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Re: An Online Date Thread For Fulaman198 And Glamrock (two Fulanis Meet Up) by Fulaman198(m): 6:27am On Apr 30, 2015 |
Besides, I think HalimaSadiya is my new gf please don't beat me up Halima Fulani princess. |
Re: An Online Date Thread For Fulaman198 And Glamrock (two Fulanis Meet Up) by AAinEqGuinea: 6:34am On Apr 30, 2015 |
Fulaman198: I believe you, Fulaman... Dont worry, every black man somehow conquered meanwhile ultimately being conquered. I need a crutch. When I visit Africa (south western Cameroun) again , Im be looking for you and your new bride this time... you can dramatically tell me how you single-highhandedly sold my ancestors in slavery, Mensa Musa style! hidden colors. |
Re: An Online Date Thread For Fulaman198 And Glamrock (two Fulanis Meet Up) by Fulaman198(m): 6:36am On Apr 30, 2015 |
AAinEqGuinea: Have you taken a DNA test, we won't know if Fulani people sold your people into slavery unless you do. |
Re: An Online Date Thread For Fulaman198 And Glamrock (two Fulanis Meet Up) by AAinEqGuinea: 6:54am On Apr 30, 2015 |
Fulaman198: Maybe Fulanis did, maybe they didnt.. I personally dont care... but should i care? sounds important.. It was meager $30 DNA test which only compared my DNA to modern populations outside the US. Results:Africa was my #1 continent and Eq. Guinea was my #1 hit and Guinea Bissau was my second, Namibia, Mozambique, South Africa, Tanzania, Sudan, Somalia, Uganda, Gabon, Kenya, Angola, Ethiopia, Rwanda... and in last place, Nigeria... great story, but this company only surveyed 55% of continent. Next close match was South America with Bahamas leading as my #1 country there. Next was South East Asia, with Malaysia... (my ancestors probably crashed those planes) So the story for my grandkids will be how our magical ancestors were tired of unending stories of questionable slavery feats so they decided to part the Atlantic and walk across it, got whipped endlessly but endured like ol' Jesus to overcome and build this great-great-great land, USA. |
Re: An Online Date Thread For Fulaman198 And Glamrock (two Fulanis Meet Up) by Wulfruna(f): 6:58am On Apr 30, 2015 |
DOUBLE POST |
Re: An Online Date Thread For Fulaman198 And Glamrock (two Fulanis Meet Up) by Fulaman198(m): 7:06am On Apr 30, 2015 |
Wulfruna: This is quite laughable at best. The only accurate thing said here is in regards to the Mande (Mandingo people). Prior to the 19th Century, there were many other groups of Fulani settled in present-day Nigeria as Fulanis came in groups of many different clans from various West african countries. Usman Bii Foduye for example his roots were that of the Senegalese Fulani (the Toroobe) who were known as Clerics and people of God. However, there are many clans that settled in Nigeria even before the 19th Century. In the past from Senegal all the way to Sudan, we Fulani gained a reputation as fierce warriors (though that's all in the past now). From our battles in Maasina Mali with the Tuaregs, Songhai, and the Mande. To everywhere. The reason why we are so widespread is due to this wanting to conquer. |
Re: An Online Date Thread For Fulaman198 And Glamrock (two Fulanis Meet Up) by Wulfruna(f): 7:20am On Apr 30, 2015 |
Fulaman198: Which part of this comment contradicts what I said? No one is arguing that Fulani were tough fighters. Herdsmen are often tough fighters. At the same time, the fact is that Fulani in Nigeria (or more precisely Hausa land, as well as Bornu-controlled territories) pre-Jihad recognised the suzerainty of Hausa kings and the Mai-Bornu respectively. That is fact. And it was the same in other kingdoms where Fulani people settled. One Songhai king was so anti-Fulani, he actually launched genocidal attacks against the Fulanis in his territory. So tell me in clear terms the part of my comment you found laughable... the part that the Hausa were their overlords (in Northwestern Nigeria) or the part that a number of them (not a very large number, I quickly admit) could - and were - held as slaves? 1 Like |
Re: An Online Date Thread For Fulaman198 And Glamrock (two Fulanis Meet Up) by Fulaman198(m): 7:34am On Apr 30, 2015 |
Wulfruna: Do you forget that the Sokoto Caliphate and all Emirs are Fulani controlled? Hausa overlords? Please kindly tell me what kind of drugs you are using lol they are not good for your mind. |
