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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jl115again: 3:06pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
agaugust:Nope you are receiving less than 16 T72s from the Czechs! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:14pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
patches689: [size=20pt] Bwahahaha That your weblink is suicidal, it says ALL SANDF Olifant Mk 1 B tanks have ONLY the RHA armour. RHA is Rolled Homogenous Armour....ordinary plain steel. "Rolled homogeneous armour (RHA) is a type of steel which is used to armour vehicles. RHA was in common use as primary armour until after World War II, during which a new generation of anti-tank rounds using shaped charges instead of heavy high-velocity projectiles came into use. RHA was ineffective against these and fell out of use." Same armour on Nigeria's 136 Vickers eagle tank.....so you mean Nigeria too has tanks with composite armour.....136 tanks ! OMG this is hilarious.... Even ancient T-55 tanks have RHA armour you foool RHA = Rolled Homogenous Armour ERA = Explosive Reactive Armour Composite/Passive = Mixture of steel with ceramics or plastics sandwiched You don't even know your own 'forte'....Patched the retaaard of Gauteng ! .[/size] |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:19pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
agaugust: I was saying those things to force you to provide citations. Now, you have shown citations for 56 T-72 from the Czech Where is your citation for T-72 from Ukraine? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:20pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
jl115again: See why I said I hate looking for sources to prove anything to you? You just are not worth the effort....butt hurt whitey southie Even your own country man Patches says you ARE WRONG ! patches689: 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:22pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
agaugust: [size=20pt]All Olfiant Mk1B have Composite and Reactive armor. http://www.army-technology.com/projects/olifant/ Our weblink says that the armor is SPACED RHA and that no data as to its composition is available - while armytechnology species that it is both composit and reactive This is the 9th time i have posted the citation. I will not debate with you when the facts are so clear. [/size] |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:23pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
agaugust: 12 or 56 it does not matter You said you were getting 200 Now, substantiate your claims - pathetic niga fraudster. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:23pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
patches689: Stop asking me to repost old weblinks that we have repeated here many times, go consult the archives you dummy....wanna cry more delicious tears again my bro ? . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jl115again: 3:27pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
agaugust:Uhm.....Go read your source again!! it states that The Czechs sold 58 Tanks to the Excalibur Group, not to Nigeria, provide a source were it states Nigeria bought all 58 Tanks from the excalibur group. And BTW @Patches689 was being conservative with hes views, he was simply implying that even if Nigeria bought all 58 Tanks(Which Nigeria havnt) from the Excalibur Group its still less than our over 150 MK2 and MK1Bs. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jl115again: 3:27pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
agaugust:Nigeria bought less than 16 T72s FACT!! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:31pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
agaugust: you wanna post a citation to prove your claims, bro? Btw, still waiting for Gripen ground search citation |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 3:55pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
agaugust: http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6553:fact-file-the-sa-infantry-corps-&catid=79:fact-files&Itemid=159 |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:02pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
patches689: Me, a Nigerian, should be posting the ground search radar range of South African Gripen jet for you? You should be ashamed to ask me to educate you about your own air force....did I ever ask you to post F-7NI jet radar ranges for me ? 50 million dullard South Africans need either the white man or a Nigerian to lead them . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:05pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
jl115again: Even your brother Patrick is laughing at you.... |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:13pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
[size=16pt] patches689: You claim that tanks are your specialization, but I proved you dont even know the meaning of RHA armour, you called it Composite....I had to educate you as usual....Olodo You say "Our Weblink" ? So an internet encyclopaedia that says it has NO DATA is yours, while you deny South African Defenceweb maganize and called it " Your Own" meaning defenceweb is now a Nigerian source.... Patches, this is a very bad day for South Africa o ! Serious beating early morning into afternoon....you cannot even spell T-72 again...you call it T-70....so so beating up of South Africa today....ah ! Nigeria dey wicked ! I already clarified that SANDF has ONLY 44 units of Olifants with composite armour NOT some damn inflated fraudulent figure of 170 or 220 units you guys want to deceive us with....frauds "The Olifant Mk.1B (Elephant) is an upgraded variant of the Olifant Mk.1A tank. The Mk.1B was developed as an interim solution. It entered service with South African National Defense Forces in 1991. About 44 vehicles were upgraded to the Mk.1B standard." http://www.military-today.com/tanks/olifant_mk1b.htm SANDF has ONLY 44 tanks with composite armour ....PROVED ! RHA = RHA it's not same as composite armour with ceramics or plastics. Spacing was done at to the bottom floor of the rank to protect from anti-tank land mines NOT composite armour dude ! "The glacis plate and nose of the hull have been upgraded with the addition of passive armour and the turret has been fitted with stand-off armour. The installation of a double-armour floor gives the crew additional protection against mines. The running gear is protected against HEAT missiles by new sideskirts." http://www.army-technology.com/projects/olifant/ Your SANDF put extra layer of armour on the floor NOT the hull you fraud ! It's been fun busting you Southies' bubble on Olifant tanks since 3 days ago....Your SANDF has an obsolete tank force .[/size] 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jl115again: 4:20pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
