles"....I have not used the word TYPE in any of my comments today.

So show me where I said it.

""Czech company Excalibur Group, led by a former armorer Pavel Strnad, managed to acquire as many as 58 T-72 tanks (T-72M1 variant) from Hungary to sell them – with other heavy military equipment – to the army of Nigeria , locked in a savage conflict with Boko Haram."

http://ftr.wot-news.com/2015/02/01/czechs-sell-tanks-to-nigeria-to-fight-boko-haram/

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Anyway, we have proved the point beyond doubt, 58 T-72 tanks from Hungary by Czech company for sale to Nigeria.....not South Africa....Nigeria....bought for sale to Nigeria.

Your wings have been clipped with chains again today....we bring you down from the tree top to the pit hole grin grin[/s]
.[/size]

You proved your illiteracy right here:

agaugust:

You say 16 vehicles including T-72 tanks. The source you are reading says T-72 tanks and 16 other types of vehicles.

My wings have been clipped?

Am I the one claiming 200 T-72's?

You have destroyed your own argument... i baited you into posting your source... and your source said 56 (Which i allready knew) thus permanently proving your lies

In an argument dont ask questions you dont know the answer to.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:55am On Apr 30, 2015
agaugust:


I did, so many time repeated in the past 12 hours.

So, let me rub it like hot pepper in your ugly Southy face again....58 T-72 M1 tanks without adding the Ukrainian/Belarus T-72 AV purchases.

"Czech company Excalibur Group, led by a former armorer Pavel Strnad, managed to acquire as many as 58 T-72 tanks (T-72M1 variant) from Hungary to sell them – with other heavy military equipment – to the army of Nigeria , locked in a savage conflict with Boko Haram."

http://ftr.wot-news.com/2015/02/01/czechs-sell-tanks-to-nigeria-to-fight-boko-haram/


grin grin grin grin

What Ukranian/Belarus T-72AVs?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:55am On Apr 30, 2015
agaugust:


South Africa has NEVER encountered or modified a T-72 tank that has ERA armour....you only touched an old school RHA type of T-72 grin grin
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ERA is incredibly simple.

You are fixating on the armor and missing the point of that T-72
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:57am On Apr 30, 2015
agaugust:


I asked, who leads SANDF infantry privates into battlefield, your privates lead privates into enemy engagements ?

You are trapped again by your own fraud grin grin
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What fraud?

Senior officers lead junior officers, junior officers lead junior NCO's and junior NCO's lead the ranks.

Just like every army in the world.

What I have exposed in your is that you who claims to be a military researcher cannot tell an officer or senior NCO apart from a regular infantryman.... just like you thought a snorkel on a T-72 was an ATGM launcher grin grin grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:59am On Apr 30, 2015
agaugust:


Oh really ! So, proving you wrong becomes a waste of your time....LOL....sweet grin grin

16 heavy in one aircraft....you wanted 58 tanks to fit one aircraft ! LOL....mumu South African.

58 tanks for sale to Nigeria along with 16 other vehicles....total is 58 + 16 = 74 units.

First shipment of 16 assorted vehicles flown by air in one aircraft.

58 more by another aircraft or by shipped by sea....you are a school drop-out based on how you think or cannot think grin grin

Let me rub some pepper soup in your face....see more T-72 tanks arriving by ship....not aircraft....into Nigerian seaport in Lagos...Mumu...

shocked shocked shocked shocked
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SO you cant read at all?

You source says a total of 58 tanks.

Do you know the meaning of that word?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:02am On Apr 30, 2015
agaugust:


[size=13pt]Bwhahahahaha grin grin grin grin

I love your weblink....I love y.our suicide bros !

Your own source proved you are a fraud....SANDF has only 26 units of Olifant tanks with partial composite armour.

All your other over 177 tanks are basic RHA plain steel armour old school type, I quote your own source below :

"Olifant Mark 1B specifications


Dimensions (l-w-h): 8.29 oa x 3.55 x 2.94 m
Total weight, battle ready: 58 Tons
Crew 4 (2 Drivers/gunners, Commander, loader)
Propulsion V-12 Rolls-Royce Meteor 4B diesel, 950 hp - 16.38 hp/ton
Suspensions Torsion arms
Top Speed 58 kph(30 mph) on flat
Range (road) 500 km (280 mi)
Armament (see notes) 105 mm L7 rifled cannon 68 rds

2 x 7,9 mm (0.3 in) 2000 rds
Armour Spaced RHA
Total Production 224"

Source ....your own source : http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/coldwar/South_Africa/Olifant_MkI.php

Death by own source = Suicide shocked shocked
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[size=20pt]Olifant Mk1B has composit armor and reactive armor around the turret
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/olifant/[/size]

By calling it "spaced" RHA they imply that it composit you illiterate buffoon

It is pathetic that you are unable to follow the sources in an argument.

SANDF has 177 MBT's with composit and reactive (stand-off) armor

FACT
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:03am On Apr 30, 2015

Dude!! Why are you editing the Data mate?

Range (road) 500 km (280 mi)
Armament (see notes) 105 mm L7 rifled cannon 68 rds

2 x 7,9 mm (0.3 in) 2000 rds
Armour Spaced RHA. No data available.
Total Production 224

Most of the Armor details are classified, all we know is that it has composite armor, but we dont know what its composed of.