Re: An Online Date Thread For Fulaman198 And Glamrock (two Fulanis Meet Up) by Wulfruna(f): 7:53am On Apr 30, 2015 |
Fulaman198: You simply do not read to understand. You only want to defend your people at all cost, even to the point of being rather unreasonable. Before you dub me a 'Fulani hater', like I've seen you do to other people who have argued with you in the past, let me say no one here (least of all myself) is trying to slander your people. No need to get sentimental over facts. Your Sokoto Caliphate only dates back to the 19th century Jihad. If you had read my earlier comments with an open mind you would have seen where I said very clearly - PRE-JIHAD. From the 14th or the 15th century (when Fulanis started trickling into Hausaland) up till the early 19th century the Fulani living in Hausaland were subjects of the Hausa kings (sarakuna). There were no Fulani emirs at the time. Only native Hausa kings. And the Fulani acknowledged them as their overlords and paid taxes. Do you disagree with this? 2 Likes |
Re: An Online Date Thread For Fulaman198 And Glamrock (two Fulanis Meet Up) by absoluteSuccess: 7:54am On Apr 30, 2015 |
Fulaman198:It is correct, don't see things from the way they are now, it used to be poor tribe against the rich, not Yoruba against Hausa or Fulani, I am not s.tupid to claim others as Yoruba slaves: when an area is raided up north, part of the victims are coastal bound, and some are collected by Yoruba dealers who may resold them later on. At least, Aole have that superiority complex or mindset when he said 'slaves will lord it over Yoruba' at the event of his demise. He use to have slaves, he was refering to the hords that Afonja harbours as compatriots as slaves. A man once told me a baffling story, he said he lived up north many years ago and one day he went to buy some items in the local market, then the woman attending to him noticed that he is Yoruba, he said the woman refused to give him his balance, claiming that she is Yoruba's slave. |
Re: An Online Date Thread For Fulaman198 And Glamrock (two Fulanis Meet Up) by Wulfruna(f): 8:03am On Apr 30, 2015 |
absoluteSuccess: Thank you. People sometimes are just too jumpy. And many people don't understand how slavery worked. They think you and other Yorubas are trying to claim you were militarily stronger than they were and conquered them. That was not how it worked. Yorubas did not go up north to raid Fulani villages. It was simply that slaves of Fulani extraction passed from hand to hand to hand and then eventually reached Yoruba traders through whose hands they were further processed, eventually reaching the coast at Badagry or Port Novo. It was that simple. All this unnecessary heat about who was stronger and who was weaker... *smh* |
Re: An Online Date Thread For Fulaman198 And Glamrock (two Fulanis Meet Up) by GIYAZZ(m): 8:16am On Apr 30, 2015 |
Smh |
Re: An Online Date Thread For Fulaman198 And Glamrock (two Fulanis Meet Up) by macof(m): 8:29am On Apr 30, 2015 |
bigfrancis21:who said anything about pride and Valor? I was merely correcting what you posted out of ignorance you see where I am different from a bigot like you is that all parts of history are treated the same. It's not about pride or shame. .it's about knowing what is and not coating it on ethnic bias or sentiments and emotional attachments 1 Like |
Re: An Online Date Thread For Fulaman198 And Glamrock (two Fulanis Meet Up) by absoluteSuccess: 8:35am On Apr 30, 2015 |
tpiadotcom:I am not talking about Yoruba marriage, but about households that owns male slaves among Yoruba, that they normally sell off their Yoruba slaves to avert the sons having to compete with the slaves for goodwill, public acceptance or inheritance in the future. Keeping Yoruba slaves in Yorubaland has costly emotional pricetag: some Yoruba families do not eat 'osinkin' (best meal) not until after the seventh day of first child delivery, they eat 'Ate' (stale meal) instead. They will say that their ancestor own a slave who was given 'unleaving bread' (stale meal or junk food) after bearing a new child and the child died, and that the slave place a curse on the family that their posterity will suffer the same fate. So to waive the curse they have to live like that slave for a week after childbirth. |
Re: An Online Date Thread For Fulaman198 And Glamrock (two Fulanis Meet Up) by absoluteSuccess: 8:46am On Apr 30, 2015 |
