Henry120:


The Super-Hornet is multi-role, same as the Eurofighter and the SU-35.

They also have stellar air to ground capabilities.

Sales going up after using a 4++ generation fighter to hit targets in countries with virtually non-existent air defence systems is irreasonable and absurd.

The story would be different if they try using them against groups in Donesk and lughansk. This i can assure.

Yes, they go up.

Look at Israeli sales after every Gaza war.

The Typhoon is still being refined for air to ground combat.

American weapons come with lot of strings attached.

agaugust:


The SAAF Rooivalk pilot confirmed the helicopter cannon range as 2 km according to that your own video !

He fires the cannon, you don't ! He know the real range.

Don't compare gun power, the Mi-35 fires 30 mm x 2 double barrel cannon, Rooivalk fires 20 mm x 1 single barrel.

One burst of fire from Mi-35 will do 3 times more damage than the Rooivalk's tiny gun
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The cannon range is 5km+

The rockets are: 6km.

On the MI-24P? Which is stationary? Is better? No it isn't.

MikeCZAR:
The cannon range is 5km+

The rockets are: 6km.

On the MI-24P? Which is stationary? Is better? No it isn't.

The SAAF Rooivalk pilot declares the cannon range of his helicopter as 2 km, you have no practical knowledge of the weapon to challenge his claim , he flies the Rooivalk as a pilot of SAAF.

Confirmed by SAAF Rooivalk pilot, the helicopters cannon range is a fvcking 2 km . Proved by your own Southie pilot in the video.

Show us the rocket range, how you got 6 km, would be good to give us a proof.

M-35 Hind helicopter carries 3 types of cannon, and it can change the gun at will, the rotating flexible gun is the most common and that is what Nigeria uses, our Hinds don't use fixed stationary gun generally, they are rotating cannon that fires from different angles no matter what direction the helicopter faces.

Youjust like to post bullshiit dude.
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agaugust:


The SAAF Rooivalk pilot declares the cannon range of his helicopter as 2 km, you have no practical knowledge of the weapon to challenge his claim , he flies the Rooivalk as a pilot of SAAF.

Confirmed by SAAF Rooivalk pilot, the helicopters cannon range is a fvcking 2 km . Proved by your own Southie pilot in the video.

Show us the rocket range, how you got 6 km, would be good to give us a proof.

M-35 Hind helicopter carries 3 types of cannon, and it can change the gun at will, the rotating flexible gun is the most common and that is what Nigeria uses, our Hinds don't use fixed stationary gun generally, they are rotating cannon that fires from different angles no matter what direction the helicopter faces.

Youjust like to post bullshiit dude.
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Canon range is 5km+

Rockets are 6km.

The 12,7m? The Hind only makes strafing runs and it can't hover!

agaugust:


Mi-35 Hind too has targeting sights....Russian standard. I see no difference
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I know you see no difference, why do you think I call you r3tarded?

agaugust:


Post us the Ukrainian Mi-35 pilot's report where they said the could not attack because of bad weather. Mi-35 Hind is an all weather combat helicopter.

Show us how a Rooivalk performs better in target ID than the Mi-35....they both use FLIR to find target....so show us the difference in technical specs of their FLIR
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Go watch the video I posted multiple times.

agaugust:


The SAAF Rooivalk pilot declares the cannon range of his helicopter as 2 km, you have no practical knowledge of the weapon to challenge his claim , he flies the Rooivalk as a pilot of SAAF.

Confirmed by SAAF Rooivalk pilot, the helicopters cannon range is a fvcking 2 km . Proved by your own Southie pilot in the video.

Show us the rocket range, how you got 6 km, would be good to give us a proof.

M-35 Hind helicopter carries 3 types of cannon, and it can change the gun at will, the rotating flexible gun is the most common and that is what Nigeria uses, our Hinds don't use fixed stationary gun generally, they are rotating cannon that fires from different angles no matter what direction the helicopter faces.

Youjust like to post bullshiit dude.
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DUDE GO WATCH THE VIDEO!!!
The pilot never said it only has a 2km range, it was the reporter that said it could fire OVER 2kms.

MikeCZAR:
Canon range is 5km+

Rockets are 6km.

The 12,7m? The Hind only makes strafing runs and it can't hover!

Citations needed for the Rooivalk rocket and cannon ranges. Rooivalk cannon is 2 km range confirmed by it's own SAAF pilot.

Hind carries 3 cannon types/options and can carry two different gun types together at the same time, nose gun and pylon gun :

4 barrel 12.7 mm

2 barrel 23 mm

2 barrel 30 mm

Rooivalk carries only one type of cannon.... 1 barrel 20 mm

Hind cannot hover? You ever seen a helicopter that cannot hover? Then what you say is not a helicopter. Ability to hover is the unique feature of every helicopter in this world. Olodo.

jln115:

DUDE GO WATCH THE VIDEO!!!
The pilot never said it only has a 2km range, it was the reporter that said it could fire OVER 2kms.

