hercules906:
hey guys, morning all, you have no idea how many problems get solved here, i got my visa reading and following advices given on this forum. keep up the good job.

i have a concern, in my visa application i stated that i knew no one in the UK, but the truth is i have two brothers, both british citizens. the reason i denied knowing anyone was because we were not in good terms and i went through the application process without involving them.

After getting the visa, my brother called and we kinda settled after some family meetings etc..

problem now is, one of my brothers insists i stay with him for a couple of days and offered to pick me up at the airport.
i should also add that i changed my travel plans as i initially planned to stay for 6 days, but now will be staying for a month.

told him about the issue of not knowing anyone in the UK, but he said it doesnt matter and that i should tell them at the POE that i have 2 brothers.

please guys, what do you think as i initially insisted on sticking with my initial hotel reservation, but its starting to look like i still have grudges and that is why i dont want to stay with him and i dont want to start another family fight....lol

i know there's so much "unnecessary" personal information here, but i just thought i should make you understand my situation.

my question ia would it affect me if i state at the POE that i have brothers having earlier stated in my application form that i dont,
is it true that it doesnt matter as my brother said?

please i need your urgent responses..justwise, vicjustice, worry, everybody..

thanks a lot

hercules906:
hey guys, morning all, you have no idea how many problems get solved here, i got my visa reading and following advices given on this forum. keep up the good job.

i have a concern, in my visa application i stated that i knew no one in the UK, but the truth is i have two brothers, both british citizens. the reason i denied knowing anyone was because we were not in good terms and i went through the application process without involving them.

After getting the visa, my brother called and we kinda settled after some family meetings etc..

problem now is, one of my brothers insists i stay with him for a couple of days and offered to pick me up at the airport.
i should also add that i changed my travel plans as i initially planned to stay for 6 days, but now will be staying for a month.

told him about the issue of not knowing anyone in the UK, but he said it doesnt matter and that i should tell them at the POE that i have 2 brothers.

please guys, what do you think as i initially insisted on sticking with my initial hotel reservation, but its starting to look like i still have grudges and that is why i dont want to stay with him and i dont want to start another family fight....lol

i know there's so much "unnecessary" personal information here, but i just thought i should make you understand my situation.

my question ia would it affect me if i state at the POE that i have brothers having earlier stated in my application form that i dont,
is it true that it doesnt matter as my brother said?

please i need your urgent responses..justwise, vicjustice, worry, everybody..

thanks a lot

bunita11218:
Hi everyone,I would like to invite my mum to come and visit her grandchild in June but I would need advice on how to go about it.shes 55years and a widow.shes doing little business which she doesn't pay tax on.my question is this;
1.how best can I put the application as she hasn't travelled before.
2.do you reckon I say she's retired in order not to make the application too much or should i say she has a little business she's doing just to show she's coming back home.
3.how best can I demonstrate she will come back home because she has other children in Nigeria and also land in her name.
4.do you reckon I get a sponsor for her in nigeria to pay for flight because myself and my husband are looking to sponsor all the trip.
Please I need a candid advice because I need her to get the visa.
Thank you

SleekMc:
hi great gurus in the house i really appreciate all the advice given to me in this forum, i got my visa today thanks a lot may God bless you all.

hercules906:
hey guys, morning all, you have no idea how many problems get solved here, i got my visa reading and following advices given on this forum. keep up the good job.

i have a concern, in my visa application i stated that i knew no one in the UK, but the truth is i have two brothers, both british citizens. the reason i denied knowing anyone was because we were not in good terms and i went through the application process without involving them.

After getting the visa, my brother called and we kinda settled after some family meetings etc..

problem now is, one of my brothers insists i stay with him for a couple of days and offered to pick me up at the airport.
i should also add that i changed my travel plans as i initially planned to stay for 6 days, but now will be staying for a month.

told him about the issue of not knowing anyone in the UK, but he said it doesnt matter and that i should tell them at the POE that i have 2 brothers.

please guys, what do you think as i initially insisted on sticking with my initial hotel reservation, but its starting to look like i still have grudges and that is why i dont want to stay with him and i dont want to start another family fight....lol

i know there's so much "unnecessary" personal information here, but i just thought i should make you understand my situation.

my question ia would it affect me if i state at the POE that i have brothers having earlier stated in my application form that i dont,
is it true that it doesnt matter as my brother said?

please i need your urgent responses..justwise, vicjustice, worry, everybody..

thanks a lot

bunita11218:

How best do you reckon I put in the application @justwise I need more opinions

princenonny:
stick to your story else you will be deported. Dont contradict whay you have earlier said. You can still stay as long as you like once you enter the country provided its within the visa validity period. If they know you gave false information to get the visa, you will be deported.