Wulfruna:You get it figured out right, just know this limit: you can't help others think in past or present senses. Some are 'historians' fixed to the present or past. |
Re: An Online Date Thread For Fulaman198 And Glamrock (two Fulanis Meet Up) by absoluteSuccess: 8:49am On Apr 30, 2015 |
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Re: An Online Date Thread For Fulaman198 And Glamrock (two Fulanis Meet Up) by macof(m): 8:56am On Apr 30, 2015 |
Fulaman198: Made wat up? Lmao I can assure you Yorubas were an ethnicgroup of power. And only the eastern Yorubas were conquered by Bini, the warring and trading groups were found much westernly Pls mention it 1 Like |
Re: An Online Date Thread For Fulaman198 And Glamrock (two Fulanis Meet Up) by macof(m): 9:23am On Apr 30, 2015 |
Fulaman198:smh this is poor thinking. Fulaman certainly you are better than this So some eastern yoruba kingdoms were under Edo means Edo owns Yorubas I guess wit this logic British own africans 1 Like |
Re: An Online Date Thread For Fulaman198 And Glamrock (two Fulanis Meet Up) by macof(m): 9:49am On Apr 30, 2015 |
bigfrancis21:best place for this is at the University of Ilorin because of ur request i had to serach and there's this article -Ilorin as a Slaving and Slave-Trading Emirate - York University It discusses Ilorin as a Slaving route as an Oyo base and as Emirate http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.yorku.ca/nhp/plovejoy/muslim_volume/chapter3%2520pages%252055-68.pdf&sa=U&ei=gudBVcT7D5DWaomPgLAI&ved=0CAYQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNG6P6Zxv1RwbgxrNEPeINsnVFGq3A 1 Like |
Re: An Online Date Thread For Fulaman198 And Glamrock (two Fulanis Meet Up) by bigfrancis21: 10:02am On Apr 30, 2015 |
Fulaman198: Some online users would re-invent any story just to keep soothing themselves. Having realized they are losing out in the present, they resort to re-inventing past history to keep body, mind and soul together. I'm glad Macof provided that link which clearly said that the Yorubas in Ilorin were defeated by the Fulanis in their midst, thus leading to the establishment of the Fulani emirate in Ilorin, in stark contrast to an article that made the front page few weeks ago where the author was claiming 'we allowed the fulanis to rule for sometime and they never returned power back to us...we were never defeated by the fulanis'. Re-inventing history and putting themselves at the spotlight is now the cool thing to do to assert some 'greatness'. Oh My God, bunch of funny clowns on this forum. Some false history lied to them since birth has all come crumbling down like a pack of wild cards. 3 Likes |
Re: An Online Date Thread For Fulaman198 And Glamrock (two Fulanis Meet Up) by GuyFawkes: 10:05am On Apr 30, 2015 |
Fulaman198: WRONG!!! Bini never conquered Oyo empire You mean Bini controlled Lagos (Eko) at some point in history? I know you don't agree with some false theories thrown around here, doesn't mean you should throw another false story in reply. Still don't know where Edos conquered Oyo. Lol @ Yorubas never being an ethnic power 1 Like |
Re: An Online Date Thread For Fulaman198 And Glamrock (two Fulanis Meet Up) by bigfrancis21: 10:09am On Apr 30, 2015 |
macof: The article mentioned Ilorin all through engaging in the sale of slaves, and not Oyo empire as you previously claimed. Mind you, the Ilorin empire at the peak of its slave trade activities was already a fulani emirate, after the Yorubas had been overthrown by the Fulanis and the Fulanis took over power till today. The ilorin slave trade is about Fulanis selling Yorubas in their own land and not Yorubas selling Hausas/Fulanis. Thus, the Ilorin slave trade can be effectively said to be a Fulani slave trade of sorts, selling Yorubas into slave trade, as well as captives from the North. I see no other Yoruba empire achieving such feat as the fulani-led empire of Ilorin. Not even Oyo empire. 1 Like |
Re: An Online Date Thread For Fulaman198 And Glamrock (two Fulanis Meet Up) by Fulaman198(m): 10:26am On Apr 30, 2015 |
bigfrancis21: Indeed loll I've never seen such ridiculous claims in my whole life until venturing on this forum. I'll leave the Yoruba folks here to revel in their fantasies that never existed. 1 Like |
Re: An Online Date Thread For Fulaman198 And Glamrock (two Fulanis Meet Up) by Fulaman198(m): 10:33am On Apr 30, 2015 |
GuyFawkes: Ok |