He said ABOUT 2 km NOT OVER, it's ABOUT 2 km he said....and could mean less than 2 km. Rooivalk cannon is weak .

The reporter got the info from the pilot he was talking to.

Now show us citation for the data/specs range of the Rooivalk cannon....show us
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jln115:

Go watch the video I posted multiple times.

Your video shows people talking at interviews, it did not show how Rooivalk has better FLIR than Hind....I need proof, tech/specs/data
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jln115:

I know you see no difference, why do you think I call you r3tarded?

How did you personally see the difference? The video did not show Rooivalk or Hind FLIR and no means of comparing the two technically.

The Ukrainian pilot was not interviewed to hear his own opinion.

Rooivalk is NOT better than Mi-35 just because a South African Rooivalk pilot says so, is he also the pilot who flew the Mi-35 ?

Show me proof of tech/specs/data to prove the Rooivalk can ID targets better than Mi-35 in bad weather. I need technical data, not the voice opinion of a SAAF pilot who wasnts to take all the glory of a joint multinational combat operation for himself alone, why did the reporter not interview the Mi-35 pilot too and let us hear from Ukrainian air force?

You think courts judge cases by hearing only the prosecutor and refusing to hear from the accused? That's how your brain works?
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MikeCZAR:
Canon range is 5km+

Rockets are 6km.

The 12,7m? The Hind only makes strafing runs and it can't hover!

If it can hover, how does it take off and land? Why is it even called a helicopter?

agaugust:



Citations needed for the Rooivalk rocket and cannon ranges. Rooivalk cannon is 2 km range confirmed by it's own SAAF pilot.

Hind carries 3 cannon types/options and can carry two different gun types together at the same time, nose gun and pylon gun :

4 barrel 12.7 mm

2 barrel 23 mm

2 barrel 30 mm

Rooivalk carries only one type of cannon.... 1 barrel 20 mm

Hind cannot hover? You ever seen a helicopter that cannot hover? Then what you say is not a helicopter. Ability to hover is the unique feature of every helicopter in this world. Olodo.

Haa but what a 20mm, so good many hind users have switched over to using it.

agaugust:



Citations needed for the Rooivalk rocket and cannon ranges. Rooivalk cannon is 2 km range confirmed by it's own SAAF pilot.

Hind carries 3 cannon types/options and can carry two different gun types together at the same time, nose gun and pylon gun :

4 barrel 12.7 mm

2 barrel 23 mm

2 barrel 30 mm

Rooivalk carries only one type of cannon.... 1 barrel 20 mm

Hind cannot hover? You ever seen a helicopter that cannot hover? Then what you say is not a helicopter. Ability to hover is the unique feature of every helicopter in this world. Olodo.

5km+ canon.

6km rockets.

Just like a fixed wind aircraft the apache carries one canon? What are you saying?

Yes, it cannot.

MikeCZAR:


5km+ canon.

6km rockets.

Just like a fixed wind aircraft the apache carries one canon? What are you saying?

Yes, it cannot.

With a single barrel you can achieve duel feeding allowing a on the fly switch between AP or HE rounds. All so the F2 as a muzzel velocty over 1000ms far faster than the guns of the Mi24.

Old pic. But i like...

2 Squadron. Makhado AFB.

agaugust:


He said ABOUT 2 km NOT OVER, it's ABOUT 2 km he said....and could mean less than 2 km. Rooivalk cannon is weak .

The reporter got the info from the pilot he was talking to.

Now show us citation for the data/specs range of the Rooivalk cannon....show us
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He could mean more too, and how do you know he asked the Pilot for info?

Now show us citation that the rooivalk cannon is only 2kms.

agaugust:


How did you personally see the difference? The video did not show Rooivalk or Hind FLIR and no means of comparing the two technically.

The Ukrainian pilot was not interviewed to hear his own opinion.

Rooivalk is NOT better than Mi-35 just because a South African Rooivalk pilot says so, is he also the pilot who flew the Mi-35 ?

Show me proof of tech/specs/data to prove the Rooivalk can ID targets better than Mi-35 in bad weather. I need technical data, not the voice opinion of a SAAF pilot who wasnts to take all the glory of a joint multinational combat operation for himself alone, why did the reporter not interview the Mi-35 pilot too and let us hear from Ukrainian air force?