agaugust:What ever dude!! Your own source states you are receiving less than 16! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 4:21pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
agaugust:Maritime surveillance radar. Nothing special. Stop moving goal posts. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 4:23pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
agaugust:Prove it. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:29pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
jl115again: patches689: . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jl115again: 4:29pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
agaugust:I will say it again!! We received 44 tanks in 1991, it was the first batch we received, Production carried n throughout the 90s. Secondly the SANDF owns 266 Tanks P.S it doesnt mean we have all 266 in service, some are obviously in storage: "The SA Army currently owns up to 266 of the tanks in five variants: the Mk2, Mk1B and Mk1A MBT in addition to about 16 armoured recovery vehicles (ARV) and two armoured bridgelayers (ABL)." http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=18165 |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jl115again: 4:30pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
agaugust:Jap i also think its funny Nigeria only has about 12 T72s. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 4:36pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
patches689:The RG-35 has many different variants, some developed for the SANDF current needs. Like a small fire support Eland class of vehicles. I'm a Mbombe fan, it can be armed with a 12,7m machine gun or the new 20mm cannon turret from denel. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:47pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
jl115again: Nobody believes you again on this forum, even your country South African Defenceweb magazine report is now mocking you...it says SANDF has only 203 Olifant tanks today...NOT your 266....guy, you have crossed the line....go bury your head in shame....crime does not pay South African National Defence Force Index 1. Order of battle South African Army: Armour 177 Olifant 1A/B (Of which 133 in storage) and 26 Olifant Mk 2 (for training) Written by defenceWeb, Friday, 01 February 2013 . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 5:21pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
patches689:In fact senior officers aren't allowed to carry heavy packages or whatever. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 5:25pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
agaugust:Unless when in tanks, vehicles, aircraft etc You'll mostly find colonels carrying a stick at the front with bullets flying all over the place. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:41pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
agaugust: why are you so reluctant to post it? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 5:45pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
agaugust:what can Nigeria do with 58 T-72s if you had them in conversional war ? How many can be deployed? How many can be held in reserve? How many can be used for training? How many will going for repairs and fixes? Where are their support logistics vehicles(bridge layers, recovery vehicles and more)? Where are the mechanised infantry to back them? Less than 6 SF anti-tank hunter groups with specialised vehicles or on foot can eat all your small tank force. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:45pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
agaugust: Passive armor = composite Stand-off armor = reactive All Olfiant Mk1B have Composite and Reactive armor. http://www.army-technology.com/projects/olifant/ 177 Mk1B were produced - with composit and reactive armor http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/coldwar/South_Africa/Olifant_MkI.php These are simple facts. I am not debating with you on this topic because there is no debate. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:47pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
agaugust: The SANDF cut down the number of tanks it has. Just like it cut down from 500 000 men to less than 90 000 So what? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 5:50pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
jl115again:Rooivalk Mk2! Coming to a battlefield near you soon. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:13pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: You delusionists, whose going to order 100 to get the program restarted......, The broke SAAF that cant even afford to fuel it's fleet? 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by stillchris: 8:05pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
Henry120: chai!!! you beat me to it. Even project biro is still nothing more than a biro. they operate obsolete tanks and maritime aircrafts Are yet to pay up the loan for their frigates and subs Can't afford to keep their pilots in the air Can't afford fuel to keep flying their jets More than half of their troops are half dead (AIDS) Their soldiers are incapable of maintaining it's trucks without help from the Cuban army Their Navy can't shoot straight...... the list is endless maybe they think they've been arguing with Nigeriens. cos that's the military they should compare with 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 9:24pm On Apr 30, 2015 |
Henry120:Rooivalk Mk 2! Coming to a battlefield near you soon! Denel funds + government support + customer order = Rooivalk Mk2. 1 Like |
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