Re: An Online Date Thread For Fulaman198 And Glamrock (two Fulanis Meet Up) by macof(m): 11:03am On Apr 30, 2015 |
bigfrancis21: defeated? What are you saying? The yoruba Muslims actually teamed with the fulani at Ilorin. .this was a case of betrayal takin religious affiliation over ethnic brotherhood you did read the part about fulani Muslim slaves taken in by Afonja and Ilorin after gaining independence taken over Oyo duties on reselling slaves from the north I told you, if you are looking for ethnic bigots who sugar coat history you look elsewhere 2 Likes
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Re: An Online Date Thread For Fulaman198 And Glamrock (two Fulanis Meet Up) by absoluteSuccess: 11:36am On Apr 30, 2015 |
AAinEqGuinea: |
Re: An Online Date Thread For Fulaman198 And Glamrock (two Fulanis Meet Up) by macof(m): 12:13pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
Fulaman198:You say yoruba having slaves is a ridiculous claim. this is a greater fantasy there are records of Oyo slave markets in badagry. .the area where the Dutch called Ojo (corrupting Oyo) Records of Ilorin slave heritage of the non-yoruba population records of other yorubas buying slaves from Ilorin after the fall of Oyo records of Ijebu selling slaves to Europeans from the those purchased from Oyo What you should do is to ask intellectual questions on the matter you obviouslyknow nothing about rather than turn this into ethnic battle 1 Like |
Re: An Online Date Thread For Fulaman198 And Glamrock (two Fulanis Meet Up) by macof(m): 12:23pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
bigfrancis21: you talk like Ilorin is a fulani city, u you refuse to deal with facts that Ilorin has more yoruba population than non-yoruba(Fulani, Nupe, Bariba, Hausa are present in the city) It wasn't a fulani slave trade but Ilorin (majorly yoruba) slave trade Just as Ilorin sold slaves from neighboring yoruba towns like Offa, they sold from the north too. .most slaves came from kano market (didn't you read that? ) You don't see because you choose toClose your eyes to it 1 Like |
Re: An Online Date Thread For Fulaman198 And Glamrock (two Fulanis Meet Up) by tpiadotcom: 12:32pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
Fulaman198: Ironic in view of your following comment: You guys were conquered by the Benin people (Edos) Lolz, funny. Benin and Edos who bear Yoruba names? Thats like saying Nigerians conquered European colonizers and thats why Nigerians bear European names. Yet you think you think you sold Fulanis into slavery?It was more the other way around Yes, Fulanis were slave traders, but many of them were also sold. But I don't want to mention it because it's wrong to discuss such things You should know Yoruba also don't like to discuss some things. 1 Like |
Re: An Online Date Thread For Fulaman198 And Glamrock (two Fulanis Meet Up) by absoluteSuccess: 12:49pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
bigfrancis21:Ilorin is not the beginning and the end Yoruba history, hear the son of Uthman Dan Fodio to Clapperton before your sweet joy 'Ilorin emergency': "Yarba is an extensive province containing rivers, forests, sands and mountains, as also a great many wonderful and extraordinary things. In it the bird called babage (parrot) is found. By the side of this province there is an anchorage for the Christians, who used to go there and purchase slaves. These slaves were exported from our country and sold to the people of Yarba, who resold them to the Christians" Sultan Bello, 1823. Francis, I already agree with any twist you choose to make out of this. 2 Likes |
Re: An Online Date Thread For Fulaman198 And Glamrock (two Fulanis Meet Up) by absoluteSuccess: 1:06pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
Fulaman198:Yeah brother, please don't go, you are here to learn. The Yorubas of old sees the Fulani and Hausas as slaves because they were involved in selling them to Europeans. But nature is kind, she compensate our loses sometimes. |
Re: An Online Date Thread For Fulaman198 And Glamrock (two Fulanis Meet Up) by tpiadotcom: 1:32pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
Fulaman198: Having a reputation as fierce warriors doesnt mean you couldnt be sold or enslaved. It depended on what the need was from overseas. Ie what type of manpower was in demand. |
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