You think courts judge cases by hearing only the prosecutor and refusing to hear from the accused? That's how your brain works?
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Almost Every thing you want to know about the Rooivalk are shown in these tow sources, the onus is now on you to prove the MI35 has better systems.
http://www.aircraft.co.za/Encyclopedia/D/459.php
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/rooivalk/

agaugust:


Your video shows people talking at interviews, it did not show how Rooivalk has better FLIR than Hind....I need proof, tech/specs/data
.

Almost Every thing you want to know about the Rooivalk provided by thses sources.
http://www.aircraft.co.za/Encyclopedia/D/459.php
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/rooivalk/

andrewza:


Haa but what a 20mm, so good many hind users have switched over to using it.

How many Hinds in this world use SA 20 mm gun ? There are over 2,500 Mi-24/35 Hind helicopters, so how may came to South Africa to change to 20 mm gun? Russia, India, Ethiopia, Brazil, Angola.....how many units changed to your type of Rooivalk gun ? You don't know the meaning of the word most? No you don't.

andrewza:


With a single barrel you can achieve duel feeding allowing a on the fly switch between AP or HE rounds. All so the F2 as a muzzel velocty over 1000ms far faster than the guns of the Mi24.

Muzzle velocity decreases with calibre size, a 30 mm gun will have less ammo speed than a 2o mm, that is science.

H.ell, a double 30 mm gun has 3 times the killing power of a 20 mm.....the Mi-35 has 3 times the firepower of Rooivalk.

30 mm gun will penetrate most armoured vehicles using standard shells, the 30 mm gun of the Hind helicopter is the same on Su-25 Frogfoot and that is a powerful jet aircraft in ground attack role.

A Mi-35 Hind can carry two 30 mm x 2 barrel gun pods on wing stub and one 12.7 mm x 4 barrel gun on nose.....even Apache won't do that, talk less of a Rooivalk. Mi-35 is just a killing machine the world cannot refuse....over 2,500 units sold to over 20 countries worldwide. The buyers are not fools.

jln115:

He could mean more too, and how do you know he asked the Pilot for info?

Now show us citation that the rooivalk cannon is only 2kms.

Your boasting video is the citation, you already gave us a source....Rooivalk gun has ONLY about 2 km range.

Thanks for the suicide bra

agaugust:


How many Hinds in this world use SA 20 mm gun ? There are over 2,500 Mi-24/35 Hind helicopters, so how may came to South Africa to change to 20 mm gun? Russia, India, Ethiopia, Brazil, Angola.....how many units changed to your type of Rooivalk gun ? You don't know the meaning of the word most? No you don't.

The Algerian SuperHinds use Denels 20mm gun.

agaugust:


Your boasting video is the citation, you already gave us a source....Rooivalk gun has ONLY about 2 km range.

Thanks for the suicide bra

UHM.......Do you even bother reading sources? which source stated it only had a 2km Range!!!

jln115:


Almost Every thing you want to know about the Rooivalk are shown in these tow sources, the onus is now on you to prove the MI35 has better systems.

http://www.aircraft.co.za/Encyclopedia/D/459.php
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/rooivalk/

The Mi-24/35 Hind is better than the Rooivalk

http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/mi-24.htm

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jln115:

UHM.......Do you even bother reading sources? which source stated it only had a 2km Range!!!

Those weblink sources say nothing about gun range.

My source of 2 km is your own boasting video of SAAF pilot and his journalist...2km range of Rooivalk gun.

Except you want us to dismiss the whole of your video as a SCAM and FRAUD filled with FALSE information

Sweet suicide my brother !

jln115:

The Algerian SuperHinds use Denels 20mm gun.

How many units are those Algerian?....there are over 2,500 Hinds in this world.

agaugust:


Muzzle velocity decreases with calibre size, a 30 mm gun will have less ammo speed than a 2o mm, that is science.

H.ell, a double 30 mm gun has 3 times the killing power of a 20 mm.....the Mi-35 has 3 times the firepower of Rooivalk.

30 mm gun will penetrate most armoured vehicles using standard shells, the 30 mm gun of the Hind helicopter is the same on Su-25 Frogfoot and that is a powerful jet aircraft in ground attack role.

A Mi-35 Hind can carry two 30 mm x 2 barrel gun pods on wing stub and one 12.7 mm x 4 barrel gun on nose.....even Apache won't do that, talk less of a Rooivalk. Mi-35 is just a killing machine the world cannot refuse....over 2,500 units sold to over 20 countries worldwide. The buyers are not fools.

Dual feed and High velocity.

Gun pods are no magic the Rooivalk fuel tanks can used to develop those, the Tiger uses gun pods.

The Hind is no close to dedicated attack helicopters like the Apache, Tiger, Rooivalk, A129 and mor

Sales don't indicate how good a weapon is.