[size=20pt]Yet again his fraud has been exposed.

Augustus has no shame! I recently exposed him for doing the same! [/size]

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:05am On Apr 30, 2015
agaugust:


You forgot to educate me about why SAAF Gripen jet has only 75 km radar range in ground search mode, your own jet grin grin

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So why do you refuse to post the citation then?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:06am On Apr 30, 2015
agaugust:



I keep on using my military research to educate all South Africans about their own military, your old source data is 2011, my own data is current at year 2013....SANDF has ONLY between 191 to 203 units of Olifant tanks in service today....NOT 266 units 1

LOL....your own defenceweb and army technology both says SANDF has only 26 units of Olifant tank with partial composite armour.

"South African Army:

Armour
191: 177 Olifant 1A/B (Of which 133 in storage) and 26 Olifant Mk 2 (for training)."

Source : South African National Defence Force ORBAT

Written by defenceWeb, Friday, 01 February 2013
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SANDF has 177 tanks with composit and reactive armor.

Mk1B and above has both composit and reactive armor
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/olifant/
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:06am On Apr 30, 2015
agaugust:


Pooh, story story, nothing classified, only 26 units of Olifants have composite, 13 units MK 1B and 13 units the MK 2.

No available data does not mean composite armour....not available means even you do NOT know !

When you have proof of composite armour, come back and argue, your source ONLY MENTIONS RHA OLD ARMOUR grin grin
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What are you even saying?

Is this your excuse for modifying sources that you post here?

Is this your excuse for hiding the truth?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:08am On Apr 30, 2015
agaugust:



When you have proof of composite armour, come back and argue, your source ONLY MENTIONS RHA OLD ARMOUR grin grin
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[size=20pt]Olifant Mk1B and above has composit and reactive armor
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/olifant/

I posted this link multiple times yesterday[/size]
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:08am On Apr 30, 2015
agaugust:


Simple English language..... 58 tanks purchased by Excalibur, 58 purchased to sell them to Nigeria. I thought SA white men can read and interpret simple English language. grin

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Look who is talking MR 16 TYPES of vehicals!!!

HAHAHAHA


YOUR ILLITERACY IS WELL DOCUMENTED
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:09am On Apr 30, 2015
lezz:
[s]of course, only in South Africa is truth racism. your military is in comatose and are looking for "skilled" personnel to employ after filling up the hierarchy with zulu freedom fighters. the "racist" blogger even quotted your national defence secretary. your men couldn't even operate newly bought equipments and you are claiming your former spear-wielding zulus are training Nigerian soldiers. hmn.


you are a soweto zulu too ashamed to claim your roots. you claim to be white in the shadows, but every "true" white south african is ASHAMED of south africa NOW. Especially its military and every other state- run
institution. South africa is a waste of their sweat and blood in cash, labour and investments of over 300 years!!

WHITES are minding their money/companies but also venting their anger on blogs,internet forums and sites on the vast decay and rot eating the fruits of their blood away in south africa, and NEVER taking up permanent squatting permit on a Nigerian forum to cheer incompetence, inefficiency and mediocrity that is plaguing south africa since1994.

only a zulu still shouts like you do. he has lost nothing since 1994 other than the sense of shame.[/s]

STFU

We are talking about military matters again.

Go away and bother someone else with your asinine ramblings
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by fydence: 4:36am On Apr 30, 2015
agaugust:


Another m0ron in South Africa opened new user account to hide is person grin

No, those Lagos seaport tanks are not Nigerian T-72, they belong to you personally, all the Nigerian soldiers in army uniform with Nigerian flag and name tags guarding the tanks and ship are actually your cousins bringing the tanks to you at home so you can drive T-72 to work and use them to drop your kids off at school daily....M0RON grin grin
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Epic!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by stillchris: 9:54am On Apr 30, 2015
patches689:


STFU

We are talking about military matters again.

Go away and bother someone else with your asinine ramblings

bros!! na so e pain you reach?grin.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 12:14pm On Apr 30, 2015
stillchris:

bros!! na so e pain you reach?grin.
heheh..wetin u expect?
@lezz is their special taskmaster,the ruthless tzar of the pandemic nuisance called south africa.
lol.If these southies could lay hands on Nigerians on this forum,they would have descended into their typical animalistic mobocratic mentallity and clubbed us to death...but no shaking,naija is severely mouthed!!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 12:15pm On Apr 30, 2015
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jl115again: 1:02pm On Apr 30, 2015

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jl115again: 1:17pm On Apr 30, 2015
Denel finishes acquisition of BAE Systems Land Systems South Africa
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=38966

This could potentially be geat news for Project Sepula:

Denel now owns the RG35 which i think would be the best option for project Sepula, then they also have the RG41 which can fulfill any future requirement the SANDF might have:

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jl115again: 1:17pm On Apr 30, 2015
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:25pm On Apr 30, 2015
EVarn:
heheh..wetin u expect?
@lezz is their special taskmaster,the ruthless tzar of the pandemic nuisance called south africa.
lol.If these southies could lay hands on Nigerians on this forum,they would have descended into their typical animalistic mobocratic mentallity and clubbed us to death...but no shaking,naija is severely mouthed!!

@lezz is a man who posts off topic and thinks that opinion is fact

This is a military thread.

If you wish to discuss other topics, go elsewhere.

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