aibisoye:
Pleasee stick to your original story. At poe those guys have a computer with all the details you filled. They are just testing you, when they ask you questions. Stick to your hotel when you have checked in your brother can take you anywhere you want to go. Then come back to check out. Don't make mention of any brother at all at Poe....

justwise:


A lot of people have given you a very honest advice, you made a mistake by denying that you have someone in the UK, you should have said yes and point out that you will not be staying with them.
You will not be doing your next visa application any good if you stayed more than 6 days as you indicated. Stick to your original plan

bee4blues:


Thank you so much guys. I appreciate all your comments and they all make sense. I will work on myself, thanks.

justwise:


A lot of people have given you a very honest advice, you made a mistake by denying that you have someone in the UK, you should have said yes and point out that you will not be staying with them.
You will not be doing your next visa application any good if you stayed more than 6 days as you indicated. Stick to your original plan

hercules906:
hey guys, morning all, you have no idea how many problems get solved here, i got my visa reading and following advices given on this forum. keep up the good job.

i have a concern, in my visa application i stated that i knew no one in the UK, but the truth is i have two brothers, both british citizens. the reason i denied knowing anyone was because we were not in good terms and i went through the application process without involving them.

After getting the visa, my brother called and we kinda settled after some family meetings etc..

problem now is, one of my brothers insists i stay with him for a couple of days and offered to pick me up at the airport.
i should also add that i changed my travel plans as i initially planned to stay for 6 days, but now will be staying for a month.

told him about the issue of not knowing anyone in the UK, but he said it doesnt matter and that i should tell them at the POE that i have 2 brothers.

please guys, what do you think as i initially insisted on sticking with my initial hotel reservation, but its starting to look like i still have grudges and that is why i dont want to stay with him and i dont want to start another family fight....lol

i know there's so much "unnecessary" personal information here, but i just thought i should make you understand my situation.

my question ia would it affect me if i state at the POE that i have brothers having earlier stated in my application form that i dont,
is it true that it doesnt matter as my brother said?

please i need your urgent responses..justwise, vicjustice, worry, everybody..

thanks a lot

maestro03:



Justwise, you give a lot of valid advise but i disagree with the statement in bold. It would not harm his application if he stayed longer than he indicated he'd stay. It would harm his next application if he overstayed (i.e stayed longer than 6 months). Yes, best to stick to his original story but there's nothing wrong in changing your length of stay, especially if you already have a ticket showing you intend to return.

Vicjustice:

It is OK to change your staying plan or the duration of stay as change of circumstances can justify that. But as for the denial of your brothers, you have to keep on denying that (at least, during the validity of your current visa) until (perhaps) your next visa application. How you will eventually rectify the discrepancy will be on your own discretion: but i must warn you that (as your both brothers are legally in the UK and even hold British citizenship,) it may result to a 10 years ban if the visa officer observed that you had lied in your previous application.
Now, if you must declare them in your subsequent application, then, you must establish a reasonable reason that would be acceptable as the reason why you denied having them in the UK previously.
Clue and Idea: It is possible that the visa officer will not scrutinize that aspect, and also possible to state that your brothers were in Nigeria or were not going to be in the UK during your visit. Indicate this as additional information otherwise, you would be refused and banned before given the opportunity to explain yourself.
Note: Except there are other reasons to suspect you, the visa officer will not go deep into checking your brothers' travel history.

justwise:


Let me ask you this: Can you stay in the UK for one month with budget of 6 days?

maestro03:

When he gets to the POE all he needs to say is his friend who is a citizen has said he should come stay with him as opposed to staying in a hotel. If asked who, he mentions his brother and the address would have been written on the lnding card.
Feel free to enlighten me, others in the forum re encouraged to as well.... That's why we are all on this forum.....to learn.

hercules906:


Thanks a lot vicjustice for taking time to write the lengthy response.

i intend to correct it in my next application,

thanks also for the suggestion, i actually honestly didnt know their addresses as at the time i was making the application and though i had their phone numbers, it didnt seem reasonable to just call them out of the blues to ask for the address since we were not on talking terms then. and moreover i couldnt even honestly have been 100% sure they were in the UK at that point in time.

i just hope this explanation would sound reasonable to the ECO...lol

another thing, is there any chance they might find out about my relationship with them, i mean before i actually officially correct the misinformation myself.

and also, will a cash in hand of 1500pounds or debit card be sufficient as evidence of maintenance for the 1 month, i would have paid for my accomodation, and return ticket at the time i would be entering the uk, so the 1500gbp would just be for maintenance...food and movement.

looking forward to your reply

worry357:


What is VITAL to all visitors including this poster.
If you book a hotel be certain that the booking is valid on the day that you travel.
(Don't let it be cancelled because it has not been paid.)
Make very sure that the person you are staying with can be contacted by phone and knows your story!

maestro03:


The answer to your question is an emphatic NO. However, you and i know that is not a question that would be posed at the entry point. Questions like what you do for a living, where you'll be staying, if you have family in the UK, when you intend leaving the UK are the likely questions to be asked. It is if suspicion is raised and further scrutiny is required that they could ask that question.

When he gets to the POE all he needs to say is his friend who is a citizen has said he should come stay with him as opposed to staying in a hotel. If asked who, he mentions his brother and the address would have been written on the lnding card.
Feel free to enlighten me, others in the forum re encouraged to as well.... That's why we are all on this forum.....to learn.

justwise:


Bro you know very well that when you apply for visa the embassy gives you because you can afford it the trip at that time? They look at the number of days you want to stay and how much you budget for it? So in this case you said you will be staying for 6days, shown that you have booked a hotel for 6days, return ticket and things you tend to do in those 6days. So how will you get to the UK and stay for one month on 6days budget?

The question will be...what were you doing in the remaining days? Working illegally probably?

You can't claim at the POE that a friend who is a citizen invited you in rather than staying in a hotel because you have already stated in your application form that you don't have anybody in the UK, that is misrepresentation and will lead to deportation.

Do you think he would have been given a visa if had declared budget of 6days but plan to stay one month?

maestro03:


Valid point Justwise. However, He was not given a visa because he stated he was staying for 6 months and declared a budget for same, he was given because he met predefined requirements. He had demonstrated that he would visit the UK and leave without overstaying.

In any case, your option is a safer bet. I just wanted to let the poster know that plans change and they (UK authorities) know that. So its not a matter of following what's in your application to the letter. You could state you are travelling in May then decide to go in June, no harm done. You could decide to stay in a hotel then along the line choose to stay with a friend (which they may attempt to verify) still no harm done. It is not automatic deportation.

Hope my point is clear.

maestro03:


Dear Hercules,

Stay true to your application when at the POE if you are not comfortable telling them of your change in plans. However, when you get in, feel free change your plans; just make sure you do not overstay.

When i got my 1st US visa the fam and i decided to visit Florida instead of Philadelphia that was stated in our application. I was also apprehensive but everyone said it does not matter, that plans change. Truly, it didn't matter; i was no queried about my indicated destination. Even when i visit the UK, i don't necessarily state where i intend to stay; i have multiple choices so i use the one that comes to me first.

The point i'm trying to make is you would not be turned back because you changed the duration of the time you would be spending in the UK provided you can afford it.

justwise:


Yes you have to follow the info you volunteered and signed in your application, that is what your application was based on.

In the application you are asked how much the trip will cost you, how much you have in total for the trip, if somebody else will be paying for the trip. how much for hotel, flight....etc will cost you. You answered those questions based on the number days or weeks you will be staying, so if you stayed more than that...in this case 1 month then you are not doing yourself any good. Without any valid explanation you are likely to be refused a visa next time because your words can not be rely upon.

hercules906:


thanks a lot maestro for your contributions.. like i said i had to change my travel date too, but i have a justifiable reason and i had also made up arrangements for my accomodation to cover for the change in plans, although this new arrangements have now cut deep into my finances, thats why i'm asking if 1500gbp would be enough evidence of maintenance for my 1 month stay, that is if i'm asked to show it anyways.. thank you

maestro03:


Truth is, it's difficult to estimate if 1500GBP would suffice for the stated period. If you could shed more light on what you would be doing, if your host would be accommodating & feeding you etc., that may help. 1500GBP over a 1 month period is about 50GBP a day; that is not so bad. However, if you intend doing some major shopping then quite frankly that is not enough.

Let the experts answer this one. I truly may not give the right answer.

Cheers

hercules906:


thanks a lot , No shopping oh....lol, my host will accomodate me, but no feeding. i will basically jst be eating, attending tutorials and preparing for exams..

hercules906:
thanks a lot @justwise, all your points have been taken, but since my travel date has changed there's no way i can follow what i stated in the application to the letter....

i really understand and appreciate your point of view, but i cant help it, and i also guess that is why they didnt give me 6 days visa because plans can change...lol

initiate:
Hello

I want to apply for a tourist visa for my self wife and 2 kids.

im a contractor I run my own business. I make about 7 to 8 m yearly but the problem is that my banks statement doesn't reflect this for two reasons. 1 business comes in big chunks intermittently sometimes no income for 4 months. and 2 not all income comes straight to my company account. Please what document would I tender to show I can afford the trip.

thanks

justwise:


Is your company registered and you pay tax on your income?